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Insightful comment on JMG’s open COVID post. The resemblance between the two events is uncanny.
“Recently I have been really stuck by the similarities in the reactions to the covid pandemic and the terrorist attacks in 2001.
The Fear,
The absolute need to be seen doing something about it,
The demonization of anyone questioning the narrative,
The concentration of power
New government powers
The huge new subsidies for those offering solutions (no need for the solutions to actually work, just sound good,)
Bad policy that is unlikely to resolve the problem (or effectively deal with the predicament)
OOPS probably more like Bad policy that make the situation worse.
And Americans turning on one another with an “other” that can not be trusted.It is just that left and the right switched places. We have gone from anti-terrorist authoritarianism to medical totalitarianism.”
My guess is this one will become the gift that keeps on giving.
ctbarnumParticipantAnd you’re going to extrapolate that from one picture of a small rack of helmets? Hello?
ctbarnumParticipant“IF THEY allow FED.GOV to implode (on purpose), disturbed war whoops will fill the air, as the #ANTISPIRIT hoards compulsively lay siege upon normality, while at the same time turning on each other in search of monsters to destroy & victims to exploit…”
That’s what I’m seeing as well. At least for awhile. Buckle up.
ctbarnumParticipantI don’t think we’ve seen the bottom for deflationista yet.
ctbarnumParticipantMore Nazis here:
ctbarnumParticipantJust some Nazis here discussing Nazi stuff.
This morning, the President and Vice President met with their national security team and senior officials to hear updates on the draw down of our civilian personnel in Afghanistan, evacuations of SIV applicants and other Afghan allies, and the ongoing security situation in Kabul. pic.twitter.com/U7IpK3Hyj8
— The White House (@WhiteHouse) August 15, 2021
ctbarnumParticipantDenninger today, noting how the vaccines can turn on those who receive them.
“This sort of ridiculous acceleration of disease progression is a screaming safety signal. It strongly implies, but does not prove, that the vaccine turned on the recipient and when later exposed made the progression of disease worse.
This was repeatedly demonstrated in animal testing with the original SARS virus when vaccine development was attempted. It was believed the cause of it was evaded by the current vaccines developed for Covid-19 but the only way to know for sure was to take years of testing to make certain that the ordinary mutational patterns that all viruses undergo did not result in such an outcome down the road.
This is one of the many reasons it takes 10+ years to qualify a vaccine; you can’t un-take the shot, and if something like this happens and then you get infected you’re ****ed.”
ctbarnumParticipantWRT Portland: I really hope this guy doesn’t go into a pool.
It’s fairly obvious he doesn’t understand the concept of water treatment.
Beside, some are pretty into the drinking pee thing, hence, “golden showers.”
ctbarnumParticipant*theirs” should be “there’s” some agreement….
ctbarnumParticipant“If the feds keep up their current BS, that will likely be the result. It would probably take years to finalize? Although who knows at this point..”
One would think so, but politically everything is chaos right now, even down to the state and local levels. Mayors and counties want to have their little fiefdoms to rule, so there’s no balance of powers at any level. Sort of along the lines of JMG’s chart reading before Biden’s selection. As an example, we have mayors in Florida going completely #AntiLogos with mask mandates in defiance of Desantis’ order for parents to decide from their own risk analysis with the word “dictator”, which prompted this reply:
“”Since when do dictators prioritize individual rights over the unchecked expansion of government power?” said DeSantis press secretary Christina Pushaw, who pointed to reports that Washington, D.C., mayor Muriel Bowser had not abided by her own mask mandate. “That is truly dictatorial behavior. Rules for thee, but not for me.”
I feel as if part of this tussle is there are significant factions of both parties that wish to see the nation state done away with entirely and corporations to rule because, well, WalMart prices means they know everything. Ummm…..no. Completely fascist #Antilogos mindset in charge within governing structures, so there’s more chaos to come until theirs some agreement on the framework of state level cooperation. Could be a few years as you noted, but a hard few years.
ctbarnumParticipantMadamski
““DeSantis cannot print money, he can only withhold it.””
Agree with your analysis for this. I would only add that since the beginning of the COVID hysteria, governors of many states agreed to coordinate their response, which at the time I thought would lead to some form of regional secession (especially given the social unrest from both wings) with the federales just being ignored.
A thought experiment, since governors can only withhold, not print, what is to stop a coordinated set of governors from wanting to secede given the Biden elimination of state laws (no checks and balances, union of individual states, etc, supposedly)? Of course, a downside of that (aside from what happened the last time) is the end of the dollar as reserve currency. If things keep going as they are, this scenario can’t easily be discounted.
ctbarnumParticipantHope
WATCH: A big crowd protesting Covid mandates chants ‘U-S-A’ inside the Oklahoma State Capitol.
— Election Wizard (@ElectionWiz) August 15, 2021
ctbarnumParticipantIn case the image doesn’t post.
Life imitate Memes.
Life imitates memes pic.twitter.com/ZJnxTDu3d8
— Ultraman (@UltramanOsa) August 15, 2021
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And that’s all I have to say about that. Fallacious post using false equivalency does get kind of old.
Now, back to the nap you brought on.
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ctbarnumParticipantThanks for the Denninger link. I found this in the comments (go to Bluto):
” The rate of increase in the southeastern states is slowing greatly. Florida is now #42 in the nation in weekly increase of cases. The top 5 are now: Washington state, Vermont, New Hampshire, New Mexico, and Virginia. The vaccination rates in those states range from 63% to 73%. Additionally, all of those states, except for New Mexico are in northern latitudes so they are going to get hammered as Vitamin D levels wane with the onset of autumn.”
I looked it up and the link checks out. With all the shrieking about Florida and school boards wanting mask mandates, we are also in the middle for hospitalizations and deaths. I think the steep drops that other countries with Delta experienced will also apply here, but not in the Northeast. But I could be wrong.
https://graphics.reuters.com/HEALTH-CORONAVIRUS/USA-TRENDS/dgkvlgkrkpb/
ctbarnumParticipantctbarnumParticipantCoalition of the Unafraid. Found through JMG’s Weekly COVID discussion.
“We stand firmly against the use of fear to motivate or manipulate.
We oppose all media and political fearmongering.
We accept our existence as mortal animals on a finite planet.”
ctbarnumParticipantA bunch of players retiring from the NFL this season, and while they won’t admit the pressure to vaccinate is the cause, I’m pretty sure there would not be so many without it. Including a free agent that had many teams interested.
“ESPN’s Adam Schefter reported Friday that despite interest from teams as a free agent, the veteran running back is retiring.”
https://www.yahoo.com/now/nfl-rumors-former-patriots-rb-151113220.html
ctbarnumParticipantChecked on the CJ Hopkins discussion from yesterday. From the looks of it, more than a few are not worried about firings. Tie it in with health care workers resigning over forced vaccination and there might be more pushback than we all think.
My name is Jennifer. I live in Germany. I may soon be banned from eating at restaurants, traveling by plane, train and bus, attending ceremonies, cultural events and otherwise participating in society, because I refuse to convert to the new official ideology.#newnormal pic.twitter.com/IW6Y7dtHXY
— Jennifer van den Belt (@JennifervdBelt) August 13, 2021
ctbarnumParticipant— HoneyBadger (@BurnerHoney) August 13, 2021
ctbarnumParticipantIf you get vaccinated, you’ll get your freedom back.
Aaaaaannnd…it’s gone.
ctbarnumParticipantWait. Even when you’re in your car? Alone? What will they think of next?
This would fracture the country almost immediately https://t.co/d51cpG94SC
— Tim Pool (@Timcast) August 13, 2021
ctbarnumParticipantThe establishment asks, in ad hominem fashion, “Why don’t people trust the science (TM)?”. And we answer, because
“Whether it is GMO crop technology or COVID vaccines, we are seeing a huge unscientific experiment using people as human guinea pigs to rake in massive profits.”
I for one do not wish to be one of those human guinea pigs when it comes to vaccines. I didn’t get a choice on GMOs.
Science, Salvation and Heretics: From Monsanto to Pfizer it’s the same old playbook
ctbarnumParticipantWe don’t have elections now. We have appointments.
ctbarnumParticipant“so confyoozing! .. by design?”
My hypothesis is that assortative mating among the PMC class and “elites” has led to inbreeding and consequent mental dysfunctions that have led to #Antilogos that are compounded by cognitive bias. The madness of King George has returned.
ctbarnumParticipantFully agreed and it’s a problem. deflationista’s post almost (I do have to qualify in case I’m in error) are meant to equate what we’ve come to conclude from the information presented over the last 18 months with “right wing rhetoric,” and thus, present us as a “lunatic fringe” that shouldn’t be seen as trustworthy. Which is far from the truth, as most of us including myself square with left-libertarian thought. Which makes deflationista’s comments full of ad-hominem in a deceptive manner. So obviously people are going to react emotionally.
ctbarnumParticipantFirst, I must apologize for my flub this morning, as I usually attempt to post images as screenshots via files from my computer and they have not been posting for awhile.
Second, I don’t know what the CDC said today to freak everyone out, but those in health care have gone into psychosis again over COVID. I received a call from my doctor’s office that said if I had been exposed to someone with COVID in the last 10 days (not likely) or was awaiting a negative test (that I can’t afford) that I would need to reschedule (late Friday afternoon for a Monday appointment? Really?). I already have medicine, so I don’t understand the freakout. Then at the pharmacy, I had a difficult time dropping off a script because personnel were freaking out about sanitizing the area after a Hispanic lady approached the counter. A pharmacy cashier took my script and apologized for the inconvenience after I asked, “What did the CDC say today to illicit this reaction?”
My guess is the “expert opinion” that the Delta variant was as contagious as chickenpox, which came from data “collected” from a NYT infographic. Huh?
CDC Took Mistaken Data on Delta Variant Transmissibility From a New York Times Infographic
What’s next? Recommendations sourced from Dilbert cartoons? Though that wouldn’t be any different from the methodology of the last 18 months. Garbage In, Garbage Out, Garbage Bureaucrats.
ctbarnumParticipantctbarnumParticipantI want to see if I can make this Image appear. Response to Doug Little deleted tweet.
ctbarnumParticipantOne way to begin resisting.
Fully-vaccinated protesters in Italy are burning their vaccine passes in a powerful display of solidarity against the tying of civil liberties to vaccination status.pic.twitter.com/HMeyaeHMUo
— Michael P Senger (@MichaelPSenger) August 7, 2021
ctbarnumParticipant“5.Your compliance will never make this go away. Only resistance can do that.”
Because power never lets go willingly.
ctbarnumParticipantGiven I posted this to deflationista awhile back (and late at night so I doubt they saw it), and the rhetoric toward us has devolved to insinuating we are “cranks”, I think the post needs a revisits. As before, sane is not happening.
After reading that long screed that seems to summarize your view that most alternative writers have “gone to the dark side,” what about Caitlin Johnstone? Has she gone crazy too? She’s said nothing about COVID the past 18 months while her country fell further and further down the rabbithole of totalitarianism, but now she has had the courage to connect the dots. Is she “crazy” now?
“The sane way to counteract the public distrust that’s been caused by generations of lies, wars and depravity would be a tremendous increase in transparency, accountability and contrition on the part of those institutions, showing the public that they have changed and are working to become more trustworthy. So naturally what we are seeing is vaccine mandates in New York City, pundits calling for forced injections, and soldiers policing the streets of Sydney.”
The problem. Sane is not happening.
https://caitlinjohnstone.substack.com/p/after-russiagate-why-wouldnt-people
This time is not like any other we have seen in our lifetimes, but parallels to the past are too noticeable. Medicine has been at the forefront of quite a few great advances, but also a good many crimes using “research” as their justification. One of those possible stories is me (count me as not a fan of Johns Hopkins, but it’s a long story), however, I’ve always been on the line as to whether what happened was a crime or an advance that helped succeeding generations of children avoid the life I have. That said, I am not going to jump into another experiment “for science” when the evidence shows the risks outweigh the benefits. I feel for your situation, however, there is a reason we have agreements such as the Nuremburg Code and the Belmont Report, it’s so we can say NEVER AGAIN. And here we are, pick a side. You can either say never again, or it’s okay again. Just remember, the same people who told us in 2001 there was reason to torture the “other” are the same people who view COVID as a reason to limit the sovereignty of the new “other.” Your choice. Pick a side.
I believe deflationista has chosen. Reason and evidence will not persuade.
ctbarnumParticipantThere needs to be truth-telling about the reduced protection of mRNA vaccines vs symptomatic Delta infections.
It was 95% pre-Delta.
Many are claiming it's still ~80%.
It isn't.
50-60% is best estimate from all sources (not US, since we don't have the data) pic.twitter.com/ep608YW0J7— Eric Topol (@EricTopol) August 11, 2021
ctbarnumParticipantCDC gets caught in a lie AGAIN. Quelle surprise. A news article I found on Facebook made a claim that Florida’s hospitalization numbers surpassed NY at the 2020 peak, which didn’t line up with what I was seeing here. You hardly hear an ambulance go by except during yesterday’s surprise thunderboomer, the first ambulance I’d heard in two weeks.
“Florida’s health department called out the incorrect CDC information publicly, stating earlier this week: “Wrong again. The number of cases @CDCgov released for Florida today is incorrect. They combined MULTIPLE days into one. We anticipate CDC will correct the record.”
ctbarnumParticipant“How he puts up with our antics while maintaining his quick wit and hip humor I can’t begin to fathom! God bless!”
Agreed!
@Mister Roboto
While our brother in site certainly has a decent point now and again, I myself can’t seem to deny a good smack when one goes off the rails that far. Point taken though.
ctbarnumParticipant“The commentary on this site reads like a special segment from the My Pillow Guy’s Cyber Symposium. And, just as factual.”
Far be it from me to state this, but you are here, why? Did the CDC send you?
ctbarnumParticipant@those darned kids
“I think history has taught us that every single one of us can become an authoritarian.”
Not just history, but also through Zimbardo, but I think it also identifying with roles often explains our “powerlessness” that leads to learned helplessness.
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