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    Exit polls predict “NO” takes it 54% to 46%
    https://uk.news.yahoo.com/seize-opportunity-salmond-232155199.html#iAq4l7O

    in reply to: Debt Rattle Sep 15 2014: The Yin and Yang of Growth and Power #15189
    John Day
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    In complex systems, higher levels of order can arise, as long as there is excess energy to drive them.
    Now as the energy is being withdrawn, we can’t support all the higher levels of order.
    Feudalism was not as bad as it was made out to be, and could exist with agricultural level energy supplies.
    Scotland and Catalonia will have to work things out, as will we all.
    I suspect currencies will simplify again.
    I’m growing a garden, bike commuting, helping my adult children and praying/meditating that “we” awaken as “I”.
    It’s all my practice. Mental only goes so far.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle Sep 14 2014: Draghi To Save Europe With Semantics #15155
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    Obama and the CDC will step up and start sending US aid and doctors and nurses to treat Ebola.
    https://www.firstpost.com/politics/obama-works-to-steps-up-ebola-aid-what-does-the-latest-effort-mean-1713563.html
    Cuba may do better, and sooner.
    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/cuba-sending-medical-teams-to-fight-ebola/

    in reply to: Debt Rattle Sep 14 2014: Draghi To Save Europe With Semantics #15149
    John Day
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    Oops, wrong link and I can’t find an “edit” option.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle Sep 14 2014: Draghi To Save Europe With Semantics #15148
    John Day
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    Wow, that “Rupture” piece is really beautiful and true and powerful.
    Thanks Ilargi.
    Ebola doubling cumulative cases every 22 days reaches 8 billion in early 2016.
    that isn’t stated here, but the rate of doubling and the time to “get this under control” being 18 months, means that “control” is achieved when the virus has spread everywhere.
    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-09-14/former-bp-ceo-warns-sanctions-will-bite-west-us-gives-majors-14-days-wind-down-russi#comment-5217568

    in reply to: Debt Rattle Sep 10 2014: Crisis And Self-Determination #15080
    John Day
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    This MH17 summary from Pravda is well organized, to-the-point and as complete as any I have seen. It’s very well condensed.
    https://english.pravda.ru/world/ussr/09-09-2014/128484-boeing_crash_report-0/

    in reply to: Debt Rattle Sep 9 2014: The Black Swan Of Scotland #15079
    John Day
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    @ Professor LocknLoad
    It’s that false flag anniversary time of year again, and it gets me thinking about what plot comes out of our present milieu of heavy foreshadowing.
    This has a certain assymmetric elegance, and it puts the fear in the “right place” to instill obedience and looking the other way about what happens next door.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle Sep 9 2014: The Black Swan Of Scotland #15063
    John Day
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    As threatened:
    False Flag Ebola Suicide Bomber, The Movie:

    Lately we have been seeing lots and lots of emerging scenarios, which could justify war, and all running at the same time.
    We have the situation in Ukraine, set up by the US at great expense, and with at least 6 years of lead time (according to Wikileaks files just released https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-09-09/ukraines-choreographed-civil-war-revealed-wikileaks ). MH-17 initial report is so vague as to be readable as consistent with an antiaircraft missile attack, and we already know better, but this is all we get until the full report comes out next summer https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-09-09/mh17-was-struck-multiple-high-energy-objects-outside-aircraft-crash-report-reveals
    China is feeling her oats as a rising superpower, and it is how China has self identified for the past 3000 years.
    The South China Sea thing could need a war for that deep oil and gas. Justifications are being laid. Poor Philippines; poor Vietnam (bitter irony); poor Taiwan and Indonesia.
    Really, really in our faces are those beheadings and mass slaughters by ISIS/ISIL/IS.
    Joe Biden says we’ll follow them to the gates of heck, or something.
    Those guys are so totally bad that they would do anything, and anything we would do to kill all of them is a necessary service to the whole world.
    The Saudi King said they would be attacking Europe in a month, and the US in 2 months.
    Where did these guys come from, nightmare world? They are like al Qaeda with a Freddy Kruger mask!
    Then there is Ebola, which makes you die painfully and slowly with fever and bloody diarrhea, and bleeding from your eyeballs, and it comes like a thief in the night…

    Imagine you are Dick Cheney.
    Ok, ok, that’s a bit too much to ask.

    I have an idea for a made-for-TV-movie that’s an edge-of-your-seat, suspense thriller-diller.

    Here’s the story line:
    ISIS really, really wants to hurt the US, the great Satan, for decades of destruction, but can’t get nuclear weapons, or any way to get them into the US.
    Ricin doesn’t go very far, and would only kill a few people, like in that Japanese subway thing.
    ISIS needs something undetectable that won’t show up on airline scanners, but that can still kill millions of people if they get it into the US.
    Hey, Ebola virus would work, and somebody could volunteer to be an Ebola suicide bomber, or even not volunteer…
    You get some guys from western countries, secret volunteers for ISIS, like we hear about, and tell them they have a secret mission.
    Some guys go to Washington DC with lots of money and have unprotected sex with 4 prostitutes a day until further orders. Unlimited ATM card, It’s for Allah.
    Other guys go shoot heroin 4 times a day, drawing up twice what they will use, flashing a little blood back into it when they hit the vein, injecting real slow, then saying it’s too strong, and leaving the half full syringe on the table while they crawl to the corner.
    Like Lee Oswald, these guys can just think they are establishing cover identities.
    Before they fly to Great Satan Land, they need a protective injection, a vaccination IV.
    The trick is, that it is pooled plasma from Iberian Ebola patients, frozen and flown over.
    By the time they get sick in 2-3 weeks, still establishing their cover identities, they could easily have infected 100 denizens of Washington DC.
    They would have infected the folks most likely to further infect others.
    These guys could even be shot in an alley when they get sick, before all the bleeding.
    That would get some infection going in the coroner’s office. Ebola would never be suspected.
    Who is the first to figure it out? Who breaks it to the American people?
    What emergency measures have to be taken, to assure the continuity of government?
    Who must be brought to justice for this unbelievably heinous perfidy?
    Who gets nuked?
    Who gets quarantined? Where? Where do we put all those potentially infected people who had sex with prostitutes and used IV drugs in Washington DC?
    Where do we put everybody who they live with?
    Where can our elected representatives and top civil servants and military leaders go to safely carry on the work they must do to bring us through this crisis?
    Nothing must stand in the way of that mission!
    Where do treatments come from to protect us, and those masks, and rubber gloves, and goggles, and isolation suits?

    Anyway, it’s just an idea for a made-for-TV-movie, but who could turn it off once they got into it, huh?
    It pulls everything together, doesn’t it?
    You don’t even need any big name actors. It’s all in the plot.
    Do you know of anybody who could fund a project like this?

    in reply to: Debt Rattle Sep 8 2014: Please Scotland, Blow Up The EU #15054
    John Day
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    I appreciate the attention to my contribution.
    Indeed it is hard to settle conclusively on one human failing that outshines the rest.
    The graph from the Wikipedia site (linked by Carbon waste life form above), which seems most informative to me is the semi-logarithmic graph of Ebola cases and deaths over time.
    In this format a straight line is a consistent exponential increase.
    The first few months were smaller numbers, and likely had a lot of sampling error.
    By June this had become a straight rising line, as Ebloa became established in cities, with human to human spread predominating.
    (Next, what if there’s a false-flag-Ebola-suicide-bombing-attack-on Washington DC for the 13th anniversary of 9/11? 😮 Dick Cheney)

    in reply to: Debt Rattle Sep 8 2014: Please Scotland, Blow Up The EU #15046
    John Day
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    “The greatest shortcoming of the human race is our inability to understand the exponential function.”
    https://www.albartlett.org/presentations/arithmetic_population_energy.html
    Professor Al Bartlett famously made this statement at the beginning of a lecture he gave over 1700 times, beginning in 1969, about the problem with exponential growth of resource use in a finite world.
    It applies to taking out a loan with interest, and things like that, too.
    I see it applying to the current Ebola epidemic, which is growing exponentially in urban areas, away from tasty fruit-bats, having established a human-human transmission, which now makes it extremely virulent.
    If the number of cases doubles each month, we will be up to 8 billion cases in 23 months, August 2016, less than 2 years away.
    It is really easy to discount that, and we are powerfully inclined to discount it.
    Ebola has never done that.
    This is a very different Ebola, a new situation, completely.
    This will be contained in Sub-Saharan Africa. It is really remote from Europe, Asia and the Americas.
    Containment efforts in Africa may mean stopping all trade with Africa. If nobody leaves Africa, ever, that will be effective. The ability to enact such a stringent quarantine will probably lag the spread of human carriers, who have up to 3 weeks of active infection before they get sick. Politically and economically, the flow of (wealthy) people and oil out of Nigeria is really going to take a crisis in the West or East to stop it. It will have to be a bit too late already.
    Medicine outside of Africa is much better and more sophisticated, and will defend us.
    This has been worked on with US military funding, for at least 12 years. We have Zmapp, which is mouse antibodies to Ebola, grown in GM tobacco, and given as IV. That won’t be ramped up in anything like the time we have, nor will it be possible to administer to everybody who gets sick in our world.
    Vaccines are being worked on.
    Flu vaccine gives about as much protection from influenza as taking vitamin-D, maybe a little less. https://www.worldhealth.net/forum/thread/99358/vitamin-d-proven-more-effective-than-bo/?page=1
    Antiviral drugs are being developed. HIV has given us a lot of experience in that field.
    The time to develop antiviral drugs is fairly long, and certainly began over a decade ago. We don’t really know where the progress may be on this, but there is nothing proven to work, and if there was something that worked, the business folks would have it out there front and center in the news.

    Plague was a scourge of Europe, Africa and Asia for a couple of thousand years, possibly linked to the collapse of the Western Roman Empire, and still infecting people in Madagascar, and is endemic in rodents worldwide, including the US. There was a pretty big outbreak in Vietnam, during the war. This is now treated with doxycycline and Cipro, since it is bacterial, not viral.
    The longer history of Plague may be more instructive for our current situation. Economic ruin and starvation traveled with Plague, and Plague traveled with ships. https://www.cdc.gov/plague/history/

    This BBC article actually begins to take a broader look at this new Ebola, and implications. https://www.bbc.com/news/health-29060239
    Once there is viral spread within a human population, not just from a reservoir host like fruit bats, the virus has already mutated to do this trick. Further mutations to facilitate spread in the new ecological niche will be strongly selected for.
    They will thrive in us. The latency of up to 3 weeks will be strongly selected for, since it thwarts our efforts at containment, “Stealth Ebola” drops the bombs and moves on before there is any sign at all.
    The fatality rate may drift down, and there may be sustained viral shedding after recovery, which is being seen in semen samples of recovered men.
    The fatality rate is about 50%, which is well within the range of prior Ebola outbreaks. We can’t really make the call for reduced fatality rate yet. We will all be watching that, I’m sure.

    I propose that we should expect to see Ebola virus in our cities, and that no defense will be ideal, and that it will spread globally within the next couple of years.
    I’ll be happy if I’m wrong, of course, and viral mutation could lead to a more benign variant being predominant, but how benign will Ebola ever get?
    Measles and Smallpox killed about 90% of North and South American people when the Europeans brought them over. More recently, there was an 80% reduction in the population of the Hawaiian Islands, when Captain Cook’s contact led to the introduction of measles. These were old viruses, which had co-existed with humans for a long time, but were still extremely deadly, and brought wholesale change to the social orders of these societies.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle Sep 2 2014: This Is As Big As We Will Get #14960
    John Day
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    Ellen Brown looks at the Fed’s “last bullet”, giving M1 (cash) to the bottom 80% to boost the retail economy. (Maybe it could forestall the collapse-part-2 until after November)

    Time to rain money on Main Street

    in reply to: Debt Rattle Sep 2 2014: This Is As Big As We Will Get #14958
    John Day
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    Charles Hugh Smith has a good post on the current end game in corporate buybacks to enrich inside-sellers. It hasn’t been this big since 2007.
    Things are really hollowed out.
    https://www.oftwominds.com/blogsept14/corp-America9-14.html
    And here is a delightful 2009 article about Russians farming their Dachas for more than half of their veggies. It never went away, got bigger after the collapse of the USSR, and keeps growing because it is healthy, efficient, self-organizing (and maybe wonderful).
    It’s bad for business, of course…
    In 1999, 35 million small family plots produced 90% of Russia’s potatoes, 77% of vegetables, 87% of fruits, 59% of meat, 49% of milk — way to go, people!

    John Day
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    NATO posts pictures of Russian self-propelled artillery in Donetsk/Luhansk, claiming it proves that Russian soldiers are in (the artist previously known as) Ukraine.
    Russia says that no Russian troops are there.
    The self-propelled artillery is being used by the Donetsk Army to shell the attacking Ukrainian army.
    Those are the same self-propelled guns that the Ukrainian army uses. They all came from Russia at some time.
    Maybe some did come recently. I sure don’t know, but it wouldn’t be surprising.
    It’s not “invasion”, is it?
    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-08-28/nato-releases-satellite-imagery-proof-russia-has-invaded-ukraine

    in reply to: War and Peace and NATO #14799
    John Day
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    NATO is like Cujo these days, the most heavily armed rabid dog ever.
    Could Bardarbunga go off big enough to give us some non-war emergency, big enough to get us all on-board behind our shadowy puppet masters?
    I’m grasping at straws, and willing to pray to the aliens, if it will help.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle Aug 18 2014: Oh, What A Tangled Mess We Weave #14695
    John Day
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    The Right Sector in Ukraine wakes up after the meth and booze wear off, and decides not to march on Kiev after all.
    https://euromaidanpress.com/2014/08/17/right-sector-will-not-march-on-kyiv-withdraws-ultimatum/

    John Day
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    Here’s something as reliable as the hackers who dug it up. (I wonder who they are.)
    It’s an email thread of some really shady Ukrainian government/military guys, and at the end it gets into the shoot-down of MH-17. The lead up to that is fascinating/sickening, too.
    I’ve gotta’ wonder if this is a way for Russia to leak something they know, while maintaining a plausible cover story.
    https://themillenniumreport.com/2014/08/hackers-learned-who-shot-down-boeing-in-ukraine/

    in reply to: Debt Rattle Aug 13 2014: A Crowded Runaway Train #14592
    John Day
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    Jolly John (John Jolly?)
    The graphs of all the miles driven by Americans were sorted out on Zero Hedge last winter, as I recall. It’s out in the ethersphere somewhere. Americans are driving slightly more of fuel efficient vehicles since 2008, but overwhelmingly, they are driving fewer miles.
    It looks the same to me. I bike commute 28 miles on a work day, and live farther, but cheaper.
    We’ve been helping our 4 kids with higher education in recent years. It’s down to 3 this fall, but some emergency always jumps up, too…
    I find that I think a lot differently about batching tasks than I did 15 years ago, when I just drove everywhere.
    I still drive sometimes, but not to work, and I batch tasks when I do decide to use a motor vehicle.

    in reply to: US Picks Wrong Friends, Wrong Enemies, Wrong Fights #14534
    John Day
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    So Gravity,

    You are saying, if I may paraphrase: “I think, therefore I am, It’s free, and I am all that I imagine”.
    Is that a fair summation?

    in reply to: Friedman and Kennan? ‘Fraid So #14381
    John Day
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    Raleigh,
    The really big area for improvement here is outlawing antibiotics in animal feed. The vast use of antibiotics in factory farming is part of a really horrific scenario, anyway.
    It was discovered in the 1940s and fully verified in the 1950s, that antibiotics in feed increase weight gain for the same calories in. It was proven repeatedly to work for humans, too.
    Individuals can help themselves by keeping their gut flora “microbiome” healthy and diverse, being active, eating fresh plants, and maybe taking 2000-5000 IU of vitamin-D daily, especially in winter, or if they never get much sun.
    We should all think more of supporting life, than trying to battle death.
    That’s my professional opinion. It’s free.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle Jul 31 2014: Say Bye To The Bubble #14380
    John Day
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    Raleigh,
    No incriminating evidence will be released by parties with anything to lose in the matter (my prediction).

    in reply to: Debt Rattle Jul 31 2014: Say Bye To The Bubble #14356
    John Day
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    Here is something about the MH-17 wreckage and shoot-down, which looks pretty conclusive. A photo of cockpit wreckage shows lots of entry and exit bullet holes, meaning the plane was shot down by a machine gun. It has to have been mounted to that fighter that BBC showed witnesses saying shot the plane down.
    Both of these disappeared from their original posts.
    Global Research got the debris analysis story from Germany.

    Revelations of German Pilot: Shocking Analysis of the “Shooting Down” of Malaysian MH17. “Aircraft Was Not Hit by a Missile”

    Deleted BBC Report. “Ukrainian Fighter Jet Shot Down MHI7”, Donetsk Eyewitnesses

    John Day
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    Vineyard of the Saker has a purported Ukrainian document or two regarding military losses from July 14 – July 19. These are fairly catastrophic desertion losses, and a lot of killed and wounded. If a true document, it implies a very good reason for Yatsenyuk and company to leave their offices. Likewise, their leaving must be quite a signal to the dispirited conscript army.
    https://vineyardsaker.blogspot.com/2014/07/catastrophic-desertions-and-losses-in.html

    in reply to: Debt Rattle Jul 22 2014: Phase Next: Economic Warfare #14174
    John Day
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    Oh, better yet, more backpedaling.
    “The missile may have been fired by a Ukrainian army defector to the rebels, who was trained in this weapon system”, is the latest US adjustment of position.
    https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2014/07/u-s-officials-missile-may-launched-defector-ukrainian-military-trained-use-similar-missile-systems.html

    in reply to: Debt Rattle Jul 22 2014: Phase Next: Economic Warfare #14173
    John Day
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    This thread is getting better.
    Again, the US can use Kiev’s material, though it is likely created by Washington’s own rented advisers there, and still maintain plausible deniability.
    The argument in the video is “hey, who do you trust more, Washington or Moscow?”, followed by, “I’m not even going to let you answer that”.
    The shield of trust is being held up for the absolutely B-movie fabrications coming from Kiev, but that shield can be withdrawn whenever something like the black-box raw data deals it a death blow.
    As Raleigh says, Russia may have something Washington wants to keep hidden.
    The (raw should be released by London) black box data won’t completely reveal who shot off a BUK missile.
    It would reveal if there was an air-to-air missile fired.
    That would make Washington look stupid, vicious and dishonest, simultaneously.
    Kiev would be too discredited for Europe to work with until the next round of elections.
    Well, it my not be that dramatic…

    in reply to: Debt Rattle Jul 22 2014: Phase Next: Economic Warfare #14161
    John Day
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    The situation might be changing as the US backs from the brink and says Russia was not involved, probably a mistake by the rebels, to shoot down MH-17.
    This is a big backpedal.
    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-07-22/us-state-department-confident-mh17-mistakenly-downed-separatists-finds-no-direct-lin
    Maybe London will be impartial in it’s reclamation of black box data for the world to analyze.
    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-07-22/mh-17-black-boxes-will-be-analyzed-uk-whose-prime-minister-compares-russian-aggressi

    in reply to: The Open Food Network #14011
    John Day
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    Oh, here’s The Bountiful Sprout, which some friends of mine have been working on for years, and is a going concern.
    https://localfoodmarketplace.com/bountifulsprout/
    There are set pick-up times and places, and the farmers and eaters coordinate for money and food to show up for the rendezvous. There are other ways to do this, and deliveries can be arranged.

    in reply to: The Open Food Network #14010
    John Day
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    An eBay for food near you? Craigslist for veggies?
    This can work, if people participate.
    🙂

    in reply to: Debt Rattle Jul 10 2014: Fossils, Fuels and Zombies #14009
    John Day
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    Thank You, Ilargi.
    I will hold your offer in consideration.
    I think off grid makes sense within a lifeboat context.
    Actually moving to Hawaii (the island, not the archipelago) after working there 3 times, and with the move paid for, was the impetus for my project.
    Guess what, I had to move back less than a year later, on my own nickel, due to the little rural clinic I worked at having to run through more elderly patients than could be done properly. It was different than before, but I was the same, so I failed to make the transition, despite being networked with really good people in an ideal place, and welcomed by the small community. The federal government basically mandated that each doctor see 1.5 times as many patients daily as I had before. I worked 11 hr “8 hr days”, but fell short of that mark.
    To me, the story of transitions is more important than the story of Edison cells, but it is less satisfying, to be sure…
    It looks like I’m in Austin, Texas, bike commuting 28 miles per day, to a clinic that took me back, and I’m grateful, and learning the ins and outs of permaculture-style gardening where I am. I got to the ideal place, but had no time for growing, just work and it fell short, despite all involved having goodwill and good relationships.
    I hear people think they can get out of markets before a crash, but find that their transitions don’t work as anticipated.
    It seems like there are lots of ways for that to happen in the lesson which is life.
    Aloha, my teacher…

    Cloudhidden,
    Than you, my friend. I suspect I will be working in “green sand” and bone meal when I dig up the summer garden in mid October, when it is a little cooler. I do want to see what the soil analysis tells me. I don’t see that the picture I tried to post showed up. Jungle of 7 foot tomato plants was in the middle of the garden. I hope to get enough veggies to always have fresh, in season, and some to donate.
    Perhaps then I may transition to something larger, but therein lies the rub…

    🙂

    in reply to: Debt Rattle Jul 10 2014: Fossils, Fuels and Zombies #13989
    John Day
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    Ilargi,
    I’m honored, but my study to put together an off grid solar rig with 1200W of panels and 10kWHr of nickel-iron batteries is mostly summarized in what I wrote above. This very modest system cost about $12k, and I looked for good deals on the right parts.
    I completely agree with conservation being the first several steps.
    Embedded energy in our tools is of massive importance. I’m sorry to say that the titanium in my nice commuter bike has a huge environmental cost. (I got it used, but I’m still responsible.)
    Here’s a pic of the summer garden with 7 foot tall tomato plants.
    I just sent off a soil sample. I’m getting a lot of foliage and not much fruit, so I suspect I’ve got deficiencies.
    I just moved in here last summer and began the digging for the garden last fall.
    I have lots to learn. It will take me awhile. I’m not a slow learner.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle Jul 10 2014: Fossils, Fuels and Zombies #13971
    John Day
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    alan2102
    Buffering capacity is what is lacking for massive shift to wind and solar.
    Batteries to hold that much electricity are just too vast to be created.
    Would you as a person buy enough battery to run an electric dryer or oven?
    You shouldn’t.
    Lead acid batteries have crap for life and crap for duty cycles. Deep discharge that sucker once and it’s about 35% of what it was.
    Nickel iron batteries need a lot of expensive nickel, but last forever(ish). Thanks Thomas Edison!
    Lithium ion batteries are also expensive,and also run into availability and cost issues around lithium. All the variations on super-capacitors are cool, with carbon nanotubes and stuff. I don’t see what has been promised for decades, not yet…
    One way around part of the buffer issue is to massively overbuild solar farms, and just not tap all the voltage as current when demand is lower.
    Even a 3 times overbuild produces no electricity at night.
    Radical conservation is the low-hanging fruit, and each of us is equally free to investigate and practice that art.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle Jul 7 2014: Overshoot Loop #13935
    John Day
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    @Carbon Waste Life Form,
    Thanks for the kind remarks.

    @Raleigh
    ,
    It’s hard to model sociopaths without looking at the whole game-change that happened when hunter gatherers were overrun with hierachical societies with priests and generals.
    Those priests, generals and psychopaths may be seen as the “free-riders” in the essay, and they make the farmers and artisans work harder, generally whipping them through fear and the “alienation of labor from capital”, where workers focus on one job, creating one of the many things they need to live , and rely on the system set up by free-riders for the rest of their needs.
    Sociopaths didn’t exist as a subspecies or separate breed in hunter-gatherer groups, where everybody was versatile and multi-talented. They are specialists. Their numbers are poorly represented in expansions, and they try to avoid collapses like the plague, because they cannot survive without free-riding.
    Ordinary workers can be taught to live under sociopathic rules, as we now see in this late stage of the Kondratiev Wave we are in, approaching collapse, from lost productivity, and increased free-rider drag.
    Be versatile. Be cooperative. Be fair. Be networked. Grow a garden. Ride a bike, and think about your lot without utility services. It’s a lot, but I think we approach another “selection event”.
    Be prescient, friends!

    in reply to: Debt Rattle Jul 7 2014: Overshoot Loop #13911
    John Day
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    Dr Diablo, Carbon waste life form, alan2012, and Ilargi,

    “Where’s the flaw?”.
    Initial assumptions always have to be scrutinized.
    Comments point to diversity, which is not addressed in the essay.
    North America had been ravaged by disease, with massive population loss, when many Europeans arrived; South America, too. “Clovis Civilization” did have advanced agriculture, and the early waves of humans to the Americas also did kill off the large land mammals that had not evolved along with humans, and were unwary.
    There are implications for learning as a culture(s) over time.
    The argument about the high reproduction and aggressive strategy winning out is a “yang” argument. It goes together with patriarchy, patriarchal-god religions, and males controlling both female fertility and the decisions regarding aggression/war.
    If history contains long periods of both yang (male) and yin (female) social organizations, there is a certain recognition-bias evidenced here for the periods where yin is overrun by yang.
    We do know that when women control their own reproduction, birth rates fall to or below replacement, in modern societies. Could something like this have been the case in pre-Columbian American societies? “Yes”, of course, it could. Looking at the traditions of menstrual houses, where women spent their menstrual periods together, gives a clue. Women who live together tend to coordinate their cycles. If they spend time separate from men, there is a powerful organizing principle at work in the yin realm. We need to look at the development of female traits, not merely male traits.
    Male bias alert in this essay!
    The “prophet” and “follower” are interesting postulates, but don’t necessarily really look at the myriad of human dispersal patterns. The Polynesian expansion cast out people in boats when population exceeded the carrying capacity of an archipelago. Skills of finding land by the flight of birds, movement of waves, and reading stars, as well as fat stores and upper body strength for rowing were paramount. There are biases for intelligence(s), strength, fat stores, and physical endurance in pioneers.
    We should not get stuck on “prophet” and “follower”. There are so many variants in hard times, and so many cults get killed-off, so there is negative selection there (David Koresh, Branch Davidians exemplify).
    I suspect that periods of cooperation and competition amplify, and even develop through building successful trait-complexes, a wide variety of wiring templates that we can be born with.
    Vastly important here is that these templates are FLUID. We develop our brains as growing and branching patterns, based on how we interact with our environments as children. More complex “enriched” environments create more branching and complexity.
    Fear and pain can make very powerful pathways in a brain, edging out complexity to favor simple survival against threat.
    Anger and fear acutely drop IQ by 30 points. Complexities dissolve, replaced by simple drives to action.
    You may have experienced such immediate clarity. I have. It gets all messed up later, as complications of actions arise.
    Those of us who visit this site have already self-selected for complexity of analysis. We are in a certain 5% of population who have that constitution.
    One trait that we value, which is not addressed in the essay, is the drive to precognition as a survival advantage.
    It seems that precognition can involve many different individual abilities, and certainly groups of them would help much more, if they reached a critical mass in the brain, able to drive actions by complex reasoning and inspiration, as opposed to brainstem-level drives to dominate through sex, violence and control of people, animals and resources.
    At particular points in history, where population booms are followed by sharp “selection event” contractions, we must accept that the selection process will bring the kind of complexity that makes simple analysis fail, much as bond and equity markets fail to respond to fundamental analysis. There are too many variables at work. Simplified analysis is incorrect analysis. Seeing what happens is the final arbiter.
    I vote for more power to yin traits of networking and consensus, insight, and prescience.
    I see so much in life among real human groups, and half of it in this analysis.

    John Day
    Participant

    “I need industrial strength tranquilizer, a shot of Old Crow and a glass of Budweiser, to help survive inflation with falling pay.
    It takes industrial strength tranquilizer, a shot of Old Crow and a glass of Budweiser, to help the workin’ man through the workin’ day.”

    Austin Lounge Lizards, from “Stagflation” days, excellent Texas swing.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle June 25 2014: We Live in Our Own Past #13720
    John Day
    Participant

    Yes, Ilargi, I have had that feeling of looking out on our world as if through the eyes of memory, looking at a thing that was, but is dead. It is as if a future “me” is in my body, knowing what comes to pass, and looking out of my eyes at the tragedy, which does not yet know itself.
    I first got the feeling in 2006, and I have it all the time now.

    John Day
    Participant

    Richard Heinberg has a very good look at our societal adaptations over history to resources, and our ability or inability feed ourselves and grow our societies, cultures, religions, armies, and so on.

    Want to Change the World? Read This First


    For every complex and thorny problem, there is a simple and direct solution (which is wrong).
    We have lifetimes of grinding effort, every day, every meal, every need of ourselves and our families and friends ahead of us.
    Somebody could just start pushing big red buttons and end it all.

    in reply to: Nicole Foss and David Holmgren Tour Australia #13504
    John Day
    Participant

    “Holmgren’s al-right with me,
    Holmgren sees the way it should be,
    Holmgren knows a good thing.
    Plant that bell and let it ring”

    Sung to the tune of “Home Grown”, by Neil Young

    I was at this show.
    🙂

    John Day
    Participant

    Thanks Ilargi.
    Same truth again.
    How can this keep being so un-obvious to folks?
    😮

    in reply to: A Picture of the New America #13144
    John Day
    Participant

    @ Diogenes
    What to have in the way of firepower, varmint guns, plinkers, hand guns, hunting rifles, assault rifles, etc. is a fairly personal choice, based largely on life experience with/without guns, culture and subjective feelings.
    I don’t think we all have to feel the same, be the same, or even agree, here.
    I think there are lots of right and wrong solutions along the way.
    🙂

    in reply to: A Picture of the New America #13140
    John Day
    Participant

    We’ve all been struggling with what comes next, and nations and multinationals have too.
    There is a lot of testing for what might be the right war, the Goldilocks war, and nothing is really measuring up. All too risky for irreversible damage, going into the time of much less.
    The US has been preparing Americans for a variety of wars, and China is doing so, and Japan, and Taiwan. Korea is still at war. The mideast looks played out. Iran looks like a bridge too far.
    The war has to be a big excuse for global economic collapse, and it has to be a transition into a steady-state or contracting global economy.
    The war has to be bad enough to justify a command economy, like the USSR had, but everywhere.
    If the US can’t go to war with Russia, China, Iran, etc. then the best scapegoat has got to be North Korea.
    North Korea has nukes, missiles, motive, means, and has even been built up as having a cyber-warfare unit. There is information out there that Japan’s atomic bomb program in WW-2 was located in North Korea, and that the Russian EMP warhead technology may have been supplied to North Korea long ago.
    The perfect nuclear attack on the US is supposedly an EMP (electromagnetic pulse) device directly above Kansas. More than half the US grid would be knocked out. (It is something like 5 grids, not counting Hawaii, as I recall.)
    This means none of the major economic powers has to be destroyed, and the risk of excess damage to “winners” is eliminated.
    The damage has to be “just right”, Goldilocks style.
    Everybody in the gated-community set gets thrown under this bus, as do all the retirements in the world.
    There will be lots of martial law, and the internet will get high levels of overt policing of thought crime.
    The resources required to keep the underclasses fed and jailed will get cut way back, and the under-the-bus gated-community set will have their hackles up for class war.
    Concentration camps?
    The economy of this country, stripped to bare essentials, really needs about 40% of the workers it has now, right? So much of it just takes flows of capital and goods from around the world to keep the burgers flipping and strip-malls from closing.
    Something big can be used to get the first 50% reduction in use of resources and fuels in the USA.
    Can anybody find a better scapegoat scenario than North Korea lobbing an EMP nuke at the continental US?
    Cuba? I don’t think the Cuba thing worked out 50 years ago, and it’s too late now.

    in reply to: Physical Limits to Food Security: Water and Climate #13087
    John Day
    Participant

    Thanks Nicole,

    I’ll send this out tonight.
    To SteveB and Dr Diablo, I’ll say that picking technical faults with this essay is an immature ego-defense mechanism, which might reduce cognitive-dissonance in the short term, but probably not even that.
    Embrace this truth.
    There is no easy way out.
    I’m creating a kitchen garden, where there was not one before last winter.
    The whole back yard. It is a lot of continuous hard work. Permaculture takes decades to arrange. You eat from somewhere else in that time, and probably after.
    All the permies I know, serious farmers in Texas and Hawaii, eat over half their food from grocery stores.
    Get to work. Work hard.
    Know what this is about. It is not academic.

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