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ParticipantI’ve got to back up, you can’t be the Devil’s Advocate with tunnel vision.
Here’s something I was looking for:
“In the movie “The Big Short,” one of the characters predicted that for every 1% increase in unemployment, some 40,000 people would die an early death. It could be suicide, drugs, alcohol, spousal abuse, heart attacks, but being out of work and poor kills a lot of people. So if we go to 32% unemployment as the Federal Reserve predicts, how many people must die?”
Now that’s obviously a slippery number. How early a death? Is it overcome by being illegally placed under endless house arrest? Etc. But roughly, these are the scale of numbers to compare: 20,000 deaths, probably at peak, vs 40,000 x say +10(%) or 400,000 deaths.
So do you want more or fewer people killed? Your choice.
“You can’t ask the people of this state or this country to choose between lives lost and dollars gained,’ New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo said ” https://www.marketwatch.com/story/how-do-you-choose-between-economic-deaths-of-despair-and-coronavirus-victims-economists-lawmakers-grapple-with-a-moral-conundrum-2020-03-26?siteid=bigcharts&dist=bigcharts
Yes, you you can, Andy. I’m sorry but that is exactly the situation life has presented you. That is exactly what you’re doing, and that we all do every day, when we drive that extra car, and eat that extra cream puff.
Dr. D
ParticipantBlast from the past. Having covered 1972, here’s their next one, right on schedule:
“Why the WHO Faked a Pandemic”
https://www.forbes.com/2010/02/05/world-health-organization-swine-flu-pandemic-opinions-contributors-michael-fumento.html#1cf455d948e8That crazy conspiracy rag, Forbes, back in 2010. You so funny!
“”The world is going through a real pandemic. The description of it as a fake is wrong and irresponsible,” the agency claims on its Web site.”“Indeed, the chairman of its influential health committee, epidemiologist Wolfgang Wodarg, has declared that the “false pandemic” is “one of the greatest medicine scandals of the century.”
Apparently not. That was only 10 years ago, the WHO is still there, and no one remembers. No consequences. Ever. No one care, but sends mo’ money, mo’ (my) money.
“This wasn’t merely overcautiousness or simple misjudgment. The pandemic declaration and all the Klaxon-ringing since reflect sheer dishonesty motivated not by medical concerns but political ones.
Unquestionably, swine flu has proved to be vastly milder than ordinary seasonal flu. It kills at a third to a tenth the rate,”
“Did the WHO have any indicators of this mildness when it declared the pandemic in June?Absolutely…
But how could the organization declare a pandemic when its own official definition required “simultaneous epidemics worldwide with enormous numbers of deaths…?
“WHO promulgated a new definition”
Like all lying weasel, lawyers, hunting their next payout, they just changed the definition of what “Is, is.”
“but why?
In part, it was CYA for the WHO. The agency was losing credibility over the refusal of avian flu H5N1 to go pandemic and kill as many as 150 million people worldwide, as its “flu czar” had predicted in 2005.”That sounds eerily familiar. 25 Million. No 1 million. No, 600,000, no 200,000. 110? 60? And dropping fast, as we see from Fauci now side-stepping the blame, just like the WHO in 2010.
“[WHO director] Chan’s dream now lies in tatters. All the WHO has done, says PACE’s Wodart, is to destroy “much of the credibility”
Nope. They have a placard they on their door from Wal-Mart, that makes them experts, immune to any failure whatsoever. And they know it. Media reports it, people read it, and deny any evidence whatsoever, any history you present, any facts you can name, over failures like clockwork every 12 years since 1968. In fact, we’ll PAY! The more you fail, the more we support you! The more we consider you an expert authority!And every person breathlessly hangs on the words of these serial liars and failures. After running these scams and being discredited since before I was born.
And they wonder how I got to be cynical and suspicious. How about “not as naive, credible, and ready to be abused as a newborn child.” Fool me 110,423 times, shame on me!
Dr. D
Participant“the government would deliver a small [box] to every person in America.”
The government is your Daddy-god, who makes loaves from fishes. “The Government” doesn’t do any work, need any factories, requires no time, has no costs, and makes no mistakes.
Back in the real world, PEOPLE have to invent tests, confirm them, get massive feedstocks in a lockdown, find floor space, install machinery, check address lists, and make payrolls. But in a cartoon world of people who’ve never done work a day in their sorry sheltered lives, that doesn’t exist. Steaks come in packages. Blouses appear –poof—from thin air on your porch, made of aether by blouse-elves. If any such boxes ever should arrive, YOU are the person that made that happen. By doing WORK. The one thing they have never done.
“Coronavirus Spreads at Least 13 Feet, Travels On Shoes: CDC (NYP)”
Science!™ Just like the 14-day quarantine, when we knew it was (could be) 40. What does this mean? Just like mask recommendations, it means it’s all political. They close travel when they’ll get in trouble for not doing it, not for science. They recommend PPE according to what they have, not how contagious it is or who is killed. They tell you how it works based on how convention thinks or how panicked it will make people, not on facts. They set quarantine on what’s good optically, not on evidence. Every. Single. Day. “Science!™: a popularity contest for nerds.”
This is why it’s mostly theatre, folks. Nobody’s following the rules, or a critical minority isn’t, but also those rules they DO have are just made up in contradiction to the facts, and to Science. Yet we’re supposed to pretend they matter, that we should follow them, and that these people deserve attention and respect. They don’t. They’re un-scientific political hacks, pole-dancing for budget handouts like any whore.
“Fauci: US Given Wrong Information About Virus “Right from The Beginning” (JTN)”
Ah, we ARE at the peak (which we know without testing) if they’re shifting blame now. So, Tony, you’re supposed to be the smart guy, how did the that naughty WHO put one over on you? I mean, I knew, and I’m sitting in my parent’s basement playing minecraft. Yet a smart Doctor like you, the one who only just failed the HIV crisis, were taken in? I’ll make it easy: you ruined everybody’s life on earth, or at least America: you’re fired. And that’s BEFORE we find out how you’ve been doing everything to stall HCQ, killing a few thousand more. And he won’t recommend disciplining the WHO, either, by say cutting off their budget. Nope! No consequences for catastrophic failure: “We’re government!”
“102-Year-Old NY Woman Beats COVID-19 With Hydroxychloroquine (CBS)”
What? It cures EVERYONE, regardless of how old? Just like we already knew last month? Huh. So, planning on killing a few thousand more, or can we tell the truth now? (A: never!)
“New Zealand Preparing to End Lockdown (Metro)”
Coincidence is not causation. Do we have any idea whether the lockdowns had any effect? It had the effect of looking like they’re “doing something.” Yes, killing the economy and all the poor people.
“America Should Be Ready for 18 Months Of Shutdowns – Fed’s Neel Kashkari (MW)”
Guess someone should tell him we’ve had a cure from the beginning. That was Mr. Fauci’s job, but he refuses to do it, like everybody else in all $2T of government.
“China Is Censoring Research On COVID-19 Origins (NW)”
Why bother? We have all the evidence and no one will look or print it anyway.
“Kits evaluated by the UK government have failure rates of 30 to 50 per cent.”
I’ll sell you 60 million pennies you can flip. Same thing but cheaper. But why don’t we have tests? Just because they don’t work? We have to do something, even if it creates 50% total fake results, lies, panic, and waste of scarce resources.
“Greek Government to Go after Priests Flouting Quarantine (K.)”
Just like vaccines, if YOU’RE at home, how is THEIR getting sick a problem? You’re safe: let them die if they want. Getting sick is voluntary, I hear, so don’t go out and get it from them. Ah, but then I wouldn’t be able to tell everybody what to do every minute, because of how awesome I am. And especially to tell RELIGIOUS people what to do, because they’re out living life while I cower in my basement ratting on kids playing in their own backyard.
“Lockdown: Not Novels and Family Time but Food Parcels and Hardship (G.)”
But wait, government is always and everywhere good, and will give everything to everyone at no cost. You mean they screw up everything they touch? More government! That’s the cure! Anything but ME doing something and clearly not the Church. We’ll outlaw them and make them stay home. Priests are contagious in masks but social workers aren’t.
Also the government is infinite, and is larger than all of us combined and will do what all of us won’t. Because: Logic! In #AntiLogos, a subset it always larger than the body it comes from.
Dr. D
Participant“Washington DC issued guidelines and left it to the 50 States to do haphazardly lockdowns. This caused the differences in the graphs between Washington, New York and the other states.”
Well that doesn’t sound right. NY locked down first and is worst. Iowa hasn’t locked down and it’s untouched. Yes, NY has more world traffic but then why not D.C. or Miami, O’Hare or Atlanta?
The lockdown is political, so that the Federal could only do it via martial law, which I hope we do not want. As the States are sovereign, they are in control. They have the power. And they’ve used it as they wished, for the first time in my lifetime as legally required, and only because the Feds didn’t. But although always legally having all the power they need, it won’t stop them from complaining and blaming the Federal level which does NOT have the power under our Federal system and the Constitution.As a Federal system should Billings, MT have the same draconian rules as Brooklyn, NYC? Of course not, but that’s what you get if you DEMAND a Federal-only response and complain about any other possible response. That’s part of what makes “tyranny”: that the system, the rules, account for nothing but are iron and ignorant. That and how we see everywhere rules apply to YOU and not them, yesterday with Chicago mayor getting her hair done and proudly clicking a selfie-hug with no masks. “Rules for thee and not for me, forever and ever, amen.” Pass on edicts. Pass on hypercentralization and a monoplan for a nation with 3.79M sq miles.
“A dark age will engulf the West until a treatment is found or democracy.”
OMG people love drama. Shows just how light and laughable the “crisis” is that they have time for such rot and nonsense. There is no Dark Age. All information ever known is at your fingertips. All cell phones work from the Space Stations to McMurdo, Antarctica. Netflix has not been shut off. You can order food and clothes from anywhere worldwide and have them delivered to your door. Even book a transatlantic flight if you wish. How on God’s earth could that be misconstrued as a “Dark Age.” If there’s any dark age, it’s of the mind as well tell ourselves endless, tireless, ceaseless lies, life being so easy we’re bored and need invent things for entertainment.
“Government was drowned in the bathtub.”
Government has been growing in a straight line for 100 years and has never been larger than now, as it controls $2T/year of a $12T (ha) economy. That’s 1/6th. It increased under every president, particularly Reagan, the only person under whom it supposedly shrank, but clearly doubled (?) an already large and essentially pointless ineffectual government as say under Carter. But it’s easy to tell as we claim to have 17 intelligence agencies, a half-dozen law enforcement agencies, FBI, SEC, CFTC, IG, yet not one of them can do a G-d d—–d thing except watch porn, not even stop world-wide child trafficking and rape, among the highest people everybody knew about for decades, not even get from behind a golf cart during a child shooting.
At the same time, this government doles out money and enforces the most unjust and illegal monopolies the world has seen outside of Soviet Russia. Without a hyper-large, extremely active, and fundamentally capricious government, this level of income equality would be impossible. I wouldn’t say government was drowned in a bathtub, I’d say it was The Blob, growing ever larger, mindlessly crushing everything it touches, as right now it didn’t restock 5 million masks and unemployed 16M people.
People talk about how the virus has shut down the economy. The virus did nothing. N O T H I N G. It was a rounding error. It was our CHOICE to voluntarily shut down everything worldwide that shut it down. WE did. It’s not an asteroid from space, we CHOSE it. And that may be wrong or it may be right but the virus had little to do with it. So we don’t have to cure or overcome anything to reopen it. We shut it down voluntarily because we felt like it, so we can re-open it in an instant because we feel like it. Much of America is in “quarantine theatre” that is so full of holes and exceptions it’s buying the worst of both worlds. A third isn’t stopping anything, and wouldn’t, except their bars are closed and people are cranky, so the only places they CAN go, they do. So essentially, they’ve been “open” all along except you put them out of a job and into desperate poverty with a lot of free time. What’s to re-open? Groceries, Wal-Mart, Amazon, Home Depot, Dr.’s offices, car parts, gas stations, pharmacies, pizza parlors, liquor stores, drug dealers, and prostitution are all open right now. Since almost nothing was shut down except (sit-in) restaurants and schools, what’s to reopen? What are we overcoming? Not the virus. Our own choice or fears. The virus has now killed 0.006% of the U.S., and that’s with bad accounting. They claim we’re at the peak.
The virus isn’t in control. It’s not responsible for the economy. We are.
Dr. D
ParticipantSpeaking of lies from my comment yesterday (okay, a few minutes ago), Financial Times: Fake, just ‘cause. ‘Cause always, ‘cause we can’t say any words UNLESS they’re lies, “Death toll is climbing ever faster in NY and London.” No, “ever faster” means the rate is accelerating. That curve is above 45deg. Their curve is still rising, but at an decreasing rate. And why? “Numbers are rising” is still a dramatic headline. The numbers are bigly, so that sells papers anyway. But no, they have to lie, then print it right above their own chart that shows it’s false, they’re lying. Ugh. No one notices. No one cares. The very next thing they say we all believe. “Assad gasses his people.” “RussiaRussiaRussia” “Iraq has WMDs.” Iran, the foremost Shia state, has ties to Al-queda, their opposite and arch enemy, the furthest Sunni Wahaabists. Every word, every day.
Noreda shows decent chart, though. U.S. rates are far lower, not higher. Because we’re ridiculously larger. That’s why we’re not as serious about lockdown, although actually amazingly cooperative, for us, and at great personal cost.
“The Justice Department signaled Saturday night it may intervene”
That’s a heck of a hard call. Hamilton, Henry, didn’t write “you have the right to speak EXCEPT if someone is sick. You can believe what you want EXCEPT if there’s a pandemic, we can call, any time we like, either too early or far too late, and keep the “State of Emergency” “War on Adjectives” going on forever.” It wasn’t “Give me Liberty unless it’s inconvenient and someone might get hurt.” However, obviously now might not be the best time to congregate. Shows that they believe their God and are willing to die for their religion, however, which is why such hatred and scorn is put upon them. “Idiots! Chumps!” By people who believe in nothing, and cower in their basements hating principle and bravery.
“White House officials concede the approach will have little effect on the larger economy”
Yeah, this guy lives on the coast. So, because YOU have trouble with medieval diseases and open sewers on every sidewalk from San Diego to Redmond, the guys in Tulsa have to eat s—t and die in a box, starving and unemployed. Oh wait, that was every other day for the last 30 years; This disease changes everything. Not. Not only is he dictating everything for the other 3,000 counties with almost no cases (of course!) but we have the MonoCulture, where one size fits all, regardless of if you’re a town of 300 in Wyoming or W. Virginia. ‘Cause I said so! I’m a Schmarty! Look upon me and my arrogant genius and despair! Abandon all hope, ye who read the L.A. Times.
This is why we have Federalism, where one size does not fit all and we push the decisions down as far locally as we can. ESPECIALLY in INCREDIBLY large and diverse nations.
More models. If Finland is right, why hasn’t everyone gotten it already? Clearly it’s impossible to leave your house without being contaminated according to their computer. A: because it’s a computer CGI we invented in our heads. Mostly, but not entirely devoid of reality. Why? Because we already know from the results their model cannot possibly be true. Great job over-hyping and scaring everyone to death though! Suicide rates are way up!
“I have to be complimentary, otherwise I would be simply lying”–Newsom
Hell hath frozen over. It is the end of the world indeed. No about Trump, but that a politician opened his mouth and did not tell lies. That we know of. Yet.
“Hundreds Of US Meat Workers Have Tested Positive For Coronavirus (LATimes)”
Along with tens of thousands everywhere. So? Did they stay home with kleenex for a day like everyone else? Getting it means NOTHING. It’s only people who need medical care that matters. Again, great job with wild, unfounded fear. And the deaths you cause from it you can’t go to jail for! So this article: “Two people in the entire U.S. meat packing industry died.” In four months. Wow.
“also that of Africa, where the situation is developing differently”
Now that’s interesting. Which is why they didn’t follow up or provide any facts, however vague, about it. How is it different? Guarantee it’s different in a way that doesn’t support The Narrative™. Not looking though because EVERYTHING I see doesn’t follow The Narrative™.
“Here’s the timeline of government failure.”
Answer: more government, more laws, more rules, more budgets.
Greece: Exactly what I was going to say from their numbers. Greece is wildly smaller = fewer cases. But also because far smaller, far more rural and disperse. Adjust for those two and you’ll find, sure they were better, but how much? Probably mild. From this logic you could say Iowa was better, far smarter than NY. Not really. They just don’t have 67,000ppl/sq.mi.
“Is The Next Great Depression Here? (VT) “
We’ve been in it since ‘08, ‘01, or even 1994, your choice. They’ve done everything they can to keep it going and make it worse, just like FDR, in order to prevent a few wealthy people from finding fair market value and losing a small % of money. Now an entire generation has no houses, no children, no household formation, no retirement. So thanks for killing and eating your children, you cannibals. Right now they’re doing it via medicare while all the young are out of jobs.
“Turkish Court Accepts Indictment For Khashoggi Murder Suspects (DS)”
I struggle to imagine what possible jurisdiction they would have over Saudi sovereign territory, affairs, and citizens, but law? What law? We just make it up.
“Government money creation … spurs prosperity.”
Done reading. If this were even SLIGHTLY true, then why does prosperity ALWAYS get WORSE every time they create money? Not just here, but everywhere in history? No one notices. Nods heads, “Oh you’re right, Mr. Expert, you’re so brave and strong to dilute the money –I– use, and thereby steal MY hard work for yourself to distribute to others, to your friends, to buy support.” So where does your bread, your cheese, your chair come from? From ME, getting up at 4am and W O R K I N G. Your money creation means NOTHING, has no purpose, no creation, no intelligence, no risk, no value, no worth. You’re just stealing to buy votes from the people who DON’T work. And by this I mostly mean Wall Street and they hand money back to you, D.C. to keep this theft and power rolling, and us all near-dead. Even in the odd and uncommon chance that you actually create a road or bridge that might have value, which hasn’t been done in my lifetime, all that money going to Google and Apple and every defense contractor that never built a plane that could fly, while more than half the nation dies in decay in Flint. But go ahead: no one will learn any other way. Do it until the nation collapses and the poor die most, like every other time and place in history.
“At the time, Assange, 48, was also wanted in Sweden”
Very clever to bring them up prominently fill space with them, knowing they are now quite provably false. Good job, Daily Mail, who cleverly prints all false things while technically being free of libel. “I didn’t SAY your mother was a whore, I said SOME PEOPLE said she was. Anonymous people we don’t know. And later retracted it.” See?
Speaking of, wasn’t that “Worst Shift” nurse the one who made everything up, wasn’t on shift, and was totally discredited?
P.S. CBS is still using the false footage from Italy. After being exposed for their fake news. Twice. Not. Helping.
Dr. D
ParticipantThe trouble with Americans, as I say 4x a day, is that every person that speaks is lying, and every thing you hear, read, or even see, is a lie. When it comes to a crisis, then, what will people believe? As it is composed of almost entirely lies, each person has no possible choice but to invent a constellation of facts, of truths, to make order out of a body of facts that – because all lies – make no sense on their own.
So “hoax” is quite a big word. I wouldn’t say it’s a hoax but it’s been a generation since media DIDN’T radically and irresponsibly over-hype anything, everything, they put their attention on. We’re catching them at it regularly now. My feeling is that it is like the ‘68 Hong Kong flu no one heard about unless you were there, and had no effects and no memory. Or even the ‘72 Swine Flu that they killed a few thousand in just four weeks with irresponsible vaccines, before they got Reagan to indemnify them against any deaths or injuries, regardless of how bad or how many.
We add that to our present system, which despite deserved criticism about cost, nevertheless carefully keeps most chronically unhealthy people alive decades longer than before. So they are teetering on the edge, taking 20 drugs daily just to not die already. I don’t know what to say for that. Should we do nothing? Probably not, but with the deaths over 80, you have to wonder where this was going to stop anyway. We mourn death to some extent because of the time stolen from us. But these people have already stolen 10 years from Time.
We are protected from death, as we are protected from life, now so neurotic that shots are fired if your coffee isn’t hot, much less see things live and die daily: cattle, chickens in a pot, your sister, brother, dog, all die elegantly, “correctly” out of sight, with everything paid to be witnessed and cleaned up by someone else. They don’t want that bubble popped. Who would?
So it’s easy to create panic when 10 years of delayed deaths occur, or another way, a whole year’s worth of deaths cram into 3 months, in a population that like shiny children, has never once seen death, less faced it.
My point is simply that we can attempt to save a few – and not even by “saving” them at all, but by delaying their inevitable injury until later, when the hospitals can accept them – and then murder 1,000 more because we forget the economy is 8 billion times larger – larger than the virus, larger than the banks, larger than the government – because the “economy” is us. So in a logical sense: do you want to kill more or fewer people? Apparently, clearly, they want more, which leads to the question: why? If we have potential drugs, they immediately outlaw their investigation everywhere, why? They immediately want new paperwork, new passports, new abuses none of which have any logical purpose in promoting health. Why?
And so on. So is it a hoax? Yes. No. Is it being planned, engineered, executed for power? Yes. No. At any moment on planet earth, there’s a lot going on, with a lot of people and a lot of intents, many of which are trialed but come to nothing. But you can be sure people will be trying to advantage themselves at the expense of others with whatever comes along.
Also for Korea, 500k people is just one city. Out of a nation with 3,142 counties. I know that sounds mean, but it’s impossible to recognize how vast and endless America is without spending time here. Like I said, one city is the size of half of Spain. When that’s the case, large numbers seem modest to us. And similar to any other town: should the entire town of Mayberry shut down because two people died at the County Rest Home today? Of course not. And we don’t even have numbers that high.
Is there a thing? Yes. Should we do something, try to dampen the impact on health workers, get the vulnerable through somehow? Yes. But not at the cost of sacrificing everyone instead, our livelihoods, our centuries of law and freedoms. Especially when their severe measures – even according to themselves – won’t stop the disease anyway. Everybody’s going to get it. They’re just trying to insure a hospital bed for them, while being able to do very little for you if you end up there. 80% mortality rate. Stay at home.
Dr. D
ParticipantYay Greece! Here’s Sweden:
https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?get_gallery=7945That’s in this article: http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=238895
” A phlebotomist working at Roseland Community Hospital said Thursday that 30% to 50% of patients tested for the coronavirus have antibodies while only around 10% to 20% of those tested have the active virus.What?
IF this is true in the Chicago metro area, and other major metros, then it means…
…the spread of the virus may have been underway in the Roseland community – and the state and country as a whole – prior to the issuance of stay at home orders and widespread business closures in mid-March which have crippled the national economy.
Not may.
Was.
…That also means that we were one generation had we left it alone — literal days to a couple of weeks — away from herd suppression — and were when the shutdowns started. We did nothing — we haven’t saved ONE single life! Suppression is occurring due to herd immunity — not the “mitigations” including lockdowns.
The mitigations did not change the slope of any of these curves — at all.”
No one cares.
And they knew it which is how they knew the exact day of the peak, with both sides making all the political hay they can. Ching!! $$$
Dr. D
ParticipantOkay, we’re finally neck and neck in tortoise and the hare, Wu Flu is now roughly equal to regular flu over a 4-month quarter. Estimates of Wu have now dropped +90%, peak appears to be here, which is odd, since they could predict exactly to the day with no data and no one tested.
So if we’ve peaked, it’s now tapering off and over. Which is also odd, since no place but NY(city), West Coast, and NOLA seem to have any problems. Is Tulsa really that bad that the Wu won’t visit it? Is St. Louis really a virus pariah zone? And here I thought Americans were mobile, yet no virus can reach DesMoines. Since news and drama cannot reach there, maybe I should move to the nation’s safe zone.
Explain, anyone?Hey, what about those tests? You know, that Australia said were contaminated with Wu? So if you take the test, you would have contracted it? And what about the 50-80% false positive rate? Sounds like if we used their test, you would have had mass panic and the very rates WHO/CDC/Gates were predicting. You know, the rates we DIDN’T have, and they were all COMPLETELY WRONG, and yet never discredited. Never. Can I prove that? No. Not exactly. But both parts of my thesis were reported by major outlets and the conclusion from those facts is unavoidable. But I cannot prove intent, and don’t have access to the size and scope of contamination. But I don’t have to, since I can tell from their own public actions what they wanted, meant, and was going on.
Pick for yourself, which data set, which explanation fits the most fact and makes the most sense?
“Doctors Alarmed After Some COVID19 Patients Test Positive After Recovering (RT)”
Wasn’t this the 2nd thing we learned about it back in January, that it took this from the HIV genes? Oh wait, sorry, we’re still denying that, it came from pangolins, the world’s rarest creature. Doesn’t matter if you can re-aquire since you can shrug it off with good health, or shut it down with HCQ/Zinc channel. Bet BoJo the clown is running a little theatre for us right now.
“Doctors Say Ventilators Are Overused for COVID19 (Stat)”
Yes, since you have a 20% survival rate if you get on one. But I thought we needed 30,000 Mr. Cuomo. We didn’t even need 5k? And note, this ain’t Hollywood. Getting on a respirator is pretty bad for your body and your health. It’s just better than dying.
“Pay Cuts, Furloughs, Layoffs for Doctors, Nurses, Healthcare Workers (BI)”
Let’s see, you can get $10K/mo for helping in NY. You’ve stopped all voluntary procedures, and most people in “medicine” do useless paperwork that inflates costs. This may not be the article they intend. It’s saying there’s no patients, no crisis.
“ New York Has More Cases Than Any Country (BBC)”
Yes, because NYC Metro alone is half the size of the nation of Spain but has 67,000ppl/sq.mi. The U.S. is pretty large. Also China reporting is possibly 20 Million short of the actual deaths if cell phones are to be believed.
“Trump: Widespread Testing ‘Would Never Happen’, Not Needed to Reopen US (NW)”
Apparently he could never get Pfizer, et co to not contaminate the tests and create a little business. Britain couldn’t either.
“Social distancing works.” – — Ohio Dept of Health
Says the guys who didn’t bother to look at Iowa. But data is not our forte’. We’re Science!™
“UK Gov’t: Keep Economy Running, We Will All Get COVID-19 Anyway (Nafeez Ahmed)”
I guess we’ll find out next week when they lift martial law. If it doesn’t bounce back instantly, then it was never helping in the first place. I mean, other than helping us line our pockets and win/buy elections.
“US Shouldn’t Bail Out Hedge Funds, Billionaires – Chamath Palihapitiya (CNBC)”
Sure, but this is destroying the very system they depend on (since they don’t do any work), so 2nd level effects will wipe them out shortly anyway. It’s quite a bit more thorough that way.
“Taiwan said it had been denied access to vital information”
They won on both sides there. First, they informed the WHO what was happening in China, and WHO ignored them, killing ten thousands. Oh, while China was busy killing doctors and whistleblowers. Next, Taiwan couldn’t get information BACK from a WHO that is 100% political, 0% science and health, and refused to communicate because Taiwan is not a real nation. No joke.
If Tedros is not offended of being black, and that is an actual fact of his person, then how is it racist? Sounds like everybody’s on the same page. “You’re negro!” “Yes. I am. Thanks.” And? Taiwan is also Chinese. Is that racist to say? (Yes, according to the White House Press Corps, who also claim “Muslim” is a race.)
“How Greece Flattened the Coronavirus Curve (AlJ)”
Same way Iowa did? That is, the flattening was happening anyway? Same way Italy and NYC did not, despite total lockdowns?
“Saudi Energy Minister Says OPEC+ Oil Pact Hinges On Mexico Joining (R.)”
Don’t know why they would do this: Pemex is out of oil. But then so is Saudi Arabia, so… Cartel of the NON-oil producing countries? Add Luxemburg and Samoa. Then papers report it as if it’s real.
Dr. D
ParticipantHey remember this blast from the past?
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2009-apr-27-sci-swine-history27-story.html“Swine flu ‘debacle’ of 1976 is recalled” -LA Times Not exactly right-wing.
““The government wanted everyone to get vaccinated,” Ward said. “But the epidemic never really broke out. It was a threat that never materialized.”
What did materialize were cases of a rare side effect thought to be linked to the shot. The unexpected development cut short the vaccination effort — an unprecedented national campaign — after 10 weeks.
The episode triggered an enduring public backlash against flu vaccination, embarrassed the federal government and cost the director of the U.S. Center for Disease Control, now known as the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, his job.”
Huh, you mean they’ve been doing this every 12 years for DECADES? Killing thousands, paying billions in damages?
Yes. Yes. Yes. And it still works Every. Time. There is no POSSIBLE level of failure that can discredit the experts, the authorities, weapons of mass destruction and ties to al-Qaeda, we are not wiretapping Americans, RussiaRussiaRussia. So if everyone loves that so much, who am I to say?
P.S. where’d that Zika thing go? Or ebola? Or H1N1? Weren’t some of them Class 6 pandemics, we were all going to die unless we gave CDC/WHO/Pfizer tons more money? Come on, people: Every YEAR? Please stop for me. At least make it 25 or 50 years before you forget.
Dr. D
ParticipantYour chart was inclusive of Covid. We’re talking about ones like this:

https://i.stack.imgur.com/3ehhg.pngOf which data needs further investigation, but is not salutary to their case. Apparently heart attacks are the same. And as your client, many choose not to hospital, and therefore die at home. NYC has many stories of this right now, for which they media is claiming they are all therefore Wu Flu, because it has been known for people to keel over in the streets. …But heart attacks ALSO make you keel over in the streets and are normal. So I have heard (but trouble finding charts, data in flux, etc) that NYC heart attacks have somehow all halted, and I would bet that they are being reported as Wu, just like the Pneumonia chart above. Why? No tests.
This goes to another problem, where death certificate reporting rules may conflict with CDC reporting rules, that Death Certs are supposed to make only statements of fact. However, the CDC is indeed free to rule any plausible symptom or situation as “likely” Covid, and the two would conflict if you went and researched them all one by one. The CDC is not a government agency and has no legal liability looming over them as a death certificate does. They are just a private agency that helps with disease control and can essentially do whatever they please, make up anything they want, and only have political consequences. Like WHO, they don’t even have monetary consequences as private individuals like Gates and Dorsey can fund them if the national governments get mad with their abysmal failure that helps kill thousands, as just happened last week. #AntiLogos. No cause and effect. No consequences.
Dr. D
Participant
“The idea that you can be completely negligent of your health and not sleeping enough, eating junk, being overweight and not exercising, but now choose to take the painstaking measures of wearing a mask to protect your health, not only shows you care about your health at a deep level but will also more than make up for years of absolute neglect.” Fact!Dr. D
ParticipantAh, it wouldn’t be March without 12 years of this:
“Assad’s Air Force Attacked Syrian Civilians with Sarin, Chlorine, says Watchdog” (from his basement in Scotland)
Yes! Assad chemical weapons Bingo. Always comes through in March. What are we, about 100 disproven cases now? But don’t worrry, we’re “Experts”. We’re the Media.
Dr. D
ParticipantSo…According to CDC own numbers, pneumonia has dropped off a cliff, 90° down. Along with heart attacks and some other numbers. I know people are sitting around a lot, but…really?
And apparently overall deaths, 3 weeks in March compared to long term average are down 10%. Now that DOES make sense with everyone sitting home.
And am I reading that every official model has been downgraded 90% from original estimates?
So are the states going to call off this assassination of the U.S. economy, that is to say, us yet? Not on your life. We don’t listen to no stupid charts and statistics! We don’t do no “evidence”! We’re Science™! “Panic! Now that’s Science you can believe in.”More fun? Iowa no take measures to stop Sharona. Exact same chart and curve as all the states who shut down their economies like Hitler:
https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?get_gallerynr=7920
http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=238858Ain’t that weird? But I am a coincidence theorist and that is not suspicious at all.
Now to cure this epidemic and the unprecedented economic fallout, the U.S. House of Representatives spent the week, creating bill H.R. 5717 to ban common rifles. Thanks. I knew you’d get right on our most pressing problem.
Also helpful, when criticized for believing China like a little child, being so slow to close travel, and probably STILL not recommending masks (haven’t checked), WHO answers “Don’t say bad things about us unless you want to see body bags.” Is that a threat? Because we-all were just discussing how it was exactly your policies that were CAUSING all the body bags. Allegedly.
Feeling on the ground is that, after being super helpful and cooperative (for us) in taking the immediate action needed, getting things in line, America is now starting to take stock of what’s going on and getting pretty annoyed. And with annoyance comes anger and skepticism. So you can’t keep social moods going, they have arcs, they wax and wane like markets, like cycles. People are saying, so…apparently we’re all going to be imprisoned for the rest of our lives, with no end date, no jobs, no nuttin’? Uh, no. (Which is what I said day one, but I’m sadly always WAY ahead of things)
So just as they talk infinite vaccine passports, 1,000 year-reich’s of lost rights, and bailouts for the wealthy while families get enough money for cat food, find Americans not in the mood. Which I think is the hope and plan. Let them get out there, talk in public and hang themselves. Nothing else will prove it to people, nothing else will end it.
For example: so if they can print $10 Trillion in a weekend for companies, just ‘cause, why the h— am I paying taxes? If money doesn’t matter, why don’t I get a $6T check ÷ 330M = $18,000 per person, $72,000 per household? If every company in the world is shut down, how the h— is the Dow up 20% at 24,000?
End of System. End of the Line. We are going to have a new system now.
“The Limits of Location Tracking in an Epidemic (ACLU)”
Hey, how about you NOT do this, because you’re morons who have screwed up every tech things you’ve ever touched, can’t even run Zoom, and NOT have a future more dystopian nightmare than “Brasil”? https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0088846/
Thanks. We won’t ask nicely again.
“Not testing grinds economies to a halt.”
Nah, you could just go out. Life is dangerous. You might die someday. All you get to choose is whether you die like a rat or a man.
“how little we still know about the virus.”
Yeah, 4 months later, with a Billion people involved, can you explain how that is possible? That don’t sound very scientific. Sounds like a whole posse of people are lying and jerking the numbers, because otherwise we would know many things with great assurity.
“New Projections Show Virus Spreading Twice as Fast as Expected (ZH)”
Good, so everybody has it already and death rates are still sub 0.004%. (14k / 330M) Why does everyone love fear and oppression so much? F- em.
“If you would have told anyone this on January 1…”
I would have said the financial system froze up and was being re-set, as was patently obvious with $700B/night bailouts since Sept 14th, 2019. That this had to happen was obvious since 1999, or indeed since 1971 and printed by the Economist in 1988. There has never been a Whiter Swan on planet earth, or not for 1,000 years.
“Americans Not Making Their Mortgage Payments Soar by 1064% In One Month (ZH)”
Nobody’s going to pay anybody, and therefore nobody is going to pay the banks. Dodge this. As must mathematically happen when you detach your currency from reality and will happen within 49 years of 1971.
“We cannot let this, we’ve never allowed any crisis from the civil war straight through to the pandemic of 17, all the way around, 16, we have never, never let our democracy sakes second fiddle, way they, we can both have a democracy and … correct the public health.” — Joe Robinette Biden
Dr. D
ParticipantYes, Billionaire Trump, who doesn’t make a salary, is going to get rich on HCQ. Rich, I tells ya!
He owns a mutual fund that owns a percent that makes a percent of HCQ, generic. Estimated that he owns as much a $2,000 invested! In a company that makes so close to zero on this generic that they don’t even break it out in their corporate numbers. Rich! He might make $2000 + $1!
Ah, NY Times, how low you’ve fallen. But you knew it was fake because an adult American said it on T.V.
At least since we fought tooth and nail up to now, seeds are at least LEGAL in the U.S., unlike U.K. or say Europe where, it’s literally illegal to SHARE them. By any means. Seed black market, even more punishable by death than heroin or say a trunkful of Fentanyl enough to kill every person in a small state. That’s okay. Not mad. But a 1,000 year-old heritage WHEAT seed? Now you’re in trouble Mr. Bean! Expect to be SWATTED you anti-social misfit. Next you’ll be drinking Amish MILK, I tells ya.
As usual, the people are smarter and ahead of them, with heritage seeds and chickens being the latest rage for over a decade. Unlike 1990, there are probably enough heritage seeds stashed to feed the world. …And a good thing too, since it will certainly come to that if Europe and China have anything to say about it.
Keep your iPhone, I’ll eat Brandywine Tomatoes. (most popular seed of most popular company, is yes, heritage open pollinated.)
https://www.burpee.com/vegetables/tomatoes/tomato-brandywine-pink-prod000974.htmlDr. D
Participant“More People Died of Suicide Last Week in Tennessee Than COVID-19”
Awesome. Keep it up, I’m sure we can make the death rate 10x the Wu Flu via the economy if we dig in and really try.
What did they have yesterday, 49 people unemployed per Covid CASE, not death? I’m sure it’s twice that now. Good job, Brownie! When everyone get stabbed from turning the U.S. into Argentina, I’m sure it’ll all be worth it.
Again, the economy is larger than the virus. It’s larger than the government, it’s larger than the banks. The economy, even the Dow, is US. We the people. Everyone.
Don’t know why I bother, but here’s more: http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=238849
“Of the people who have died in NY as of 9:30 AM on April 7th there were 2,407 with one of a list of classified serious, in fact often fatal diseases and 55 with no such disease. (740 are pending and will show up in future reports.) In other words if you have no such serious and in fact often fatal underlying condition you make up 2.29% of the deaths.
…This means that if you have no underlying serious and in fact often-fatal condition your risk of death from this virus if you get it is 0.0687% in New York.
For a risk of less than 0.0687% of death, quite possibly much less by a factor of two or more, if you are a healthy individual and get the virus, we have destroyed millions of jobs and placed 330,000,000 people under effective house arrest.”What is that, “the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few?” Or the “Trolley Experiment”, would you kill 1 man to save 99?
Okay, so right now we’re killing 99 to save 1.
But that was always the point. We need a reset, and we need a cover story. We got one, and it’s being used.
Not trying to be heartless, but killing a thousand to save one is illogical and impractical.
“All we see is countries inventing excuses to not test.”
Huh. Wonder why. Well U.K. at least all 30 million tests from China were fake. Now they have to pay for their toxic disposal. In the U.S. the pre-set tests from the WHO were all random. But other than that, who benefits when there’s 100% fear and 0% testing (except for celebrities)? People who want Stalinist dictatorial control, high profits, fear, good ratings, vaccine passports, mass death. You know, everyone who’s anyone. The schmarty-guyz. The really important people.
For “Control the curve” the curve has not BEEN controlled, as predicted. However, we killed everyone trying, which was an awesome — and totally optional – benefit. And with the bailout, the 0.01% have $6T, and 99.99% are broke and will lose all their property. So. #Winning! All voluntary. Applause all around! Save me Daddy Government, you’re my only hope! You know, after lying in Wuhan, then Bejing, then WHO, then in Italy, Spain, New Orleans, SanFran, NYC, (Go to parades!) in CDC, and now in Fauci’s meetings. But other than all those guys doing everything they can to kill you and steal everything you own, Daddy’s really been helping! MOAR! I listen breathlessly. I’ll do everything you say.
“World-leading disease data analysts have projected”
Just yesterday we went through all the models being wrong. All the modelers being wrong. Fauci saying all the models are wrong. So we printed more models and believed them. Slow are we? O-Kay.
I look forward to bring this up later. Will anyone get fired? Nope. Discredited? Nope. Will anyone stop believing and following experts that have never been right in their whole careers? Nope. And their pockets will be picked and their reporters jailed.
” Boris Johnson’s Scientists Were Slow to Sound the Alarm (R.)”
Yup. Experts actually covered and prevented any action, like the WHO. People like Trump had to buck them, and are bucking them still. Not to say he was early enough, but he was as early as the media and nation would let him. Even so it was nothing but “It’s the Flu” and “Rayciss!” right through to NOW, four months later, when “Biden” finally approved of blocking Chinese flights.
ExpertsExpertsExpertsExpertsExpertsExpertsExpertsExpertsExpertsExpertsExperts
He can’t move faster than YOU. The government IS the people. They’re not going to be smarter or better than themselves. Much worse in fact, proven by 10,000 years of history. No one learns. No one cares.
“sharp contrast with the growing unease of many of the government’s scientific advisers”
Oh did they now? So they were uneasy at the same time the WHO said “there is no human transmission” and “Don’t wear masks?” (Wait, that was yesterday) They were uneasy when Oxford put out a study just last week saying most are already over it? Huh. Sounds like experts don’t agree, meaning at least half don’t know what they’re talking about. But makes a pretty fairy tale to sell papers that will throw elections the way the papers/reporters want. RussiaRussiaRussia. Brexit will destroy markets! And the Pound! And the planet! And the Universe! They’ll be hanging immigrants in the street! Making them scared to leave their houses, marking them with badges! (Oh wait, that was us via the Gates Foundation, n/m)
“victims without access to testing are not being counted,”
I don’t think so. The CDC guidelines are “If you know, it’s COVID. If you don’t know, it’s COVID. If it isn’t COVID, it’s COVID.” Look it up. Consequently all pneumonia deaths have vanished. Huh, that’s statistically odd. They’re pretty certainly being OVER counted. Right now you’re cramming a year’s worth of “Flu” deaths into a month, using just one flu…and that’s appropriate counting. But you’ll have to look back to see if any additional mortality over the year. My guess is not much, and you’ll have a baby boom that overcomes it in triplicate. Humans at work.
“I haven’t seen any genetic explanations for this.”
I haven’t even seen that this is true, since almost all reported numbers are bent, are lies. Guessing poverty and bad nutrition taking a toll, with people not containing at all.
Other indicators it’s a theatre show? They’re going to bury in public parks??? What possible scientific or practical reason could THAT be? Any normal human would use fridge trucks, or ship them up through the state to rural mortuaries, then ship them back for paced burial. But go ahead and use Grandma’s dead body as a prop in your stupid game. Apparently everybody loves it and approves.
“US death total is 12,901.”
Yes, and we have six times more people. And all the numbers are fake. Note Japan had zero cases until the Olympics were cancelled, then Lo! So Korea is probably reporting nothing they don’t have to, and the U.S. is demonstrably, via official CDC guidelines, reporting ANYTHING as Covid (as we have no testing). Oh and China has no deaths and no cases at all. Except from us.
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““Why would CDC be publishing anecdotes?”
Because we’re in a crisis and in a hurry, you dummy. But I’ll be happy to infect your family and watch you wait for that 10 year, double-blind, peer-reviewed study you demand. We’ve got 40 years’ experience with this drug. Several doctors claim to have 1,000 cases/pr Um, try THEIR 100% cure experience? Just sayin’. But I’ll sit here and watch if you want a respirator instead. It’s a free country.
“there was no reason to believe US agencies meant to harm his young family.”
Hahahahahahaha. You’re so cute. I mean, where would anybody get the RIDICULOUS notion that the U.S. was after Assange?
“Can’t we just drone this guy?” – Hillary Rodham Clinton
Dr. D
ParticipantNemo: have heard further research shows it attacks the blood, not the lungs. So in that it lowers hemoglobin oxygen it IS very similar to altitude sickness.
“headed to destinations all over the country to provide really important labor that supports the backbone of our economy,”
Not really. Just means they don’t have to raise wages for farm workers. That’s been the game for decades. “Americans won’t do it!” For $50/hr they’ll bloody do it. But then you’d have slightly higher food prices and slightly higher farm profits. Oh Noes! That wouldn’t be astronomical higher wages and profits for Wall St and Inside Traders! No new DNC voters! People in cities slightly fewer iPhones, and people in the country not dying by 30,000’s. Shut it down, Mr. Trump, Shut it down!
Cov [Fe] [Fe] Covid + Iron Iron. 2017. A message to someone, perhaps.
I prefer Co-Vid-19. That is, “Double Vision, 2019” We certainly have a lot of it. Co-existing realities, co-existing conflicting facts.
Dr. D
Participant“The UK government’s new testing chief has admitted that none of the 3.5 million antibody tests ordered from China are fit for widespread use.”
Ah, China, the WHOs golden boys. And what is this, the 4th, 5th time testing kits have “accidentally” not worked? Including those that were actively contaminated with COVID? Do we have this problem every other day of the year, causing accidental profits from accidental chemotherapy? Why not? No one can tell, no one can sue. Step Three: Profit!
“Spain To Extend Coronavirus Testing To People Without Symptoms (RT)”
So they’re going to test with some of the many test kits that don’t work? Very helpful.
“We don’t know the magnitude of the risk,”
You don’t know what the risks are after 40 years of use? You’re fired. And Fauci who won’t allow it.
Here’s also why you’re fired: HCQ is widely used for Lupus (etc) and so there are a million test cases nationally. Hey, have those guys, with a body of millions worldwide showing unusual resistance to contracting Wu? And yes, you know. You just don’t want to say, and I can pretty well guess why. Your whole plandemic will be over by Easter, and where have I heard that before, Jim Acosta?“Doctors Embrace Drug Touted By Trump Without Hard Evidence It Works (R.)”
Huh. Stack of evidence worldwide, now many thousands, including being recommended by China, the earliest and hardest hit. #AntiLogos. #AntiScience. Trust the experts. Except, don’t when it makes $$$ and political points.
“Trump, 3M Deal Allows N95 Face Masks To Be Exported To Canada (G.)”
Well ain’t that nice. After only 3 years of browbeating them, saying “you better, you better, you bet”, they suddenly see the light! Lo! Suddenly, jobs for Americans! Oh noes! Anything, anything but that!
“CDC Director Says Death Toll Will Be ‘Much Lower’ Than Projected (ABC)”
But…we all gonna die. ? But, need 100,000 ventilators, although 80% die anyway. ? But we shut down the worldwide economy, destroyed a billion people’s livings and a billion lives. For a thing that wasn’t dangerous? Like Herr Doctor said in January? Lower? Like 2,500% lower?
Speaking of, apparently we can finally say Wuhan’s biolab is the source, because WaPo says it’s possible now. Wait: in a few weeks they’ll say it’s definite. And it was a conspiracy theory, purged off Twitter, YouTube, purged Tom Cotton who (barely) suggested it, purged Martensen, a Duke epidemiologist, purged anyone not on the Panic: we gonna dieee!!! Train. And I knew this in January in my momma’s basement with cheeto dust on my underwear. Funny ol’ world. You’re fired.
“pitching far-reaching proposals, including the federal government directly financing businesses”
I’m sorry, didn’t we just pass this? And now the big banks are immediately double-crossing all businesses and Americans by refusing to pass on the loans? Cray-cray proposals, oops like the ones we just did. And impossible socialist dreams like “Medicare for All”. Except Trump is promoting that for Wu Flu. Hillary said, “the answer is obvious: open up the Obamacare exchanges” so people can bid on health care. Brilliant, Thanks! One thing: none of us have JOBS anymore, so paying for exchanges…like sitting across from a professional poker player who can see your cards…
But anyway, Trump has always been a business Democrat, and still is, so no surprise he would be on board. The only reason people think it’s strange is the 4 years of fake Orange Hitler from the media, starting a day after he was running, right after getting award from Black leaders and groups, hiring the first woman executive to build a skyscraper, and having a Jewish family while being married to an immigrant. But Facts! Who needs ‘em? A Democrat has Democratic policies? Like Kennedy? Whoda thunk?
“Wall Street Wins – Again (Nomi Prins)”
Maybe. Or they’re getting enough rope to hang themselves. This isn’t going to work. There’s going to be another every 30 days, exponentially larger until they reset.
“State Dep’t Refuses To Back Hillary Clinton Attempt To Avoid Deposition (JTN)”
I’m sure she’s happy to do it. She just said “No one is above the law.” You know, just before she dodged the subpoena.
“the organisation comprehensively rejected”
Well, if the organization says there’s no whistleblowers, that settles it for me! #Authority #Experts. When have they ever lied before? Except Every. Time.
Dr. D
ParticipantYes, thankfully, we so far are not into groupthink. However, it is Raul’s house. To not allow discussions to degenerate is the main thing, what other sites cannot do.
Dr. D
ParticipantDr. D
Participant“models “don’t tell you anything. You can’t really rely upon models.”
Says the Doctor. Every day. Denninger is following FL and TN, where numbers are 2,500% off. Every number is under 1/10th of any estimate. Huh. Never let a crisis go to waste. Even if you have to create it with a pack of lies and hysterical media.
However, you CAN kill everybody using the economy, and the now-discussed “Vaccine passports” where you have human rights based on … well who knows since their science isn’t worth a hoot.
“Ellen Andres jumped in her car and raced north on I-55 with a check for $3,469,600.”
If only they got things done every other day of the year for the past 30 years. Maybe we would have a ruined economy, bankrupted states, and empty warehouses with many multiples of 30k killed over the years, including more in Chicago each weekend than have died there from this. Nah.
“The coronavirus emergency is probably temporary. The bailout looks like forever.”
It won’t be forever. It won’t even be very long. It’s going to be reset.
“Dr. Zelenko Has Now Treated 699 Coronavirus Patients with 100% Success (TSU)”
Fauci is fighting this tooth and nail with his Gates handmaiden John Hopkins. He is determined to shut down the U.S. and be the last on earth to use HCQ even as all other nations use it and the evidence is now (in yesterday’s knockdown Cabinet fight) a foot high of science papers. #AntiScience. But naturally, as we already guessed he was #AntiLogos.
But we knew that already that because the media likes him, he would be a brother in their weird religion. I don’t actually have to watch the facts anymore, I just watch them.
Anyway, so why can this be turned off as soon as they’re done playing with free money and the National Guard?
Dr. D
ParticipantOn #AntiLogos, anything, ANYthing but morality:
“Parents with their children, home haircuts and no affairs: the virus has forced us to live in a weirdly moralistic way “
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/apr/01/parents-with-their-children-home-hair-cuts-and-no-affairs-the-virus-has-forced-us-to-live-in-a-weirdly-moralistic-wayLamenting people growing gardens, children safe at home with parents, being unable to have affairs and hook up on Tinder. Yes, we’ve reached the stone age. This obviously is a “Handmaid’s Tale” oppressive religious morality, not the utopia of far leftists like: Permaculturists. Hippies. Dear God, anything but that. Also she seems to think the mildest turn to morality will have us in caves by candlelight, a true acolyte of the monoreligion of Progress.
Aeon won’t let down their god. They’ll hold the banner:
“Is Marriage Over?”
https://aeon.co/essays/marriage-is-dead-long-live-marriage-how-will-we-couple-up?Only for Guardian reporters and Harvard professors like you. Weirdos. The rest of us live on the shoulders of 100,000 years of ancestors with things that work. So…now you’re unmarried, have no one, and Tinder and the Nightclubs are closed, and you have a delirious fever. Enjoy!
But St. Greta and the disciples should be happy. No industry, no carbon use, people dying everywhere. Now that IS a Utopia long discussed and desired. Oh wait, do people now see what we were saying about how it will kill everyone? Encourage a Green Totalitarianism of vaccine-passport tracking of neofeudalism and social oppression for 1,000 years? Like France protested for a year and China is protesting now?
“UN Blasted As “Absurd & Immoral” For Appointing China To Key UN Human Rights Panel”
Yes, “Experts”, “Authorities” U.N., giving the influence over human rights to countries with open concentration camps, slavery, organ trafficking, biowarfare, and genocide. They got their rotation after Saudi Arabia and Sudan. And just think: then America will get it! Wait ‘til they turn their genocidal, social-tracking repression cannons on us – nothing happens. Beat ya to it.
Back to your regularly scheduled Plandemic, I look forward to getting real numbers and reviewing Keen’s thesis after this is over. So, Keen, unlike theory, the real world is not infinite. A some point 300 million Americans will have had it. So…exponential function? And when we compare with 2019 all-in (health) mortality what will we see? Oh, probably Hong Kong flu levels, something, but a few thousand killed by flu and tens of thousands killed by the economy and subsequent war. #Helping! See you then!
(P.S. again, “flattening the curve” will barely help. You just take a hardship of 6 months and drag it out for 6 years, while erasing freedom and privacy from the earth. Perhaps there’s a third way?)
“Reporting Estimated Rather Than Confirmed Infections Might Save Lives (M.) “
Testing was a) proven false and b) according to Australia Sun, contaminated with covid itself (can you get it from the test?) But clearly SOMEBODY’S testing, since as of Friday, everybody suddenly had numbers about the exact hour of the peak. Care to stop lying and cough it up now? A: Never. The only enemy is the #Truth.
So given no testing AND false testing for what testing we have, this genius is going to “estimate” (guess) and thereby we’ll be better informed. He will be welcome at the BLS and Federal Reserve Statistics Department.
“Mainland China reported 30 new coronavirus cases”Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
And it gets better: they say it’s our fault!
“China Floods Europe With Defective Medical Equipment (Kern)”
Yeah. They so funny. And probably the source of the testing feedstock that “accidentally” was contaminated with the virus they started we were trying to fight. Oopsie! AND some doctors died. AND they threatened to obey or they’d cut us off medically, AND they delayed the truth to pilfer a few million masks we need, AND are crowing about how it will genocide Japan, AND… But they’re good old folks. Best ever. Ask the WHO!
“The end of the health care for profit model, “
I don’t know how to address this. Until the government gets out of this monopoly with guaranteed profits for no risk, we can’t find and end to the profit model. For centuries hospitals were non-profit, until government “helped” in 1994 and ran them all out of existence, forcing the profit-only model on America with a public-private monopoly. So you’re saying the government is going to stop itself?
“The FBI and DOJ made up this ‘case,’ threatened to indict his son the next day if he did not plead guilty, hid–and are still hiding–the evidence that shows he is innocent, and they knew that all along..”
Prettymuch par for the course for the FBI, average day’s work. That’s why they were formed and why J. Edgar started it: to blackmail and arrest dissenting power-people. Working as designed. But you think we should trust them because they’re an Authority™. “My Authority, right or wrong.”
Apparently the same in England, with Royal families, Jimmy Saville, P.M. Heath, and everybody else.
Dr. D
ParticipantHow on earth are they estimating peak dates with no testing? That’s not facts. This, plus everything else, since October, you’re being played.
“ This Crisis Is A Turning Point In History (John Gray) “
Gray is talking about re-localizing, something The Automatic Earth has been saying is inevitable for more than 10 years. Therefore, when it arrives, it’s not due to virus, but to systems analysis.
Pleasant that he doesn’t attack his home country for a change. I thought if you didn’t do that, they’d take your passport and expel you. He didn’t instantly surrender Britain to anyone who asks, so he won’t be asked to any dinner parties. The important people always hate their country, betray and surrender it, and are very, very proud.
“ Russian Ventilators Sent To US Made By Firm Under US Sanctions (R.) “
They just make up laws in their heads, then follow or don’t follow whatever laws they feel like. Like every other day. D—n, It’s good to be a gangsta’
“ US Snatches Masks From Germany In Act Of ‘Modern Piracy’ – Berlin (RT) “
Nice to report that, but France just did this, and most especially China denied all existence of Wu while buying up millions worldwide, sapping 3M and Australia, and then sending non-masks certain to kill doctors…possibly even the masks argued about in this article. But what was “invoke the powers act” going to be BUT this? And do we really say, “yeah, we’re just going to let all Americans die because Germany, claiming to be far safer, far less hit, would like to save an additional person.”
Not saying this is the solution, just those are the moving parts. Are nations supposed to HURT their own and save everybody BUT their citizens? According to all government over the last 20 years, yes. The only people who are to be sacrificed are Americans, everyone BUT all 7 Billion, 660 Million foreigners are to be actively murdered. Oh, that’s us. Or at least us outside NYC, as Cuomo is demonstrating. But is that a rational and normal thing? Of course not. Nations are supposed to prefer their own citizens and help everyone else as much as they’re able. This from a country that demanded we go to Wuhan and shut down the virus, and have jurisdiction over their animal markets. We’re Team America: World Police, right?
“US AG Barr Orders Release Of More Federal Inmates (R.) “
NY just released 8 sex offenders, 3 “likely to re-offend” and put them up in a nice hotel, at taxpayer expense, right next to a school. In a society with no jobs and everyone wearing masks. The only good part about letting them out is the schools are closed and kids are home. But sure, please release all the predators and rapists you have and keep drug offenders in. Oh then if you stay alone all day on a paddleboat or in a park 40′ from anyone, arrest them. If you’re on a packed subway train for no reason, that’s fine. #Cuomo!
“Ankle Monitors Ordered For Kentucky Residents Refusing Quarantine (Hill) “
This is the problem with Martensen’s plan: ain’t nobody going to follow it. He’s a smart guy raised by smart guys in school with smart well-behaved guys. However, Jimmy-Bob in Western Kentucky has the mind of a junior-high student (somebody has to be on that bell curve), his family is hardly better, and he doesn’t give a f—. About anything, ever, which is why you see them on “Cops” getting pulled over with a bottle, a 10# bag of pills, and their kids in the back. Like other children, they literally incapable of following strict directions, which is no slight to them personally. However, there are a lot of them, and may-fold more of them than policemen, judges, even if you ran the ankle-bracelet factory day and night, besides which they’d cut it off with pliers, because, as said, they don’t give a f—. Jail means nothing to them because they can’t think that far. Good luck with your “laws” and “rules” suckers. They don’t apply to the insiders, and they don’t apply to Jimmy-Bob, only to people like me who weren’t doing anything wrong in the first place. But we have an answer: more laws.
“Trump Firing Inspector General Who Flagged Whistleblower Complaint (NBC) “
Was that the guy who changed all the rules and paperwork to make it “legal”? Like I said, rules don’t apply, only to you and me. He’ll be collecting 5-figure pension and a 6-figure Gofundme for good work. Wrongdoing? I think we did the full investigation they suggested and didn’t find it. Many times. In fact, continuously. However, Schiff promises this time, this time, he’s investigating again. What Ukraine, what finger-rape by 2020 candidates? Believe the man, believe the accused, not the victim.
“Translator Exonerated Don Jr. In Trump Tower Meeting (Solomon) “
Once again, wildly illegal and unconstitutional, no one cares. Trump is still guilty, RussiaRussiaRussia. We’ll get that rascally road runner some day.
“Monsanto Predicted Crop System Would Damage US Farms (G.) “
Sure, but the FDA finally doing their job: outlawed wildly used Zantac as a cancer risk. Known for a while, so who was holding on this? Why not noticed in paid studies by experts, colleges, and pharmaceutical companies, drug been nationwide for decades? Need I ask? Monsanto no different: pay everything, buy off regulators, colleges and experts can’t betray their countries and own children fast enough. No men to be found. Never question. Always surrender.
Dr. D
ParticipantYes, Moto, a pleasant change. You probably already captured this, but the problems was: it’s not going to be stopped. And therefore, exactly as you say, all attempts to quarantine and stop it are indeed optics. Only. What annoys me is that for the purpose of optics only they will take a virus that can’t effectively be stopped, and increase the deaths 10-fold by shutting down the economy. But in good political fashion, if you die of robbery, it doesn’t count, whereas if you die of Wu, it’s the world’s biggest tragedy.
I mean, the Humanity, the Humanity! Did you see Chris Cuomo had a FEVER? Why, I say! Shut it all down! Shut it all down!
Denninger is following this extensively, but I figure what’s the point of repeating?
http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=238797
http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=238790
http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=238786 (among dozens)The only way to stop is to stop ALL people, EVERYWHERE, for over 40 days, which implies either level 4 medical conditions and 100% medical quarantines, including the janitors, or to not have any medical care at all.
If you fail anywhere, at any time, Wu will immediately re-appear and continue where it left off. We don’t have a lot of worry for respirators since they don’t help a great deal anyway.
Doing any of this will shut down the U.S. economy, the world, cause 10 or 100x more deaths, and perhaps make nations desperate enough to ram navy vessels into cruise ships in an attempt at open piracy. So that’s not lacking empathy, that’s following science and math like an adult. But sure, make sure 90% of the people who subsequently die are unnecessary, from optics and your need to “do something.”
That said, they are pathological in refusing to show us deaths vs ADDITIONAL deaths. Is anyone dying? At all? Probably, but you wouldn’t know it over the drama and reporting these guys have, in order to make political hay, get the big $$$, and turn the planet into an eternal Stalinist nightmare. As long described in the white papers of the self-same people.
Martensen is not correct on this, starting as he does from a doctor’s perspective and training. His theories WOULD be great, it WOULD be nice, but I don’t think they intersect that much with the real world.
For carriers, same. First, as I said, it’s a gift that 98% of your crew are certain to live. Second, you don’t send a letter, “Hey China! Yoohoo! Over here. Disabled ship ripe for the shooting! Sailing in circles like and injured fish!” If you want to start a world war, that’s a great start. Yes, indicating to the enemy your force of readiness IS a removable offense.
Dr. D
ParticipantNo medical system without an economy:
“Unprecedented unemployment could bring Medicaid to the brink. “This is a quick enough shock that it could be a huge financial burden on Medicaid systems across the states.”
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/record-number-unemployed-americans-will-stress-state-medicaid-programs-n1175491I wouldn’t worry about it. We’re already gone, as planned. I told you they hit the detonator back in Sept 14th, a month before the earliest case.
Dr. D
Participant“German health-care system and hospital system has been modernized by the Social Democrats and Christian Democrats over the last 20 years”
Suuuuure, pal…at the expense of Greece, Italy, and Portugal. Ain’t those Germans smart and far-thinking with extracted colonial money? Why is Lombardy not so smart?
Also how did testing help? You have it. Great! We know. And we have no cure and nothing for you to do. Somehow knowing helps you breathe better? Reduces your age and underlying conditions?
“Fed’s Dilemma: Picking Winners for $4 Trillion in Credit (R.)”
Who’s the winner? Us, because this is going to take the system down. The $6T they leveraged 10:1 won’t last 30 days. You want Socialism? So the system is going to replace every Jimmy-Bob paying every Sally in every transaction? Yeah, that’s Quadrillions, right off. You’ll find out in seconds how tiny the Fed and the Government are in relation to us, the market. But no one will learn except to see it for themselves. Back for a larger bailout in 30 days. And larger. Forever. Things that can’t go on, won’t. It’s a reset.
“The Fed will be dragged to the ground by the zombies it’s carrying.”
Yes, and that’s the point.
“US Crude Futures Trim Record Gain (R.)”
Who won? Chaos. The volatility is going to explode all leveraged trades (CME, Commodities) and every derivative. Those won’t close and be seen for 30 days, and then, as with Greece, will be denied, re-defined, and covered up. But with what? More printed money? Good, that’s what ends it.
“Cuomo, over the past decade, agreed to close and consolidate numerous public hospitals, [20,000 in the past 20 years] mostly serving the poor, to
save money.”Hand out more to the Manhattan rich.Saving me the trouble of going over this. “Jacobin” monkey-hammered Andy on this, roadkill. Since they cover slavishly, breathlessly, I had no idea it was so bad.
“Google has billions of users, has shared location data with non-governmental researchers”
Don’t take your phone. Never needed it before now.“Leaked Amazon Memo Details Plan to Smear Fired Warehouse Organizer (Vice)”
Ah, this is why the government helps by giving them taxpayer money to kill workers with Pinkerton cops and WaPo articles.
Dr. D
ParticipantI’m sorry, where is the Federal legal mandate to control medicine and the economy? I don’t seem to find it in the documents or the Amendments. So now when they don’t do what they don’t have mandate for, they’re not doing what they are required to do, which is not to do it.
Don’t know why I bother. It’s not their job. It’s YOUR job. Clearly you misunderstand what the nation was about. You ain’t no baby. They ain’t your daddy. It’s up to you and the nation can’t be better than the aggregate of the people.
“they all chose to ignore the WHO warning”
They did not. The WHO did not issue a warning. They also still today are defending China and are not recommending masks. Because at every step they have been anti-science and are anti-science still. Our administration stood out ahead and bucked the WHO, the CDC, and everyone on earth by stopping flights AGAINST the lack of warning that still persists today. But you’re right that all organizations exist to pass the buck and prevent blame from responding to the status quo.
The managers are decisively NOT better at reaction than preparation, already proven. They will grab power and kill multiples people than if they’d done nothing, like the tin pot Hitlers they’ve been since before I was born. There was never a time or event I can remember this did not happen, and it won’t happen now either.
I would say luckily that statistically it’s not dangerous, but when these guys are running it, it IS dangerous. Not that anyone will die, since the death rate is very low, we have at least two cures, and if you get a ventilator you won’t live anyway, but because they will turn the planet into a Stalinist nightmare that will kill 100 million a year for all eternity, while you demand it and cheer it on. So if you want a new Assange every hour for 1,000 years, go ahead.
In the meantime, they can kill 10-50x more people economically, with the shutdown, but so long as they’re starved and stabbed instead of dying on vents that don’t help them, it’s all great!
Yes, absolutely the Roosevelt should abandon their post for a disease that has a 98% survival rate. Soldiers are never in danger or killed, and there’s always something new to surrender.
Why bother? If you don’t know where the real danger is by now, nothing will help you.
Dr. D
ParticipantA jubilee, however, we don’t yet know for whom. They would have it run as a bailout. But that bailout will be the world’s biggest trap if the currency swaps and the Fed, who will have all assets owned by November, will be taken over by the Treasury, and therefore the American people, to be distributed back to the nation at will.
“The question is,” said Humpty Dumpty, “which is to be master – – that’s all.”
Guess: the one with the Army: the Marine generals and their handpicked bankruptcy expert.
We won’t know, but I don’t care either. I have no action items listed for the meantime.
Dr. D
ParticipantWish I could remember the article on this point, of experts shouting Panic, melting world, all sorts of laymen nonsense, and then flipping back to ordered, measured science when it’s time to publish. Archdruid, I think. The problem is — and exactly as intended — laymen don’t read dry papers and believe their public opinion to be be their scientific one. Which would be strafed with anti-aircraft cannons and lit on fire among scientific review when it hit the ground. But the POINT is to be political, to exaggerate to inspire action, exactly as laymen do. Are they not allowed to be political? To encourage environmentalism like the rest of us?
This is achingly common to have a public, loose, essentially fake line for easy consumption, and an accurate, difficult, detailed, relatively true professional one. But to me it’s easy: it’s still a lie. You know better than anyone. And have responsibilities therein.
Dr. D
ParticipantDenninger:
“even assuming that there are no ventilators available (e.g. we just “let it run”) current statistics are that a ventilator fails 85-90% of the time in the US — they failed 95% of the time in Wuhan.
Failed, I remind you, means the person in question is dead.
The premise that somehow “flattening the curve” means the total number of people will get this virus will be smaller is a lie.
There are exactly three ways that happens: 1) The virus is hard enough to get and easy enough to identify before contagion, which is what happened with SARS and made it possible to contain it; 2) There is a vaccine and thus we can use that to obtain herd immunity to suppress the effective R0 below 1.0 or; 3) Enough people get the virus that R0 is suppressed via natural herd immunity.
That’s it.
If you suppress a virus with these measures you do not change this fact. You only change timing, and in addition you take all the economic and social damage from those mitigation measures. You do not change the total number of infections and, where medical interventions in the most-severe cases are ineffective 85-90% of the time, you also don’t change outcomes either.”
http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=238752Everybody is going to get it.
Without an economy, there is no medicine, nor any need.
WE are the Dow.
1971 + 49 = 2020Dr. D
ParticipantThe numbers from China are fake, some outlets refuse to post them. Every other nation has unique reporting structures, whether higher, lower, or indifferent – and this is beyond the lack of testing all over.
However, I’ve been hearing new U.S. rules to declare any respiratory death as a COVID death primary, and “emphysema” or such secondary. This will quickly and wildly inflate the numbers, as we’ve seen. Doctors may not participate, but the come in the next day and see that their report has been altered by administration. Who checks? Who has time?
This is in addition to more provable media which is printing stories saying “local woman dies of COVID” when no one has called the family and they died of Alzheimer’s, long coming. A number of those incidents, uncaring, unretracted, total lies. And why? Well we know the media calls nobody and are pathological liars and drama-inventors from birth, but this seems beyond even their everyday.
So…somebody know what’s going on?
Dr. D
ParticipantSo many doctors, so little time. Doc is correct: the “Flu” numbers are also completely ginned and suspect. Basically, the hospital, the death certificate problem is: you die of something. But when you’re 83 with Alzheimer’s and an enlarged heart, on ten years of oxygen, where the medication is encouraging renal failure, and he’s on his 12th round of antibiotics for bedsores, what does he “die” of? Ultimately, as his health gets weaker, most of the time the lungs become less able, and when less able expel, an infection settles in the lungs and ultimately cannot be defeated. So that guy dies of “pneumonia”, “influenza”, even though, for us common folks, it would really be old age. Medically “old age” is not a thing. But Alzheimer’s doesn’t have a killing blow, only a sapping one, so the final straw gets the camel credit.
But does that also mean he DIDN’T die of flu? Not really. For our present purposes, and especially with most (not all) people affected over 50, and similarly having underlying health issues, the “flu” they cite is sort of a “death baseline”, and comparable in many ways. I wouldn’t open this can because the numbers and concepts will go nuts, right out into the woods, but there it is.
If the other Doctors would like to weigh in and whether this is a plausible, arguable point and position.
“Not every mainstream medical professional is trying to lie about the flu.”
They quite definitively are NOT. However, if they weren’t followers they’d have been tossed in the first semester, and later with 40 patients a day, have no time for normal (fake, paid-for) research, much less taking up a sideline in nutrition, TCM, or debunking the NEJM on weekends which I’m sure would make many friends. That’s a problem, since if you capture the nit-witted WHO and the dim-witted CDC (as seen in just four weeks of them speaking in public) the very smart doctors WILL simply follow. They’ll follow or bloody well be fired on the spot like anyone else who questions medicine. So they’re not lying, exactly, anymore than the normal people who watch CNN and PBS are lying. They’re just trusting someone else to do their job, despite probably having realized those people are quite perpetually caught NOT doing their job.
It’s actually order of magnitude better than jack-booting them. They mean well, and what’s more, because of it, you can’t attack or expel them, You can only coax them in tiny steps which would take more than a lifetime, and the sociopaths who ran the top-capture know it. That’s why they did it. They don’t like hard work and exposure either. But they do like money and dead people, and we’ve got quite a pile of both now, and more on the way.
The only cure, if this is the cause, is not to add MORE authority, with MORE power, in MORE concentration that can be captured. It’s LESS.
Less authority, more opinions, less work, more time to examine, less power, more individual local solutions. That means you will have silly ideas in places that harm people, but it’s nothing compared to demanding enormous, obviously wrong ones, by a few self-interested men that everyone enacts and cannot question or repair. It’s the same as systems everywhere: you stamp out forest fires and insure a unstoppable, raging inferno. Were a couple of local disagreements really that bad?
Dr. D
ParticipantCorona already saving thousands of lives. And that’s ahead of the baby boom:
https://www.scribd.com/document/453827594/COVID-19-UnintendedConsequences
+ about 9,000. Panic!The WHO says “don’t wear face masks.”

https://s3-ap-northeast-1.amazonaws.com/news.guo.offload.media/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/29224811/Screen-Shot-2020-03-29-at-9.44.22-PM.pngYes, that would be the same WHO that says 3k died in China, there was no human transmission, don’t stop those planes, and changes their minds every hour.
Science™! We’re Science-based. In that we use the word “Science” to get you to obey illogical, self-defeating rules, and give us Step 3: Profit!
I blame Trump. Why didn’t he follow up on that SARS cure in 2004 or deplete and not re-stock the facemasks in 2014? Why didn’t he build a wall and bring back industry from China? Why didn’t he stop the planes in January? If only he’d SAID SOMETHING, all this could have been avoided.
“the current coronavirus “is 10 times more lethal than the seasonal flu,” which would be about 1 percent.”
That’s because thanks to Science™!, the seasonal flu is far LESS deadly than 0.1%, as you can prove in 60 seconds. But nobody does because they’re not science, but fishing for money, bureaucratic or socialized systems most of all. So is Wu Flu 10x as deadly? Probably, but 10 x 0.004% isn’t much. So as usual, we have the “Official” “Expert” reality, and the real reality, and they don’t add up because experts become experts once they lie for a living. If they told the truth anywhere, from Boeing to Kaiser, they’d get fired in days. Land of the Lost. Who’s going to save you from your own grift and deceit? You are. By returning to the Straight and Narrow.
“Healthcare providers facing medical equipment shortages”
As stated yesterday and everywhere, you can’t even make masks. It’s literally illegal without 6-fold permission, a few million dollars, and a 6- year lead time. That’s by law, put in by 3M, yes, but impossible to enforce unless the GOVERNMENT joins with CORPORATIONS, in the direct antithesis of Capitalism. And what do we call that system, Mr. Benito? But there’s a solution: MORE SOCIALISM. More rules, more obstacles, more monopoly profits. To them, away from you. We demand MOAR!
In other news, Australia reports China bought up several million masks and suits back in January while they were telling us and the WHO that there was no human transmission, and the WHO were apparently in their hotel rooms with Chinese girls, not looking. But I can’t blame it all on them, even though they just shipped non-working N95 masks to us just for amusement of watching Spanish doctors get sick and die. No, in addition to this, deBlasio and Pelosi were advising people to attend parades, and Cuomo cut 20,000 beds in NY and is even now trying to cut $9B out of NYS Medicare. This is the government you say will save you.
Anyway, we’d already have 50 small factories producing masks somewhere if it weren’t illegal, imprisonable at the highest level to do so. So: enjoy the world you demanded!
“US COVID19 Job Losses Could Be 47 Million, Unemployment May Hit 32% (CNBC)”
This is already over 32%, but in reality we’re doing an economic reset, not a virus, so…
“Trump was way off.”
But less way off than Science™!, which he bucked the Executive, the CDC, the WHO, and everyone in media when he still acted long before them. Suddenly, now that was too slow, for the same people who said it was way too fast. Make up your minds. But they do: reality is whatever I say it is 2 seconds ago, and changes 2 seconds from now. Double-Plus-Good Doublethink. A minute from now, when he DID shut things down, and they catch on that it’s 0.1% and destroyed the economy, they will flip again and say it SHOULDN’T be shut down, even as in Feb 1 they were denying it existed, and March 1 were demanding martial law, and we read these same people as our sources of authoritative information.
And you’re supposed to rule these people? They can’t rule themselves. They’re like a bunch of toddlers running around on the football pitch, making self-goals half the time while parents cheer. It’s amusing to watch, but I wouldn’t pay for it. I’m an adult who has useful, practical things to do.
“Pelosi Aims To Move Fast On Next Rescue Package (Pol.)”
Case in point, Exhibit A, after stopping worker checks for weeks, then taking a 5-page bill and making it 1,400. And NOW she’s going to move fast, now TRUMP has been slow and irresponsible. I missed rent. Thanks. But this is Socialism™, I’ll go take one of your 10 houses. “To each according to his need” and I NEED a nice new beach house!
“Rachel Maddow’s Recent Predictions Get Roasted (JTN)”
It will never matter. There is no level of lies or wrong that can possibly have consequences. Look at Brian Williams, the CDC, the WHO…
I think it’s great. I just read them and do the opposite and can be right 95% of the time.
““precious months” were wasted waiting for federal action.”
Says the guy who they would impeach for having borders and objected to shutting down unlimited air travel. So…if he knew all about, Mr. Governor obviously bought a million masks for his State back in January, right? What, no? He was busy cutting hospitals while more people died in Chicago each year than have yet died in COVID? Well give me a banana and call me a monkey. So. Weird. It’s almost like they’re lying, and if I did the opposite, I’d be right 95% of the time without any work.
But the article is well-said. The States are supposed to be sovereign, and most action and responsibility are legally there. Little to none is supposed to rest with the Federales. That’s why health care could be state level (and bankrupted every state that tried) and not Federal, by law, because they have no legal mandate or authority over it, nor can they get any without an amendment. But reason, law: so Archaic! #Logos is our sole sworn enemy, making things up out of our minds and egos is our god.
“ How Will COVID-19 Impact US Manufacturing?”
Let’s look at the other side: we have no manufacturing, sales, or business. The Dow remains pleasantly high, with a rocketing nosebleed P/E ratio (No earnings). That is, we have NO MARKET. We have NO CAPITALISM. We have…no one who cares, or can diagnose that maybe this Socialism thing has failed just like everywhere else in time and space it’s been tried.
“Cruise companies lining up for bailouts.”
This would be less egregious if they hadn’t already dodged all taxes before now. …Hey, like GE, Amazon, Boeing…? Yeah, I pay more taxes than GE. So shouldn’t I get their size bailout check? Funny ol’ world.
“The EU will have to throw out Hungary.”
The EU hasn’t followed any law or rule since before they were born. Look at the 2% debt-cap for entrance. Why start now? Then they couldn’t be a lawless dictatorship that sucks money from the poor in Greece to rich banks in Germany while erasing free speech and dictating who’s allowed to be PM in Italy.
“The cable news announced the other day that Covid-19 patients placed in critical care may have to be on ventilators for 21 days.”
If you’re in ICU you won’t survive anyway. Recovery rates for that kind of term ventilator 1 year are something like 5% even for normal times. Mortality is 30% normally. But someone is worried about resource triage? That everybody might not get infinity plus? That we won’t spend 45 minutes on resuscitation for someone whose lungs stopped when +90% of the time doesn’t work on heart patients and people with ‘normal’ coding? Yeah, we don’t do that on every other day either, it’s literally no different than last Tuesday. Or only by a tiny percent. It’s just when non-medical people read about it, they throw a gear. Because they will die, and if they’re lucky, they will die in a hospital.
Anyway, life is limited. There is not infinite anything for nothing, and you’re going to die because that’s what “life” is. Try to do it like a man.
“…the Netherlands will “no longer be a rich country in the North if the South falls.”
I’ve said this for years. Their “Asset” in Germany and yes, Netherlands, is the “Debt” of a number of countries who will never pay. That is to say, it’s a fraud, an illusion. So why bother? Does it make you feel better to live on lies an illusion? “The System where everybody lives at everybody else’s expense.”
Dr. D
ParticipantI’m missing the problem here. This is what I’ve been saying: the numbers are far, far lower.
However, given large numbers like 300M or 8B, a small percentage is still very large. Also everybody is going to get it. Unless they want to hide underground for 4-5 years and come up when it’s truly gone, without even pockets. No one is going to do that, and there wouldn’t be a society to come back to if they did, so everybody’s going to get it. That also says we won’t stop it, and indeed shouldn’t, although if it doesn’t cost more lives than not or turn us into a prison state, slowing it down makes some sense.
I still think the numbers are yet far lower, just as the flu is some 0.004% or something – it’s only “0.1%” against people in hospitals who bother to get tested, but even so, we’d have +50,000 pretty easily. But we do anyway. It’s just that instead of the flu taking them out, it’s the flu taking them out. That is, instead of H, N, B, C, and D-Virus, it’s all C-Virus. Mostly.
50,000 is one small city. It’s 1,000 people per state, it’s 17 people per county. One person per 76 square miles. You wouldn’t notice: only the families will. And you won’t see large numbers, only in large cities, because they have a larger denominator. 0.1% in Muncie, Indiana is 3 people. 0.1% in Metro NY is 2.1 million people. Same math. Same risk. Same death. About the same number of hospitals per person, probably more and far better equipped. But 10,000x more media coverage.
In any case, if we have 1/4 the metro infected, and there are only 1,000 dead, the death rate is then 0.01%.
If they were anywhere near correct, we’d already have 10-100,000 dead like we used to during real epidemics. But wait for the release of widespread antibody tests and curative treatments if you want. Nobody likes dying, there’s no best way to go. But keep your head and don’t run around emotionally and surrender all your rights. It won’t save you, but the authoritarian state you demand will murder your children, so you can cower in your bare apartment in your old age watching them get Assanged. Let’s not.
Dr. D
ParticipantGlad I’m not the only one wasting air on the Top 50 Amazing Coincidences of My Sherona.
Hey, did you know far from gutting the CDC, Cheeto hired a bunch of quarantine experts back in November? Yeah, just a few months before signing the “Right to Try” bill that allows people to take experimental Chloroquine, but BEFORE Gates’ pandemic war game that had a deadly coronvirus in Italy. You could write a book, and we haven’t even dug into the white papers yet.
P.S. you schmarty-pantz shut-it-down thinkers now have food riots in Italy. Dodge this. There is no health care without an underlying economy, and no need for health care if you get stabbed because no one has food. Live brave, not weak. You are a child of men who survived a thousand times this, a thousand times in history.
Dr. D
ParticipantThey’re right, by what I can tell, “locking down” people without specific adjudication is illegal, and it should be. The next Rumsfeld will then call a light breeze a “National emergency” and invoke those same powers against a) you b) the other party c) people who bug him most, and eventually d) everybody. That is, if this guy doesn’t do it first, while everybody cheers, primarily leftists. Good to know when Orange Hitler is around, the “Resistance” will surrender instantly and beg to obey. “Mr. Trump, shut this country down!!!”
However, they claim sweeping quarantine rights and every other emergency right , including complete confiscation of all your property, and conscription to anything they feel like, including breaking rocks in a uranium mine as a unpaid slave. Or even unpaid prostitute, probably, it’s legal in some states. No joke. On the books.
In reality, we use a safety valve where the government claims these powers and enforces them, the people mostly comply, and the cases wend their way through the courts where in a year or ten it will be declared illegal and unconstitutional again. Until they do it again without asking.
That’s pretty important though. So let me get this straight: we lost 500,000 men to defend freedom when the nation was less than half this size, or what would be 1 million men today, but you won’t defend freedom with even one death today? Congratulations, you’re a slave. No matter what the government says, you will do it. And this while China may be going the other way, toward freedom, by waving OUR flag, and laying their bodies down on a bridge in Wuhan.
You don’t have to be reckless, but you don’t have to beg for eternal tyranny to save one port town that was about to fall into the sea, either. There are places in between. Perhaps not being American, it’s hard to understand. I expect from birth that there will be cost associated, that’s what turns “freedom” (i.e anarchy) into “liberty” (i.e forbearance and responsibility). Government isn’t going to do that; governments most probably paid to have this thing created, released it accidentally on purpose, covered it up until a few million cell phones went missing, then dragged their feet for 2-odd months, told people to attend the NYC parade while St. Andrew (Cuomo) approved, then argued largely about the name not the response, and are right now attempting to outlaw a cure in France, Nevada, and Michigan. But we need this government somehow, the one who caused it and is struggling valiantly NOT to cure it. They are our lovers, our helpers, our masters? If not this, what will it take for that to seem illogical? The murderer that caused it is NOT the guy to turn to for help.
Well, it’s going to go this way, but as an epidemic people will die, because that’s what an epidemic is. So should we have 100,000 die by providing what guidance and cure they can, then return to normal, or should we have 50,000 die and live in a Stalinist dystopia for the next 100 years, having abandoned all our principles for a little safety? Because if you do, they will be eager to have it, and you’ll instead kill 100 Million over those upcoming years of constant fear, injustice, and privation, for today’s senseless fear and lack of valor. For all men die, be it sooner or later, but not all men die FOR something. If you abandon all freedoms and the republic, you will have died for nothing. And so will have your father, in WWII, and his father, in WWI, and your ancestors in Runnymede. Make their lives and Western values mean something, and don’t surrender to Chinese (lack of) values so eagerly. It was a lot of their values that got us into this. Reject them and choose freedom and life instead.
It’s beyond my imagination how people can behave this way, they’re not shelling my town, they haven’t even cut off Netflix for God’s sake. Be a man.
You. Will. Die. Say it over and over again until you realize it. You almost certainly won’t die of the virus, but dodging it won’t save you one little bit either. So you might as well live brave and do right, as your fathers before. If they hadn’t, you wouldn’t have the luxury of fearing comfortably now.
Dr. D
ParticipantWow, Fauci has now come into line with Herr Docktor precisely, with 10x more than regular flu, but still under 1%. Seasonal flu probably doesn’t actually have a 0.1% fatality, as literally no one gets tested. It’s 0.1% among those who WERE tested, in a hospital. Since virtually everyone gets the flu each year, it would be more like 0.005% (15k vs 300M)
Since they were both the same scientists (Fauci) with the same experts each time, why would we believe the more panic conclusion instead of the less panic one? Just ‘cause? We have more data now than Jan 1st not, less, but now we’re more stupid and wrong? It’s always time to panic and surrender. Your rights. Your cash. Your family.
So I’m going to record all the names and all the articles for later. Will experts ever be discredited? A: Never. No matter how many thousand years or how many millions dead. We have 1,000 years of history supporting that. Google “Eugenics”
So Taleb’s model is garbage. All his base assumptions are wrong, as is usual with these things. First, Jan 25 is 60 days after the presumed origin, and 100fold more than 2k people already had it, 30k had probably already been killed, and those people had already flown worldwide for New Year’s. He also hadn’t the faintest idea who those people were. Third, the WHO and YOU both said “Don’t you shut those flights down, you racist pig!”
Even so, “shutting down travel” is equivalent to “shutting down the worldwide economy” on which the entire medical system depends for supplies, and will kill multiple thousands more than the flu. In addition, given 40 day hibernation and reinfection, with no antibodies, this would mean shutting down the planet for 40 x 3-odd cycles, or six months, plus re-shutting it every few months forever. That’s not my science, it’s theirs. So: good with shutting down all food, shoes, truck and tractor parts for half a year under a rolling unending totalitarian regime? Ah, Stalinism re-enacted, Socialism at its finest! As requested by schmarty-schmart “experts” worldwide. To save us from…? Sure hiding in your house is super-smart from one narrow perspective, but not for anyone who can see a fraction of the whole picture. It takes a second to see you’ll kill a hundredfold people of the virus by shutting the worldwide economic system and moving it to command-and-control by insiders, virtually forever.
So anyway, China now has no new infections, but is being infected from foreigners. Who do not infect people because there are no infections. Gotcha. WHO and CDC cheer and support this implicitly with all their expert might. CNN reports this without comment and the people believe it without question.
Yes, they didn’t test because they need a crisis to do what they’re doing. But what is it they ARE doing? Resetting the financial system while paying YOU, as the Fed is rolled into the Treasury, and markets are levitated, while businesses still exist for a while. Or not. You can fret that some money was mishandled right now, but there may be bigger things afoot, maybe?
“ 3-18 months in prison..”
So if you’re probably infected, we’re going to throw you into close quarters with a policeman, a judge, and other inmates. Gotcha. Your go-to fascism to lay hands on all resistance doesn’t work so well in the new era, does it? Who’s going to make them? Who’s going to guard them? Since your rules just created 30% more potential prisoners, are you going to build 30% more beds, or just let out the violent offenders instead? Government: made of stupid. Nobody’s going to obey anything except voluntarily, on a normal day, but especially now. You have the power, not them. Stop being a coward and start acting like it.
“After years of outsourcing manufacturing,”
Huh, almost like we should have domestic manufacturing, employment, and functional borders. Who said dat? For four years?
Oddly, his article doesn’t point up how much MORE exposed the Chinese system has become, how much worse they planned, nor that low oil prices are the greatest boon the economy’s seen in 60 years and will make this go better than anything else they could have done. I’d also guess he’s the guy who voted for government “help” in healthcare that made rules forcing healthcare out of it’s functional size and delivery in 1992 and into the hollowed out, devastated state it is now. And as I keep writing every day, it’s not unaffordable. Provided you have no job, or are not a citizen, you can get infinite health care for free. Only if you work or save do you pay.
“US May Be Headed For Highest Unemployment Ever (RT)”
We’ve had 15% unemployment since 2000, and +20% since 2008. That’s what 10M out of workforce means. As all Socialist systems. Prob over 30-40% for the shut down.
“Yet Another Rant on Coronavirus & Trump (Brad DeLong)”
Another expert who has no numbers but TDS. Okay, what if everyone already has it, Brad? What if it’s sub 1% as the experts now say? What if you kill 100M people via unemployment instead? Thought about that? NOPE! Besides, we are now testing, but since the WHO and China tests were 80% wrong, as predicted, we needed to invent and produce those tests first. He’ll also be first to freak out when the number infected is 15 million, because we bothered to start testing. Here’s some cat food, I’ll pull you out of your basement quaking when it’s all over.
“represents a massive upward transfer of wealth.”
All bailouts and particularly all inflations do this. That’s why each time they “help”, income disparity increases. No one learns, they demand more. “[Three weeks] will be too late for the nearly 3.3 million people” Why will it be too late? Did they die? Will their landlord not cash the check? Will they say, “I never heard of no national pandemic thingy”? No, it’s too late because you made it up in your imagination, wrote it down on paper, and can’t tell the difference.
“international solidarity has played a priceless role in enabling the government to rise to the challenge. China sent coronavirus diagnostic kits that will allow 320,000 Venezuelans to be tested,”
Wow, you’re right. Those totally wrong tests will be very helpful. Ah governments. Who caused this in the first place, then dithered for 4 months. If only we were like them.
“government quickly carried out a plan to contain the spread”
Genius! If only we had been like them! Oh wait, they did this in MARCH, a month after we did, and 2-4 months after the start of worldwide national daily news. Isn’t that like the most irresponsible timeline of any nation so far? And is anybody following it? No one pays attention to the government there for anything else. …Nevermind. Socialism is always good. You know, like in China!
Just like today’s pics, where the doctors who deny its existence have great gear up until they are hauled away and go missing, and where what we REALLY want is a Dow of zero to stick it to those fat cats. …While we therefore by definition make no gloves, ship no masks, sell no food, and shut off the heat to your house. #Winning! No Dow, living in caves, le plus maxium doubleplus good. That’ll larn them!
Dr. D
ParticipantLet’s see if I can describe this properly: Commenter notes that the numbers we are seeing are 7 days in the rear view mirror. R0 notes that that we may have far more than 10x the number of untested or unsymptomatic cases. Let’s say NYC has 37,000. So if they’re doubling every 6 days that’s 75,000 x say 20x unknown/untested = 1.5 Million in NYC already have it. There are only 8.6M people in the city so we are 1/6th through.
Yet on the other side, the ICU/death cases, those are 100%. No one who needs the ICU waits 7 days just to keep the reported numbers in sync. So we are looking at ICU death numbers essentially 7 days ahead of the tested/reported numbers, and then never-reported, never-symptomatic which we know is wildly higher.
We have 280 NYC deaths. Per 1.5M people today’s estimated real infection. 0.018% death rate. If we are 1/6th through, 6 x 280 = 1,680 total deaths. Over say 3 months = 18.6 people/day. Normal death rate for NYC = 54,000. Even if those were all additional deaths — which is completely untrue, perhaps 80% would happen anyway because most people are over 70 and already have major underlying illness – that would add only 3%.
I can’t prove the exact numbers — and neither can they — but we can collectively agree, assume, and know this. So if I know this sitting in my parent’s basement, the WHO, CDC, Hopkins, Fauci DON’T know this? Oxford does. They published the study yesterday, which pretty sure BoJo, as head of state, read weeks ago. If he has the virus, why would he care? Virtually no one dies of it.
Would the Diamond Princess indicate this for anyone with passable math a month ago? 100% exposure among the 100% fatality group (over 60) and 11 dead of 2,670 passengers (assumes all crew are below 50) = 0.4% fatality among the only group who is at ANY measurable risk at all. Why do you think they locked them in and ran the test?
Look, I’m relatively weak at math as you know. But I did take competent math in grade school and retain it. I have a calculator function on my home computer. So do you.
You’re being conned. We’ve shut down a planet of 8 Billion for the deaths of one small town and you the people beg slavishly for open-ended martial law under Cheeto and give $6 Trillion leveraged 50:1 to the super-wealthy who will run that martial law and who are not subject to it, as always under Fascist, Socialist regimes. 4,400 Allies died on Normandy. Cuomo says he won’t let one death happen, not even for the sake of freedom, not for his country, not for any reason at all.
If only they showed such love when 30,000/year were being carried away, with all the morgues full and all the orphans left from only ONE cause during the 10 years of opioids in Kentucky and Arkansas. Can’t care/won’t care/didn’t care. But the death of ONE New Yorker! Why I say old chum! Math? Math says the life of a Coastal is now measurably 1,000x more important that the life of a Flyover. But we knew that for years. Sue Collins wrote a whole book on it.
If not a single person will risk themselves, will die for our principles of law, equality, and freedom who am I to say? Does any group who so cowers and begs and abandon their neighbors deserve better? We’re going to fight a war against a worldwide, invisible enemy and not lose a single man. If a single man is lost, or even risked, we’ll surrender all instantly, on the spot as we have a sub-0.4% chance of dying. Right? Sound good? Sign-up sheet is at the door. Let us all know which you choose, who you are.

Dr. D
Participant“a study released by Oxford finds that perhaps 50% of those in the UK have the virus and the overwhelming number experience it like the normal flu and have little symptoms. The study suggests that fewer than one in a thousand of those infected with Covid-19 become ill enough to need hospital treatment.”
https://www.ft.com/content/5ff6469a-6dd8-11ea-89df-41bea055720bThat matches Denninger. And our determined delay with tests. Because once we have a denominator, we’ll realize everybody has it.
Dr. D
ParticipantAnother day we don’t admit we have a pretty solid cure?
Another day no one died in China?
Another day we pretend the official 400,00 cases are deaths and not cold symptoms?
Always a good day to panic, always time to surrender.
Never a good day for math.
37,461 US Traffic / Year = 9,365.25 / 4 months. Corona = 685, making your daily commute 13x as dangerous. Loooooooong way from Obama’s 12,000 H1N1.
Italy: 6,820 / 60M = 0.0113% and rates are dropping. Average age = 81
Still half as deadly as cirrhosis of the liver, the lowest cause of death listed.
http://www.healthdata.org/italyNow that we have the election-winning stimulus, can we admit we have a cure now?
“12 Experts Questioning the Coronavirus Panic”
https://off-guardian.org/2020/03/24/12-experts-questioning-the-coronavirus-panic/
Trust doctors, trust science, trust experts, right? Nope: Panic! Follow the WHO that told us to keep those airports open!“At Least 13 Patients Die from Coronavirus in One Day at New York Hospital (CNN)”
420 people die every day in NYC on average.
“China Just Sent 150,000 Test Kits to Prague and 80% of Them Didn’t Work”
Wow, hey, what did I say about trying to provide false tests to cause a panic? Gotta stir that pot!
“Personavirus: Greta Thunberg Says Its “Extremely Likely” She Had COVID-19 Despite Never Being Tested”
Not only can she see carbon dioxide, but can identify viruses with her naked eyes too. Superpowers! What’s that? She’s in a nation with socialized medicine and can’t get a test, just like everyone in America? Just what I thought to myself, too. If only we had Sweden’s system, we could be ignored by the government and killed in the streets, but with higher taxes and less freedom.
“NHS Could Soon Exceed Capacity – Chief Medical Officer (Ind.)”
But socialized medicine is infinite and free!
“Using the coin to fund government spending is often dismissed as an “accounting gimmick”
49 + 1971 = 2020. We’ve had nothing but accounting gimmicks since 1971. And now you worry? The system is going to cease and reset. Btw, this is classic MMT, print prosperity with no cost or consequences, same as universal health care supposes. Gold rises $100.
M95 masks: Maybe this is why we need manufacturing and employment in the U.S. with functional borders? But I’m sure the answer to get more mask machines constructed and turned on is Communism. They’re well-known for their material surpluses.
“UK Coronavirus Mass Home Testing to Be Made Available ‘Within Days’ (G.)”
Antibody tests may be important in a different way altogether: http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=238638
“How Did Spain Get Its Coronavirus Response So Wrong? (G.)”
Did they? So you’re saying we know everyone, have infinite material, infinite knowledge, and it’s preventable? In that case, I hereby give all authority over the outbreak to Giles Tremlett, Guardian Reporter. Or perhaps we can ask a different question: since so many places behaved as bad or worse, why haven’t they been affected? Is it for the above Denninger post? Discuss. Because their present, established theory makes less and less sense.
“How much of the recent bad rap is coming from Big Pharma, which can’t make a dime on the stuff?”
A: All of it, plus some bonus TDS. Also fewer people will die if it’s easy, quick, and available. That’s always a deep sorrow, right Greta? And if so, we won’t restart the economy, fewer will die, and Cheeto will be re-elected. It’s always worth killing infinite people to unseat Cheeto.
“Trump’s Deadly Mistake in Comparing Coronavirus to Flu (IC)”
I’m sorry, what’s the difference except that COVID is much less deadly and we have a cure?
“California Sees 1 Million Unemployment Claims in Less Than Two Weeks (CNBC)”
Faster and more deadly than COVID. Yet we ache, beg, cajole, harangue, to kill people via the economy. Good work, people! Crime, murder, and suicide rates should spike shortly.
“US High Court Rejects Call To Free 736 Detainees At Risk From Coronavirus”
As you see, not here, but elsewhere, as they empty the jails onto the public with no jobs and no oversight. Guarantee for crime. The SEP Field, “Somebody Else’s Problem”, the most powerful invisibility cloak known to man. No, Daddy Government, that will make it MY problem as I get stabbed instead. Thanks.
Staying home: Will kill us all, not the Dow. WE are the ones who turn the economy that WE depend on for our lives. It doesn’t come from a magic Keebler Cookie tree, a magic Ventilator Goose, and a magic Bean that grows refried taco fillings. YOU do that work so if you stay home, YOU will die. And so will all your neighbors. So keep it up, schmarty-peoplez! Farmers will be happy to keep that food in the field, and riggers will be happy to keep heating oil in the wells, since that’s your hope and prayer for the Dow.
Socialism: “The system where everybody lives at everybody else’s expense.” Killing workers since 1867.
Dr. D
Participant“Coronavirus Stimulus Package to Exceed $6 Trillion – Kudlow (NYP)”
Yes, because he keeps telling you there’s a cure, and you say he’s stupid. The cure keeps curing, and the media says it’s wrong. This just needs to run long enough to get the stimulus to win the election, and long enough to collapse the banks, the Fed, and reset the monetary system.
If you’re reading about the cure, same as I am, why isn’t there a cure? It doesn’t exist until all known liars, CNN, Maddow, Brian Williams, reports it from the moon? This is identical to the “14 day” quarantine when it’s been 40 since Jan 1. Nevermind WHO, CNN, just keep not reading, keep reporting known-false facts.“Share Buybacks, $4.6 Trillion Driver of Stock Market Bubble, Are Toast (WS)”
Glad to hear it but it hardly matters. The entire system, the US$ are all being re-created.
“New York City: “..56% of all the coronavirus cases in the United States, as well as 60% of all new cases..”
Couldn’t happen to a nicer set of guys. They get it from being the most anti-environmental on the planet, the furthest from nature, the richest livers, and with the most money and therefore most air travel. Ah Babylon, Babylon, falling in a day. Meanwhile, Pa Kettle in Dry Husk, Kansas doesn’t seem to get it because he lost the car when NAFTA was passed. So cry me a river.
“White House Tells New Yorkers Who Leave State to Self Quarantine (USAT)”
I’m sorry: if they were “self-quarantining” why would they be leaving the state? They wouldn’t be leaving their house. But more on fake quarantine theater. Matches our fake security theater.
“United States Could Become Coronavirus Epicenter – WHO (R.)”
Today’s episode of “Bad at Statistics”. The U.S. is a larger nation, and therefore has more people than France, Italy, etc. That literally means we must mathematically have more cases, pending its extinction. China is lying and everyone from the President to the Janitor is playing along like bobbleheads, but I’m quite sure with 21 Million missing cell phone accounts they’re probably ahead of us by a few. Anyway, “Breaking Story: Larger nations have more people than smaller nations! News at 11.” Ah, but the feels, the feels! Ignore math: run around!
“[Korea] comparatively little disruption and just 125 deaths,”
Funny ol’ world. Not in Japan, Korea, Austria, Thailand, Russia, Africa… Just in THESE nations. Your story has no science in it, so you want to try another explanation?
“EU Shrugs Off US Sanctions, Gives Millions in Coronavirus Aid to Iran (ZH)”
They sure did. But not to Greece or Italy. Remember this one from 2018?
Iran’s Foreign Minister Threatens to Expose Western Diplomats Who Took Bribes to Create the Iran Nuclear Deal
Gotta have priorities!
“EU Urged to Evacuate Asylum Seekers from Cramped Greek Camps (G.)”
Great! To where? London? 737s to New York?
“Czech Borders May Remain Closed for Two Years, Says Top Official (ExpCZ)”
They’re not closed now, to say nothing of two years from now. Except for all the exceptions of all the thousands of critical things, all the shipping, all my pals, and shopping trips to Paris, they’re totally closed. Bet.
“Bolsonaro Says He ‘Wouldn’t Feel Anything’ If Infected with COVID-19 (G.)”
Most people who have it don’t feel anything either, and I’m pretty sure he can get better than chloroquine. Head of State: Think he might know something we don’t? Nope! We’re way smarter and better informed, and he’s a fool. We watch CNN! Haven’t been wrong yet! Just ask them!
“Australian Doctors Warned Off After Prescribing Hydroxychloroquine (G.)”
Press going at it, trying to prevent a cure and keep expensive pharma sales high and maximum people killed. People: it’s a PRESCRIPTION. That means it is by nature and by law, a CONTROLLED substance that is only to be used UNDER ADVISEMENT and overseen ONLY by a Doctor’s license. Not to be popped into a tequila chaser by the handful. LIKE. EVERY. OTHER. DRUG. ON. EARTH. So…thanks to irresponsible doctors, etc, people with Lupus are running short too. And I won’t even get into the fish food story whose only similarity was the word “Quine” …They should have tried “quinine” tonic water instead, it’s safer and more effective than the “quine” they used.
Anyway, all theater, none of it matters, 1971 + 49 = 2020. As long-known.
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