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  • in reply to: Debt Rattle December 28 2021 #96444
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    Kunstler said,

    I confess I am torn between two views of this fiasco.

    [..] It may turn out to be various combinations of both views, with a uniting overlay of mass formation psychosis. In any case, I’m serenely convinced that we will learn the truth about all this, and perhaps not too far down the line.

    and this will turn on Fauci in such a way that he is likely to get a disease or syndrome named after him.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle December 28 2021 #96443
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    Not what I was hoping, just another way to lockdown w/o calling it lockdown.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.tellerreport.com/amp/2021-12-27-finland–vaccine-certificates-are-no-longer-considered-sufficient.SyHgA6hwoK.html

    [..] Markku Tervahauta, director general of the Institute of Health and Welfare, believes that omikron has changed the rules of the game a/and that vaccine certificates are no longer a safe protection.

    The new variant is so easily transmitted that the idea that those who can show a corona passport are not infected, no longer works, he says in an interview with Dagens Nyheter.

    [..] The decision to abolish the certificates will lead to theaters, cinemas and other types of sporting and cultural events having to close their doors in practice.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle December 28 2021 #96438
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    Oxy arrives home from a days work.

    Supman

    in reply to: Debt Rattle December 27 2021 #96415
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    If Finland drops the vax pass because the jabs don’t work it could have quite the domino effect. Also Kavanaugh deferred to the whole court, so all the justices will hear oral arguments on the 7th regarding the OSHA ETS and the CMS mandate.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle December 27 2021 #96410
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    Finland on the verge of stopping vaccination certificates Tomorrow, Tuesday, the Finnish government will decide on new restrictions and the temporary abolition of vaccination certificates.

    https://www.dn.se/varlden/finland-pa-vag-att-stoppa-vaccinationsbevis/

    in reply to: Debt Rattle December 27 2021 #96338
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    in reply to: Debt Rattle December 27 2021 #96337
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    BREAKING NEWS
    COVID-19: First person in Israel vaccinated with fourth vaccine.

    Fearful you were. And fearful you are. And fearful is written in your future.

    Today I have hit my capacity think. I feel as if my head will explode, too many signals (real, false, imagined?) Fortunately, a rare warm day in December is forecasted. Today I will ride.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle Boxing Day 2021 #96296
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    Histopathologic analysis show clear evidence of vaccine-induced autoimmune-like pathology in multiple organs. That myriad adverse events deriving from such auto-attack processes must be expected to very frequently occur in all individuals, particularly following booster injections, is self evident. Beyond any doubt, injection of gene-based COVID-19 vaccines places lives under threat of illness and death. We note that both mRNA and vector-based vaccines are represented among these cases, as are all four major manufacturers.

    https://popularrationalism.substack.com/p/as-evidence-of-pathogenic-priming

    in reply to: Debt Rattle Boxing Day 2021 #96293
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    in reply to: Debt Rattle Boxing Day 2021 #96292
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    Fascism is the glue, government enforced pain, that keeps capitalism from falling apart.

    “If you wish to better the world, first you must pay a price.”

    A bit long but worth watching.

    2030 UnMasked (2021) | For those Preparing for what’s Coming After Covid-19

    in reply to: Debt Rattle Boxing Day 2021 #96279
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    in reply to: Debt Rattle Boxing Day 2021 #96278
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    In the limit:

    getting the infection creates lasting immunity

    getting the injection creates lasting autoimmunity.

    What if, Omicron delays danger signals, looking mild but possibly not being mild at all.

    Yuri Deigin – I am a drug developer and longevity activist currently working on an epigenetic rejuvenation gene therapy via partial reprogramming by Yamanaka factors. (linkedin)

    Yuri tweeted out his thoughts on Omicron the other day,
    “Omicron is not mild. It might be mildER than Delta but it is still deadly. Given how transmissible it is, that means overwhelmed hospitals and many extra deaths.”

    Lovely, just what Fauci needed for Christmas.

    Back on Dec. 9th, Yuri tweeted out the following chart questioning Omicron’s origins.

    omi

    There is a discussion developing as to where this is headed (worst case). This 2003 wired article had some interesting takeaways in regards to this vein of reasoning. It also captures some of the known risks/uncertainties of rushing a coronavirus vaccine to market.

    https://www.wired.com/2003/05/feds-race-to-make-sars-
    vaccine/

    [..] “No one wants to make healthy people sick by giving them shots intended to prevent illness. So typically vaccines are tested painstakingly on thousands of volunteers over many years to prove they do far more good than harm.”

    [..] “Scientists are especially cautious because of their experience with vaccines aimed at animal relatives of the SARS virus. SARS is a coronavirus, the same virus family that causes serious diseases in pigs and other animals. While shots work well against some of these, they occasionally go disastrously bad. A vaccine for the feline coronavirus actually results in worse disease, not less, when cats catch the virus.

    But as happened with the cat vaccine, they sometimes trigger an off-kilter immune reaction, so when attacked by the actual virus, the system responds with a weak or misguided defense.

    [..] “When that is finished, Murphy will probably turn to another approach that has produced most of the world’s vaccines, an attenuated virus. These are made by growing the virus over and over until it builds up enough mutations to leave it too weak to do harm.

    Because the attenuated viruses cause true infections, they trigger an especially robust and well-rounded defense, arming the immune system to launch both antibodies and virus-killing T cells. But there are drawbacks: They can take a long time to make, and the crippled virus can theoretically mutate to regain its power, making people sick.”

    [..] “One approach is using gene-splicing to make plenty of SARS virus parts, such as the protein prongs that stick out from the virus, giving it a crown-like appearance under a microscope. Injecting these proteins — but not the virus itself — may be enough to prompt the immune system to recognize the SARS virus.

    A vaccine made this way works well against hepatitis B. But like killed viruses, the bare proteins can also trigger wimpy or aberrant immune responses.”

    Not sure why, but this Queen tune captures my mood in the moment.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle Christmas Eve 2021 #96169
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    Dr. D,

    Great, easy to understand summary of how the beast system is structured and operates. Thanks for that.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle Christmas Eve 2021 #96167
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    Desiring A Better Country
    by Douglas Farrow (launched six days ago)

    “The Mask and the Face.” Powerfully spoken. Thanks for that Raul.

    Desiring something better and our struggle to actualize that desire is what connects us here at TAE. Truly appreciate this space and look forward to a new day.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle December 23 2021 #96166
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    Desiring A Better Country
    by Douglas Farrow (launched six days ago)

    “The Mask and the Face.” Powerfully spoken. Thanks for that Raul.

    Desiring something better and our struggle to actualize that desire is what connects us here at TAE. Truly appreciate this space and look forward to a new day.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle December 23 2021 #96133
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    V. Arnold,

    Not pointless at all. More people are waking up and letting their light shine. Those that were unconscious slaves are starting to see it and step out of the darkness. The old normal is now being seen as abnormal and there is no desire to go back to that. A tipping point could be on the horizon. Malone shared some thoughts today along this idea.

    https://rwmalonemd.substack.com/p/omicron-has-cracked-open-the-overton?r=ta0o1&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web

    in reply to: Debt Rattle December 23 2021 #96064
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    From bad cattitude,

    [••] “not only is omicron affecting the vaccinated and the boosted, but is likely doing so preferentially with infection rates among the vaccinated exceeding the unvaxxed which likely points to issues with antigenic imprinting (OAS) that has locked immune systems into less effective and non sterilizing response patterns.“

    https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/more-evidence-on-omicron-vaccine

    in reply to: Debt Rattle December 23 2021 #96052
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    Yep, Mr. Roboto hoping for the worst.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle December 23 2021 #96051
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    “Curiosity killed the cat” is a proverb used to warn of the dangers of unnecessary investigation or experimentation.

    I have read a bit of sciencey stuff that I’m not versed in the language of, therefore I know the basis of any takeaways are likely dubious.

    Corona, cold and HIV Virus research, 40 years and no vaccine, bagel, A lot of research though. Most eyes are fixated on the spike, 5G graphene activated nanobots for others.

    But the really serious shit is the adjuvants, usually aluminum salts. Now there are these curious LNPs to which Doc hilights the term, “Immune exhaustion”. Hmmm, meow to me.

    Anyway, found this to be curious about.

    “Chronic immune activation is a hallmark of HIV infection, yet the underlying triggers of immune activation remain unclear. Persistent antigenic stimulation during HIV infection may also lead to immune exhaustion, a phenomenon in which effector T cells become dysfunctional and lose effector functions and proliferative capacity.”

    Bring on the boosters.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle December 22 2021 #95997
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    WES,

    Oh ya, and my wife struggled with receding gums until the tooth with the root canal was pulled and the infection treated and cleared.

    If you are having persistent, unresolved health issues and have teeth with root canals seek out a periodontist, preferably one that understands that it is a bad idea to use mercury amalgams, and get a high resolution image of the tooth and jaw bone. They have phenomenal imaging equipment now. It might cost $200 – $300, but worth it.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle December 22 2021 #95979
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    in reply to: Debt Rattle December 22 2021 #95977
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    Hey Phoenix,

    Main two symptoms were mild congestion and a fall off in energy. It’s odd, because she sees clients at our home and she works with therapeutic essential oils which are not congesting. Her new policy is not to see someone within a month of their shot. She has lost clients because of this and of course not having had the shot.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle December 22 2021 #95964
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    But Pharma has harmed so many people — first with the childhood schedule and now with coronavirus vaccines — that there are now millions of people who have seen vaccine injury first-hand and are now fighting back with everything they’ve got. Variously referred to as the medical freedom movement, the health choice movement, and/or the personal sovereignty movement, these brave citizens are taking on the most powerful industry in the world and fighting to save our country from Pharma fascism. The fighting is so fierce because the stakes are enormous. We are fighting to preserve human life as we know it from the most predatory and corrupt industry in the world.

    https://tobyrogers.substack.com/p/the-political-economy-of-autism

    in reply to: Debt Rattle December 22 2021 #95953
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    I’m anti-root canal now.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle December 22 2021 #95952
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    Right. My wife usually falls in the tails. She had Rothschild like blood panels but was not in the best health. Turns out she had an asymptomatic infection brewing below a root canal in the jaw. Took years to abscess. We implemented RCP, the root canal protocol and pulled that puppy. The nagging health issues disappeared. Makes perfect sense, once you understand how the hormone, hepcidin works. It’s what insulin is to fat storage.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle December 22 2021 #95948
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    Oroboros,

    That is interesting. It is a point of debate between my wife and I. She swears that when she works with a client that was recently injected she starts having allergy like symptoms. Which I didn’t take too seriously, but hey, it could be like ragweed. It impacts some people in the fall but not everyone.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle December 22 2021 #95947
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    Right now, the CDC is scaring parents with Multisystem Inflammatory Syndrome in Children (MIS-C).

    A condition where different body parts can become inflamed, including the heart, lungs, kidneys, brain, skin, eyes, or gastrointestinal organs. We do not yet know what causes MIS-C. However, we know that many children with MIS-C had the virus that causes COVID-19, or had been around someone with COVID-19. MIS-C can be serious, even deadly, but most children who were diagnosed with this condition have gotten better with medical care.

    Now, when children get infected with Covid they can blame the disease and not the shot.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle December 22 2021 #95944
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    Another interesting point is clotting with serious cases. I believe he used aspirin also. In general, I don’t think allergic reaction and multi organ vascular clotting go hand in hand. I’m not a doc, just curious.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle December 22 2021 #95941
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    Oroboros,

    If remember correctly, Chetty didn’t rely on IVM for treatment. Will listen later. Thanks.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle December 22 2021 #95939
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    The truth seems to be spreading as fast as omicron. Raul should be overwhelmed with what to post tomorrow. Starting to feel sorry for this guy (not!).

    Fauci is no Jessup, he will never come clean.

    in reply to: An Open Letter to Friends #95899
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    “Fixed that”

    Crossed my mind when I typed it that you might pirouette off it. My head is still spinning.

    in reply to: An Open Letter to Friends #95842
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    Hmmm, I think bosco is on to something. He certainly speaks from experience and speaks to it honestly.

    “If anyone comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters—yes, even their own life—such a person cannot be my disciple.”

    in reply to: An Open Letter to Friends #95839
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    Hi Huskynut,

    Oceania has been one of the canaries in the coal mine and I appreciate you taking the time to resonate the importance exercising our voices.

    It’s funny, I was talking with my sister last night and our parents used to have a cabin home in Appalachia. This was in the late 80’s and she was like, “Do you remember those billboards that said Bill Gates was the antichrist?” I was like, “Yep, and they also had those churches that brought in live rattlesnakes.”

    Have you had any Jacinda Arden is the antichrist billboards erected lately?

    Kidding aside, I think I will incorporate what you wrote here in my next response to HR.

    There is no statistical correlation between countries with high vax uptakes and good covid outcomes. None. Not between countries, or within countries, where individual states are compared with others. If the damn jabs worked, that correlation should stick out like dog’s balls by now.

    If Supreme Court upholds this OSHA ETS in the states, they are planning to shut my badge off and bar me from the office unless I submit to masking and testing. Needless to say, that’s not happening.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle December 19 2021 #95652
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    Your thoughts, comments and jokes will be read with a deeper context given the circumstance you have shared. Wishing you (and wife) well.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle December 19 2021 #95648
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    “I like to make comparisons. I like to turn things inside out and upside down, move them outside their officially labeled designations and see what a thing actually is, i.e., what it can do under differing contexts and perspectives.”

    You do this well.

    Like the Bollywood vibe, that should give oxy something to chuckle about today.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle December 19 2021 #95642
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    Another Dr. D-ism

    “Protecting the vaccinated from the unvaccinated.”

    The purpose of the mandate is to protect unvaccinated people. The rule’s premise is that vaccines work. And so, OSHA has explained that the rule is not about protecting the vaccinated; they do not face ‘grave danger’ from working with those who are not vaccinated.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle December 18 2021 #95599
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    If you are at a company with 100+ employees, the OSHA ETS is back in play.

    The Sixth Circuit’s decision was appealed this morning to the Supreme Court; however, this appeal does not alter the decision unless and until the Supreme Court rules.  In the meantime, employers should resume (or continue) preparations to comply with the ETS requirements. For a summary of the OSHA ETS and its requirements, visit here.

    What does this mean for employers?
    As we had counseled earlier, there are various steps employers should take to come into compliance with the ETS.  As mentioned above, OSHA has stated it will not issue citations for noncompliance “so long as an employer is exercising reasonable, good faith efforts to come into compliance” with the rule. This means employers should, at a minimum, develop their COVID-19 workplace policy, begin to get proof of vaccination status of employees, inform employees who are not vaccinated that they will be required to mask and test, and begin determining how they will implement the testing requirement. (For a quick summary of the ETS, you can re-read our earlier post here.)

    “To provide employers with sufficient time to come into compliance, OSHA will not issue citations for noncompliance with any requirements of the ETS before January 10 and will not issue citations for noncompliance with the standard’s testing requirements before February 9, so long as an employer is exercising reasonable, good faith efforts to come into compliance with the standard.” 

    “[f]undamentally, the ETS is an important step in curtailing the transmission of a deadly virus that has killed over 800,000 people in the United States, brought our healthcare system to its knees, forced businesses to shut  down for months on end, and cost hundreds of thousands of workers their jobs. In a conservative estimate, OSHA finds that the ETS will ‘save over 6,500 worker lives and prevent over 250,000 hospitalizations’ in just six months.”

    in reply to: Debt Rattle December 17 2021 #95528
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    Oops boogaloo, here is link to article

    https://ianmsc.substack.com/p/part-2-masks-and-vaccine-passports

    TDK,

    They will probably take unvaccinated that had Covid previously, but won’t disclose that until 75 years from now.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle December 17 2021 #95524
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    Boogaloo,

    2 for you,

    It seems amazingly tragic that so few actually see the evidence existing in these charts. The futility of trying to “do something” by governments in response to citizen outcries must be terribly frustrating. But looking at ourselves, how did we devolve from independent selves into children to of the government? Watching so many give up freedom in exchange for security in spite of really knowing in their hearts that government can’t provide security. Our collective dismissal of a spiritual higher power (call it the universe, if you must) has given government a role impossible to fill. (pinched from the comments section)

    https://ianmsc.substack.com/p/part-2-masks-and-vaccine-passports/comments

    Reading between the lines, Chris Whitty said in his quote above, that Omicron may be less severe in South Africa due to their natural immunity and the UK’s vaccinated immunity is unlikely to be as resilient.

    https://nakedemperor.substack.com/p/reading-between-the-lines-chris-witty

    in reply to: Debt Rattle December 17 2021 #95523
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    AUSTIN (KXAN) — Are you unvaccinated against COVID-19 and open to making up to $800?

    [..] There will be a requirement of eight visits over the course of one year. Each visit, participants will get $100. Those taking part will receive two doses of Pfizer that are slightly altered, administered with about a month in between the two shots.

    [..] So far, there are no applicants for the current trial, as no one has signed up. ARC does plan on compensating participants for their time and travel.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.kxan.com/news/local/austin/unvaccinated-austin-residents-can-make-up-to-800-in-new-research-trial-of-modified-covid-19-vaccine/amp/

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