upstateNYer
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“We’ve established they are lying, that was established rather quickly from the getgo. Why are we still talking about it/listening?”
Good question. Why are we.
“As @Antidote rightly reminds us, “we only see what we look at” “
Here’s a plan. Let’s stop looking.
“This is data from USA not from a suspected 3rd world country.”
Why would anyone automatically suspect 3rd world countries?
“The World Health Organisation tells pregnant women to get the jab to protect them and their families.”
See the first quote above. Anyone still falling for it cannot be helped. Time to move on.
I vaguely recall the hoopla over the “covfefe” tweet. Didn’t pay attention since I don’t use twitter and don’t think that twits, um tweets, are news.
However, “covfefe” seems strangely prescient at this point.
NY’s largest healthcare provider fires 1,400 who refused to get Covid vaccine
“The hospitals and clinical network, which operates Lenox Hill hospital in Manhattan, Staten Island University hospital and others said its 76,000 remaining employees are 100% vaccinated.”
“Other hospitals and nursing homes, including Syracuse’s Upstate University Hospital and St. Joseph’s Health, have similarly suspended or laid off any workers who refuse to get vaccinated. They are not eligible for unemployment benefits, according to the state Labor Department.”
Lovely. Just lovely. Get an experimental vaxx that doesn’t keep you from getting or spreading a disease … or get fired and live under a bridge or something because we’ve also sealed off your income stream. This is utterly exhausting.
Anectodal: 2 seniors with mini strokes. 2 seniors with cancer. 1 middle aged person with Stephen Johnson’s (autoimmune disease), although she does have health issues. My social circle is small so unusual for me to know this many. Related to vaxx? I don’t know. That’s the point. We aren’t looking. We’ll never know.
“PCR tests are the gold standard for COVID-19 virus testing …”
What a sad statement on the state of science and medicine considering PCRs aren’t fit for purpose and are being scrapped, even by the CDC.
Karl D apparently agrees with me and Michael Reid about taking any pharma concoctions “developed” for the purpose of fighting covid.
Merck’s New Drug – A Wonder Or Incipient Slaughter?
“This drug has the potential to be even more dangerous than mRNA technology because rather than “hijack” some of your cells to produce a protein that the immune system then recognizes it works by damaging the process by which DNA (and RNA) reproduce themselves in living cells. The premise that this will will be self-limiting in the patient, suppress the infection but won’t screw you over the intermediate and longer term is nothing more than a hypothesis.”
Karl D’s on a tear this morning: “You’ve destroyed the credibility of the so-called “medical profession” on a permanent basis for a huge number of people, myself included. I’d rather go to a Voodoo practitioner for medical advice …”
Ha ha ha … a “cocktail of anti-viral treatments.”
HIV and AIDS ring a bell for anyone with this statement?
“Merck partnered with a small firm called Ridgeback Biotherapeutics …”
I have a Ridgeback. Well, to be technically correct, I have a Rhodesian Ridgeback – a breed of dog originating in Africa. She’s a great dog. But she has the worst autoimmune issues of any dog I’ve ever had. She eats good food and is well cared for, but no matter what I do … not good enough. We hold a baseline on her health and it’s not “good health”, it’s “ok health”. Feel bad for the poor old girl (now 11 yrs old)
I’ll stick with ivermectin (sorry, deflationista, your sh*t hasn’t swayed me) and the drug companies can shove their poisons up their something or other, um, sideways.
Take that however you wish.
”Patients won’t be taking the drug for very long, typically around five days, which means “the safety profile is probably pretty good,” Dr. Gottlieb said.”
“… probably pretty good.” Really?? I’m so over their sh*t that … not only do I not listen, I don’t have have enough interest to come up with a response.
@Dimitri: “ There are persistent side-effect concerns with mutagenic molnupiravir, although the fact it is only used for five days in Covid-19 is somewhat reassuring, some noted.”
What passes for science these days. “concerns” “somewhat” “reassuring”
“molnupiravir has been investigated previously in other viral diseases…”
What happened during previous studies? Why hasn’t it been brought to market before now? Fighting viruses is worth real MONEY, folks. So what happened there? They didn’t care about money in the past so dropped a potential anti-viral drug?
Btw, how long have the Phase I – III trials taken for this lovely little token that shows how much pharma cares about humanity? (cue music …)
I’ll never trust any of them again. Done.
From yesterday’s discussion on how the covid injections could cause people to question all vaccines. I say good, and it’s about time.
Here in the US, the CDC vaccination schedule recommends over 30 shots by the time a child is 6 years old. That’s SHOTS, many of which have several vaccines within them (DTaP, MMR, for example). For god’s sake, we’re now vaccinating infants within a day or two of birth. What kind of sick mind does that?
Trust vaccines? Based on what? Our ability to trust big pharma?
Whatever it is people are smoking, I want some, too. Trust big pharma and their vaccines. Trust the CDC’s vaccination recommendations. Good lord, get a grip.
“In the USofA ALL citizens should be secure in there HEALTH, LIFE, LIBERTY & PURSUIT OF POSSESSIONS (ie not slaves)…”
That’s actually ridiculously over-the-top and unachievable in any real life situation throughout history, but ok, it’s a laudable goal. (And the “pursuit of possessions” thing … that was in the constitution? I missed it. Need to read more closely.)
@Bill7: “What does “winning” look like? I want to live et c in the unmediated, natural world. The plants come up out of the soil like miracles, already. That’s my idea of winning.”
Works for me. A lot of us feel that way. The rest who feel winning is a different thing altogether, can wallow about in the muck of their own making. As it was and ever shall be.
Speaking of that, this is an essay that’s worthy of contemplation:
https://brownstone.org/articles/are-you-ready-and-willing-to-be-free-again/
@veracious: very sorry you have to live your life feeling the way you do. Those of us who don’t feel like you do will get on with the act of living.
I’ve evolved from merely reading Dr D’s words to actually *feeling* them. Meaning: FDA, CDC, OSHA, POTUS, and all political parasites at all gov’t levels cannot arbitrarily make “rules” that override our constitutional rights. Not how it works in the United States. Period.
They can make recommendations (CDC asshats). They can make mandates (most asshats these days), which it appears are permissible in an emergency. We are not in an emergency. None of this is legal, consequently it isn’t lawful. So ‘f them.
They work for US. We elect them to carry out OUR interests. As Dr D says, we ARE the government.
Jesus, it’s time we all stood up and defended our rights. We don’t need to take our rights BACK because they never WENT anywhere. And it’s long past time to stop stewing in negative news about which asshat is implementing which asswipe mandate.
I say, bring it, you f’ing jerks. We are arrogant Americans. We will not go down without a fight.
As for you other countries (looking at you Australia, New Zealand, Lithuania, etc.) Knock off the sh*t and GET UP
Go, citizenx, go!!!!
“Nyet, nein nein nein, no fucking way …”
” … we will kick their fucking asses yippe ki yay mofos.”
“Buck up, take your dignity back- and shove it down their f’n throats with a vaccine rinse.”
Though not your neighbor, unfortunately, I’m with you in spirit! 🙂
Hang in, hang on, resist. No one said WWIII was going to be easy.
Up vote for V Arnold. 🙂
Besides, isn’t there some book that lots of people read that says something about the meek inheriting the earth?
The US is suddenly interested in donating Pfizer vials to other countries cause they’re going to expire and people here aren’t lining up to get jabbed. WAY, way back when I told tptb to donate [all of] my lifetime subscription doses. Can’t believe it took them this long to listen.
@zero: let’s see how many of the vulnerable (care home, etc.) residents are still alive following a double jab of both flu and spike protein generators at the same time. Lovely. Poor buggers.
Do you think Israel has noticed that its 7 day moving average case rate is higher now than it has been throughout the so-called pandemic? (per worldometer)
Let the insanity continue. Good lord.
@boogaloo: could shorten that conversation a lot by simply telling people that after reviewing the results of multiple peer reviewed, 5 year studies of long-term effects of the covid injection you’ll consider whether to get injected yourself. After all, you believe in following the science. Why is it our job to educate people who can’t be bothered to educate themselves? (how many hours do these same people spend on facebook every day?) And to also figure out “how best to reach them.” They want the jab? They want 6 month boosters for life? Let them go ahead and get jabbed.@germ: “Do you really believe that the elites have taken the clot shot?”
Not even slightly.
@phoenix: we’ve talked about shedding here at various times. Vaccinated don’t shed the virus as that’s not what is in the vial. They *could* shed the spiked protein they produce following mRNA injection.
You won’t find literature on it. Most people who have experienced problems point to the vaccine studies themselves, which [don’t remember exact wording] basically excluded people who spent time with pregnant/trying to get pregnant women, etc. Question would be, why???
I believe it happens to varying degrees, at times. Consider yourself lucky if you only experienced a headache. Mine was much worse following indoor, extended contact with a close relative on the day of his vaccination.
The Spartacus letter has been deleted? (link says so) Hope thousands saved it. Wonder where it will resurface, as I’m sure it will.
@Noirette: excellent take down of Michael Moore. Kudos!!! I skimmed the first paragraph of the MM post, nearly vomited, stopped reading. Great that you also brought Chomsky and Hedges. Correct on all counts. Thank you!
Thank you, oxy. Feeling sad, confused, discouraged and angry lately, as if you couldn’t tell from my comments. 😉
I agree with @russell. Don’t see potential for Marek’s for the reasons he mentioned. Also because [most] humans don’t live constantly packed together with barely enough room to stand or move about, which would considerably increase the potential for Marek’s.
Australia appears to have gone ’round the bend (insane). Wth is going on over there? The video germ posted yesterday of police beating the crap out of people was disturbing. I get it, those were short clips and maybe those individuals did something in advance to warrant arrest, but holy cow. Brutal attacks on the part of police.
I agree with V Arnold: “We’re in the gravest of dangers in my 76+ orbits; but lack any meaningful dialogue showing a way out of this impending disaster…”
If anyone is a praying person, please do a whole bunch of it. Most of the world is in serious trouble right now and needs assistance, and it isn’t clear where to get it as all levels of the system are corrupt. If violence becomes the only answer, and it erupts globally as a chain event, the results could be similar to a nuclear war.
The US obviously has some issues within our population due to our diversity. It’s in the headlines constantly as TPTB drum up division in our society to suit their needs.
That same diversity, however, is what will keep this country’s population from going the way of other countries where the vast, vast majority are vaccinated. And also lining up to vaccinate their children.
I think there’s still hope for us. I’m troubled by the use of natural immunity and religious/medical exemptions as the basis for legal fights against vaccine mandates. I understand it’s a platform for the argument, and the easiest one to fight for, but the legal fight should be based on constitutional rights. Otherwise this thing drags on for months if not years as the courts keep tossing the hot potato onto the next level and the lawyers get richer and richer.
Thank you for the Expose link, Germ.
Apparently injecting a lab-produced concoction of crud into your body where it takes over your cells and instructs them to make toxic proteins … can also cause your body to just plain go haywire. Who could have known?
Pathologists have “never seen this before”. Of course they haven’t. Experimental injections, never before used in humans, previous animal studies [for decades] that used this technology failed.
Why is any of this a surprise? Any of it? To anyone?? But keep lining up for boosters, all you good little consumers. Darwin, indeed.
That idea also assumes there is benevolence associated with what TPTB are doing. Sure, that’s what it is – they care so much about us they’re allowing us to blithely terminate ourselves rather than experience an upcoming life-extinguishing event only they have knowledge of. Jesus.
These covid injections were not developed by science, whatever that term means at this point in history. They were developed by people with a God Complex, are produced by people with a Greed Complex, and mandated by people with a Power Complex. They are psychotic. All of them.
I’ll take support from BLM against vaccine mandates, hypocritical though it may be. Why not – they were allowed to burn US cities down all last summer with open support from many of our so-called leaders – those leaders can step up now and continue to support BLM’s latest message: vaccine mandates are discriminatory.
Which they are.
That particular upstate NY hospital shutting ORs is a very big deal. That’s our SUNY (state university of NY) teaching hospital. It’s absolutely enormous and has a monopoly in the region (that’s what happens when you have direct access to state funding – distinct advantage there). The region extends pretty much from Canada to Pennsylvania, btw.
Here’s a quick glimpse into just what a powerhouse Upstate University Hospital is:
https://www.upstate.edu/about/Congrats to Biden admin and all politicians actively supporting and cheering this sh*t show on … good job, guys!!
