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  • in reply to: Debt Rattle April 25 2019 #46917

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    https://www.rt.com/news/454328-france-minister-brexit-cat/
    “I’ve ended up calling my cat Brexit,” the paper quoted France’s Europe Minister Nathalie Loiseau as writing. “It wakes me up meowing like crazy every morning because it wants to go out, but as soon as I open the door, it just sits there undecided and then looks angry when I put it outside.”

    in reply to: Debt Rattle March 31 2019 #46378

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    I read the global trade madness piece. I find it compelling, and yet I would really want to understand what is going on, deeper. For instance, it says that the US imports 365,000 tons of potatoes and exports 325,000 tons. Which countries are the imports coming from, and which ones going to? Why? This does not seem to make much economic sense, and yet somehow it must. How? The piece does not say. It would explain a lot if the authors actually followed through and dug deeper. But the piece stops at a very superficial: how crazy is that?

    Now what really puzzles me is the Automatic Earth stance on the matter. These economic international and really intercontinental arrangements have only been set up recently, as a result of economic trade agreements pursued by entities such as transnational corporations, technocrats and politicians in, say, the European Union. It used to be that TAE would expose, mock and denounce the turbo-capitalist financial economy as an environmental and financial unsustainable disastrous Ponzi scheme, and preach a more resilient and sustainable economy based on something more local and human scale. Fine, but now enters Brexit, which would constitute a modest attempt to disentangle somewhat one country from this very global economic world order and its opaque international obligations. And curiously on this topic, TAE has been predicting apocalypse, peddling a barrage of critical pieces, suggesting that the Brits can expect to collapse into a new Venezuela, huddling poor, hungry and lacking medication under bridges if they intend to actually go through wih their illegal, idiotic plan by knaves, racists, certified cretins and fools to leave the European Union.

    I cannot understand the logic here. Has TAE come to love Big Brother?

    PS: I find ironic that Local Futures that wrote the Trade Madness piece claims it wants to ‘shift away from dependence on global monopolies, and towards decentralized, regional economies’. Local Futures is at least consistent by calling the EU as dedicated to corporate interests and economic globalization; the EU economy as increasing pollution and CO2 emissions; economic integration as imposing human and ecological monoculture; and the EU as stripping national governments of political power

    in reply to: The Demise of Democracy #46360

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    The post-Brexit train wreck is really something that should make you cry in despair. But in case you’d rather laugh, an all-too-true analogy:

    in reply to: The Demise of Democracy #46348

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    I used to think that the UK was still a place of grown-ups, responsible, confident and capable, keep calm and carry on. What this farce shows is how low that country has sunk. Their entire political class: timid, incompetent, confused, pusillanimous, faint-hearted, indecisive, quarrelsome, weak-willed, irresolute, in over their heads. A laughingstock of the world. Prisoners of a thousand bureaucracies. “What are we going to do with the Halibut Commission? Oh, goodness gracious, the Halibut Commission! This is just too, too much! I think I’m about to faint!” Their ancestors set up an empire on which the sun never sets, now they go weak at the knee at the very thought of just ruling themselves… Unthinkable! Inconceivable! We will all be dead by week 2! Lord, lord, have mercy on our souls!

    in reply to: Debt Rattle March 17 2019 #46055

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    Regarding Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez
    – who exactly said, who had headlines saying that she trails in every group except for a few? I checked all the referenced articles, I saw no such headlines. Who exactly said that old conservative white men are now everybody? Some anonymous random person on the internet?
    – I’m not impressed with democrats who wail at how unfair it is that one tv network is biased against them when pretty much the entirety of the US media is biased in their favour
    – the fact that she sinks as more people get to know her is difficult to spin positively
    – she tenuously leads (falling) among women, but trails badly among men
    – she tenuously leads among the youngest (falling), but trails badly among all others age categories
    – at 31% favorable, this is much lower than Trump. Would you say that “Americans” view HIM favorably, or that “Americans” view him unfavorably? So, yeah, as most articles accurately pointed out, she is very much a mirror image of Donald Trump (except not viewed as favourably overall)

    in reply to: Debt Rattle March 15 2019 #46019

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    OK, so Montréal home prices have grown more than San Francisco since 2002, but before talking bubbles you’d need to compare actual prices. And Montréal started from a baseline that was way, way lower. It used to be one of the cheapest large cities in North America.

    And the city’s economy is doing surprisingly well at the moment. Record low unemployment, and some well paying jobs in tech.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle February 27 2019 #45608

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    Meanwhile Alberta is having its coldest February in decades
    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/alberta-cold-spring-forecast-record-wind-chill-temperatures-calgary-1.5032649

    As the other guy said…

    The golden rule of pro (anti) climate policy activists:
    Weather is not climate when it’s cold (hot).
    Weather is climate when it’s hot (cold).

    in reply to: Debt Rattle February 21 2019 #45515

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    Is that a time-travelling Vladimir Putin in that portrait?

    in reply to: Debt Rattle February 21 2019 #45514

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    UK And Ireland Retailers Warn Of 40% Tariffs On Food In No-Deal Brexit

    Godohgodthehumanity!

    Another one of those scaremongering, idiotic anti-tariff anti-Brexit stories.

    OK so we have a no-deal Brexit, and tariffs kick in and due to them some food items go, I’ll trust you on that, 40%.

    Sure, the costs of tariffs being levied will be transfered to the consumers, and that, ceteris paribus, means price increases for the consumer. The stories then usually turn to moaning about the idiotic poor fools who voted for Brexit and who will now die of hunger. What those stories systematically studiously avoid considering is that those ceteris will certainly not remain paribus. For that to occur, we would have to think that the UK government will be collecting all those tariffs, presumably untold billions of pounds if they are to starve the British public, and then promptly setting them on fire. OF COURSE THEY WILL NOT DO NOTHING WITH THEM. This is increased revenue, available to spend as the UK government wishes: increased welfare payments, unemployment payments etc. But if it is not too dumb, the UK government would be returning this money straight to UK consumers. Sales tax, VAT could be lowered from 20% to 18%, 15%, 10%, whatever is enough to offset tariffs so that their imposition is cost-neutral to consumers.

    I won’t even get into how imported goods being suddenly markedly higher might stimulate import replacement. Milk? Cheddar? Whoever heard of Brits ever producing cheddar?

    People peddling those stories might sometimes be dumb enough never to think the story through. But I bet most of the times, they know very well it makes no sense. It’s agitprop – for a good cause.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle February 14 2019 #45410

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    Yeah, in other insignificant trade news today – unreported by the automatic earth: another trade deal signed between the UK and another insignificant Seychelles, called the United States of America.

    https://www.gov.uk/government/news/uk-and-usa-agree-to-continue-mutual-recognition-agreement
    An arrangement which helps boost British trade with the US will continue when the UK leaves the European Union, supporting jobs in both countries.

    The Mutual Recognition Agreement on Conformity Assessment (MRA) was signed by Her Majesty’s Ambassador Sir Kim Darroch and Deputy United States Trade Representative C.J. Mahoney in Washington today (Thursday 14 February).

    The agreement will maintain all relevant aspects of the current EU-US MRA when the EU-US agreement ceases to apply to the UK. It helps facilitate goods trade between the two nations and means UK exporters can continue to ensure goods are compliant with technical regulations before they depart the UK, saving businesses time, money and resources. American exporters to the UK benefit in the same way.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle February 11 2019 #45318

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    Oh-hum. Yet another Brexit apocalypse prediction. Brexit bemoaners have predicted 5 of the zero post-brexit recessions. One will certainly arrive. One day. As a reminder of failed brexit predictions:

    CHAOS was predicted. Most economists believed that a recession was imminent. A government study published in the run-up to the referendum forecast that house prices would fall quickly, by up to a fifth, and that unemployment would rise by over 800,000. But growth in both 2016 and 2017 averaged around 2%, roughly similar to 2015. Furthermore, house prices are steady and unemployment has dropped to a 43-year low of 4.0%

    Andrew Cooper (Populus): Remain to win by 10 points
    Goldman Sachs: Recession by 2017
    HM Treasury: Half a million job losses
    JP Morgan: Scotland will leave the UK and get a new currency
    Robert Ward (The Economist): UKIP revival, Labour split and end of two party politics

    in reply to: Debt Rattle February 8 2019 #45273

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    Agree completely that Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is a Trump coming from what we will call the left, getting support from people who no longer expect anything from the status quo, and, as you said well, shake things up that needs shaking up. Like Trump, not everything she says makes a lot of sense but that won’t trouble her fans.

    On a lighter side, saw this, found it hilarious and can’t help sharing: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez explains stuff

    https://twitter.com/OliverMcGee/status/1092636644824428544

    in reply to: Debt Rattle February 4 2019 #45237

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    The ‘Chinese were white’ article was almost offendingly idiotic. Asians are not particularly yellow. So what? Whites are not particularly white. You might call them pink. Blacks are not very black.

    Oooh, goes the author. This is the hate-mongering of twisted racist ‘white’ minds. No it is not. Chinese, Europeans, Africans are visibly different, physically and instantly recognizable as such. Walk as a European in an Asian or African town or village, and kids (and adults) will stare at you and your weird, strange unusual skin and hair and face. You need a word to describe that body type. You could call it asian. You could call it swyziglik. Usage settled on ‘Yellow’. So what? What freaking difference does it make?

    ‘Whites’ get called all sorts of names by all sorts of people. ‘Ghosts’, toubabs, palefaces. Jimminy Cricket! There are names in all sorts of languages throughout the world for designating people of a different race? What is the world coming to?

    in reply to: Debt Rattle February 1 2019 #45134

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    I know very little about most of the Indigenous nations of North America, but in my neck of the woods (Algonquins, Montagnais, Abenakis, Mic-macs) it was basically all stone-age hunter-gatherers. Somewhat to the south-west, the Iroquois Confederacy and the Hurons were semi-nomads, doing slash and burn agriculture for maybe 10 years before depleting the soil and moving away – when they weren’t trying to genocide their neighbours, or being massacred by them..

    I would also note that the Iroquois of the Sullivan expedition were no longer the pre-European Iroquois: they had started to use tools and techniques from the Europeans.

    One last remark: the Mayan world was an advanced civilization that had a population of millions. That civilization had collapsed on its own centuries before the Europeans ever came.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 7 2019 #44749

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    zerosum,

    the only act of war is the invasion of a country by foreigners.

    Those guys are not Mexicans, they are Hondurans who are illegally in Mexico, and are trying to break into yet another country.

    Firing tear gas at them is no more an act of war than police firing tear gas at rioters, or shooting at gunmen robbing a bank.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle December 22 2018 #44494

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    Here is a reaction to that german journalist’s “Trump supporter country” piece: https://medium.com/@micheleanderson/der-spiegel-journalist-messed-with-the-wrong-small-town-d92f3e0e01a7?fbclid=IwAR3piKt5bveME82Z7YVdLWbfO_Y28zU-0WGGTxeA-r7UARGa_Yime6eSvlA

    Wondering what his Syrian refugee article was like… and what he made up.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle November 18 2018 #43911

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    Ah, deportations of illegal immigrants on airplanes. The humanity! Remember Elin Ersson, the swedish student, hero of the immigrationists, who prevented an Afghan man from being deported in an airplane? She was praised to heaven for her principled, moral stand.

    But that man had been convicted for viciously assaulting women and children. Whipping kids with electric cords. Smashing his wife’s head into the ground. He had also decided that Sweden, a country where a man cannot just beat his wife and kids, was not for him after all. So he decided to go back to Afghanistan. Willingly. He was not being forcefully deported.

    This mattered little to the no-border, no-man-is-illegal grandstanding pea-brain activist. Every criminal from every distant land has to be welcome and cuddled in our societies in which they illegally broke. Because Sweden needs every wife-beater, drug-dealer, welfare case and rapist from every third-world country. It’s in its national interest. None can be expelled. There is no moral alternative.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle November 18 2018 #43910

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    V. Arnold
    “Gaia, by definition, is an organism which strives for balance”

    For a dose of perspective, a little physics.

    Approximately 1.1 billion years from now, the Sun will be 10% brighter than it is today. This increase in luminosity will also mean an increase in heat energy, one which the Earth’s atmosphere will absorb. This will trigger a runaway greenhouse effect. Basically Earth will turn into Venus.

    In 3.5 billion years, the Sun will be 40% brighter than it is right now, which will cause the oceans to boil, the ice caps to permanently melt, and all water vapor in the atmosphere to be lost to space.

    In 5.4 billion years from now, the Sun will enter what is known as the Red Giant phase of its evolution. This will begin once all hydrogen is exhausted in the core and the inert helium ash that has built up there becomes unstable and collapses under its own weight. This will cause the core to heat up and get denser, causing the Sun to grow in size. The expanding Sun will grow large enough to encompass the orbits of Mercury, Venus, and even Earth.

    Gaia will be thoroughly roasted and in the end engulfed by the Sun. That is written into stone, in the mass of the Sun and the orbit of Gaia, known to most of us as planet Earth. Good luck with your balance, Gaia.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle November 13 2018 #43817

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    Regarding bananas…

    Sure surveillance technology is becoming ubiquitous in China. But… how is it different from anywhere in the western world?

    in reply to: Trump vs the Midterms #43725

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    Thanks, Dr. D.

    Next time I read someone dropping accusations of wanting the death of a million brown people just because you don’t think open borders are a great idea, I think I’ll blow a gasket.

    in reply to: Trump vs the Midterms #43708

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    Catching up with my TAE backlog, I have to respond to your vanishing migrant link of https://www.theautomaticearth.com/2018/11/debt-rattle-november-2-2018/ to https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-11-01/thousands-europe-bound-migrants-have-simply-vanished-ap

    “A growing number of migrants have drowned, died in deserts or fallen prey to traffickers”
    The word you’re looking for is not ‘growing’, it’s ‘dwindling’. The number of migrant deaths on the Mediterranean went down from 5096 in 2016 to 3139 in 2017, and 2018 is on a pace to fall to 2400. This is due to policies (denounced by migrant defense NGO) in Libya, Italy, Turkey, Hungary by monsters such as Salvini or Orban to stem the flow of migrants. Fewer migrants crossed, fewer died, the difficult conditions in centers for migrants could at least stop deteriorating.

    “Is that double morals or no morals at all?”
    Policies resulting in fewer deaths look like morals to me.

    ““many of those who go missing are uncounted, including boatfuls [sic] of young Tunisians or Algerians”
    Yeah, in spite of an improvement in the last couple of years, there is a warning sign flashing yellow. Spain got itself a new cuddly, left-wing, humanitarian government welcoming refugees. As you could expect, the number of migrants responding to the call has been exploding (and the number of drowned migrants with it). In February 3844 migrants arrived in Spain, 7893 in April, 13188 in June, 15416 in October. We can expect the improvements in all categories to revert, and more “young Tunisians or Algerians” to vanish. Because indeed Algeria and Tunisia are among the countries that most migrants come from, along with the neighbouring country of Morocco, and Guinea, Mali, Côte d’Ivoire. All countries admitedly poor, but not oppressing their population.

    in reply to: Trump vs the Midterms #43707

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    Dr. D

    I am with you on this. It used to be that a dollar in debt would get you 4$ in GDP growth. There were plenty of productive uses for debt back in the days. Then through the years this dollar in debt bought you 3$, then two, then one, and now there it gets you even less than that.

    Our economies are in worse shape than they appear. After years of supposed growth, pretty much all countries are still deep in deficits, and everyone only speaks of how the economy needs ever more stimulus just not to collapse.

    in reply to: Trump vs the Midterms #43706

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    OK I don’t know why I feel I have to defend pollsters, yet they were not off by much regarding Hillary-Trump 2016. They had given Hillary a slight edge, and that was what actually happened. But being off by maybe 1%, and with the distribution of votes in the odd american electoral system, Trump ended up in the White House. That fairly minor error seems light to go charging with “so wrong in 2016 they would have changed jobs” or “entire polling industry look like useless fools”

    I’ll be frank and say I actually hope republicans hang on to as many seats as they can. This is the only way we can lay to rest the Russiagate hysteria and neverending threats of impeachment. I wish the Democrats would focus on Trump’s foreign policy team of certified neocon loons, Bolton, Haley, Pompeo threatening, blustering, antagonizing pretty much everyone on planet Earth.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle September 6 2018 #42732

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    Photoshopped camera images: hmmm.

    Here is a third explanation. The images come from two different cameras, as the angle is clearly not the same in both images (they might even be not of the same corridor). And their clocks are not perfectly in synch, which is not an esoterical possibility.

    So on one hand we have a completely mundane explanation. On the other, we have secret services who decide to photoshop or create cctv images of travellers who certainly have come to England on a flight, so that they would doctor an impossible time for their arrival, in order to… what exactly? Unless the Russians come in a secret russian submarine landing and british intelligence had to cover that up because…???

    Definitely Ockham’s razor for me.

    This says nothing about the involvement of the two men in the Skripal murder.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle August 28 2018 #42606

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    In other Lesbos migrant news today:

    Greek police announced it has dismantled a criminal human trafficking network involving 30 people, members of a NGO on the island of Lesbos, a key gateway for migrants to Greece. That NGO would be ERCI (Emergency Response Centre International). 3 of the suspects have been arrested. In all, 30 people would be involved, 6 Greeks and 24 foreigners.

    https://sg.news.yahoo.com/greek-activists-held-illegally-aiding-migrants-130012215.html

    in reply to: Debt Rattle August 28 2018 #42603

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    TAE used to be a site that was concerned about the unsustainability of our western societies. Energy sources are unsustainable. Cheap fossil fuels, and their high energy returns are running out, and our economies depend on it. The financial world is a house of cards based on ever-growing, ever more unstable debts at all levels that can collapse in a moment. Globalized economies are getting unmanageably complex and fragile with their tight dependencies over intercontinental trade and supplies. They are machines that concentrate wealth in a few golden cities for a happy few while the periphery gets sucked dry. Decisions are made by unaccountable mandarins and corporate lawyers on a continental scale. Trust has evaporated. Our societies are sick from gigantism and globalization. We are due for a traumatic shock, and the only way to prepare is to get back to a human, local, sustainable, and, yes, poorer, scale.

    But the recent editorial line at TAE seems to have completely turned its back on its original philosophy. How many stories about the catastrophe that is Brexit. Woho! The idea that a country could try to somewhat disentangle itself from a continental bureaucracy and run its own affairs, taking steps towards something a little more local, in which its actual citizens have a say on the political decisions seems to send Mr. Meijer into conniptions. What about all the transnational red tape and assorted obscure trade regulations that have to be revisited? Such a thing cannot be done! UNTHINKABLE! Then we have editorials against austerity. We are not talking about governments living within their means, as in having a balanced budget, but just making attempts at not borrowing ever more money to run the ordinary expenses. I understand that spending money you don’t have feels good and that tightening your belt is unpleasant. But to me, it means coming to terms with the reality that our societies are not as rich as they think they are. Then there is the steady stream of refugee stories. Living in a western country is very expensive. Having to take care of hundreds of thousands of people who are linguistically, educationally, culturally incapable of taking care of themselves when transplanted in a radically different society requires resources that western countries simply do not have. Western countries demonstratably are already overwhelmed with the task of taking care of those that are already here. And then the stream just keeps flowing. To me, clearly, this is unsustainable and has to stop.

    So there we have the new automatic earth. Bow to free trade agreements elaborated by the Davoscracy. Once you have signed on, you are forever bound by them, you are in their grip for all eternity. The governments should pile on ever more debt and worry about paying all that back in the distant future if ever, for living in the here and now is true sustainability. But as they struggle just to keep the game going for their own population, western governments should also let in the entirety of the population of South Asia, the Middle-East, Central America and Africa that manages to come to their soil, for saying no would be mean. It would be telling people that they should try to tackle whatever problems ails their country themselves, instead of spreading the unstability to the entire planet. And we cannot have that, because advocating solving local problems locally is antithetical to the New Automatic Earth.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle August 27 2018 #42596

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    …and as a bonus track:
    Monday around 100 refugees moved to the road and blocked the highway between Athens and Lamia, creating massive chaos and traffic jams as traffic was blocked for several hours. Some of the migrants were holding sticks, attacked cars and generally acted uncontrollably.

    https://www.protothema.gr/greece/article/815926/oures-hiliometron-stin-ethniki-athinon-lamias-metanastes-ekanan-katalipsi-sto-odostroma/

    Europe is already overwhelmed and cannot get a grip on the refugees and immigrants it already has. The flow has to stop as things will only get worse.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle August 27 2018 #42592

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    Refugees going to Europe is a gigantic mistake. It is bad for them, bad for european countries. They would be much better off staying in their country of origin or nearby.

    Meanwhile in other greek migrant news:
    Nikos Moustakas was pushed off a cliff to his death in Athens. He was out for a walk with his girlfriend when they were attacked by a trio of Pakistani migrants. Locals of the Koukaki and Petralona neighbourhoods told the media that they have felt unsafe in recent years because of the criminal activity and gangs that frequent the area at night.

    Greek man living in Glasgow in horror death plunge after confronting robbers near Acropolis while on holiday

    A woman who had been kidnapped for days was found locked in the appartment of 5 migrants: 2 Morrocans, 2 Iranians and one Algerian who have been arrested.
    http://www.enikos.gr/society/583720/photo-ntokoumento-kratousan-kleidomeni-34xroni-se-diamerisma-sta-

    Thousands of inhabitants from the island of Samos march to protest building a new refugee camp on the island
    http://www.tanea.gr/news/greece/article/5586436/samos-diamartyria-gia-thn-kataskeyh-neoy-kyt-metanastwn-kai-prosfygwn/

    Huge fight between about 60 migrants from Algeria and Pakistan on Monastiraki with sticks and knives. Greeks and tourists witnessing the scene were caught up in the melee and beaten as well
    http://www.iefimerida.gr/news/409121/agria-epeisodia-metaxy-allodapon-sto-monastiraki-htypisan-kai-toyristes

    Inhabitants from the island of Lesbos protest Tsipras and the presence of 9000 migrants

    in reply to: Debt Rattle August 17 2018 #42384

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    Ever since Brexit, the unemployment rate in the UK has been steadily going down, now at 4,2%, the lowest since 1975. Employment rate keeps climbing, now at an all-time high. And this morning I finally read this article in the Guardian: https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/aug/13/companies-brexit-supply-shock-fewer-eu-citizens-arrive-uk

    Immigration figures from the EU are the lowest in 5 years. And this translates into a job market where businesses have to attract and retain employees, going so far as to, sit down for this, raise wages and offer additional benefits. Imagine my shock! The job market behaving like other markets, where an increased supply for salaried work lowers its price, and limiting the supply raises it! It’s as if limiting immigration actually benefits ordinary people rather than corporations. That cannot be true! We have been repeatedly told by all serious economists, mainstream politicians, media and humanitarians that unlimited immigration benefits everyone, period, there is no alternative.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle August 12 2018 #42296

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    In other news, the approval of Emmanuel Macron nosedived from 57% a year ago to 34% in July. Clearly idiotic French voters had no clue what they were doing in the last presidential election and we need to fix the results of the election and make Marine Le Pen president!

    in reply to: Debt Rattle August 12 2018 #42295

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    Who would have guessed? A newspaper that was always opposed to brexit publishes a study commissioned by a brexit opposition group that finagles some data and concludes we should just ignore the results of a referendum and pretend it never happened.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle August 1 2018 #42063

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    We all know Lybia is not Luxembourg, in no small part due to the actions of supposedly well-meaning humanitarians led by Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton. Yet I am not aware of any law that declares Libya unfit to receive idiots stranded out at sea on a dinghy. Could any one tell me which law it is?

    in reply to: Austerity and Mass Migration #42052

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    The mainstream left that we have in western countries is not your grandfather’s left, on that we agree. But in which country is the left the fiscal hawk and austerity champion while the mainstream right is the irresponsible spendthrift? US? UK? France? Canada? Germany? Where?

    in reply to: Austerity and Mass Migration #42040

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    @Raúl Ilargi Meijer
    “I never asserted that austerity is popular.”

    Then you have a strange way of expressing it, since you wrote:

    “a rightwing government that imposes austerity measures will be rewarded for it with more voters” and “[Britain’s Tories] knew that their austerity measures would only make their party stronger”

    in reply to: Austerity and Mass Migration #42039

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    I wrote: “The people fed up with immigration no longer vote traditional right, they vote maverick right, populist right.” to which you replied: “Eh, that’s what I said.”

    When you speak of “mass migration initiated by the right” or “If it also lets in large numbers of migrants, even more votes” or “The migration streams in Europe are supported by the right”, you’re not talking about Salvini and his Lega, Donald Trump or the Front National (I hope!). You are talking about Sarkozy, or Never Trump republicans, or John Major or David Cameron conservatives, the hypocritical mainstream rightwing that occasionally makes noise about immigration while doing nothing about it when in power. *That* rightwing is in trouble. Their gig is up. They no longer get more votes if they sit on their hands.

    in reply to: Austerity and Mass Migration #42030

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    My analysis is completely different from yours.

    The current, mainstream left (socialist parties) has since the days of Reagan/Thatcher morphed from champions of the working class to caviar left. They are no longer in touch with what used to be called the working class. Rather, they actively despise, hate the rubes. Economically, they have gone along with if not implemented the same “free trade” agreements that resulted in the deindustrialization of the West that did so much to throw the former proletariat into insecurity if not actual hard times. In addition, the left has embraced immigration from the third world that was in direct competition, not with academia or the media/culture types that now set the agenda for the “left”, but with… the working class. Not to mention that ordinary citizens have this deplorable attachment to their national culture, and are the ones who have to rub shoulders with an immigrant underclass that is often criminal, and… alien. So ordinary westerners know that they cannot expect any salvation from the left. It is pretty much on board with the economic agenda set by the right, and is not much more than a republican party with DIVERSITY! Hence, as everyone can notice, the socialist parties losing voters.

    The traditional right has undergone another, different mutation. It used to champion the Nation, traditional values, faith. It has pretty much shed all of those trappings. It celebrates the globalization of the world, the Uber-ization and Nike-ization of the economy. The traditional right might now and then make noise about limiting immigration, but whenever it is in power, and as you point out, it does absolutely nothing. It is pretty much on board with the cultural and demographic agenda set by the left, and is not much more than a socialist party with lower taxes.

    So it has dawned on ordinary citizens of the western world that NO PARTY IS ON THEIR SIDE. This is why we have witnessed the rise of populist parties (and the Trump phenom which is abhorrent to much of its own party). But the left is also seeing a split. We see in Sanders, in Corbyn, in Mélenchon a left that wants to split from, replace or take over its corporate-friendly mainstream party.

    When you say that more immigration only leads to people voting for the right, it is incorrect. The people fed up with immigration no longer vote traditional right, they vote maverick right, populist right. And wouldn’t you know it, Salvini is actually taking drastic steps to reduce uncontrolled immigration with immediate results and growing popularity – which has you writing scathing, devastatingly disapproving essays.

    Now on to austerity. No one likes austerity. Austerity is just a reminder to live within one’s means. And states’ spending has grown out of control. In part due to globalization, fiscal optimization by corporations, well-paying jobs being offshored to wherever labor is cheap and docile, revenues are down and there is a worrisome and growing fraction of the population that is not working that needs to be taken care of. Corporate tax revenues going down, expenses going up, and a plethora of new initiatives and rights and whatnot. So far government have been able to keep spending money they do not have by borrowing it and pretending everything is under control, pacifying discontents with pretend money. After now nearly 10 years of economic expansion, governments are still piling up deficits. What is going to happen if a recession hits? Contrary to what you assert, austerity is unpopular. Parties that still try to enforce a little fiscal discipline do get booted out of power, and another party voted in that brings back the punching bowl and keeps the party going. Free money! Try saying no! Won’t you have some more of this… free money? The truth is… we are poorer than we think. But we cannot bring ourselves to face reality.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle June 9 2018 #41683

    tabarnick
    Participant

    Total number of deaths on the Mediterranean were down 40% in 2017
    2016: 5143
    2017: 3116

    Numbers for 2018? 1074 deaths so far in 2018 over Italy, a fall by half over the 2185 in the same time frame in 2017 – that is because in 2017 Italy took some basic steps to discourage crossings. We can expect that number to fall a lot further since Italy has just announced it has equipped the Libyan Coast Gard with 4 ships.

    One can notice that while the number of deaths towards Italy was going down significantly, the number of death over Spain has gone up, to 293 so far this year from 118 in the same time frame in 2017. We can expect the effect of the new socialist, pro-migrant spanish government: more deaths on the sea.

    The numbers are impossible to ignore. Encourage crossings, get more drowned people. Discourage crossing: lives saved.

    https://www.iom.int/news/mediterranean-migrant-arrivals-reach-46449-2018-deaths-reach-1412

    in reply to: Gross Incompetence #41666

    tabarnick
    Participant

    BTW the painting original name is “La Vérité sortant du puits armée de son martinet pour châtier l’humanité”. She is not out to shame mankind (or peoplekind as Justin Trudeau would correct us), but to punish it, chastise it, whip in hand.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle Fourth of July 2018 #41579

    tabarnick
    Participant

    I completely agree and I deplore and condemn the social engineering operations by NATO to “liberate oppressed people” and remove dictators in Libya and Syria. Those were other disasters by well-meaning (or so the charitable explanation goes) humanitarian progressives, led by Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama. Yes, those operations generated chaos and human misery on a massive scale. But don’t conflate those operations with the general migrant problem in the Mediterranean. If you look at the countries that the migrants crossing the Mediterranean come from, Syrians or Libyans are a small minority. You got tons of people from Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia, Nigeria, Ghana, Niger, Gambia, Senegal, Congo, Mali, Côte d’Ivoire, Pakistan, Bengladesh etc. None of them is fleeing bombs on their heads. None.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle Fourth of July 2018 #41578

    tabarnick
    Participant

    Italy to offer 12 patrol boats to the Libyan Coast Guard:
    http://fr.euronews.com/2018/07/03/plus-de-moyens-pour-les-garde-cotes-libyens
    This is excellent news! From the link: “Sending back the migrants sends a clear message. It’s a waste of time and money to cross the sea. The idea that european ports are open encourages migrants to attempt crossing the Mediterranean. We are not against migration, but we are in favor of a legal immigration that would avoid suicide trips aboard rubber boats” explained Abu Ajila Abdelbari, captain of the Libyan Coast Guard

    We can now expect the number of migrants drowning, that had already fallen dramatically when, much to the chagrin of soi-disant compassionate humanitarians, prodded and poorly equipped by Italy, the Libyan Coast Guard made half-assed attempts to stop the flow of migrants, to fall further dramatically.

    The thousands of drowned migrants over the last few years could have been avoided if someone in charge had the willingness to do what common sense screamed: ignore the well-meaning but idiotic humanitarian bleeding hearts and just send a few boats to patrol the waters, and disrupt the business model of human traffickers.

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