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@thomas: I like Larry Elder. Thumbs up on that vote. (also, thank you for responding)
@UNY. Hmmmm … I kinda like that, too. Way easier to type, ay? 😉
Anecdotal: as a NY resident, we’ve been terrorized from the get-go since NYC was selected as ground zero of this covid sh*t. BUT …
Despite the CDC recommending masks indoors for EVERY county in NY … I’m not seeing them a lot here (central NY). There are, of course, the people who wear a mask no matter what, driving in the car alone, whatever, that hasn’t changed. And there are a handful of places that require masks, but I won’t go to those places and I’m hearing others won’t go to those places, either.
I haven’t put a mask on in months and have not been booted out of any stores yet. If NY can overcome this, so can the other states.
As Michael Reid said: “The way out of this is for everyone to ignore the rules “
Exactly. These are not laws. Period. Quit complying.
@phoenix: I’m with Michael Reid. Ignore the bulls**t that’s being touted. How could they possibly monitor every back road between the states throughout this immense country?
These days the narrative has left the gravitational pull of *clown world* and entered an orbit that no intelligent person could fathom if they wanted to. So don’t bother trying to, or invest emotional energy in it.
This is the US. There won’t be interstate travel bans.
@thomas: Is that a mail-in ballet? Can people in CA still vote in person? Avoid the election fraud, which is blatant at this point, as much as possible. Seems harder for the fraudsters to mess with an in-person vote.
The drs “believe” my mother has had multiple mini strokes (in her early 80s) recently as she no longer can think straight, and her husband was taken by ambulance to the hospital last month for a small stroke.
Raul: “Liberte” Paris tweet
Seeing in action what Dr D writes about. Who has the power?
Go France!!!
Raul: “Well, while we’re mourning the 9/11 deaths …”
I’m not.
There’s a time for mourning, and there’s a time to move on. For those of us who didn’t lose a close loved one on that day, mourning for people we didn’t know 20 years after the fact is a bit unbalanced.
Not sure why humans focus on negative stuff. Much healthier emotionally to acknowledge something bad happened, think about it briefly, and get on with the act of living.
I’m also very suspect when an autopsy done on a person who died following vaccination determines “the vaccine wasn’t a factor”.
Sorry, but without seeing the actual pathology tests run and the results of those tests, I ain’t buying it. Just what DID that person die from then? Blood clots that caused a heart attack or a stroke … that originated why?? Would need far more details before I buy into the BS that the vaccine couldn’t be the catalyst.
And that, dear friends, is what this covid mess has done to the last little bit of my trust in the US medical system.
We’re on our own in this fustercluck. “Team Pony” for the win … 😉
@Raul:
“How many fully vaxxed breakthrough cases are being reported as vaccine deaths?”
ZERO
“What I think is happening is the vaccines have started to kill people, the vaccinated. But those deaths are, and will be, reported as Covid deaths, unless there’s very clear evidence that it was the vaccine.
Which means the entire danger profile of the vaccines will remain hidden for a long time.”
EXACTLY.
These vaccines are horrifically dangerous (I use the word horrific on purpose). Not only are vaccine deaths being reported as covid deaths, the true vaccine adverse event death count will never be known because even if in the future we carry out a postmortem examination of the cases of death, the *true* numbers have been lost forever. They were never examined.
Spend a bit of time in VAERS and notice how many elderly died following vaccination in Dec/Jan/Feb of 2020/21 … it’s astronomical. Would they have died anyhow? No one will ever know. No assessment took place.
As time passes we now have vaccinated people developing cancer, dying unexpectedly from heart attacks and strokes, etc. Vaccine related? We will never know.
Dr D: “You get free cable and free healthcare ONLY IF YOU DON’T WORK. You get the boot in the teeth if you do. I can take a hint.”
Boom!!!! 😉
Dr Peter McCullough interview posted 9/10 on Mercola site. Will be taken down within the next 36 hours. I’m listening now – it’s informative, as McCullough always is.
Re: population vaccination rates. Doesn’t matter the country … question is …
Is the vaccination rate the percentage of the ENTIRE population, or is it the percentage of the population that is eligible for vaccination? (12 and over, 16 and over, etc.) I’ve not been clear on that detail and no one seems to address it.
V Arnold: “… but, I still want out of this imposed madness infecting everything, everywhere…
No one with a modicum of sanity could possibly be enjoying this collective madness…”You have perfectly summarized how I feel at this point.
I recently started a new job with a federal contractor in the healthcare sector. Fully remote (isn’t even a corp office in my state). The employer has a vaccine mandate in place for all client-facing staff, but it does not apply to remote workers.
Looks like that could change. From the White House’s website outlining Biden’s plan:
“The Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services (CMS) is taking action to require COVID-19 vaccinations for workers in most health care settings that receive Medicare or Medicaid reimbursement … This action builds on the vaccination requirement for nursing facilities recently announced by CMS, and will apply to … clinical staff, individuals providing services under arrangements, volunteers, and staff who are not involved in direct patient, resident, or client care.“
I’ll let you guys know how this shakes out. I may be unemployed again shortly. I will not comply.
@phoenix: the vaccinated people shed *something* … probably spike proteins.
I don’t think most people are claiming the vaccinated shed the virus itself – that counter argument is a manipulation tactic used by those who don’t want to look at a very real possibility. They twist around what is justifiable concern over shedding spike proteins and say “can’t shed virus, it’s not in the vaccine.”
No sh*t, Sherlock. That’s not what we said, is it?
Two times now when I’ve been in close proximity for a length of time – hours (with my adult son) following his vaccinations, I got sick with odd symptoms and also had resurfacing of a couple health issues I hadn’t experienced in years. At first I dismissed it as coincidence. But then I realized the health issues I was experiencing were in keeping with the adverse events following vaccination reported in VAERS.
They’re shedding. Not sure how much, how soon, for how long, exactly what it is … but they are. Probably varies between people, proximity, how soon after vaccination, etc.
I also think that being in close proximity for brief periods with someone who has been recently vaccinated – even having a conversation in a shop – can provoke mild symptoms in the unvaccinated. (here’s a question … what about the cropping up of symptoms in someone who was vaccinated 7 months ago that’s exposed to the newly vaccinated??)
If you’d asked me 8 months ago about this, I’d have said no way. That’s ridiculous.
Now? I’d say yes. They. Are. Shedding. Something.
oxy, the only problem with tracking adverse vaccine events to date and determining they aren’t that bad is … the mid- to long-term consequences. There is no way to know what those are/could be until … years in the future.
“Choosing not to take the vaccine is holding space for reason, transparency and accountability to emerge.”
BRAVO!!! Hang in and hang on, everyone, as best you can.
Thank you again, Raul, for all that you do to share information with us. Needed and appreciated.
ctbarnum: it appears even Jim Kunstler is getting downright pissed. “We will never do your bidding.”
I second that statement. It’s not “a bridge too far” it’s more akin to “I’ll live under the bridge before I …”
limeincoconut: “I would love to see the dosing trials from the various manufacturers. How did they determine the size of the “one size fits all” dose? Did they know about the waning immunity of the vaccine and increase the dose to help cover that? What did they know about the pathogenic nature of the spike protein?”
Dosing trials: K Denniger covered this in a recent post on his NAD site, including the idea they increased trial dosing because they knew immunity would wane quickly if they didn’t.
The Science knew about the pathogenic nature of spike proteins last December (2020). A study was released by [don’t remember who, Salk Institute?, a well-respected institution] proving the pathogenic nature of spike proteins. Shortly after being published, that study was edited to note that the spike proteins produced by vaccination were “different” than that by infection, although it’s not explained why that’s the case.
Anyone else with more detailed info, feel free to jump in. Long day – tired! 😉
russell: “The ship is going to either sink, run aground or sail off over the age of the world at some point, so staying aboard at this stage is only prolonging the inevitable.“
Can’t argue with that.
Well put, mister: “embraces the whole thing, because the left in the USA has a way of attracting people who are very existentially empty. People who are empty in this way are drawn to neurotic drama as a form of existential “junk food”.”
I remember Carlin had a routine that talked about, I think, obsession with taking pics/videos rather than actually experiencing an event as it happened. Something about “are we so emotionally bankrupt …” Or something like that.
oxy, yes the world is batshit crazy. It’s a religion and people have *welcomed* being brainwashed to the point of insanity. You see it especially in those who have been severely vaccine injured but still promote vaccination. The link the other day to the mother in her 30s who is now disabled from the vaccine was literally insane: after seeing what happened, her husband still got vaccinated AND she plans to vaccinate her young daughter. No sane mother would risk having what happened to herself happen to her child.
Dr D: “I’m more frustrated the people say “Yes, okay, uh-huh.”
So am I. People were definitely thumbing their noses for awhile here since almost no one wore masks inside even though unvaxxed were always supposed to. Unfortunately here in NY when the CDC recommends something it becomes “no mask no service”. Period. I don’t care about restaurants, entertainment, etc., can skip all that and not give them my money. But groceries are a bit of a necessity.
Sorry, oxy. 🙁 I skimmed it – drivel is a kind word to describe it. When we “re-opened” our office last year I had to develop a written covid policy that addressed every protocol to be used for prevention and then response to potential infection. Including login and taking temps of every person entering the office, protocol for use on residential construction sites, etc., etc. Then I had to login to a NYS gov’t website, register the business and certify the policy was in place prior to being allowed to open. I get it. It’s tough.
oxy: “I face a $20,000 fine if I am caught working without a printed paper permit.”
Seriously?? Do you have to be vaccinated to obtain the permit??
T-Bear, I picked up on the *logic salad* in that article, too. Makes zero sense whatsoever. That’s common now in covid/vaccine reporting. Lots of humans are apparently far dumber than I realized.
my parents, from yesterday: “The rotten part is that he called me an idiot for saying I wouldn’t be taking the “vaccine”. I don’t feel “I told you so”- I feel rotten.”
I understand. I don’t feel “I told you so” toward anyone who has been vaccinated and harmed and/or could be harmed as the months unfold. I feel angry with the gov’t for terrorizing and lying to its citizens, and brokenhearted over the potential harm that could result. Going to be a tough day for me. 🙁
“Residents in all 62 counties in New York state should now wear mask indoors, even if they’re vaccinated, according to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.”
We’re right back where we started. This is never going to end. Don’t know how much longer I can take it. So frustrated and demoralized.
my parents: I’m sorry about your brother. People are having “small” strokes (my mother did), having heart attacks, being diagnosed with cancer … the list goes on and on as to potential detrimental health issues that *may* be related to vaccination.
The *precious narrative* doesn’t want anyone to investigate what could be outcomes from the vaccines. No problem here, just move on. Nearly everyone I care about has been vaccinated. I’m extraordinarily worried about.
Vietnam Vet: “PR messaging into big lie propaganda to misinform and hide the truth from Americans since they don’t matter at all to global oligarchs”
Truth
tdk, a couple decades ago I realized that humans were not *evolving* as rapidly as the *technology* we use was *evolving*. Today’s debacle is evidence of this. Hubris. It’s a human foible.
It’s hard and I struggle with it every day here in NY, and I’m up and down on this believe me, but try not to focus on the people who aren’t even close to understanding. The rest of us are out here. Just need to find each other somehow.
To repost a link from the other day. Lukas Lion: “you can never quiet the lions”
