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ParticipantWES: they’re quitting ahead of pissed off “Republican” voters kicking them out in the next primary. This way they keep their dignity, if not also their millions.
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Participant@Kerry Wilson: welcome to the club.
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ParticipantThings that make you go hmmm: the three countries that seem to be the source of the “highly transmissible” variants are the U.K., South Africa, and Brazil. Where have I heard of those three countries recently? Oh, right, those are the three countries that hosted the Astrozeneca vaccine trials.
See page 8 in the paper describing the efficacy of different timings for the second jab
Coincidence? Side effect? Bug? Feature? Don’t know..
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ParticipantThe best time to buy is always yesterday… or last fall, when I was telling friends and family to get with the program (sadly, no one was convinced). I was really only window-shopping today, I could have bought yesterday if I really thought that I needed it. Not sure what I would trade it for if it turned into a ten-bagger anyway; I was mainly thinking of my nieces, thinking that perhaps I should grab a pile for each of them for when I’m gone. They’re more likely to live in a World Made by Hand than I am. Ah, well. If this doesn’t blow up the system another chance will probably come around.
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ParticipantHere is the thing… on one hand I’m pleased as punch to see the corruption exposed via the Reddit traders. As “Quoth the Raven” podcaster Chris says, it’s a beautiful red pill moment for a large number of people. And it is a gutsy move to go after silver; as I type this silver is up 7% on futures just this evening (Sunday 6pm). Seemingly knowledgeable people are saying in the various comment threads that there is no way this is going harm JPMorgan, the biggest manipulator of silver. But on the other hand, if it does, we may regret that we got our wish. If the Great Reset hypothesis is true, there will have to be a financial crash to usher in the new system, whatever that is. And that new system is not gonna be using real money (constitutional money, gold and silver), boys and girls. Nosiree.
Demand for physical silver is off the charts, with none to be had any large retail vendor. An hour ago the only silver that I could find was a 500 oz coin package for $17k. Interesting times.
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ParticipantApropos of the recent fireworks in GME, Melvin Capital, etc, this one never gets old:
Gene Burnett: Jump, You F*ckers
Credit to Karl Denninger at the Market Ticker for introducing me to that video/song.
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Participant@D Benton Smith: it would be hard to rip into you, prove you wrong, etc etc when I agree with you. On all of your points, although I do kind of reserve judgement on how long it will take to get to round 6 (the kinetic round); never underestimate apathy, confusion and media manipulation, and we are likely to see a couple more rounds 5a, 5b, 5c, etc. One of those was announced this morning on reddit by WallStreetBets, and it’s a doozy: they want to take on $SLV, the silver ETF:
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/reddit-rebellion-about-descend-precious-metals-market
Now THERE is a rich vein (pun intended) of shorts and manipulation, and taking that on would be epic. Almost makes me want to set up an account at a brokerage just to get in on the fun with a little coin that I wouldn’t care if I lost.
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ParticipantInteresting article in the Off-Guardian:
Fleshes out the case that I believe Dr. D mentioned first quite a while ago, that it was awfully conveeenient that Covid showed up just as the cracks started showing in the US Banking system in September 2019 with the Repo crisis. The most interesting thing in the article above is the author’s triangulation of country responses according to how closely tied each country is to the dollar hegemony system. Still, as I made the case to a co-worker today, it’s probably never just one reason; sure, it papers over the financial collapse while shoveling billions (did I just say billions, sorry, trillions) to the banks and most wealthy, but it also ratchets down energy consumption, it was a convenient vector to attack Trump, it has reinforced social control to the Nth degree, it probably has made billions for politicians on insider Pharma stock trading, yada, yada, yada.
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ParticipantIt’s unfortunate that the twitter link to the Richard Medhurst rant at the end was not a live link – you have to copy and paste into a URL address bar. The last sentence really says it all: “They got rid of Trump, and now they’re giving you the architect of the system that gave you Trump!”
If you want an unvarnished look back at Biden’s history, I recommend the last free episode of the “Death Is Just Around the Corner” podcast, “#113: The Old Man’s Back Again:”
https://podtail.com/en/podcast/death-is-just-around-the-corner/
D. Benton Smith: I also subscribe to the hypothesis that what we’re witnessing is the controlled demolition of society, to adjust the middle and lower classes to the new realities of energy depletion and financial overshoot. FWIW.
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Participant@phoenixvoice, with the caveat that anecdote is not the same as data… my sister, an international flight attendant for a major airline, believes she had Covid-19 twice: first in late January, and then again in late September. Only the latter one was confirmed with PCR testing, but she is convinced that the earlier one was, too, due to some of the classic symptoms such as loss of smell capability. Both were fairly serious (but not life-threatening) encounters, with the usual high fever, extreme fatigue, etc. I don’t think she would say that one episode was noticeably worse than the other. So, odds are that yes, you can get it more than once, with similar intensities.
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ParticipantDe-platforming: a crucial first step would be to make sure that the site is not on a U.S.-based host. A whois search on the domain reveals that Network Solutions can’t supply any information about the host, so perhaps Raul has wisely set it up to be in a good, neutral location (like, maybe, Switzerland).
WES, my friend, love your pithy comments, but is there any way you could perhaps combine all your comments together into one post, with @name to show who it is directed to as a response? When you make many separate short comments it pushes the comment section over 40 comments, which spills over to a second page, which forces all of us to reload the whole page and scroll down to see comments 41, 42, etc. Thanks!
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Participant@sinnycool: regarding chicken entrails… as you know, we have an inauguration coming up. The origin of the word inauguration has, I believe, chicken entrails embedded in it. Also the flight patterns of birds, and other natural phenomena, which the Roman priest class (called augurs) were called upon to interpret at important moments of State.
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Participant@zerosum, why are you always posting non-sequiturs? Seriously.
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ParticipantYeah, Mr. House, I’m thinking we’re not far off from the formation of Covid-19 truth commissions. Virologists and doctors for COVID 19 truth dot com. Grab the domain while you can.
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ParticipantWES, funny you should mention JFK and the CIA… I just started listening to an excellent podcast that has a five episode deep dive on that very topic. The podcast is called “Death Is Just Around the Corner,” I recommend it.
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ParticipantI had to jump down to the comments section to post this, without reading any prior comments or subsequent articles: how many days do you think it will take for Google/YouTube to take down the video of Dr. Kory’s testimony? 24 hours? 48 hours? Because they WILL do it, they’re that evil.
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ParticipantI want to dig into President Trump’s push to scrap Section 230, and the surprising support from Tulsi Gabbard (who I have generally respected in the past, and who puzzles me now). To me, scrapping Section 230 means that platforms (like Twitter, Facebook, or any web site with a comment section) would become responsible/liable for what is posted therein by the members/users/commenters. As such, I see scrapping Section 230 as a neutron bomb to completely eradicate freedom of opinion on the Internet, because no platform can take the risk of being sued for what is posted. Am I missing something?
As I see it, the problem is not the shield from liability, no, the problem is the censorship that is occurring: the algorithmic de-promotion of inconvenient truths, the labeling of tweets as false information, etc etc. How is scrapping 230 going to fix the censorship? Am I in opposite-land? To me, the problem is that Section 230’s prohibition against censorship in return for the liability shield is being ignored and abused. As far as I can tell what is needed are court cases by those that are harmed (say, Trump, or NY Post) that challenge the platform’s censorship: “Section 230 says you can’t be held liable for your content, but you’re putting your fingers on the scale, so we’re suing your sorry ass.” Or a credible threat from the DOJ to splinter social media into a thousand little pieces if they don’t play by the rules.
Again, am I missing something?
November 15, 2020 at 3:02 am in reply to: Slouching Out of the Fog Toward Pennsylvania Avenue #65589Rototillerman
ParticipantNicely said, @my parents said know. No need for apologies at all!
November 14, 2020 at 10:50 pm in reply to: Slouching Out of the Fog Toward Pennsylvania Avenue #65585Rototillerman
Participant@zerosum: if someone is already in the hospital it is too late for a vaccine. Vaccines work by triggering your body to gear up its immunity toward a specific virus, and that has to be done in advance. If someone is in the hospital they need effective treatment, as John Day outlines.
Poor people/poor countries probably will not get the vaccine, at least not at first, so they will serve as reservoirs of infection. I’m not sure that there will ever be a declared end to the pandemic; it’s been an authoritarian’s wet dream, start to finish.
November 14, 2020 at 10:03 pm in reply to: Slouching Out of the Fog Toward Pennsylvania Avenue #65582Rototillerman
ParticipantWell, Dr. D, I love your comments and posts, they are an island of sanity in a sea of lies, but… I don’t think it will play out in either of the two ways you outline. Especially not the second one; I like your optimism, but the Deep State looks at the clipboard, and there in capital letters is only one play: DOUBLE DOWN. So I think we will see a vicious media war to continue to push the narrative that Biden won, and President Trump must stop throwing tantrums and concede. For the good of the country, of course.
I did find it interesting that I was on an email thread where one person had described his anxiety over President Trump replacing top figures in the Pentagon; CNN had apparently told him that was because then President Trump would have sympathetic military leaders at the top who would refuse to throw him out on January 20th. Another hard-left, hard-Democrat, Trump-hating friend of mine replied in what I thought was a curious way: he said, “Don’t worry, I think Biden and the Deep State will prevail.” Even if he was being ironic, I thought it was progress that the notion of a Deep State had permeated the general populace to that degree, even to someone within the Trump-hating MSM echo chamber.
President Trump really has been the gift that keeps giving: first and foremost he has exposed that yes, Virginia, there is a Deep State that is militaristic and corrupt as all get-out. Then these last few weeks he has completely unmasked the degree to which the Deep State is aided and hidden by main stream media outlets like The NY Times, CNN, MSNBC, as well as Big Tech (Twitter, Facebook and Google) via their censoring of the Hunter Biden laptop story. Now Sidney Powell tells us that President Trump is going to expose the corrupt U.S. voting systems. Bring it, I say! Even if President Trump can’t manage to overcome the chicanery and fraud and legal road blocks to cling to the Presidency, I’ll still count it as a resounding win to get more truth out on these three topics. The only thing that would be a cherry on top would be for Durham to finally deliver some indictments on Brennan, Comey, McCabe, Page, Ohr, Strojk et al.
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ParticipantI don’t wish to take anything away from the rest of your story, Teri, but the story about Hogan ordering testing kits from South Korea and guarding them from the Feds seems to have been a PR stunt.
The capability of the political species for self-aggrandizement seems nearly infinite.
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ParticipantRegarding voting fraud/incompetence: my boss told me today that his son received THREE BALLOTS for the recent primary… and this is in freakin’ Washington state! Recall that I earlier posted a comment listing Washington state as one of three states with prior experience with vote by mail.
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Participant@John Day: my wife’s colleague just published the data that the Texas governor hasn’t shared with you. And it supports your 10:1 estimate of infections versus confirmed cases.
Notes from the Field: Seroprevalence Estimates of SARS-Cov-2
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ParticipantWatching his results using my hands off method, quite honestly, I don’t see any difference between what he accomplishes (using that term loosely) and what, say, Obama accomplished. Seems pretty much the same to me. Environment, immigrants, wages, jobs, blah, blah … what, seriously, is the difference between Obama and Trump? No one can actually say, can they, using real statistics? I suggest we put together one of those side-by-side charts and see how these 2 stack up on these pivotal issues. Want to place bets on that? 😉
OMG, this! I think Trump would fare pretty well in the foreign policy column compared to Obama (no new invasions, hey?) but I couldn’t say how it would wash out on the domestic side. If you don’t follow the minutiae of the Trump Outrage of the Day (“Immigrant children in cages!”, “Trump builds palace in Moscow for Putin!”, “Trump’s hands are actually tiny!” “Trump is literally shoving polar bears off ice floes in the Bering Sea!” etc, etc etc) Trump is just a Republican president, doing the Big Business-friendly things that Republican presidents do. Yes, he’s doing them in his uniquely coarse and uncouth way, with occasional slap-dashes of incompetence, but to me he’s not an outlier at all. Even setting aside Democrat presidents such as Obama, who I think is quite smart, does anyone think that Bush 1 or Bush 2, our two most recent Republican presidents prior to Trump, would have handled the pandemic better?! There would have been the same wishful thinking, the same flip-flops that favored air travel and big business over public health, the same platitudes and nonsense. Does anyone remember James Watt? Does anyone remember “Heckuva job, Brownie!” How about W’s war in Iraq that killed half a million people, predicated on lies? Or the ongoing “civil war” in Syria, started by that Nobel Peace Prize winner Obama, where we armed some of the very same people who were the villains in the prior war, only now we called them moderate rebels? But no, Trump is Hitler and democracy is stake.
Rant off.
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ParticipantOregon is the state I’m most familiar with, and Oregon has had, as far as I can tell, corruption-free voting for a long time (decades, at this point). Here is my concern: according to Ballotpedia.org, there are only three states that currently employ voting by mail as the primary method: Oregon, Washington, and Colorado. That means that you’ve got 47 other states and a couple of territories that will have to scramble to put a system in place. They will have to formulate procedures, buy equipment, test it, and deploy it all, in the midst of a pandemic with reduced efficiency, in a three to six month time frame (depending on when they woke up to the impending crisis). Even prior to the pandemic, hell prior to Trump, there were serious questions about the integrity of the US voting system (looking at you, blackboxvoting.org); as it stands now, we are looking at a clusterf*ck of epic proportions come November. Those 47 other states may manage to get the nominal job of printing, mailing, and tallying of ballots done, but there is no way that they’re going to be effective at verifying chain of custody and voter verification.
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Participant@Geppetto, Raul’s use of the word better was, I believe, in the spirit of someone saying, “it just gets more surreal.” Kind of like standing around the water cooler and someone says, “You won’t believe this! Trump just raised the possibility of delaying the elections!” Personally I think he is just pulling their (the TDS crowd’s) chain, just to make them bark, bark, bark.
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Participant@lasttwo: you don’t say where you are located, so it may be situational. Here in the Pacific Northwest, Willamette Valley specifically, farm ag supplies seem to be relatively normal: chicks, feed, and bedding are available in farm supply stores like Wilco. Actually, I would say that the chick situation is better than normal; there are chicks available in the store now in those steel stock tanks with heat lamps over them, and I think that in the past chick availability was a seasonal spring-only phenomena. I did notice that there were missing items in the fastener section of the local Home Depot, however, as I was purchasing supplies to make a rat-resistant chicken feed storage box.
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ParticipantInterestingly, my wife took this photo of me yesterday to model an apron she made for a friend.
Oh, Bosco, has no one told you that nothing ever goes away on the Internet?!
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ParticipantI’m good. Trying to write a piece on the US dissolving into god knows what it will become, but having a hard time getting it together the way I think it should be. I know what it will be called: “People Are Going To Die”.
Reminds me of Hugh Hendry: “I see dead people.” And that was back in, what, 2009?
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Participant@upstateNYer: one of the things my wife is very cautious about is making statements with incomplete data. So, unfortunately she is very disinclined to speculate about the way things went so far off track in New York. She does know colleagues in the New York state health system, and I’m sure at some point they’ll be sitting in Atlanta eating dinner after a CDC meeting and beans will get spilled. If I get the story at some point, I’ll report back here. It may be quite a while, however, since of course CDC is communicating with state health departments by Zoom like everyone else, instead of flying them in for periodic meetings.
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ParticipantBut okay, there are CDC guidelines that may have played a role in the nursing home disaster. Only, what are those guidelines?
Through March and April, the CDC guidelines for release from the transmission protocol were that the patient had to be symptom-free for 72 hours (no fever / no cough, though the cough was open to interpretation) and they had to have two consecutive negative PCR tests 24 hours apart. However, nursing homes and congregated living facilities could accept patients not meeting those guidelines back if they had the capability to properly isolate and care for sick patients. However, there is a lot of leeway in judging if a facility has that capability; my wife the epidemiologist says that staff has to be properly trained and equipped with appropriate PPE for the care tasks involved. For someone interacting closely with a resident that would be the full gown/gloves/mask, while someone delivering a meal and staying six feet away could probably just wear a mask. But here are some of the key take-away: nursing home staff are usually not medically trained (though there is always a medically trained supervisor) and nursing home staff are usually low-paid workers, sometimes without much (if any) paid sick leave. Thus you have a pretty high chance of staff becoming infected, and then they don’t know it at the asymptomatic early stages; later, the incentives are to keep working while possibly low-grade symptomatic, because they need the pay for their families to survive and they don’t have paid sick leave. My take on it is that arguing over whether CDC guidelines are to blame is probably a red herring, and the real failures are more subtle. Our state followed the CDC guidelines and didn’t have the kind of disaster New York experienced; I don’t think it is just the scale of the case load in New York. My wife says the AP article doesn’t really have the kind of detail to make a judgement on the appropriateness of what was done.
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ParticipantMy uncle reports that the sanitizing tunnels were set up in their city (Merida, Yucatan) weeks ago. They are just out in the open, scattered around the city; I got the sense that no one was being forced to go through them, they were just set up and citizens were encouraged to use them. They are really fortunate to live in the best-run state in Mexico, Yucatan.
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ParticipantRegarding the recent UVA hydroxychloroquine study trumpeted by mainstream sources, claiming that the patient group given hydroxychloroquine had more fatalities… Chris Martensen dives into the source paper and completely demolishes the conclusions. Turns out the paper was based on chart reviews after the fact, and there was no accounting for many factors (simply because it was a chart review paper, not a well designed and executed double blind study). The biggest confounding factor is that there was no accounting for how sick different patients were when they were put on hydroxychloroquine; the paper acknowledges that it was the sicker patients further along the disease progression that were given the drug as a sort of a “Hail Mary” play to stave off a bad outcome, but that’s not the way to effectively treat with the drug. To put it in plain English, very compromised patients were given the drug late in the game, and it was too late to do any good for a large percentage of them; these were compared against the untreated population where some died, but most didn’t. That is not an apples to apples comparison at all. The paper claims that they accounted for this in the calculations, but they give no details; to me that is the same as “we made shit up to discredit Trump.”
Like any antiviral, the earlier it is administered, the better the outcome. Also, I believe that there was apparently no mention of whether zinc was included in the treatment; pretty much all of the anecdotal evidence I’ve heard says that zinc is a crucial component: the hydroxychloroquine is the ionophore that ensures the zinc passes easily through cell membranes to defeat the virus replication.
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ParticipantMy wife the epidemiologist, who directed our states response to SARS (1) and Ebola and a couple of other near-pandemics, says contact tracing of Covid-19 is very problematic, due to the aerosol spread via aysmptomatic carriers. Specifically, the State would have to be incredibly aggressive about what is considered “contact:” were you on a bus with someone who later tested positive? Were you in a store with someone who later tested positive? Did you walk behind an unmasked person outdoors at the recommended social distancing for a block? In the past, contact tracing was much more cut and dried: did you visit someone who was positive? Did you sit next to someone on a plane who was positive? Etc. Essentially, we would have to accept a vast amount of “health surveillance” where Big Brother watches everyone’s moves via facial recognition on CCTV or via Bluetooth proximity apps, and I for one don’t want to go there.
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ParticipantMy wife is an epidemiologist, and I ran the “17 days” claim from the first article by CNBC by her… she said it is important to distinguish between viable virus RNA (that could infect you) and the bits of identifiable but non-viable RNA left around after a virus particle partially disintegrates due to time, heat, etc. The wording of the CDC release suggests the latter, though it isn’t especially clear on the point. To prove that it was viable they would have had to do a culture test, while doing the more usual PCR test would almost certainly pick up bits of the RNA, even if not viable. She knows and has worked with several of the authors of the CDC paper; maybe I can get her to prod them to update the article with more clarity.
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ParticipantStrangerdanger457, what was it Yogi Berra once said? Something like “Predictions are hard, especially about the future…” That being true, it is very hard to know if/when capital controls will come to the U.S. I tend to think that you won’t see capital controls until there is a fairly obvious run on the banks. What you seem to be envisioning, if I’m reading between the lines correctly, is One Big Jump out of The System. What I would suggest, instead, is to look for many little ways to lessen your dependence on the system, while still keeping your eyes open for an opportunity that matches your pocketbook. Some suggestions are to pick up useful skills like repairing things, growing and cooking food, and building social relations. Get out of debt at every level. Take complete responsibility for your health by paying a lot of attention to nutrition and exercise. And work hard to ensure that your entire family is on board for the lifestyle change you’re contemplating; sometimes that takes years, or doesn’t even happen then. Also, your question would probably spark a lively debate over at Peak Prosperity, where there are a lot of folks who have either made the transition you described, or are hoping to make the change in the near future.
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ParticipantMy wife is an epidemiologist in a western coastal state (until this past January she was the state’s respiratory influenza epidemiologist, now she just gets pulled in on an emergency basis: all hands on deck). The U.S. catches a lot of flak over how little testing is getting done, but the realities of testing are this: there is not enough test capability by a long shot, and sometimes the medical/epidemiological personnel get over-ruled for political reasons. The father of a kid in a school where there was a single case gets pneumonia and demands testing; initial ruling was no test necessary, as his bacteriological test came back positive. But a stink was raised, and he was tested; came back negative. You’ve got people coming out of the woodwork demanding testing for what are essentially seasonal cold symptoms. A much worse example: recently a cluster outbreak popped up in a nursing home in our state; the clamor for testing was intense, and eventually the state health department gave in and ordered everyone tested that was in contact. Here’s the problem: some of those tests are going to come back negative, and we know that this disease has false negatives in testing. Those people are going to think they’re in the clear, and if they’re workers at the facility they will probably not effectively quarantine, no matter what the state tells them. Why would they? Test came back negative! Also, testing the other inhabitants of the facility has no value: they’re not going anywhere, and they will just get treated as symptoms come up anyway. So a whole bunch of testing gets squandered because some county commissioner or whatever made a big stink.
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ParticipantDr. D, cloudhidden: you might also check out Chris Martensen’s video from yesterday:
At time marker 27:25 he discusses the work of Roland Baker, molecular geneticist at UC Berkeley, and shows a graph of mutations. Is it just me, or do the red and orange markers for the American cases appear to be larger mutations from the initial starting case? Certainly an interesting theory.
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ParticipantI’d like to offer this up as the sound track for Dr. D’s rant today:
“Life is Hard, But Life Is Hardest When You’re Dumb”, written by Mark Graham of the Pacific NW. Mark also wrote “Their Brains Were Small and They Died,” you might want to look that up on your own.
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ParticipantHere’s a nuanced mini-bio of Brother Dave that supports, in my mind, the notion that what caused his Dark Period…
Bosco, what was the point of the Dave Gardner bit?
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