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  • in reply to: These Clowns Are Dragging Us Into War #14932
    TheTrivium4TW
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    These people aren’t “clowns” and a disservice is done when that fake meme is proferred, IMHO.
    A Sun Tzu Art of War tactic is to “pretend inferiority.”
    If the reason this is a key Art of War tactic isn’t obvious, it is because the common people will fight an open obvious tyranny but they will stand down and if they can be convinced the vicious actions destroying their country and communities are somehow not intended.
    Not to mention the ego of the average persoon is attracted to the idea that it is more intelligent than the people running the world (who never, ever, ever lose because they are sto stupid!).
    No, the oligarch operators pretend inferiority, we manfest it.

    TheTrivium4TW
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    Hi All,
    Defining terms as exactly as possible is a requirement.
    “Wall Street” is too vague a term. There are Debt Money Monopoly assets on Wall Street and the Fed works for them. AND ONLY THEM. Everyone else, whether on Wall Street or not, is on the dinner table, NOT sitting at the dinner table.
    As for triggering defaults… SOCIETY ALREADY HAS BOUGHT INTO TOO BIG TO FAIL AND JAIL! That’s game over as the incentive for companies that CAN’T FAIL is TO MAKE EVERYONE ELSE FAIL AND ROLL THE BANKRUPTED COLLATERAL UNDER TBTF&J BALANCE SHEETS!
    When the time is right, they bust the bond market, hyperinflate match assets to liabilities and call it even after they’ve bankrupted and asset stripped most of society through prima facie debt money fraud.
    Professor, Janet knows all that and a bag of chips. And a whole lot more on top of that. Feigning stupidity and inferiority is a Sun Tzu Art of War tactic. We have to stop falling for it.
    If these people were so dumb, they wouldn’t gain power and wealth with every single “mistake” they make and society wouldn’t lose power and become more impoverished with every single “mistake” they make.
    Really – think it through all the way. They’ve flipped the coin 20 times and it keeps coming up heads. The coin has two heads… the game is rigged, the table is tilted… and they want you to think they didn’t jack you on purpose.

    They.
    Jacked.
    You.
    On.
    Purpose.
    And your loved one’s, too.

    TheTrivium4TW
    Participant

    Alan Greenspan is lying.
    If the US government can print money, THEN WHY IS IT IN DEBT PRIMARILY TO ALAN GREENSPAN’S ULTIMATE EMPLOYERS RIGHT NOW?
    Of course, he doesn’t talk about that CONTRADICTION because that would expose the con game for which he’s fronting.
    Alan spent his whol career lying about the singular Federal Reserve Mandate – a lie told so many times that most people won’t even believe the simple law as written in Section 2A of the Federal Reserve Act. The mandate is to keep credit and monetary aggregates commensurate with the economie’s long term productive potential. That’s it. What follows are the expected benefits of following the singular mandate… but since Greenspan criminally broke Section 2A for his entire career, he lies about the mandate.
    Lucky for him “laws” for the dElites don’t have any penalties, right? The “more equal than other animal” laws aren’t like Muppetry laws that actually have penalties.

    in reply to: US Picks Wrong Friends, Wrong Enemies, Wrong Fights #14535
    TheTrivium4TW
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    PLnL,

    Are you saying there isn’t Debt Money Monopoly control over the all the nations financed by the Debt Money Monopoly?

    Is there any nation acting under its own self interest from the perspective of its individual citizens?

    Isn’t the first step to pursuing a nation’s self-interest to kick private foreigners controlling their monetary system and using Debt Money to enslave the society to inextinguishable debt out of power?

    Exactly which nation is doing that?

    I view all the nations of the West as mere vassals of the Debt Money Monopoly and then all the pieces fall into place. Just remember, the Debt Money Monopoly isn’t interested in controlling everything or making their control obvious. They give and take as required to keep their con game undetected by the masses.

    in reply to: Follow The Money All The Way To The Next War #14508
    TheTrivium4TW
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    As for Bernanke and Yellen…

    “It must not be felt that these heads of the world’s chief central banks were themselves substantive powers in world finance. They were not. Rather, they were the technicians and agents of the dominant investment bankers of their own countries, who had raised them up and were perfectly capable of throwing them down.”
    ~Professor Carroll Quigley, Tragedy and Hope, Council on Foreign Relations Historian, President Bill Clinton Mentor

    WHO are the most dominant investment bankers… the Biggest of the Biggest Finance Capital crowd? The Debt Money Monopolists. WHO defined money as debt WITHOUT A VOTE in people duped into thinking they live in a “democracy?”

    At least read Chapter 19 of Tragedy and Hope
    https://real-world-news.org/bk-quigley/07.html#19

    We have to elevate our consciousness and stop focusing on the chess pieces on the so called Grand Chessboard. Rather, we need to identify the Grand Chess Master. The Grand Chess Master is the Debt Money Monopoly Cartel by definition. For if it wasn’t, then the first action of the Grand Chess Master would be to seize control of the Money Power for themselves.

    Debt Money is the modern day Trojan Horse / Art of War system of the Debt Money Monopoly Cartel.

    “If all the bank loans were paid, no one could have a bank deposit, and there would not be a dollar of coin or currency in circulation. This is a staggering thought. We are completely dependent on the commercial Banks. Someone has to borrow every dollar we have in circulation, cash or credit. If the Banks create ample synthetic money we are prosperous; if not, we starve. We are absolutely without a permanent money system. When one gets a complete grasp of the picture, the tragic absurdity of our hopeless position is almost incredible, but there it is. It is the most important subject intelligent persons can investigate and reflect upon. It is so important that our present civilization may collapse unless it becomes widely understood and the defects remedied very soon.”
    by: Robert Hemphill, Credit Manager of Federal Reserve Bank, Atlanta, Ga.
    Source: In the foreword to a book by Irving Fisher, entitled 100% Money (1935)

    in reply to: Follow The Money All The Way To The Next War #14507
    TheTrivium4TW
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    Hi Nassim,

    The Debt Money Monopoly sits atop the nation state level. They establishment will never admit this because the best way to prevent an entity from being criticized is to create an environment where most people don’t even know the entity exists!

    “When a government is dependent upon bankers for money, they and not the leaders of the government control the situation, since the hand that gives is above the hand that takes. Money has no motherland; financiers are without patriotism and without decency; their sole object is gain.”

    ~Napoleon

    I like to stick to the facts. If I conjure and lend you $20 @ 5% interest, you will owe me $21 in one year’s time due to double entry bookkeeping that addes $1 interest liability to your balance sheet and $1 interest asset to my balance. You owe me $21, you only have $20 and I HAVE TOTAL CONTROL OVER THE $1 YOU NEED TO PAY ME BACK.

    5th grade applied math proves, beyond any and all doubt, that the debt based monetary systems that our overwhelming the world are prima facie fraud.

    A “bailout” is when I conjure and lend you at $20 @5% and stick the proceeds in my corporate front pocket. As in the example above, you still owe me $21 after one year’s time even though you have no money and I CONTROL THE $21 YOU NEED TO PAY ME BACK.

    Too bad most people can’t overcome their Orwellian “crimestop”* to understand what Orwell would consider 2+2-4 and not 5.

    My approach to 911 is the same. You highlighted one example of the physical anomolies of 911.

    These are the best I’ve found – and proof the government is lying and concealing something about 911…

    What a Gravity-Driven Demolition Looks Like

    – The takeaway is that the top of the North tower never decelerated as it fell, therefore, BY DEFINITION, the top section of the building NEVER HIT THE LOWER PART OF THE BUILDING!

    WTC7: NIST Finally Admits Freefall (Part I)

    WTC7: NIST Finally Admits Freefall (Part II)

    WTC7: NIST Finally Admits Freefall (Part III)

    There is a lot more top notch evidence presented here:

    David Chandler 911
    https://www.youtube.com/user/DavidChandler911

    * Crimestop – “The faculty of stopping short, as though by instinct, at the threshold of any dangerous thought. It includes the power of not grasping analogies, of failing to perceive logical errors, of misunderstanding the simplest arguments if they are inimical to Ingsoc (representing the reigning establishment), and of being bored or repelled by any train of thought which is capable of leading in a heretical direction. In short….protective stupidity.” ~George Orwell

    in reply to: Follow The Money All The Way To The Next War #14505
    TheTrivium4TW
    Participant

    The Debt Money Monopoly Cartel. It exists. It is real. It controls the Money Power of every Western nation and it seeks to control the Money Power of every country it attacks through its nation state and other proxy armies… one by one.

    The human mind oversimplifies. The “US” doesn’t exist. I’m a US citizen and I have no power other than where I spend my money (small, local, cash and quick insight into how debt based money is a prima facie fraud). “Europe” doesn’t exist.

    What exists are lots of individuals ruled by Debt Money Monopoly state organizations led by Debt Money Monopoly financed and promoted talking heads.

    Most Americans can’t stand what the Debt Money Monopoly is doing through their financial vassal the US government – even if they cower at the thought of admitting it. Liberals who hated “Bush’s Wars” are mind controlled into accepting “Obama’s Wars.”

    Value system principles have been counterfeited by Debt Money Monopoly “teams.”

    I don’t play. I expose the Debt Money Monopoly Cartel every change I get – and they exposed themselves to all who can read honestly…

    >>The Money Power Seeks to Create a World System of Financial

    Control in Private Hands Able to Dominate Every Nation on Earth

    In addition to these pragmatic goals, the powers of financial capitalism had another far-reaching aim, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. This system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements arrived at in frequent private meetings and conferences. The apex of the system was to be the Bank for International Settlements in Basle, Switzerland, a private bank owned and controlled by the world’s central banks which were themselves private corporations. Each central bank, in the hands of men like Montagu Norman of the Bank of England, Benjamin Strong of the New York Federal Reserve Bank, Charles Rist of the Bank of France, and Hjalmar Schacht of the Reichsbank, sought to dominate its government by its ability to control Treasury loans, to manipulate foreign exchanges, to influence the level of economic activity in the country, and to influence cooperative politicians by subsequent economic rewards in the business world.<<

    ~Professor Carroll Quigley, Tragedy and Hope, Council on Foreign Relations Historian, President Bill Clinton Mentor

    https://real-world-news.org/bk-quigley/07.html#19

    Damon Vrabel, a former Wall Street Insider…

    Renaissance 2.0

    TheTrivium4TW
    Participant

    >>Ilargi, Help me understand how the debt purchased by the Federal Reserve will have to be paid back by our children. Won’t they have to be paid back by the people who created the bonds? If they default, then the Fed has a bad debt on its books. So… what? Why can’t the Fed just write off the worthless bonds it holds? Why do taxpayers have to make the Fed whole?<<

    Hi D, it all comes down to WHO HAS CONTROL. Why do we have a fraudulent debt based monetary system right now that, for over 100 years, has systematically asset stripped people of their money, their physical wealth and their liberties.

    And, in the case of millions of impoverished people… THEIR VERY LIVES!

    Fraudulently induced poverty is a Debt Money Tyrant policy objective. As Sun Tzu said, “all war is deception,” so only an epic fool would wait for those waging war against them to admit it outright.

    Understand the following words… invest extra effort if you don’t understand at first…

    The debt based monetary systems (money lent into existence at initial creation) are prima fascie frauds upon society.

    If I lend you $20 at 5% interest, in one year you owe me $21 because you accrued $1 interest that I, the lender, earned.

    You have $20, you owe me $21 AND I CONTROL THE $1 YOU MUST HAVE IN ORDER TO EXTINGUISH THE DEBT OR LOSE YOUR COLLATERAL!

    Debt Money Tyranny Graphed
    https://www.keepandshare.com/doc/4768883/debtmoneytyranny-6-1-pdf-60k?tr=77

    You are POWERLESS. I AM THE SOVEREIGN… YOU ARE SUBJUGATED – and the less you know about it, the better from their point of view.

    This is reality.

    The real question is why would the criminals who set up this system bail out the debtors when they finally have the rope tight around their neck and their object is to hang them financially and asset strip them for all they have… just like they orchestrated in the Great Depression (except maybe two or three times worse this time around)?

    “The new law will create inflation whenever the trusts want inflation. It may not do so immediately, but the trusts want a period of inflation, because all the stocks they hold have gone down… Now, if the trusts can get another period of inflation, they figure they can unload the stocks on the people at high prices during the excitement and then bring on a panic and but them back at low prices.…The people may not know it immediately, but the day of reckoning is only a few years removed.” (Congressman Charles A. Lindbergh, referring to the Federal Reserve act, Congressman Lindbergh stated this a few years prior to the stock market crash in 1929 which ushered in the Great Depression Congressional Record, Vol. 51, p. 1446. December 22, 1913.)

    “If all the bank loans were paid, no one could have a bank deposit, and there would not be a dollar of coin or currency in circulation. This is a staggering thought. We are completely dependent on the commercial Banks. Someone has to borrow every dollar we have in circulation, cash or credit. If the Banks create ample synthetic money we are prosperous; if not, we starve. We are absolutely without a permanent money system. When one gets a complete grasp of the picture, the tragic absurdity of our hopeless position is almost incredible, but there it is. It is the most important subject intelligent persons can investigate and reflect upon. It is so important that our present civilization may collapse unless it becomes widely understood and the defects remedied very soon.”
    by: Robert Hemphill, Credit Manager of Federal Reserve Bank, Atlanta, Ga.
    Source: In the foreword to a book by Irving Fisher, entitled 100% Money (1935)

    “The issue which has swept down the centuries and which will have to be fought sooner or later is the people versus the banks.”
    Lord Acton

    How to be a Crook

    Bankrupting society isn’t a bug, it is a feature.

    PS – These criminals lie about their Section 2A mandate so they could criminally break their singular mandate to keep monetary and credit aggregrates (debt) commensurate with GDP and blow the world’s largest debt bubble relative to GDP in human history…

    Weapons of Mass Debt
    https://www.keepandshare.com/doc/3324744/wmdebt-graph-3-79k?tr=77

    Note that the laws which apply to the dElite criminals DON’T HAVE PENALTIES ASSOCIATED WITH THEM.

    Go ahead and read finreg and try to find a criminal penalty in the whole thing! The criminals laugh at how stupid we are to allow them to sell us toxic trash as AAA credit and then use their bankrupt corporate fronts to borrow money they conjure out of thin air to “bail them out” while tyinig the debt associated with the bailout money around necks as they throw us overboard.

    Using a $20 example, a “bailout” is when I lend $20 into existence @ 5%, put the proceeds in my corporate front pocket and bill you for $21 at the end of the year EVEN THOUGH I KEPT ALL THE MONEY, all the while telling the sheeple I did it for their own good because they know NOTHING ABOUT HOW THE REAL WORLD ACTUALLY OPERATES… THE SUCCESS OF THE ROCKEFELLER INTEREST IMPORTED PRUSSIAN SCHOOLING SYSTEM IS INCREDIBLE!!!!

    Yeah, it is not only that bad, it is even worse, but people have to start their process of realization at some point and then build from there.

    in reply to: If We Get Even The Simplest Things Wrong .. #13768
    TheTrivium4TW
    Participant

    There is so much confusion… and that confusion leads to more confusion and prevents people from understanding what is really going on. We then become unwitting gatekeepers for those who are admittedly controlling and manipulating us into their agenda… The Money Power Agenda.

    Ben and Jerry’s money stamp campaign has a stamp that succinctly explains our situation better than I ever could… “The system is broken, it is fixed.”

    IT IS FIXED!

    Yes, children, RICH PEOPLE CONSPIRE TO CONTROL AND DIRECT SOCIETY, THAT’S WHY THEY FUND PROPAGANDA TO DISPARAGE “CONSPIRACY THEORY!”

    They want the weak minded to obey their visceral response to the Money Power propaganda programmming.

    We don’t even understand debt based money and the fifth grade math based fraudulent ramifications…

    If $20 is lent to society @ 5% interest by The Big Money Power Special Interest Club, in one year society has $20 and owes $21.

    The Money Power Club controls the $1 that is required to pay down the debt or force the nation into bankruptcy.

    And yes, every $20 lent to society has this problem – AND YOU CAN’T MAKE UP DEBT BY ADDING MORE DEBT, NO MATTER HOW MUCH MORE DEBT YOU ADD, SO QUITE MAKING EXCUSES AND EMBRACE THE 5TH GRADE MATH AND YOUR OWN BRAIN POWER.

    Here is a chart for the graqphically inclined:

    Debt Money Tyranny
    https://www.keepandshare.com/doc/4768883/debtmoneytyranny-6-1-pdf-60k?tr=77

    IF THE GOVERNMENT WERE SOVEREIGN PEOPLE, IT WOULDN’T ALLOW A PRIVATE SPECIAL INTEREST TO CONTROL THE DARN MONEY SUPPLY, LET ALONE THE VERY DEFINITION OF MONEY AS DEBT TO THESE CRIMINAL MONETARY ALCHEMISTS 2.0 (they don’t even need lead to issue debt and turn the debt recepts – money to the slave class – into solid gold).

    And yes, I’m yelling from the darn roof tops because this is the Rosetta Stone to understanding the world.

    From th eperspective of the “elites” that Zbigniew Brzezinski claims run the world, THE SYSTEM IS WORKING FANTASTICAL.

    They are TBTF&Jail. They launder trillions in drug money and are above prosecution. The bribe Jefferson County officials and steal almost $1 billion from tax payers – and they don’t get charged AND GET TO KEEP THE DARN LOOT! Their operatives steal billions from segregated accounts AND THEY ARE ABOVE THE LAW – EVEN AFTER THEY LIED TO CONGRESS UNDER OATH!

    They are eliminating the “sin” – the term Money Power Rockefeller used to define his competition… Sin is defined by Rockefeller as “competition” to the Rockefeller God Of This World, if you know what I mean.

    The monetary system is a Trojan Horse fraud.

    It is being operated by CONSPIRATORS to bankrupt society through fraud.

    PS – “Dr. Mary’s Monkey” is an excellent book and well worth the read. There is a systematic effort to lie to the Muppets… control and manipulate us… and this is admitted fact…

    “In the technotronic society the trend would seem to be towards the aggregation of the individual support of millions of uncoordinated citizens, easily within the reach of magnetic and attractive personalities exploiting the latest communications techniques to manipulate emotions and control reason.”
    ― Zbigniew Brzezinski, Between Two Ages: America’s Role in the Technetronic Era

    What’s the end goal from their own world renown historian?

    In addition to these pragmatic goals, the powers of financial capitalism had another far-reaching aim, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. This system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements arrived at in frequent private meetings and conferences. The apex of the system was to be the Bank for International Settlements in Basle, Switzerland, a private bank owned and controlled by the world’s central banks which were themselves private corporations. Each central bank, in the hands of men like Montagu Norman of the Bank of England, Benjamin Strong of the New York Federal Reserve Bank, Charles Rist of the Bank of France, and Hjalmar Schacht of the Reichsbank, sought to dominate its government by its ability to control Treasury loans, to manipulate foreign exchanges, to influence the level of economic activity in the country, and to influence cooperative politicians by subsequent economic rewards in the business world.
    ~Professor Carroll Quigley, Tragedy and Hope, Council on Foreign Relations Historian

    in reply to: EU Goes From Peacemaker To War Mongerer #13622
    TheTrivium4TW
    Participant

    Hi All,

    Deflation will not “repair” this finiancial system. The foundation of the financial system is fraudulent. The deflationary bust tactic is part of the overal societal asset and power stripping mechanism via debt money bubbles and busts strategy.

    It isn’t that we “need” deflation.

    No, WE NEED AN ENTIRELY NEW MONETARY SYSTEM WHERE MONEY IS NOT CONJURED INTO SOCIETY AS DEBT.

    This requires a change in consciousness, but the fact that I read articles on this site disinforming people that deflation is needed to correct the system’s current problems is quite disheartening.

    Ben and Jerry’s money stamp that says, “The system isn’t broken, it is fixed” is absolutely correct.

    You don’t “fix” a fixed (rigged) system, YOU THROW THE SYSTEM OUT AND START WITH A SYSTEM THAT ISN’T “FIXED” (RIGGED).

    in reply to: Debt Rattle Jun 19 2014: Growth When We Don’t Need It #13586
    TheTrivium4TW
    Participant

    The monetary system drives growth. As per my previous explanation in this thread, society always owes more money than society possesses. If more money isn’t continually added to the system, the debtors bust out real quicky and the Debt Money Tyrants would minimize the loot they can steal and they also might get outed because the con game might be identified.

    Take a debt chart and a CO2 chart and superimpose one upon the other – you will find a very tight correlation. Debt money drives the economy (until it doesn’t!!!) and the economy drives CO2.

    The banksters blew a bubble in debt – a criminal bubble, BTW (read Section 2A of the Federal Reserve Act) – and also blew a bubble in CO2. They don’t tell you that on the evening news, do they? China’s drowning in pollution, but the establishment is mum on that because they are invested over there and only want to shut down the American competition by driving up energy prices (while blowing even more energy over in China).

    Sun Tzu said “all war is deception.”

    The people want to be deceived, so our future is very, very bleak.

    Get as ready as possible.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle Jun 19 2014: Growth When We Don’t Need It #13585
    TheTrivium4TW
    Participant

    Any solutions involves the average person abhoring anything big and doing business with small, local business almost exclusively. We power the “machine” when we give our debt receipts (aka, money) to The Bigs (they don’t call them the Big Bad for nothing).

    It is literally like paying Cujo to eat us.

    He will, and he will really enjoy doing so… believing that he is “evolved” and you aren’t because only a complete moron would finance their own destruction.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle Jun 19 2014: Growth When We Don’t Need It #13584
    TheTrivium4TW
    Participant

    Diogenes, my bad for taking so long to respond to our last conversation. We are living a very similar life experience – stuck in a literal science fiction reality. In context, I totally understand your frustration – it is my frustration, too. We are definitely on the same team, but, I don’t know if that bodes well for you. 😉

    Ilargi, most people can’t handle “the why.” I keep telling them, but all I literally get is silence. For years.

    The why:

    1. We can’t think rationally because schooling was engineered by the Money Power to teach us to think irrationally. Appeal to Authority logical fallacy is the very basis of Rockefeller engineered schooling. In order to think, one has to reject the logical fallacies, do hard work and, well, be willing to deal with that which is real. It just is and it will hurt feelings. Badly.

    “We all have a tendency to think that the world must conform to our prejudices. The opposite view involves some effort of thought, and most people would die sooner than think – in fact they do so.”
    ~Bertrand Russell, Money Power Technocrat, The ABC of Relativity (1925), p. 166.

    Russell also brings out a valid point beyond our intellectual laziness and logical fallacy programming – once the fallacy has been programmed into us it become our bias. Few people have the intellectual honesty to admit they are wrong… especially the “well schooled.” They were also taught in school to be insecure. Very insecure.

    2. Any debt based monetary system is a prima fascie fraud. It astounds me to see people complain about the machinations of a rigged system when the underlying component of said system is a complete fraud. Money lent into existence is ENGINEERED TO BANKRUPT THE HOST. IT CAN DO NOTHING ELSE. It takes 5th grade math – and I’ve posted it in these comments before.

    If I lend you $20 at 5% interest, in one year you owe me $21 due to the accrual of $1 interest liability on your balance sheet and $1 interest asset on my balance sheet.

    You have $20, you owe me $21 – and I finance your government, too. Muppet.

    Remember, I also control your schooling system, so when I tell those around you how the system works in very simple, THEY STILL CAN’T UNDERSTAND A WORD I SAY. IT IS LIKE I’M SPEAKING IN A FOREIGN LANGUAGE. I’m not shouting, but I am trying to emphasize the point.

    A bailout is when I lend you $20 @ 5%, I put the proceeds into my corporate front pockets and send you a bill for $21 even though you didn’t get any of the proceed… all the while telling you that I’m doing it to save you.

    Again, I observed the effect of the Prussian schooling model and I financed its implementation across the world – I, the international financier, am so far ahead of society that they are like little babies – except that little babies have the good sense to cry when I steal their candy…

    And no, this isn’t some tyrade against Jewish people, 99.xx% of whom are victims of the biggest fraud ever foisted upon humans in the history of planet Earth. The fact so many people are irrationally obsessed with the trivial (skin color, religious affiliation) and completely avoid the relevant (content of character) is a testament to the social programming.

    BTW, have you ever asked, “is a debt based monetary system a fundemantally fraudulent system?” and written an article exploring the answer?

    If not, you really, really should.

    TheTrivium4TW
    Participant

    DS, your points are well taken.

    I take it you “get” that the very foundation of debt based money is prima fascie fraud, then. After all, you didn’t contest that assertion.

    Do you know why I like to start off with the 5th grade math proof beyond all doubt that debt based money is a fraud and a con game. It is because there is no source – it is based on 5th grade math.

    There appears to be some kind of mental block to where people can’t talk about the big, fat, fluorescent white elephant in the middle of the room.

    I noticed you side stepped it completely, as do most. I don’t sense any effort was made to do so, but it always seems to happen.

    The actions of the victims do matter. For one, casting a vote for Debt Money Bankster financed Puppet #1 or Puppet #2 and expecting different results… is insanity… and I don’t care how good the Bankster financed media layers on those sheep suits. Are you making a connection between all these entities?

    As for other things one ought to consider to resist this tyranny, as opposed to doing nothing and greasing the implimentation skids, are listed on the 2nd page of this Debt Money Tyranny PDF:

    https://www.keepandshare.com/doc/4768883/debtmoneytyranny-6-1-pdf-60k?tr=77

    The Debt Money Emperor has no clothes, yet everyone pretends that Debt Money Tyranny is a legitimate system.

    “In our time, the curse is monetary illiteracy, just as inability to read plain print was the curse of earlier centuries.”
    ― Ezra Pound

    Darn near the whole planet gets a 0% in applied 5th grade math. It is the most bizarre thing ever.

    PS – I don’t know if you talk to people and explain this stuff, but I do – face to face. Most people cower, enter cognitive denial and change nothing. The few that get it and understand mostly can’t be bothered to change their lives either. Slather more grease on the skids of evil. This opens the door to this evil. The schooled professionals are often so confused that they can’t understand the 5th grade math. Who said Rockefeller operant conditioning, aka schooling, isn’t very effective?

    Your view is that people are powerless observers… if true, they would have no power or responsibility.

    My view is that people have individual power to determine for themselves whether they want to “dance with the devil,” as it were, or make a decent effort to opt out and invest their energy and effort on the side of good.

    This empowers people, but it also means they are responsible when they don’t give a crap to make even the smallest changes in their life for the better.

    As an activist, I feel empowered. If everyone chose to do what I did, well, the tanks would already be in the streets and the time for elections would be over (the crew in charge isn’t about to walk away once their “jig is up.”).

    But, alas, they don’t. They choose to be powerless and, in essence, support the system. Lenin called these people “useful idiots.”

    My vision is for something better.

    TheTrivium4TW
    Participant

    The elephant in the middle of the room is that the monetary system itself is a fraud.

    Debt money systems are a fraud. Period.

    Money lent into existence means that society rents its money, and pays a portion of the proceeds, to people who can create debt (money) out of thin air.

    As Ben and Jerry have popularized on a money stamp, “The system isn’t broken, it is fixed.”

    Fixed as in rigged. The table is tilted.

    When society (including government) borrows $20 billion @ 5% that JP Morgan conjured out of thin air (a gig better than actualize alchemy which is limited by the amount of available lead), society will owe JP Morgan $21 billion in one year’s time.

    Since all money (save the relatively negligible coinage) has this same fundamental problem, ALL THAT IS LEFT FOR SOCIETY IS DEBT.

    That’s why…

    People are bankrupt.
    Localities are bankrupt.
    Cities are bankrupt.
    Counties are bankrupt.
    States are bankrupt.
    Nations are bankrupt.

    The wealth of the money power oligarchs IS, BY DEFINITION, THE INEXTINGUISHABLE WEALTH OF THE MASSES.

    Debt based money balances… it is a ZERO SUM GAME – even if by artifical construct.

    If you can’t vote on the very nature of your money, YOU AREN’T IN A DEMOCRACY, LET ALONE A DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC.

    You live in a Money Power controlled fascist system where the Money Power rules, not the powerless nescient / ignorant citizen.

    15,000 hours of oligarch operant conditioning in “school” is enough to make most people defend their captors and deny their anagnorisis to the bitter end.

    That denial is every bit the root cause of our current situation as the clothesless “emperors” running this criminal debt based monetary system enterprise.

    “The world is a dangerous place, not because of those who do evil but because of those who look on [in rationalized denial] and do nothing [about the root cause of the problem].” ~ Albert Einstein

    TheTrivium4TW
    Participant

    Hi All, the monetary system is a prima facie fraud upon society. I don’t know how else to put it as everyone around me pretends that it is somehow legitimate. It is fraud because our money is based on debt, meaning it isn’t our money at all, it is the lenders’ money and we rent it like the serfs of old rented the land they didn’t own, either.

    First there were land serfs then there are debt money serfs.

    Money is created through the issuance of debt and even the Bank of England has been forced to admit reality (they knew all along, they aren’t dumb, they just pretend to be per Sun Tzu’s Art of War advice).

    https://www.bankofengland.co.uk/publications/Pages/news/2014/051.aspx

    The fraud is very simple to explain. In order to suss out the fraud, we have to construct a very simple example that still conforms to reality.

    Let’s say you need $20 Trivium Reserve Notes (TRNs) for whatever reason – it really doesn’t matter. I’m the only issuer of these notes and none currently exist.

    I agree to lend you $20 TRNs @ 5% interest payable in a lump sum at the end of one year.

    Fast forward one year. You owe me $21 due to double entry bookkeeping adjustment that ads $1 interest liability to your balance sheet.

    How much money do you have?

    $20 – that’s how much I gave you and I didn’t give you any more (no inflation in this example, but you can now see why the criminals running this Debt Star operation target inflation).

    Well, now, how can you pay back a $21 debt with only $20 ever having been made available to you?

    Did I mention your house was put up as collateral on the $20 TRN loan? I’m not foreclosing on your house based on a contract you had 0% chance of fulfilling due to the fraud I perpetrated on you.

    It only works as long as the “establishment” types pretend this isn’t wholesale fraud… a monetary example of Hitler’s Big Lie mechanism working in the wild.

    A “bailout” is when I create $20 by obligating you to pay it back, with interest, and I stick the $20 proceeds into my banking corporate front pocket, all the while telling the nescient and ignorant (ignore-ant – anyone who reads this is ignorant, not nescient).

    Using the previous terms, at the end of the year you will owe me $21 and I didn’t give you jack squat while the average Muppet runs around and pretends the lies of these criminals represents their true narrative when 5th grade level math proves it is all a stinking fraud.

    This example is dead on as it scales because every $20 created suffers from the same problem (benefit if one is a criminal oligarch, they are monetary rentiers), so there is, ultimately, no way out from being tied down to inextinguishable debt.

    “It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning.”
    ~Henry Ford

    “The one aim of these financiers is world control by the creation of inextinguishable debt.”
    ~Henry Ford

    PS – Professor, only the false narrative propagandists appear to know nothing. The “man behind the curtain” made and absolute KILLING in wealth and power aggregation due to their scientifically engineered Great Depression.

    “The new law will create inflation whenever the trusts want inflation. It may not do so immediately, but the trusts want a period of inflation, because all the stocks they hold have gone down… Now, if the trusts can get another period of inflation, they figure they can unload the stocks on the people at high prices during the excitement and then bring on a panic and but them back at low prices.…The people may not know it immediately, but the day of reckoning is only a few years removed.”
    ~Congressman Charles A. Lindbergh, referring to the Federal Reserve act, Congressman Lindbergh stated this a few years prior to the stock market crash in 1929 which ushered in the Great Depression Congressional Record, Vol. 51, p. 1446. December 22, 1913.

    in reply to: The Infinite Elasticity of Credit – Redux #10847
    TheTrivium4TW
    Participant

    The key point here is that money lent into existence at interest is fraud. It is a con. It is a scam. It is, in essence, the Debt Star… which, unlike the Death Star, leaves the planet whole with the Debt Money Tyrants ruling it however they choose to rule it.

    The concept is trivial to prove.

    If I lend you $20 at 5% interest, in one year you owe me $21 due to double entery bookkeeping adjustments that add $1 interest liability to your balance sheet and $1 interest asset to my balance sheet.

    In other words, I CONTROL the ONLY RESOURCE that will pay off your debts TO ME!

    I control you – and I don’t care how much your schooling (which I financed with my ill-gotten gains, BTW) misled you about “sovereign government.”

    I’m the private international banking cartel and you the government and the rest of society excluding the internatinal banking cartel who are above the law as financiers of the Central State.

    Oh, and the kicker… a “bailout” is when I lend $20, stick the proceeds in my corporate front pocket and then you, the ultimate sucker, a bill for $21 after one year and I didn’t give you jack… AND THAT’S A FACT.

    As long as you are ignorant of these elemtental mechanism, you don’t understand the power structure of the world in which you live.

    “Renaissance 2.0 – Financial Empire” does an excellent job exposing this reality…

    The international banking cartel is waging the highest form of Sun Tzu’s Art ow War – where all war is deception, the best warriors don’t even have to fight and the victims don’t even know they are being systematically conquered.

    in reply to: QE, The Velocity of Money And Dislocated Gold #7984
    TheTrivium4TW
    Participant

    Those of you interested in a “Big Bad” part 2 time frame should take a look at the US organic GDP trend…

    US Organic GDP Trend Analysis [PDF file download]

    https://www.keepandshare.com/doc/6458432/us-organic-gdp-trend-analysis-48k?dn=y

    US organic GDP is contracting $500 billion per quarter right now.

    As you see from the chart, it is dropping like a rock since 2010 – much faster than it dropped leading into 2008.

    Biggest Finance Capital (BFC), the cabal that controls much of the world’s wealth, the mega banks and the central banks – and yes, they can move the entire bond market big when they have an agenda to do so – knows they cna’t stop the collapse of organic US GDP and so now they are creating a pretext in which to cut off the debt issuance and lead to the world Nicole so eloquently elucidates.

    I don’t think we make it 2 years out because the economy is simply too damaged to function at an annualized organic GDP contraction rate of $5 trillion – or 1/3 of the entire economy, including the results of deficit issuance.

    If you aren’t ready now, this is the incentive to get it done and get it done quickly.

    PS – no, Bernanke is under no illusion he can stop organic GDP collapse in the US – and that assumes he wants to which, which is a false assumption. Biggest Finance Capital doesn’t want paper, they want to rule the world in feudalist fashion over a bunch of hapless, impoverished, slave minded serfs… same as it every was.

    The inflation transfers the monetary wealth to Biggest Finance Capital.

    The looting transfers even more monetary wealth to BFC.

    The deflationary spike pit turns their paper into society’s real assets.

    Hyperinflation will likely be the end game, but only after the banksters own the real planet and only to balance their books after they own almost everything.

    My only wish is that this bankster Machiavellian Art of War operation was more challenging than taking candy from a baby.

    in reply to: Oil And Credit #7897
    TheTrivium4TW
    Participant

    Ken Barrows post=7624 wrote: You’re certainly right in that 97% of climatologists could be wrong.

    Please cite the study that yielded that number. Not an authority, but the study. Who was asked, who wasn’t asked, what question was asked… and anything else you deem relevant once you start thinking about where your data comes from.

    BTW, who provides a salary for someone who doesn’t believe in AGW based on the finance promotion and financing of the issue?

    Money was the control mechanism highlighted by Eisenhower in his farewell speech. Did you reach it?

    Ken Barrows post=7624 wrote: I guess you could check out folks like James Hansen or Lonnie Thompson or Jennifer Francis and determine if they are rigorously scientific in their work.

    How about posting a link where they post their source data and logic that they use to reach their conclusions? It should be simple to do. If they don’t have such a link, I suggest you consider the various reasons why they wouldn’t post their data and logic.

    Ken Barrows post=7624 wrote: I am, of course, no more than a peon but since solicited I’ll say a few words.

    Based on your response, I think you have pretty good control over your emotions and value logic and reason – so you are ahead of most, IMHO!

    Ken Barrows post=7624 wrote: From what I have seen, there were predictions of a more rapid rise in temperatures over the past 15 years. Perhaps the climatologists will adjust their models.

    I believe 100% of those establishment certified models were wrong – and all in the same direction. That kind of miss isn’t due to random chance, there is a special cause that resulted in everyone being wrong in the same direction. Just perhaps this is because the establishment finances people who tell the establishment what they want to hear. Something to consider.

    How about making the models public? Remember, the mega banks had “quants” who claimed models showing housing could keep going up for a long time – even though incomes were flat to down… but they didn’t mention that in the articles. Of course, nobody ever saw those models – because no such rational model existed. Exponential growth can’t go on the way they claimed.

    I recall vividly that the establishment reduced the number of thermometers and some claimed that the ones removed historically reported lower temperatures. This, of course, could be used to skew the data.

    Voting to exclude the sun as a significant contributor to global climate change is not science. It is politics.

    Ken Barrows post=7624 wrote: Why only focus on the surface temperature? Most of the warming has taken place in the deep oceans. Much energy is needed to melt ice. With 13 of the last 15 years in the top 15 warmest years in the record (sorry, no cite, I can be corrected), I don’t know if I am ready to say the warming has halted.

    What is your source data that shows the oceans are warming and by how much?

    The chart depicted in this article shows deep ocean temps cooling since about 2006 or so…

    Ocean-Heat-Content-Based Model By German Scientists Shows Continued Global Cooling Ahead

    https://notrickszone.com/2013/01/09/ocean-heat-content-based-model-by-german-scientists-shows-continued-global-cooling/

    Do you have data to contradict it? If the oceans are cooling and surface temperatures are cooling as anthropogenic CO2 emissions are higher than ever, what does that mean?

    How much of the temperature change was due to eliminating cooler temperature gauges?

    Ken Barrows post=7624 wrote: I think it would be interesting to actually state the GW hypothesis. Is it something like this? Emission of greenhouse gases will lead to a warming earth. What does “warming earth” mean? Should the theory have some numbers behind it?

    I admit uncertainty in the theory. No problem, you adjust the theory if observations allow. Perhaps this is unscientific, but one observation is that CO2 in the atmosphere is the highest in 4-5 million years (before humans anyway) and rising 2-3 ppm per year. I don’t know if I want to test the theory that uunlimited CO2 emissions will cause no damage.

    Are you willing for humanity, including you but excepting the criminal dElites, of course, to live in dirt huts and scavage for food in order to prevent a possibility?

    Do you know the simplest way to reduce CO2? There are two things…

    1. Stop the criminal debt bubble blowing
    2. End the international war crimes of aggression. You can’t imagine how much fuel and pollution is related to these bankster wars of aggession. Neither can I. Throw in a little depleted uranium blown up all over the planet and it is simply nasty.

    I’m all for society putting eliminating criminal debt bubbles and war criminal related CO2 emissions.

    Let’s do it! But, but, but… nobody in establishment circles talks about that – apparently a sane monetary system and a peaceful society is not part of an agenda they are willing to financially support. It is YOU AND I who are the problem, not the debt money Ponzi operators and the mass murdering war mongers.

    “In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine and the like would fit the bill. In their totality and in their interactions these phenomena do constitute a common threat which demands the solidarity of all peoples. But in designating them as the enemy, we fall into the trap about which we have already warned namely mistaking systems for causes. All these dangers are caused by human intervention and it is only through changed attitudes and behaviour that they can be overcome. The real enemy, then, is humanity itself.”
    ~”The First Global Revolution”, A Report by the Council of the Club of Rome by Alexander King and Bertrand Schneider 1991.

    Ken Barrows post=7624 wrote: As for megabanks and GW, I am not sold on a complex cap and trade scheme. As I should not appeal to authority (you make a good point), neither should you appeal to the big bad banks and where they put their cash.

    I think the fact the mega banks funnel billions into the AGW agenda when they are the main cause of CO2 emissions is relevant data that ought to be considered relevant to any discussion on AGW.

    I’m not claiming that their funding it necessarily means it is a false theory.

    I get battered from both sides… both claim their side is the truth and that there isn’t much that isn’t known.

    My view is that the system that results in temperatures across planet Earth is extremely complex and there is dramatically more to be learned than is currently known.

    IMHO, both sides are deceived.

    However, I am aware of a Big Finance Capital, the crowd that controls everything big (banks, governments, military complex, establishment institutions, etc…), agenda to gut America and I know that CO2 is tightly correlated to industrial output.

    When the bankster financed media touts the importance of CO2 reduction in America, while the mega banksters leverage dictator controlled slave labor and pollute to their heart’s desire, something is wrong – even if human activity is the main cause of temperature increases.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-22841356

    BTW, I’m all for conservation and protecting the environment. Let’s tackle the big issues first – end the criminal credit bubbles (and the industrial bubbles that it creates) and end the criminal wars of aggression.

    I’m not for the banksters creating a problem, or lying about a problem, and then gutting America in order to control America in an authoritarian manner – through their financed political puppets or otherwise.

    This isn’t a simple issue – there are complexities and subtleties to it that are never vetted in the bankster financed media.

    in reply to: Oil And Credit #7893
    TheTrivium4TW
    Participant

    Ken Barrows post=7600 wrote: Gravity,

    So, 97% of climatologists are unscientific? Anyway, we’ll know how the anthropogenic global warming hypothesis stands up soon enough. You do realize that you’re just looking at surface temperatures and not mentioning that CO2 and other greenhouse gases are rapidly warming the oceans and rapidly melting the ice, right?

    Hi Ken, can you prove they are scientific?

    Appeal to authority that can’t support its position with base data and logic is a fallacy.

    So is appeal to popularity.

    So is appeal to Goldman Sach funding. -lol-

    You do know that the biggest funders of AGW are the mega banks and they are are also the biggest the culprits? Yet, nobody blames them as the villains that they are. Why? Does the fact they have all the mega-money and only pay to get the results they want to see?

    Think about it – and read Eisenhower’s fairwell speech while that thought is in your head.

    Yes, that’s right, the credit bubble they criminally created through their control of the Federal Reserve Trojan Horse created the boom that led to the mass of CO2 put into the atmosphere.

    Reference the first two charts to see the criminal debt bubble blown by the bankster’s Federal Reserve Trojan Horse…

    https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?singlepost=3216019

    I view the system as very complex. I’m not a docrinaire either way – I don’t know how much humans impact temperature change. Nobody has shown me good evidence either way.

    I do find it a bit odd that global temperatures have flat lined as humans have dispensed more CO2 into the atmosphere than ever before, not a single model predicted that back in the 1990s.

    I also know they rigged the temperature gatheriing devices eliminating the ones that reported colder temperatures and keeping the warmer ones… with the obvious impact of reporting “temperature increases.”

    I also know that the agenda of the banksters is to de-industrialize the US to create a powerless nation of bond slaves – and cutting carbon emissions in the US while allowing the banksters to have unlimited carbon emissions in China while they leverage slave labor is exactly what they are doing.

    Obama was just in Africa telling the people there that they don’t get energy, homes are cars because “the planet will boil over.”

    This isn’t a simple issue – one way or the other. This is complex chit. When the models fail, as they demonstrably have in the last 10 years, though, it is time to rethink things a bit.

    Going back to the previous link…

    https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?singlepost=3216019

    Note that the third chart show main street’s organic growth contracting to the tune of $500 billion a quarter as Big Finance Capital, in part through their central bank corporate front operations, spike interest rates.

    In a game of cards, that would be known as a “tell.”

    We are on the precipice of something wicked.

    PS – they teach the importance of “source documents” in 3rd grade at Jesuit school. Jesuit 3rd graders know how to find reality better than 99 adults in 100.

    John Taylor Gatto and Jesuit School (24m and 40s in if the video starts at the beginning):

    in reply to: Compound Interest : Friend Or Foe? #7735
    TheTrivium4TW
    Participant

    Debunking Money – How the World Really Works… A++ Video Content

    in reply to: Compound Interest : Friend Or Foe? #7722
    TheTrivium4TW
    Participant

    Gravity, thanks for the additional insight into the fraud that is debt based money issued from nothing.

    People speak of the “business cycle,” but few know that “business cycle” is a euphemism to cover up the artificial debt based debt expansion and contraction cycle that is used to systematically asset strip people of their hard earned wealth.

    Psychopathic profit searching private interests lending debt based money from nothing is an artifical constraint imposed upon society.

    It need not be this way.

    Some good insights into this societal fraud are found in the following videos:

    Debt is not a Choice
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=juQc0rLdB-E

    How to be a Crook
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2oHbwdNcHbc

    Renaissance 2.0
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96c2wXcNA7A

    The Secret of Oz
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swkq2E8mswI

    A big crack in this debt based “matrix” is the concept that one person’s wealth is, BY DEFINITION, someone else’s inextinguishable debt.

    If the Gates Foundation possesses $10 billion in actual cash or equivalents, then someone owes $10 billion in principle in interest that is IMPOSSIBLE to pay back unless the Gates Foundation divests of the cash to pay down that debt.

    That’s right – once the debt money matrix is torn down, the Gates Foundation’s role as a Big Finance Capital bond slave corporate front is revealed for all who ahve eyes to see.

    “It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning. The one aim of these financiers is world control by the creation of inextinguishable debt.”
    ~Henry Ford

    “If all the bank loans were paid, no one could have a bank deposit,
    and there would not be a dollar of coin or currency in circulation.
    This is a staggering thought. We are completely dependent on the
    commercial Banks. Someone has to borrow every dollar we have in
    circulation, cash or credit. If the Banks create ample synthetic money
    we are prosperous; if not, we starve. We are absolutely without a
    permanent money system. When one gets a complete grasp of the picture,

    the tragic absurdity of our hopeless position is almost incredible, but
    there it is. It is the most important subject intelligent persons can
    investigate and reflect upon. It is so important that our present
    civilization may collapse unless it becomes widely understood and the
    defects remedied very soon.”
    ~Robert Hemphill
    Credit Manager of Federal Reserve Bank, Atlanta, Ga.
    In the foreword to a book by Irving Fisher, entitled 100% Money (1935)

    in reply to: Compound Interest : Friend Or Foe? #7720
    TheTrivium4TW
    Participant

    Let me restate Mr. Hickey’s argument to show the absurdity that is revealed when one understands the debt based monetary system that envelopes us.

    “Compound Interest Is Responsible For Modern Civilization”

    is a debt money pusher’s deceptive description of…

    “Money Is Responsible For Modern Civilization”

    The money definers (hint, that isn’t you or I) defined money as debt.

    One face of money is the debt receipt (bank credit, physical money excluding coinage).

    The second face of money is the compound interest bearing debt instrument which is separated from the debt so most people don’t reckon it even exists!

    Yes, “money” is literally two-faced, ina Machiavellian kind of way.

    Back to the point – Money is debt, debt accrues compound interest, therefore, money exists simultaneously to compound interest.

    Let’s fool the masses into thinking that compound interest, a banker’s societal asset stripping we dream when it comes to the origination of debt money, is responsible for the action of money. The proles won’t figure it out!

    Mr. Hickey applies to compound interest what actually is attributable to money. It is a slight of hand that not many people will be able to see, simply because they don’t understand the system. None of what he attributes to “compound interest” is actually caused by compound interes. Rather, it was caused by the presence of money. Everything he mentions could have been accomplished with debt-free money as well.

    Nothing Hickey cites would have been accomplished if it was compound interest absent the money face.

    Always be on guard for rhetoric that decieves and improperly frames an argument. Especially when it is a bankster propaganda piece.

    All economic schooled people have been trained to think about money and debt only iin terms of money already existing and present within society.

    The logic goes like this… borrow money, invest in productive asset, accrue more money than principle and interest payment – BRILLIANT!

    What about the original creation of money within society as a whole and what about its ultimate extinguishment? This is not the debt droid you are looking for… move along boys and girls.

    What they almost universally fail to consider is the ORIGINAL introduction of that money and debt into society and how society, as a whole, can or can not pay back that debt – and you can’t understand the financial mechanism that tightens around your financial neck without doing so.

    It took me 5 minutes, in the face of constant and vigorous objection, to explain this difference to a Blackrock employee with a masters degree in finance. Eventually, though, it clicked. The programming is not easy to overcome – our expectations limit our conscienceness.

    Simplifying out the unnecessary complexity that hides the blood sucking, life destroying “Waldo” is key. Let’s go over simple example that holds tight as the complexities are added back in to eventually yield what engulfs us today.

    In the following example, assume that “society” does not include the “lender class.” In reality it does. I make the distinction because these are the two classes that ultimately matter – the debt money defining class and everyone else. That you haven’t ever heard of this class distinction just might be a testament to its importance…

    “To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.”- voltaire

    You can’t critize what is never even in your consciousness.

    1. Assume $20 is lent to society at 5% interest.
    2. After one year, society owes $21 ($1 bookkeeping interest asset addes to the lender, $1 interest liability added to society).
    3. The total balance sheet matches ($21 total assets and $21 total liabilities in the society + lender class grouping). This balance means that debt doesn’t matter and doesn’t need to be tracked – or so the economists are propagandized. It does matter because the lender now possesses finance control over society.
    4. Society only has $20, but owes $21. The lender now financially controls society. It’s front corporations are now TBTF&Jail and receives bailouts, while everyone else is sold off for peanuts and power is ever more concentrated.

    Using private interests to inject debt based money into society is FRAUD. It is a criminal act that only leads to one thing – exactly what we are seeing today. A criminal financial class that is systematically assets stripping society of everything from its liberties, to its government to its homes and even its dignity. Sometimes the very life of a citizen.

    This nation state lender control dynamic inspired napoleon to observe and say…

    “When a government is dependent upon bankers for money, they and not the leaders of the government control the situation, since the hand that gives is above the hand that takes. Money has no motherland; financiers are without patriotism and without decency; their sole object is gain.”

    While a s-bit tyrant himself, he knew WHOM he was actually fighting, even if the British military was clueless.

    This process has been graphed out to make it easier to understand. it has been viewed well over 15,000 times with a typical anti-matter response. People just don’t seem to be able to grasp that their monetary system is the weapon being used by financial criminal oligarchs to consolidate their country’s wealth and impoverish it.

    Oh, and a “bailout” is when the lender creates $20, pockets it and sends the $21 bill to society, thereby, bankrupting a naive society all the more quickly.

    It is true that blowing credit bubbles based upon fractionally reserved debt money fraud does increase physical output… but only for a time.

    Then the bust cycle is implemented and, as Nicole has pointed out, the bankers tend to “get it all” because, as Napoleon pointed out, “their sole object is gain.”

    This is a Sun Tzu, “all war is deception” military campaign to conquer the world’s nations – right out in plain view, if only people can overcome their propagandized expectation cognitive “box” and do basic 5th grade math.

    Debt Money Tyranny
    https://www.keepandshare.com/doc/4768883/debtmoneytyranny-6-1-pdf-60k?tr=77

    PS – the reason that debt grows exponentially is because the system $20 can’t pay the $21 and bankruptcy would be immediate. They don’t want to steal just $20 worth of stuff, so they create another $20 at interest and off to the exponential debt growth races we go until it implodes upon itself and the bankster TBTF&Jail front corporations foreclose on your society.

    PSS – Netflix “The Queen of Versailles” to see how the banksters deal with billionaires that don’t quite understand the debt money system/power structure actually operates.

    in reply to: What Do We Want To Grow Into? #7469
    TheTrivium4TW
    Participant

    Is there an artificial constraint that forces the economy to grow in order to simply avoid collapse?

    Why yes, dear Watson, there is.

    It is debt based money and its foundation is 3rd grade math. Yes, my life is surreal knowing that 3rd grade math, weaponized with a little 5th grade exponential math, is all that is required to slay the entire planet.

    I mean, this can’t be real, can it? The plot wouldn’t sell 5 tickets in a theater.

    The private international banking cartel (PIBC) lends a nation state its money supply, say $20, at interest, say 5%.

    In one year, after the bookkeeping adjustment, society has $20, yet owes the PIBC) $21. The debt is unpayable and the whole will unwind – and the the borrow might actually figure out the fraud – “Hey Bob, how can we pay back $21 when they only gave us $20 total? Oh, Frank, don’t mind that pesky detail, they are just stupid.”

    That’s the 3rd grade math being used as the foundation to seize control of the world and turn it over to the PIBC.

    That’s the foundation.

    In order to keep this fraud going and the average person uninformed, the PIBC simple lends for $20 increments at interest, making the original $20 easy to pay off but… it also creates exponential debt growth. Exponential debt growth required exponential growth in output to cover the exponentially growing debt.

    Well, until you remember what you learned about exponential debt in the 5th grade… it is unsustainable.

    The point here is that the debt money constratin is artificial and it is imposed onto government and society by an PIBC that is, frankly, more powerful than the nation states which they dominate.

    That’s it. That’s the culprit, the root cause. A steady state economy will bankrupt the country in realtively short order and roll up monetary and, eventually, real assets under the control of the PIBC.

    If they were so stupid, they wouldn’t everything and they’d be bankrupt, right?

    Take a moment and guess the root cause of exponentially growing carbon. It probably isn’t what you think.
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    The PIBC. Credit leads production. Exponential growth in credit requires exponential growth in industry to cover the debt carrying costs and exponential growth in industry leads to exponentially growing carbon emissions.

    Yet, the mega bank / Federal Reserve duopoly never gets the blame the justly deserve. Is that because they finance the media? Think about it.

    The solution? Tax the common people and use the money to fund more debt based money production. Yes, the people causing the alleged problem promote a “solution” that will enrich themselves and further increase the alleged problem. I say elleged problem because nobody can show me any clear evidence that carbon is the main driver of AGW and recent data conflicts with the models that claimed it was the main driver. My position has been, and continues to be, that climate drivers are multi-factorial and quite complex and no model has been able to accurately predict the future, therefore, no model has been an accurate model to date. The point isn’t whether C causes AGW, rather, it is how the establishment can effectively create a false narrative and use it to hide the truth from the masses.

    Until we can think more clearly and outside the intellectual fence posts erected by the establishment, we are meat on the table… and tasty and tender meat at that.
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    Regarding quotes in posts, I like them because it adds context. However, I get that others do not like them and it is a preference thing. I also get how long quotes can interfere with my content, so I’ve decided to try and compromise – I’ll include the quotes at the end of my postings so they don’t interrupt my post’s train of thought, yet they are still available to help provide context for those who might be interested in such a thing.

    “It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning. The one aim of these financiers is world control by the creation of inextinguishable debt.”
    ~Henry Ford

    The youth who can solve the money question will do more for the world than all the professional soldiers of history.
    ~Henry Ford Sr.

    “There are two sorts of wealth-getting, as I have said; one is a part of household management, the other is retail trade: the former necessary and honorable, while that which consists in exchange is justly censured; for it is unnatural, and a mode by which men gain from one another. The most hated sort, and with the greatest reason, is usury, which makes a gain out of money itself, and not from the natural object of it. For money was intended to be used in exchange, but not to increase at interest. And this term interest, which means the birth of money from money, is applied to the breeding of money because the offspring resembles the parent. Wherefore of all modes of getting wealth this is the most unnatural.”
    ~Aristotle

    “Terrorism, War & Bankruptcy are caused by the privatization of money, issued as a debt and compounded by interest “
    ~Napoleon

    The word Usury in Hebrew is “nesek” and it means “BITING” as from a serpent. It is characterized as “devouring” in the Quran!

    “The few who can understand the system will be either so interested in its profits, or so dependent on its favours, that there will be no opposition from that class, while, on the other hand, that great body of people, mentally incapable of comprehending the tremendous advantage that Capital derives from the system, will bear its burden without complaint and, perhaps, without even suspecting that the system is inimical to their interests.”
    ~Rothschilds in letter to American banking interests

    “The Rothschilds conquered the world more thoroughly, more cunningly, and much more lastingly than all the Caesars before. It was precisely their international character that gave the Rothschild banks unique advantages over national banks and governments, and that was precisely what rulers and national parliaments should have prohibited, but did not. This remains true of international or multinational banks to this very day, and is the driving force of globalisation – the push for one-world government.”
    THE RISE OF THE ROTHSCHILDS

    “The rich rule over the poor, and the borrower is servant to the lender.” Proverbs 22.7

    in reply to: Dutch Delusion: Europe's Core, She Rots Some More #7410
    TheTrivium4TW
    Participant

    A way to view our current economy that most probably have never considered is this:

    A bank’s widget, or product, is debt. An ice cream shop sells ice cream, a tire shop sells tires, a bank sells loans (debt).

    Now, if every solution in the economy was more ice cream, which of the above would you conclude likely exerted control over the government?

    Also, and pay attention here, the legal corporate mandate to “maximize profits” can be restated thusly, “maximize the sale of banker widgets.”

    That’s right – “profits” consist of money that was created by debt issuance.

    “The Borg” is here and we all work to maximize “banker widgets” for the primary benefit of the private international banking cartel – and we don’t even know it!

    Even employees who are out to maximize their paycheck are, in essence, maximizing banker widgets because their salary was created by debt… the more salary, the more debt had to have been created, all else being equal!

    The government isn’t sovereign, by definition, for the same reason a child isn’t sovereign – s/he’s dependent on the parent for money and has to obey the parent are else his/her access to resources could be cut off by the parent who controls the money.

    Napoleon elucidated this principle quite clearly…

    “When a government is dependent upon bankers for money, they and not the leaders of the government control the situation, since the hand that gives is above the hand that takes. Money has no motherland; financiers are without patriotism and without decency; their sole object is gain.”
    ~Napoleon Bonaparte

    The Bible codified this principle thusly…

    Proverbs 22:7 – “The rich rule over the poor, and the borrower is slave to the lender.”

    Now, I’m not saying this is true simply because Solomon or Napolean said it was true, rather, it makes perfect sense.

    A sovereign nation doesn’t rely on a private international banking cartel to define its money as debt and issue the currency and credit and control its Federal Reserve front corporation (under complete, 100% private control).

    Whose interests does the Federal Reserve serve? The interests of those whom control it – isn’t this obvious? Isn’t self interest taught as something that is good? Isn’t it a foundation of Economics, right along with egocentric cost / benefit analysis?

    No sovereign nation would all Debt Money Tyranny to be inflicted upon it and no sovereign nation would allow private interests to criminally blow the world’s largest credit bubble so it could pop and destroy the economy of the country….

    Debt Money Tyranny
    https://www.keepandshare.com/doc/4768883/debtmoneytyranny-6-1-pdf-60k?tr=77

    Weaponsof Mass Debt
    https://www.keepandshare.com/doc/3324744/wmdebt-graph-3-79k?tr=77

    I provide the mechanism in chart format. I provide the law. I borrowed Denninger’s chart so the reality can be juxtaposed to the law and proven to be a criminal act.

    Why did Solomon know what almost nobody today knows, several thousands of years later with compulsory schooling?

    Anyone interested need only research John Taylor Gatto’s work and his podcasts.

    The financial oligarchs run the government, just as insider Carroll Quigley claimed they had set out to do.

    “There does exist, and has existed for a generation, an international Anglophile network. I know of the operations of this network because I have studied it for twenty years and was permitted for two years, in the early 1960’s, to examine its papers and secret records. I have no aversion to it or to most of its aims and have, for much of my life, been close to it and to many of its instruments. I have objected, both in the past and recently, to a few of its policies … but in general my chief difference of opinion is that it wishes to remain unknown, and I believe its role in history is significant enough to be known.”
    ~Carroll Quigley, Tragedy and Hope, Chapter 65

    Here is an Harvard, Princeton, Georgetown, Presidential mentor insider, claiming to have studied this group for 20 years, claiming that it is a secret organization that he thinks shouldn’t be secret. Otherwise, he’s buddies with this crowd.

    Read what he has to say, don’t just trust one quote. That’s why I posted the link to the entire 1350+ tome!

    Chapter 19 is a good place to start:

    https://real-world-news.org/bk-quigley/07.html#19

    Some selected quotes from Chapter 19…

    “In addition to these pragmatic goals, the powers of financial capitalism had another far-reaching aim, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole.”

    “It must not be felt that these heads of the world’s chief central banks were themselves substantive powers in world finance. They were not. Rather, they were the technicians and agents of the dominant investment bankers of their own countries, who had raised them up and were perfectly capable of throwing them down. The substantive financial powers of the world were in the hands of these investment bankers (also called “international” or “merchant” bankers) who remained largely behind the scenes in their own unincorporated private banks. These formed a system of international cooperation and national dominance which was more private, more powerful, and more secret than that of their agents in the central banks. This dominance of investment bankers was based on their control over the flows of credit and investment funds in their own countries and throughout the world.”

    If Bernanke has no power and the “investment bankers” had all the real power, of course the Federal Reserve will be used to benefit the interests of the “investment bankers.”

    Quigley published that in 1966.

    How accurate a statement was it? Are “investment bankers” being wiped out like everyone else when they deserve it a billion time more? No, they are being coddled and protected… by a front corporation engineered to do exactly that, according to Quigley – who says he had access to their secret documents.

    Or was it a lucky guess?

    Read it and make your own *educated* judgment.

    in reply to: Dutch Delusion: Europe's Core, She Rots Some More #7409
    TheTrivium4TW
    Participant

    On a previous article’s thread, someone posted and asked me to stop posting quotes because doing so was associated with an appeal to authority logical fallacy.

    This is a misrepresentation of the essence of an appeal to authority logical fallacy.

    If I made a claim based solely on the authority of someone based on their quote, then I’d be quilty of that fallacy.

    I don’t do that. I post text, I post data, I post charts, I explain my logic, I address all questions and engage in honest debate – even updating the terms I use when it is pointed out that my current term is insufficient to proper communication. When RE pointed out that “Debt Dollar Tyranny” was a subset of “Debt Money Tyranny,” I updated the term.

    I really like adding the quotes, on top of the plethora of the data and logic that I apply to reach my conclusions, because it shows that many of these issues are essentially timeless and not novel at all.

    When I post quotes, they are the decorative icing… not necessary, but a nice addition for beautification purposes. The cake and the main icinig are the data and logic I share that leads to my conclusions.

    Therefore, I will continue to post quotes when they are appropos to the topic at hand.

    Now, if someone has a problem with my data or logic… let’s discuss that instead of building a straw man logical fallacy about the use of quotes being necessarily related to appeal to authority logical fallacy.

    in reply to: Dutch Delusion: Europe's Core, She Rots Some More #7408
    TheTrivium4TW
    Participant

    Hi All,

    I like that folks are now going after the energy source of all that is evil… the schooling system that denies education, the endless lying and war mongering, the drug running, the money laundering, the gun running, the prison complex, the pesticide food, etc…

    All those are symptoms – the root cause needs to be identified before it can be addressed. Same with the nature of the root causes mechanisms that allow it to do what it does.

    Soome people think the Fed is “printing money” when they hand over $45 billion cashola to the mega banks and then take their $45 billion MBS at par when it is really worth $15 billion.

    That claim is true, but only temporarily. At some future point, the disparity will be recognized and the $30 billion loss will need to be paid (likely an even bigger loss by the time that point comes around).

    Warren Buffet and his overlords want the public to pay for those debts – and they don’t promote politicians on their media and finance their compaigns for nothing.

    Money is debt, by defintion, save coinage (tiny fraction of money outstanding), and this QE process merely hides this for a time.

    More money for the inner party who run the inner party debt money con artists…

    More debt for the people who don’t understand the debt money con…

    Hence, my effort to “wake people” up the inner party con.

    A picture is worth a thousand words, that’s why these documented charts are so important (feel free to print out and hand out or email to anyone who might be interested in knowing the details of how society is being defrauded):

    Debt Money Tyranny
    https://www.keepandshare.com/doc/4768883/debtmoneytyranny-6-1-pdf-60k?tr=77

    Weapons of Mass Debt
    https://www.keepandshare.com/doc/3324744/wmdebt-graph-3-79k?tr=77

    One can not “kick the can” on an exponential debt growth system forever. The system operators know this, but they won’t tell the public.

    Why? They are competing against the public for multiple claims on limited resources… and the less the public knows, the more they get for themselves.

    Think of it as “Financial Darwinism.”

    Some might find the slide presentation created by the operators of TheTwoFacesOfMoney.com of value (not everybody learns the same way):

    https://www.thetwofacesofmoney.com/index.php/Site/SlidePresentation

    in reply to: The Only Way Forward For Europe Is Splittsville #7362
    TheTrivium4TW
    Participant

    rapier post=7073 wrote: In the 1890’s the US was on a solidly metals based monetary system. At the same time wealth distribution reached its most extreme point. The so called Robber Barrons, the owners of the first great industrial enterprises, and some others, the top 10% held 90% of all assets. Now under a monetary system based upon the most ephemeral money ever conceived wealth distribution is again reaching the vast imbalance, Banana Republic level of the 1890’s. One has to look beyond the monetary system to account for extreme wealth inequality.

    Any system is doomed to be captured by the few for their own benefit. My Catholic upbringing, my faith lost but the moral and ethical foundational teachings intact, says that no system is perfect or perfectible for human are imperfect. The problem is, as is always is in any system, that we are told we must do this and that to serve the system. A system that has evolved which serves the interests of the fewest so serving it has it exactly backwards. Any system must serve the maximum number of people.

    It is not a feature of pure fiat money to serve the interests of the few just as the gold system was not designed to serve them. In either case the system has been captured to serve them and so it will ever be with any system. If justice and fairness demand the system be torn down to serve the many it will not be the design of the system which would produce that result but rather it would be the wresting of power from the few by a change.

    “Gold and money are separate things, you see. Gold is the trick mechanism by which you can control money.” — Thomas Edison, New York Times, December 6, 1921

    “It is absurd to say that our country can issue $30,000,000 in bonds and not $30,000,000 in currency. Both are promises to pay; but one promise fattens the usurer, and the other helps the people. If the currency issued by the Government were no good, then the bonds issued would be no good either. It is a terrible situation when the Government, to increase the national wealth, must go into debt and submit to ruinous interest charges at the hands of men who control the fictitious values of gold.” — Thomas Edison

    The root cause is an apathetic populace that has turned over its rulership to a small cadre of self interested people.

    When the people demand to be a chumptocracy, I put forth that the system used to enslave is of little consequence beyond timing of the enslavement.

    So, we can be chumps. How to make a nation of chumps into critical thinkers with an active intellectual self defense mechanism is, IMHO, the cause du jour. The implementation is not so obvious, though.

    The mechanism of enslavement is debt based money turbocharges with fractional reserve lending.

    1. I lend you $20 @5% interest w/ collateral.
    2. In one year, you owe me $21 (each side gets a book keeping adjustment of $1)
    3. The only way you can physically pay me back is IF I ALLOW YOU TO PAY ME BACK, OTHERWISE, I BANKRUPT YOU!
    4. I don’t want to steal $20 worth of collateral, so I fractionally reserve out $20 more at interest with the same problem, but the first $20 is easier to pay off, so I “kicked the can,” so to speak. But that creates exponential debt growth as any steady state system will require unpayable debts to be paid back and will bankrupt the host society.

    I won’t post my charts again, but if you search this thread for “debt money tyranny” and “weapons of mass debt” you will see the visual version of what I explained with words.

    The people at the top are greedy, Machiavellian criminals, but they can only get away with it because we are too greedy to bother with being involved in how our government is run… can’t be bothered… until we wake up homeless. THEN the brilliant and wise American people will wake up out of their apathy and drug induced emotional stupor.

    That’s the masses, though. Individuals are making “manning and womaning up.” I’m investigating aquaponics to see if I can implement that method to generate some food. Aquaponics and solar power might be a good off the grid combination.

    in reply to: The Only Way Forward For Europe Is Splittsville #7344
    TheTrivium4TW
    Participant

    Formerly T-Bear post=7056 wrote: Since there is obviously nothing of substance in your lengthy cut and paste cheetodust screed, it will remain unread. It is presented by a charlatan, filled with opinion, substantiated by opinions of other ignorants, and glorified by reams of self reference. It would be amusing if it weren’t so sad. Sadder still, all such rantings do is divert others from the good information provided by the site’s hosts and quality observations of qualified commentators. Everything you have ever produced here has been shite, give it a rest.

    Note to hosts: As long as this charlatan and several others are supported by this site, please understand why no further donations will be forthcoming from this quarter. How does one log out after submitting?

    More personal attacks and a boycott against me?

    That’s a first. No, not the unsubstantiate, irrational personal attacks. Rather, the boycott threat.

    Bizarro world.

    in reply to: The Only Way Forward For Europe Is Splittsville #7342
    TheTrivium4TW
    Participant

    Formerly T-Bear post=7048 wrote: @ #7047
    What a magnificent display of ignorance you have presented. Another of your long winded diatribes insisting on conspiracy, keep repeating and your comments are soon to be known as Triatribe4TWTripe. You are a waste of space and bandwidth and contribute absolutely nothing to any discussion at this site. Those subscribing to conspiracy theories are to be found almost exclusively among those whose lives are factually deficient and knowledge free, conspiracy is the only coherent part of their lives. That is what your persistent follies here announce whenever your nom-de-blog appears. Sometimes it is better to remain silent and be thought a fool rather exposing your mind and remove all doubt.

    Hi T-Bear,

    I’ve read your post looking for any kind of information or logic particulate and observed it is bereft of any substantitive content.

    It is, however, one long winded ad hominem logical fallacy. The momdern day Sophist would be ashamed at your Elephant in the China shop application of false logic. At least have the self respect to try and couch the fallacy in some kind of subtlety.

    Do you know what a logical fallacy is? If so, why did you choose to rest your whole argument upon such empty sophistry?

    Did you lack an argument of substance and were left with no choice? If not, why even argue with no foundation? Are you psychologically afraid of the idea wealth and powerful people have gamed the system at the expense of everyone else, aka, human history?

    You do know the feudal lords didn’t slave all day to make sure the peasants were well cared for, right? Right?

    I would recommend you spend some time and educate yourself on the various fallacies so your statements do not solely rely on such – you know, removing all doubt and all… coupled with projecting.

    If you take issue with anything I post, please present and share a specific piece of information or logic that you believe contradicts what I’ve put forth. I’m happy to have a discussion.

    My hypothesis is that your ad hominem logical fallacy attack was emotionally driven since there is no way logic or reason would result in what you posted. If so, do consider the following:

    You can’t convince a believer of anything; for their belief is not based on evidence, it’s based on a deep seated need to believe. [Dr. Arroway in Carl Sagan’s Contact (New York: Pocket Books, 1985]

    Search your essence to determine if you are a “true believe” that rich and powerful would never conspire to use their wealth and power to put other people at disadvantage because, if so, you will never be able to observe reality as oberseved by Adam Smith in the Wealth of Nations circa 1776.

    “People of the same trade seldom meet together, even for merriment and diversion, but the conversation ends in a conspiracy against the public, or in some contrivance to raise prices. It is impossible indeed to prevent such meetings, by any law which either could be executed, or would be consistent with liberty or justice. But though the law cannot hinder people of the same trade from sometimes assembling together, it ought to do nothing to facilitate such assemblies; much less to render them necessary.”
    Adam Smith, Wealth of Nations, Chapter X, Part II, p. 152

    Does Adam Smith exhibit stunning ignorance as well?

    Now, back to the actual data I originally posted which twisted you mind into a logical fallacy frenzy…

    Einstein defined the height of ignorance thusly…

    “Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance.”
    ~Albert Einstein

    Since you claim not be ignorant, I presume you must have investigated the source documents, source data and source logic that I originally posted.

    Please share your specific concerned with that information…

    Let me help you get started…

    The money flow of debt based money is clearly laid out in this PDF…

    https://www.keepandshare.com/doc/4768883/debtmoneytyranny-6-1-pdf-60k?tr=77

    Are you able to articulate what, specifically, you think is wrong with that money flow or the obvious conclusion that society never has enough money to pay back the money rentier class that quite literally rents a nation’s money supply to the nation?

    If that chart gives you trouble, perhaps this short 3 minute expose of debt based money will help clarify any lapses in understanding:

    Consequences of Fractional Reserve Banking 2) – Poverty – Debt is not a choice

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=juQc0rLdB-E

    Who was Carroll Quigley, for which institutions did he teach, which future President of the United States credited Quigley as one of his top two influences, along with JFK, and why, specifically, is his Magnum Opus, Tragedy and Hope, to be discredited?

    Since I quoted Chapter 19, what were your thoughts on the rest of Chapter 19? You did atleast skim it before lighting and lobbing your irrational ad hominem bomb, right?

    Or, you can just call me names, tell everyone how great and supreme you are and pretend that approach is the key to understanding the reality in which you live.

    I am trying to help you by providing source documents of high value and clearly illustrated logic. If you contest either, do explain why? Otherwise, embrace the Matrix that envelopes you…

    “The Matrix is a [debt money] system, Neo. That [debt money] system is our enemy. When you’re inside, you look around, what do you see? Businessmen, teachers, lawyers, carpenters. The very minds of people we’re trying to save, but until we do, these people are still a part of that [debt money] system and that makes them our enemy [because they can’t admit they’ve been conned by the monetary system even after they’ve been shown and can’t muster a response].

    You have to understand that most of these people are not ready to be unplugged [the pain of reality is too much to bear]. And many of them are so inert, so hopelessly dependent on the system that they will fight to protect it.

    – Morpheus

    Some Resources of Value:

    https://www.triviumeducation.com/

    https://triviumbinder.blogspot.com/

    The audio section is excellent

    https://triviumbinder.blogspot.com/p/audio-section.html

    Intro to the Ultimate History Lesson

    https://www.corbettreport.com/interview-376-richard-grove/

    The Neglected Genius of John Taylor Gatto

    https://www.unwelcomeguests.net/631_-_The_Neglected_Genius_of_John_Taylor_Gatto_%28Extended_Childhood_and_Western_Spirituality%29

    The Underground History of American Education

    https://www.johntaylorgatto.com/chapters/

    I believe I have laid down a pile of pearls before you. I DARE you to fully investigate (actually listen and read – OMG!) and try to cogently elucidate an argument that significant value and understanding is not contained therein.

    I hope you surprise me instead rolling in the mud you already irrationally tried to project my way.

    For everyone else, there is intellectual gold in them thar hills…

    in reply to: The Only Way Forward For Europe Is Splittsville #7334
    TheTrivium4TW
    Participant

    >>You know, and this is not the first time I argue the point, the EU and the euro could well have been successful<< The euro is extemely successful at what it was designed to do, which is to covertly asset strip society for the benefity of the Debt Money Tyrant class and their assets, be they human or corporate. To everyone else, Debt Money Tyranny is a prima facia fraud. Debt Money Tyranny https://www.keepandshare.com/doc/4768883/debtmoneytyranny-6-1-pdf-60k?tr=77

    This is the Trojan Horse mechanism used to enslave entire nation state, no, an entire planet.

    The Debt Star, if you will.

    A History of the World in Our Time
    By Carroll Quigley
    PART SEVEN
    Part Seven: Finance, Commercial and Business Activity: 1897-1947
    Chapter 19: Reflation and Inflation, 1897-1925

    https://real-world-news.org/bk-quigley/07.html

    We have already seen that valiant efforts were made in the period 1919-1929 to build up an international political order quite different from that which had existed in the nineteenth century. On the basis of the old order of sovereignty and international law, men attempted, without complete conviction of purpose, to build a new international order of collective security….
    p 315

    In addition to these pragmatic goals, the powers of financial capitalism had another far-reaching aim, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. The system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements arrived at in frequent meetings and conferences. The apex of the system was to be the Bank of International Settlements in Basle, Switzerland, a private bank owned and controlled by the world’s central banks, which were themselves private corporations. Each central bank, in the hands of men like Montagu Norman of the Bank of England, Benjamin Strong of the New York Federal Reserve Bank…sought to dominate its government by its ability to control Treasury loans, to manipulate foreign exchanges, to influence the level of economic activity in the country, and to influence cooperative politicians by subsequent economic rewards in the business world (p.324; emphasis added).
    p 324

    Who Remained Behind the Scenes and Operated in Secret

    It must not be felt that these heads of the world’s chief central banks were themselves substantive powers in world finance. They were not. Rather, they were the technicians and agents of the dominant investment bankers of their own countries, who had raised them up and were perfectly capable of throwing them down [confirming Bernanke is a complete sock puppet]. The substantive financial powers of the world were in the hands of these investment bankers (also called “international” or “merchant” bankers) who remained largely behind the scenes in their own unincorporated private banks. These formed a system of international cooperation and national dominance which was more private, more powerful, and more secret than that of their agents in the central banks. This dominance of investment bankers was based on their control over the flows of credit and investment funds in their own countries and throughout the world. They could dominate the financial and industrial systems of their own countries by their influence over the flow of current funds through bank loans, the discount rate, and the re-discounting of commercial debts; they could dominate governments by their control over current government loans and the play of the international exchanges. Almost all of this power was exercised by the personal influence and prestige of men who had demonstrated their ability in the past to bring off successful financial coupe, to keep their word, to remain cool in a crisis, and to share their winning opportunities with their associates. In this system the Rothschilds had been preeminent during much of the nineteenth century, but, at the end of that century, they were being replaced by J. P. Morgan whose central office was in New York, although it was always operated as if it were in London (where it had, indeed, originated as George Peabody and Company in 1838).
    p 327-329 (not sure of exact page right now)

    A very pleasant cycle of flotation, bankruptcy, flotation, bankruptcy began to be practiced by these financial capitalists. The more excessive the flotation, the greater the profits, and the more imminent the bankruptcy. The more frequent the bankruptcy, the greater the profits of reorganization and the sooner the opportunity of another excessive flotation with its accompanying profits. This excessive stage reached its highest peak only in the United States. In Europe it was achieved only in isolated cases.
    p 337

    The growth of financial capitalism made possible a centralization of world economic control and a use of this power for the direct benefit of financiers and the indirect injury of all other economic groups. This concentration of power, however, could be achieved only by using methods which planted the seeds which grew into monopoly capitalism.
    p 337

    Quigley considered himself allied with this group of “monopoly capitalists,” as he calls them. They let him in the bowels of the Council and Foreign Relations to produce this historical document.

    in reply to: Laiki Bank: Some Depositors Are More Equal Than Others #7304
    TheTrivium4TW
    Participant

    More evidence for the people who just love being conned into thinking government is anything more than a legalized, debt pushing mafia…

    Cyprus President’s Family Transferred Tens Of Millions To London Days Before Deposit Haircuts

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-03-31/cyprus-presidents-family-transferred-tens-millions-london-days-deposit-haircuts

    Nassim, how about… “neither a lender nor a borrower be?”

    I think that covers all bases.

    in reply to: The Lesson From Cyprus: Europe Is Politically Bankrupt #7245
    TheTrivium4TW
    Participant

    >>The EU, with all its 1000s of highly paid employees and its multiheaded leadership structure, time and again fails to do its overseeing job<< Oh, I think they are doing a splendid job and you are comparing their actions to the false narrative version of their jobs. Any nation state that employes Debt Money Tyranny, de fact, an agent of the said Debt Money Tyrants. Debt Money Tyranny
    https://www.keepandshare.com/doc/4768883/debtmoneytyranny-6-1-pdf-60k?tr=77

    To think that these Debt Money Tyrant enabling governments are anything other than puppets of their tyrant masters is to embrace unreality amidst the pretty obvious reality.

    Napoleon, another tyrant, got it down…

    “When a government is dependent upon bankers for money, they and not the leaders of the government control the situation, since the hand that gives is above the hand that takes. Money has no motherland; financiers are without patriotism and without decency; their sole object is gain.”
    ~Napoleon Bonaparte

    Yes, it *is* that simple.

    And yes, conspiracies exist and Adam Smith even wrote how cherished they are in Wealth of Nations (just because they didn’t teach this in school doesn’t mean it isn’t real!)

    “People of the same trade seldom meet together, even for merriment and diversion, but the conversation ends in a conspiracy against the public, or in some contrivance to raise prices.”
    ~ Adam Smith

    Of course the rich and powerful are actively conspiring to rig the system against the common person – that’s a summation of human history since the dawn of humankind.

    They aren’t dumb or stupid, they treat us like we are dumb or stupid.

    in reply to: Bank Run in Cyprus; Who's Next? #7228
    TheTrivium4TW
    Participant

    jal post=6938 wrote: The banks never had 28 billion euros of the russian money sitting in the banks.

    It was lent to the Greeks.

    jal, it is a giant money laundering scheme, isn’t it?

    The mega banks get the cashola from the busted banks and the German pension funds are put on the line to eventually default so the Germans eat the losses.

    These banksters will aim their media at the different nation states and then get the ignorati all worked up for war without ever realizing they are being manipulated by Biggest Finance Capital – the Debt Money Tyrants.

    The solution is the Trivium mental self defense.

    The problem is explained by John Taylor Gatto’s body of work.

    in reply to: Bank Run in Cyprus; Who's Next? #7223
    TheTrivium4TW
    Participant

    Hi All,

    Its seems that most have missed the most important thing we can be doing while the Debt Money Tyrants run theiri beta test on Cyprus – analyze the mechanisms used to defraud the people of their Zombie Money.

    1. It looks like people who hold bonds aren’t being asked to take a haircut.
    2. If someone has bonds linked to their bank account, how can one go about getting access to the money? Is their bond money locked up, too – even if they aren’t asking for a haircut?
    3. Does Cyprus have credit unions that don’t leverage their deposits? Are they shut down as well?

    We really need someone with boots on the ground to sift through the details of the Biggest Finance Capital tactic to achieve their ultimate strategy of ruling the world through an abstract (to most), at least temporarily, anyway, mega corporate structure.

    Also, this is excellent data and analysis by Denninger…

    The Failure Of Debt-Leveraged Faux “Growth”

    https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=219086

    While he doesn’t know it, he’s applying the Trivium method – he’s gathering the relevant data, he’s applying logic to it and identifying contradictions and fallacies in order to remove them. Finally, he’s communicatiing the results of his research in a way that’s pretty easy to understand.

    The problem is that very few people understand this intellectual self defense technique, a mental anti-virus if you will, and so they are led to believe that the unreal (the false narrative) is real.

    This cognitive tool set was purposefully removed when the education system was turned into the schooling system because it is such a powerful tool. Research John Taylor Gatto podcasts and Youtube videos to fill in the details with source documents and analysis.

    Easily deceived people will be run into the ditch regardless of any other circumstance, the distinction is the time frame.

    The Trivium For The Win.

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    The enemy is easy to identify – it is Biggest Finance Capital defined as the people who define money as debt and control the debt based monetary systems that are prima facia fraud.

    It works like this…

    Debt Money Tyranny

    https://www.keepandshare.com/doc/4768883/debtmoneytyranny-6-1-pdf-60k?tr=77

    I think the most accurate paradigm is to view Biggest Finance Capital as the Grand Chess Master and the various establishment structures (Biggest Finance Capital financed structures) as pieces on the Grand Chess Board.

    You can blame the knight or the rook when they take one of your “pieces,” but it really was the Grand Chess Master who is responsible, not the Grand Chess Board piece.

    I keep banging this drum because people don’t seem to be able to “get it.” We know who the enemy is. Napoleon identified the enemy over 100 years ago!

    “When a government is dependent upon bankers for money, they and not the leaders of the government control the situation, since the hand that gives is above the hand that takes. Money has no motherland; financiers are without patriotism and without decency; their sole object is gain.”
    ~ Napoleon Bonaparte

    The Grand Chess Board pieces of Biggest Finance Capital are easy to identify – they are anything and everything super big.

    There may be a few exceptions, but not many.

    The effects of Debt Money Tyranny are becoming real to the average citizen.

    One point – did the Cyprus government bond holders also take a hair cut as well or just the bank deposits?

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    Re: Lazy vs corrupt media…

    An astute commentor on Zerohedge made a point that resonated with me.

    Grillo is NOT a clown. Rather, Grillo IS a comedian.

    Comedians often tackle real issues and present them in a funny way.

    If the media used the word “comedian,” well, the people might want to know more about his comedy.

    But a clown, well, they are just goofy with no message at all, so there is no reason to look deeper.

    Now, I’m well aware this kind of suggestion only works on the portion of society that is in an establishment trance. Unfortunately, that portion of the population is well over 50%. They don’t write articles to appeal to people like most here that know the criminals fund the very media that tries to spin the news for their paymasters.

    They write it for people who believe we are in a recovery. And it is effective, which is why they are running the show and so many other criminals are not running the show.

    Lazy reporters would have called Grillow what he actually was – a comedian.

    Machiavellian psy-op masters would never settle for laziness.

    “In the technotronic society the trend would seem to be towards the aggregation of the individual support of millions of uncoordinated citizens, easily within the reach of magnetic and attractive personalities exploiting the latest communications techniques to manipulate emotions and control reason.”
    – Zbigniew Brzezinski, Between Two Ages: America’s Role in the Technetronic Era

    It is easier to kill a million people… Zbigniew Brzezinski
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkCEOSgLRt4

    Who is the “they,” of which he speaks, that seeks to control people.

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    gurusid post=6814 wrote:
    The only ‘national’ policy you need is to let the locals get on with it, but of course that would mean the death of the beast, and I doubt it will go without a fight…

    L,
    Sid.

    “In our time, the curse is monetary illiteracy, just as inability to read plain print was the curse of earlier centuries.”
    – Ezra Pound

    Forbes exposing the 1.6 billion DHS bullets removes all doubt – they are gearing up for a fight when the physical asset stripping phase of Debt Money begins in earnest.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/ralphbenko/2013/03/11/1-6-billion-rounds-of-ammo-for-homeland-security-its-time-for-a-national-conversation/

    Forbes wants their readers to think DHS is bureaucrats are simply stupid and the 1.6 billion (really 2.0+ billion now) is just an “accident.” The OWNERS and FINANCIERS of Forbes wouldn’t finance lies to protect self interest and deceive their victims, would they?

    It’s all an illusury fraud, people… when money is defined as debt, growth = more debt = more impoverishment and the monetary wealth of one is the inextinguishable debt of everyone else.

    https://www.keepandshare.com/doc/4768883/debtmoneytyranny-6-1-pdf-60k?tr=77

    The Gates Foundation is quite literally a neo-slave master. Their monetary wealth is everyone else’s unpayable debt requiriing them to slave away to pay interest on that debt with no societal hope of ever paying down that debt unless the Gates Foundation gives everyone holding the debt that created it the money to pay it back.

    That’s pretty slick of the modern day slave drivers… everyone thinks they are “charitable” simply because they don’t have clue one how the monetary system actually works!

    It is not a mistake, it is an Art of War, war is all about deception, societal conquering operation.

    “In our time, the curse is monetary illiteracy, just as inability to read plain print was the curse of earlier centuries.”
    – Ezra Pound

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    jal post=6806 wrote:
    During the roman empire the slaves revolted and almost got Rome.

    The bankers won that battle.

    Slaves got slaughtered.

    But that was ahrd work. It is so much better to trick your prey to turn over the keys to their home believing that they are the bad guys…

    How to be a Crook

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2oHbwdNcHbc

    This video is quite well done, IMHO, as it provides a good context before exposing the criminal syndicate that installed the debt money fractional reserve Trojan Horse system across the world.

    The first that happens when “the West,” which has been hijacked by Biggest Finance Capital powers, overthrows a country not already under Debt Money Tyranny, they set up a central bank and install the Debt Money Tyranny Trojan Horse.

    jal post=6806 wrote: The slaves in Haiti revolted and won.

    The bankers are saying you made your bed and we are going to make sure that you lie in it.

    Haiti didn’t win, they just aren’t worth the effort yet. Maybe they banksters will mop them up later. Or not.

    jal post=6806 wrote:
    What about Cuba? They have been fighting the bankers for 50 years.

    Kennedy was the only person that stopped LL Lemnitzer and the Joint Chiefs of the hijacked American military from run implementing their false flag operation to invade and conquer Cuba.

    Operation Northwoods – read it!

    https://archive.org/details/OperationNorthwoods

    “(11) Sink ship near harbor entrance. Conduct funerals
    for mock-victims (may be lieu of (10)).”

    The hijacked US military would pretend Castro sunk a ship and pretend that this action murdered people.

    “3b. We could blow up a drone (unmanned) vessel anywhere in the Cuban waters. We could arrange to cause such Incident in the vicinity of Havana or Santiago as a spectacular result of Cuban attack from t^ie air or sea, or both. The presence of Cuban planes or ships merely Invefs^gating the intent of the vessel could be fairly compelling evidence that the ship was taken “under attack. The nearness to Havana or Santiago would add credibility especially to those people that might
    have heard the blast or have seen the fire. The US could follow up with an air/sea rescue operation covered by US fighters to “evacuate” remaining members of the non-existent crew. Casualty lists In US newspapers would cause a helpfull wave of national indignation,”

    Blow up a drone, pretend to kill people, use the Vichy media to fool the people with Goebbles style propaganda.

    “9bb. On one such flight, a pre -briefed pilot would fly tail-end Charley at considerable Interval between aircraft. mxie near the Cuban Island this pilot would broadcast that he had been junked by MIGs and was going down. No other calls would be made. The pilot would then fly directly
    west at extremely low altitude and land at a secure base, an Eslln auxiliary. The aircraft would be met by the proper people, quickly stored and given a xTew tail number. The pilot who had performed the mission under ‘an alias, would resume his proper identity and return to his normal place of business. The pilot and aircraft would then have
    disappeared.

    G. At precisely the same time that the aircraft was presumably shot down a submarine or small surface craft would disburse F-iOl parts, parachute, etc., at approximately 15 to 20 miles off the Cuban coast and depart. The pilots returning to Homestead would have a true story as far as they knew. Search ships and aircraft could be dispatched and parts of aircraft found.”

    Read the rest of the document – you can be proud that your government was already fully hijacked and criminal back in the 1960s.

    For those that don’t know, Lemnitzer’s false flag ways were so coveted by NATO that they hired him to head their organization. Lemnitzer led the way in the effort to morph Operation Northwoods into Operation Gladio… the effort for the establishment to murder whomever they pleased, preferrably children far removed politics, in order to manipulate and control the populations of Europe.

    Back in America, Northwoods went live in the Gulf of Tonkin (America was never attacked!) and the USS Liberty once Kennedy had been removed as veto vote.

    jal post=6806 wrote:
    Then lets look at the accomplishments of some of the powerful and influential people that knew “THE SCORE”.
    Napoleon Bonaparte
    Robert Hemphill
    Henry Ford
    and many more

    “In our time, the curse is monetary illiteracy, just as inability to read plain print was the curse of earlier centuries.”
    -Ezra Pound

    “The bankers will favor a course of special legislation to increase their power…They will never cease to ask for more, …so long as there is more that can be wrung from the toiling masses of the American People…The struggle with this money power has been going on from the beginning of the history of this country.”
    ~Peter Cooper, open letter to President Grant, June 1, 1877.

    “Gentlemen! I too have been a close observer of the doings of the Bank of the United States. I have had men watching you for a long time, and am convinced that you have used the funds of the bank to speculate in the breadstuffs of the country. When you won, you divided the profits amongst you, and when you lost, you charged it to the bank. You tell me that if I take the deposits from the bank and annul its charter I shall ruin ten thousand families. That may be true, gentlemen, but that is your sin! Should I let you go on, you will ruin fifty thousand families, and that would be my sin! You are a den of vipers and thieves. I have determined to rout you out, and by the Eternal, (bringing his fist down on the table) I will rout you out!”
    ~From the original minutes of the Philadelphia committee of citizens sent to meet with President Jackson (February 1834), according to Andrew Jackson and the Bank of the United States (1928) by Stan V. Henkels – online PDF

    “The bank, Mr. Van Buren, is trying to kill me, but I will kill it.”
    ~Said to Martin Van Buren (1832-07-08) and quoted in The Autobiography of Martin Van Buren, published in Annual Report of the American Historical Association for the Year 1918, vol. II (1920), ed. John Clement Fitzpatrick, ch. XLIII (p. 625)
    Referring to the Second Bank of the United States

    “All the perplexities, confusions, and distresses in America arise, not from defects in their constitution or confederation, not from a want of honor or virtue, so much as from downright ignorance of the nature of coin, credit, and circulation.”
    ~ John Adams, letter to Thomas Jefferson (1787-08-25), The Works of John Adams

    “This institution (privately-owned central banks) is one of the most deadly hostility against the principles of our Constitution…suppose a series of emergencies should occur…an institution like this…in a critical moment might overthrow the government.”
    ~Thomas Jefferson, December 1803 letter to Treasury Secretary, Albert Gallatin.

    “We say in our platform that we believe that the right to coin and issue money is a function of government. We believe it. We believe that it is a part of sovereignty, and can no more with safety be delegated to private individuals than we could afford to delegate to private individuals the power to make penal statutes or levy taxes…Those who are opposed to this proposition tell us that the issue of paper money is a function of the bank, and that the government ought to go out of the banking business. I stand with Jefferson rather than with them, and tell them, as he did, that the issue of money is a function of government, and that the banks ought to go out of the governing business… When we have restored the money of the Constitution, all other reform will be possible, but until this is done there is no other reform that can be accomplished.”
    ~William Jennings Bryan, Cross of Gold Speech, 1896. https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Cross_of_Gold_Speech .

    “The real menace of our republic is this invisible government which like a giant octopus sprawls its slimy length over city, state and nation. Like the octopus of real life, it operates under cover of a self created screen….At the head of this octopus are the Rockefeller Standard Oil interests and a small group of powerful banking houses generally referred to as international bankers. The little coterie of powerful international bankers virtually run the United States government for their own selfish purposes. They practically control both political parties.”
    ~New York City Mayor John F. Hylan, 1922. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Hylan

    “The real truth of the matter is, as you and I know, that a financial element in the larger centers has owned the Government ever since the days of Andrew Jackson — and I am not wholly excepting the Administration of W.W. (Woodrow Wilson). The country is going through a repetition of Jackson’s fight with the Bank of the United States — only on a far bigger and broader basis.”
    ~ Franklin Roosevelt, letter to Col. Edward Mandell House (21 November 1933); as quoted in F.D.R.: His Personal Letters, 1928-1945, edited by Elliott Roosevelt (New York: Duell, Sloan and Pearce, 1950), pg. 373.

    “The depression was the calculated ‘shearing’ of the public by the World Money powers, triggered by the planned sudden shortage of supply of call money in the New York money market….The One World Government leaders and their ever close bankers have now acquired full control of the money and credit machinery of the U.S. via the creation of the privately owned Federal Reserve Bank.”
    ~Curtis Dall (FDR’s son-in-law), My Exploited Father-in-Law, 1967.

    jal post=6806 wrote:
    NOTHING CHANGED.

    This is true. No matter how I run this problem through my head, every single solution has an educated and active contained within it.

    “If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be.”
    ~Thomas Jefferson

    We are an ignorant nation. We don’t even know the pre-requisites to knowing something. We don’t even know to look for contradictions and fallacies.

    The solution was identified in ancient times by the likes Pythagorus and implemented by Socrates, Plato and Aristotle.

    The Trivium are the first three of the classical liberating arts (making the mind free instead of enslaved to establishment “authority”) and they were scrubbed from the Prussian education system that became the model for America. The Prussian goal was to generate servants to authority – so if an authority figure told you to kill people, you would.

    The Milgram Experiment – 65% were ready to kill a person based on monetary payment and the approval of “authority.”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_experiment

    Most people have no idea who The Big Bad is – to be clear it is the Biggest Finance Capital international banking cartel that inflicts fraudulent Debt/Fractional Reserve Money Tyranny to nation states.

    It is the multinational banking/corporation OWNER CLASS and they believe themselves to be supranation – above the nation states.

    jal post=6806 wrote:
    KNOWING WHAT IS HAPPENING AND CHANGING WHAT IS HAPPENING IS NOT THAT EASY.

    Those who control the printing press have the advantage.

    Which is, of course, why they use the proceeds of their societal asset stripping to seize control of the major media.

    They then sell the idea that the central bankers and politicians are misguided as they gut the world of civil liberties and monetary and real physical wealth.

    The international banking cartel will be the ultimate authority over the boot that lands upon your neck.

    There are ways to fight back, but people who don’t know how to systematically think and evaluate informations are doomed to being “useful idiots,” as Stalin called them.

    The Trivium is key to learn how to learn – the secret withheld from the schooling/conditioning systems today.

    https://www.unpluggedmom.com/category/blog/education-transformation/edu-methods/trivium-methods/

    (start listening form the bottom)

    People then need to learn the monetary system is a societal theft mechanism from the ground up:

    Debt Money Tyranny

    https://www.keepandshare.com/doc/4768883/debtmoneytyranny-6-1-pdf-60k?tr=77

    This has been downloaded about 10,000 times and only about 10 people have replied to it directly. This is key information presented in a way I’ve never seen it presented and people can’t seem to muster a response to it.

    They also need to understand who the enemy is – Sun Tzu made that clear thousands of years ago. WHO set up this fraudulent monetary system and WHO caused the economic collapse that will destroy the futures, if not lives, of billions of people?

    The people who created the bubble always create the bust, for bust always follows bubble like night follows day.

    Solutions every day people can make are included on the second page. Pay cash, shop local, buy from small shops, avoid big shops, gain control over the necessities of life, build community, spread the word, identify the criminals so that the criminals won’t deceive the masses and stay in power to continue their wicked evil ways – the sophistication of their evil doesn’t make it any less evil.

    You can do all you can to prepare for life in Jeffrey Dahmer’s basement, but at some point you need to identify and get rid of Jeffrey Dahmer or you will likely end up eaten. This is a truth that TAE is not yet comfortable delivering, but I will. It is also a truth that will, in some cases distract from TAE’s overall message because the masses can’t think clearly enough to rationally analyze and understand the world in which they live and to identify the methodologies of the current top dog human predator class. Most will have to lose a pound of flesh, or more, before they are even willing to consider it.

    Weapons of Mass Debt

    https://www.keepandshare.com/doc/3324744/wmdebt-graph-3-79k?tr=77

    Spead the word. Copy those documents and hand them out – but make sure you fully understand the magnitude of them first.

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    autoearthadmin post=6804 wrote: But after reading through the lazy sloppy “journalism” in the international press in the days following the elections, it was obvious that wouldn’t have been sufficient anymore. Hardly anyone seems to know who Beppe Grillo is, and more importantly, they don’t seem to care. In their minds, because everybody else does it, they are fine calling him a clown, a dictator and (Italian paper Gazetta Del Sud) a “foul-mouthed rabble rouser”. Much easier, because it doesn’t require any research.

    Hi Ilargi, I don’t think lazy, sloppy, easy or lack of research has anything to do with it.

    “…the J.P. Morgan [banking] interests…. and their subsidiary organizations got together 12 men high up in the newspaper world and employed them to select the most influential newspapers in the United States and sufficient number of them to control generally the policy of the daily press of the US…. They found it was only necessary to purchase the control of 25 of the greatest papers. …an editor was furnished for each paper to properly supervise and edit information….”
    –Congressman Oscar Callaway statements were included in the Congressional Record (vol. 54, February 9, 1917, p. 2947)

    When one acts as rent seeker on the money supply, one defines themselves into the Highest Bidder category.

    The best way not to get bad press is to identify the key press outlets and buy them up. That way, the stories you want run get run and the stories you don’t want run don’t get run.

    The “media” is fake – there is no legal obligation for the media to tell you the truth.

    Unsettling Accounts
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZkDikRLQrw

    If Monsanto is able to control Fox News in this manner, how much more are Monsanto’s financiers, scratch that, nation state financiers, are able to control the international media?

    Sometimes the truth gets out, though, because not everyone is a bought and paid for high up editor who understands their role. When Dylan Ratigan called for bankers to go jail for their crimes, he was gone from his lead position on prime time CNBS Fast Money within a week.

    Cenk Uyger found himself not selling the false narrative up to financial establishment expectations and this video tells the story of how he was 1. Offered more money to say a lot less and 2. Let go.

    Cenk Leaves MSNBC (Inside Story)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5x7o0sNrulg

    The establishment media has essentially sold their “for profit” soul to Biggest Finance Capital because they know if they bite the only free cash flow hand left, they won’t get “fed.”

    The media isn’t lazy or uninformed, they are hired character assassins as guilty of treason as the Vichy French.

    Grillo is the victim of a massive logical fallacy attack – in this case ad hoominem. They don’t ever want to address the issues he brought up in his 1998 show, so they attack him personally.

    Anyone schooled in the Trivium portion of the classical liberating arts will pick this up right away – like second nature. My guess is the logical fallacies keep on a coming – expect straw men attacks, appeal to authority attacks, etc…

    Learn the fallacies, people – the reason these fallacies were codified is because sophists were trained in the logical fallacy arts in order to DECEIVE people. If you don’t know the fallacies then you could easily fall victim to one.

    One caveat: the absolute best version of appeal to authority is when a corrupt authority is running an appeal to authority logical fallacy.

    For example, when Ben Bernanke, a legitimate authority on the the Federal Reserve System, claims a dual mandate, he’s lying. The reason he gets away with the lie is because people rely on his authority (appeal to authority) instead of actually read Section 2A of the Federal Reserve Act itself (the source document and a higher authority than Ben Bernanke).

    Weapons of Mass Debt
    https://www.keepandshare.com/doc/3324744/wmdebt-graph-3-79k?tr=77

    Why would Bernanke play the role of sophist and use appeal to authority logical fallacy in order to deceive his audience?

    Because he’s an establishment criminal who broke the singular mandate and uses the “dual mandate” to fool people so they don’t realize the Fed broke the black letter law and blew the world’s largest credit bubble in human history.

    If you can’t independently verify something and have to simply rely on the word of an authority, it is an appeal to authority logical fallacy because you can’t exclude the fact the “authority” may well be corrupt and using logical fallacy as a weapon of deception.

    The people are on the chessboard. The establishment opposes the people and the chessmaster is Biggest Finance Capital or, as Geeorge Carlin referred to them, The Owners.

    At the very top is the small cabal of people who define money and lend money to the nation states. If you want to know where the world is being directed, learn the value system of this cabal of people.

    A good start would be reviewing the documentary “The Corporation.”

    https://www.youtube.com/user/machbar

    This documentary compares the legal corporate structure to the clinical definition of a psychopath (I think sociopath is a better description).

    I would put forth for consideration the idea that this cabal that defines money as debt and loans it to the world created the legal corporate structure in their own image – they are profit making sociopaths.

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