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  • in reply to: Debt Rattle February 1 2020 #53307
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    Bosco: You’re not going to be around forever. Really need to plant a mulberry tree or something for crowlings. Anywhere in the neighborhood flight range.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle February 1 2020 #53306
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    Wu-tang flu may be running against the number of available tests. Think of it: Every day we need say, 10,000 pathogen test kits. Then one day we need 10,000,000. You got a factory for that? Oh and the supply chains feeding that factory are broken. Good luck!

    Yet another fact we don’t have: is everyone we want getting tested or are tests themselves in shortage? If so, the “confirmed” number is in shortage. So we could have 200,000 infected but because it’s the flu, they didn’t even know it. Then the 250 death is nothing. If it’s actually 10k, then the rate is stable at 2%, which isn’t terrible, but annoyingly high. And if a guy flies into Chicago or Seattle and picks up his own car home, meh. But a person walking around the L train in NYC from Kennedy? Crap. We’ll know shortly. …Unless our tests and gloves come from China too, like the thoughtless dummies we often are. Remember kids: It’s racist not to outsource all your critical infrastructure!

    Note they’re getting in trouble now for the disease being visible a month earlier, in mid-December. If so, is that a death rate far lower, or unrecognized and higher?

    “The president’s approval ratings hover in the low to mid-40s,”

    Because: media, is this not essentially the same as Obama’s and many Presidents before? Look at it this way: two party system makes top approval 50%. Really we have 30%L, 30%R and 30%C uncaring/undecided. So he has 30% of his party plus roughly half the independents, like everyone. Okay, looked at another way: the approval of both the Media (BBC) and Congress is under 15%, you know, below cockroaches and bedbugs but above Avanetti. So he’s multiples more popular than either of you. Will he win? The only thing holding back the Democrats is themselves. Unfortunately they don’t seem in the mood to present a winning candidate. They’ve basically said they will investigate and impeach Trump again immediately. We’ll see how that goes over with the electorate, but I think an increasing number of the 30% uncaring will go to the polls just to punch them in the face and shut them up. That’s a rather American thing to do, to run a sick-of-it, you-need-a-good-lesson vote, but we’ve had it what, 5 times, including Obama’s “hope and change” then Bernie, then Trump, because they won’t learn the lesson. We don’t mind punching them some more. We’re Americans, we relish it, love punching for any plausible reason, and as Captain America says, “I can keep this up all day.”

    “here is no evidence indicating that Biden engaged in any kind of misconduct in Ukraine”

    OMGAYFKM. Stop! This is why the punching begins. On the media as much as the elections. This is where they overplay. We know he’s dirty: he’s a politician. We’re immune to it. But to claim there is NOTHING, not a teensy-weensie bit? That’s just insulting, punching us, gaslighting us, and that’s just no respect as the Mafia would say. You can’t be treated like a punk: that HAS to be met with a take-down or you lose all credibility. They run elections for 50 years with paid experts: how can they not know this?

    “Trump are “scared to death I’ll be the nominee”.

    Well that’s never been said. In fact, he said he was worried about Bernie. But compare this to Joe’s long list of quotes shoving voters, insulting them, and telling them not to vote for him. Even the Independent(?) asked “Is Biden really running?” And maybe not. He may just be dodging interrogation and jail. I mean, it was election tampering, as confirmed by the Ukrainian Parliament and the ex-head of Poland, plus tens of millions foreign aid recycled back to his people/DNC campaign for more election rigging. I don’t even need subpoena power to prove that.

    “As of today, Bernie Sanders looks like one of the better, if not best, bets for the nomination.”

    Yes, and that’s great if he’s the honest heart of the Democratic Party, but it’s not a position that will take the moderate/Independents in the general. As weird reasons we still mirror each other, like Corbyn in the U.K. just ran this very election. No one noticed. The Left said, “Ha! See? We won!” –Speechless– Ok honey, you won. Now go sit in the corner out of government and watch cartoons while Daddy works, okay?

    Hillary Clinton Blames Bernie Sanders For Disunity In Democratic Party (WE)”

    Hey, has anybody thought that his geriatric election IS Bernie’s revenge on HRC? ‘Cause boy it sure seems to be, and it’s Hillaryous. She’s now losing –again– to a Bernie that’s even WORSE than last time, older, heart-attack, flip-flopping and all. They still hate her more than him, and it drives her crazy.

    “DNC Members Discuss Rules Change to Stop Sanders at Convention (Pol.)”

    Okay, here’s the only possible worse choice for them to take. So they take it. Slow learners. But Americans are happy to give them another ‘lesson’ at the polls.

    Billionaire Bloomberg just bought the @DNC”

    Sadly, that may be true, as apparently that’s what they’re up to in VA: Bloomberg literally, openly bought them all by funding every campaign, and set a policy that will get thousands on both sides killed. #Winning. But the real question is: Why’s it for sale? If you had firm principles, that wouldn’t be possible.

    “Democrats Announce New Debate Rules Likely to Allow Bloomberg to Join”

    Continuing: so they change rules to erase Gabbard and Yang, –then Bernie– then change rules to force-add Bloomberg. Question: why have rules? Clearly this is a dictatorship of some sort, with no rules at all but “what I say so.” …Trust me, this will not go well with us. Tulsi or even Pete could win if force-run with the media, as usual, using Bloomberg’s appropriate, winning ads. Nope. Anything but that. RussiaRussiaRussia. OMB.

    “The FBI Has Been Lying About Seth Rich (Craig Murray)”

    What? You mean a DNC IT guy was NOT shot for no reason, in a non-robbery, the day after the leak and the Mayor and head of DNC got up and went to the hospital to see him at 3am, AND the guys who did it got shot AND all the police tapes got lost before Wikileaks put out a reward and BOTH Kim.com and the Ambassador suggested the leak was him? Color me surprised. The FBI lying, I mean. Here’s homework: is there any case the FBI has been involved in where they DIDN’T lie? Whitey Bulgar, MLK, Steven Hatfill, the whole meth-smoking FBI lab, blah blah etc going back to J. Edgar and…well, literally everyone.

    Lying? In America? Surely you jest. Anyhoo, yeah, they’re in trouble. But repeat after me: Nobody got arrested.

    “Flynn Prosecution Exposed as Massive FBI and DOJ Abuse of Power (NYP)” Uh-huh.

    Hey, where are those 302’s? Like Comey, they made them up out of personal recollection months later, when it was convenient — oh, and then swapped whose was whose. Okay, well you’re fired for that, OR you’re fired for lying. Take your pick. But? “No one was fired, no one was arrested, no one went to jail.” You know, except all of us citizens, of course. We got to jail for burning cloth or painting our house the wrong color.

    “conspiring to help President Trump win re-election”

    Speaking of lies, I have never heard anything so preposterous in my life. Facebook is probably coordinating with CNN, who is run by RussiaRussiaRussia because we all know they both run 99% pro-Conservative, pro-Trump stories all day. Oh wait: Columbia U. research showed it was the #OppositeLand. If only he were senile, but unfortunately, he’s insane. You know: like all his friends. But, when you reminisce about working with the Nazis to turn in fellow Jews as being the best times of your life, well… But it’s anti-Semitic to criticize a guy who works with Nazis to gas Jews. #OppositeLand much?

    He got elected because he ran the single best digital ad campaign I’ve ever seen”

    Also false. He didn’t screw up the campaign, sure, but this digital army were volunteer chats and meme-creators who did it for fun, and not even for the election. They can’t understand the concept of people not being controlled, working like minions on orders. Warren’s online Meme-army was the example: she wrote a handbook, issued by Harvard, about how memes work, what they should mean, and telling people exactly how they should create memes for her. Um, Liz? That’s not how comedy works. Or life.

    Mark Zuckerberg says Facebook will stand up for principles like free expression and encryption”

    Wow. Can it GET any deeper in here? Start with the obvious: Apple has back-door keys, so they already have no encryption, the NSA is still reading all. Apple just provides the fig leaf that it exists, to keep you talking and wiretapped. FB is hardly even that clever. Free speech? They erase everyone every day, even the anti-war left, Jimmy Dore, trans people, so… His plan was to offload that to a hand-picked 3rd party that would accidentally agree with him, corporate fascism, and his (CIA) side of the government in every regard, then say “See? 9 out of 10 hand-picked minions agree, and we’re busy out back shooting the 10th one, so…” Please, please make it stop. I can stand the authoritarian statism, been nothing but all my life, but the lies, you must stop the lies.

    Look, if you want to torture me, spank me, lick me, do it. But if this poetry s–t continues just shoot me now please.” –Tank Girl

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 31 2020 #53305
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    WES: That was a sad thing. I have no idea what’s up with Canadians lately. Distracted? Disconnected? Maybe they have the rural-urban disorder on steroids, and makes sense: if things are pretty good in T’ronto, must be good in St. Johns’, amirite? They’re not. They were strong on community, and that seems all but missing lately. But I’m not there and the disorder seems quite subtle.

    But electing a Minister-in-blackface? Are you kidding me? And Virginia too, no less. Is which side of the aisle ironic or expected here, it’s always the opposite in history.

    Zero: I don’t know about that. It seems a genuine mystery that there is so little trauma afterwards for the Plague or the Spanish Flu. I’ve looked because it seems illogical. I think like war, when it’s a shared experience its somehow digested far better than being alone, in chemo, where only one friend drops by. That is hard to take. When everybody does it, everybody understands. And sadly, there is generally benefits for wars, pandemics, etc, AFTER, like the Renaissance-Middle Class was. So therefore the psychopaths at the tops say, “Why wait? If it’s so good, like market collapses I organize and short, why not CAUSE this wonderful effects AND kill a bunch of people and repossess their wealth? It’s only logical.” Rules for Radicals. Why, you lunatic? Because we’re HUMAN and that’s not what HUMANS do. We keep the sick, the weak, the elderly alive for NO logical reason, but for a HUMAN reason. Because we have a conscience, something you wouldn’t understand.

    That may be the anti-ant pheromone. We’re a mixed bunch: body-mind, trapped here where mind or spirit will get you killed and we do it anyway. Why?

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 30 2020 #53268
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    I have often wondered. Say, you’re a smart fella’, so how’s a smart fella’ like you not realize that when you make guns, the guns get used, when you make bombs, the bombs get used, and when you make bioweapons?

    And you’re a smart fella’, you don’t need this job. Why not go work somewheres else?

    Nope! Tech’ing the science tech since 1818! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frankenstein Same results every time. But you know Science™: when every experiment ever run fails, this time it’ll be different!

    Wish they were less smart and more wise. Or at least less hyperactive.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 31 2020 #53265
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    That didn’t take long: an hour? Assassination attempt on “The Donald” at Mar Lago.

    That is just non-peachy. So expected.

    Didn’t happen/not related/nothing to see here.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 31 2020 #53253
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    You know, for a nation that wants war every time, every where, especially against Russia…

    “EU Army Ambitions Crushed as German Troops Forced to Use their Own Cars in War Drills”
    “RT News said only about one-fifth of Puma infantry fighting vehicles were operational in mid-2019, which is one of the top reasons why combat troops had to use non-military vehicles for transportation during drills.”

    Probably too busy shooting the eyes out of French women. On the plus side, here’s a nation that actually IS holding bake sales to fund its military while providing health care to all, so…#Winning. Priorities.

    Brexit is now going to blow a far bigger hole into that budget, though. And what was that? Britain would collapse, Pound would vanish, Cats and Dogs living together, mass hysteria if they left? Yes, just like HAVING the vote, just like WINNING the vote, just like WINNING the PM, just like having the NEXT vote, just like setting the date, …nothing has happened. It was all lies, totally fake, made up, scary nonsense to make you submit to losing your nation and laws.

    Okay, we’ll see what happens, but so far, every thing the Remainers and Labour has said has been 100% untrue. Will anyone ever notice? Will it ever matter? Probably not. Facts have no purpose here, only feelings. And I feel like if I give up more jobs, more power, import more poor, illiterate people, and paid higher taxes, only then would we get rich. It’s obvious. #Truthiness.

    “Ambassador Warns that Trump Will Put US Firms First in UK Trade Talks (G.)”

    And Europe is so bad it’s STILL better than the E.U. At least they won’t be bankrupted, starved, and sold to China like Greece.

    Here’s a telling headline: “U.S. Peace Plan Gives Israel All It Wants, which Could Be the Worst Thing for It” O Rly?

    So you’re saying that giving Israel all they wanted has backfired, just like giving them a decapitating Iranian strike has? Funny that. And it was brokered by compromised idiot son Kushner, which keeps him happily out of the way? And oh wait: isn’t Trump a racist Nazi that hates Israel and Jews like his daughter and son-in-law? #Facts Citizen of #Oppositeland

    Chinese people in Italy have been the target of racist abuse”

    So, people from China have a Chinese virus, and it’s “racist” to say that people from the center of the outbreak are more likely to have it than people from Iceland or Genoa? “Racism: 1: a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race” I don’t see anything about “primary determinants” or “inherent superiority” in that someone got the flu. But “The Guardian”; so unable to use a dictionary as well as google.

    How about if the outbreak is in Texas, we look at Texans? Is that too hard? A: yes. Because it is #Logic, my arch ‘enemy of the state.’

    his account of Trump asserting that $391 million in military aid would be withheld until Ukraine announced investigations”

    Meanwhile, Bolton received $100,000 from a Ukrainian oligarch when it all started. Still reminiscing of sending him to outer Mongolia though. That was hilarious.

    Welcome to the Trump Recession (Ind.)”

    Don’t quit your day job and become a journalist, Independent. There’s nothing like a recession going on, nor one hovering. We’re just flatlined same as the last 20 years, and maybe 1-2% off the mat, or possibly just a shift of 1-2% from coastal cities to non-blessed areas. Possible? Sure. The economy is a zero with a fabricated stock market. But anything out there, especially as they indicate, present-tense? Not that I can find. Hopes and Dreams, man. Like everything, we make it up, say it, and hope it happens for us. When it always, always doesn’t, we are never discredited and just make up some more. Like Krugman and Bernanke.

    Government and Media Are Prepping America for a Failed 2020 Election (Webb)

    They’re on that Civil War as Bernie organizers promised, and hopefully a race war, as kept artificially boiling since the 70s, and attempted now to force open fighting in controlled Virginia. Don’t see it though. Look at the self-control exhibited by the gun owners there, compared to the ridiculous and unsupportable acts of Richmond. What will happen is they’ll just get rolled over and lose the election, hard as it is to take being socked in the teeth each day and not respond except legally and with overwhelming restraint. Not too different with the constantly-attempted race war. Race relations are actually improving, Trump’s approval is increasing, blacks as example with Kanye are getting more conservative, and not coincidentally as interracial marriage, households, children, etc, rise each year. None of that will be reported – ever, they’ll die a thousand deaths before it leaves their lips – so you can’t see it unless you live here.

    That simulation, organized and run by the Israeli-American company Cybereason,”

    Sort of like that Bill Gates simulation, eh? Amazing how many simulations then immediately appear in real life. Like I said, though, this cannot happen unless one side owns the government, and the other side is armed and steadfast. They don’t own the government, and double for being totally, almost hilariously divided amongst themselves.

    The first U.S. transmission, in Chicago, sounds hazardous until you realize the gal came home and kissed her husband: of course he got it. And did he die, or get the sniffles? He’s still alive so far, so…

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 30 2020 #53209
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    Civil War? Virginia just had their little armed discussion with an enormous number of fully- armed citizens 10x more than needed to overrun the State.

    “Roger-dodger loud and clear. We hear you. So we are going to DOUBLE the number of gun laws, AND outlaw criticizing anyone in Richmond, AND have any case against anyone we bring be held in Richmond instead of “by a jury of your peers”. So going after the 1st, 2nd, and i dunno, 4th? Amendments now? Sigh. Okey-dokey.

    The thing of moving ALL trials to Richmond so we can get a hanging judge and jury is ominous, totally 3rd world. As much as this:
    VA
    The Seal of the State of Virginia. Thus to all Tyrants. How we’ve fallen.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 30 2020 #53197
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    “The Choice is Now Between Witnesses and Dictatorship (Turley)”

    They’ve pointed out that the House was supposed to collect evidence, establish witnesses and refer to the Senate trial. They’ve failed to do any of that, including choosing a specific legal crime, much less a ‘High” crime. I have to admit that’s a compelling argument. If they didn’t want witnesses and evidence before, why would we add them now? I think this DOES happen in court, but in the movies where someone happens to find the missing person or the smoking gun and puts the trial in disarray as they struggle to add evidence later.

    And dictatorship? Words have meanings: use them some time. So dictators usually obey all court orders, send all legislation through parliament, stop if it doesn’t pass, tolerate impeachment and removals meekly and without so much as counter-arresting, counter-impeaching, much less calling the generals and having mass arrests of resisting officials? I think that may be the opposite of every tick on the checklist for “dictator”. “Dic·ta·tor /ˈdikˌtādər/ a ruler with total power over a country, typically one who has obtained control by force”. Laughably lacking total power, and lacking control by force of any kind, and arguably much of any control at all as the executive refuses direct orders every day, and he cannot even fire insubordinate Ambassadors or reverse executive orders. But I’m sure if we don’t call ONE witness, all that will change and suddenly everyone will slavishly obey Cheeto-in-Chief, you know, ‘cause: reasons!

    …As if Americans obey anybody, ever. Talk about arguments “absurd”

    Actually, in a world of lies and madness I appreciate Dershowitz’s argument that you’re SUPPOSED to use “Abuse of Power”… but as a POLITICAL accusation, to win elections. It’s tradition. Go ahead, knock yourself out, it’s free speech, make your case, win your contest. …However, it is not a specific legal crime and has been hurled against 45 Presidents in a row, including George Washington, so it can’t be a legitimate standard. Seemed more compelling than Schiff’s “Orange Man is Bad, RussiaRussiaRussia.” Okay, great Adam: where and when? This is your case. Evidence please? “Adam Schiff just argued on the Senate floor that House Democrats can’t possibly be expected to prove their case” Because they, he, has no evidence, apparently? He’s not just the prosecutor, he’s the House manager who gathered the evidence and forced the vote. But now YOU, the chief gatherer-of-ecvidence find you have no evidence? The evidence you were supposed to have long before now as your job and your homework? Sorry, sir, I cannot help you now.

    White House Told Bolton His Book Contains ‘TOP SECRET’ Information (ZH)”

    Surprise to no one, media reported by this that Trump “attacked” Bolton. By telling him some things were still classified and would need to be reviewed. As is done 100% of the time. And is his required job to say. I guess Government officials doing their job really WOULD be news, wouldn’t it? And making them follow the rules in a time of universal failure really IS an attack! I mean, why single out this poor guy when no one else follows laws?

    Bolton also called Trump’s communications with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky “warm and cordial,”

    Just like the House and the delayed foreign aid, Bolton was so disturbed by Trump, he told no one and reported nothing. He had no objections and filed no complaints. Then he went on T.V. in full support. Sounds serious! Who can stand such villainy? And all America loves John Bolton. We are breathless on his every word and trust him implicitly.

    Ukraine Investigates Ex-President Poroshenko over Embezzlement (RT)”

    They’re Slavs so nothing they say or do can ever matter to the Ubermench in the media and DNC. Even when they have official reviews, official statements, and start new investigations into Joe. That’s all “unproven” “not suggested” as if they don’t exist. Those silly slavs! They’re not like real people, they are just children who must be guided and told by their betters. White Swede’s burden, who will graciously tell them what to do.

    in reply to: 2019-nCOV #53193
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    Readers to Armstrong on Wuhan:

    “#1: Lots of work at a BSL-4 lab actually takes place at a BSL-2 level. CDC and Chinese officials have pointed out that BSL-2 protocols are completely inadequate for 2019-nCoV.
    #2: BSL-4 (and any serious study of both virii and bacterial agents) requires both incubations as well as “test subjects”. These can (and often do) bite…or at least escape from cages.
    There is a good Lancet article on the Wuhan origins. Again, having worked in BSL related to study for infectious agents, the Lancet overview of infections and also knowing Chinese “culture” there are a couple of salient points:

    #1 Gloves. If BSL-2 protocols were not sufficient and yet lots of tests were being run there….Gloves got contaminated. For the lab – no problems, just toss them out – but for any poor person picking through the garbage and suddenly finding a “treasure trove” of “hardly used” gloves…Well. I’ve been to these markets and the sellers all wore gloves…
    The massive spike of infected people going to some random market suddenly got an incredible boost as a disease vector.”

    Again, this goes back to my line of embarrassment and they knew, as the U.S. knows, or well enough, but also WHY are they developing a disease of this nature? Well, obviously to kill a lot of people. Random people? It has no natural containment like a time-limit, so why make such a thing unless you want to kill everyone, yourself included? Maybe John Day knows. Ah, humans. Why ask why?

    “compared to 1918, they have developed much more sophisticated models to do that, aided greatly by computing power.”

    Except that anyone who knows computers knows they are always wrong and only compound human error faster. …Look at 30 years of dead-wrong climate computing, still accepted as reasonable and not discredited, neither by method nor the Agencies and Universities that failed always. If I predicted the Cincinnati Bengals would win the Superbowl 30 years in a row in new and interesting ways, could I not get discredited, at least some day? Anyway, yes, if you ‘garbage in’ alarming parameters, you get alarming results. If you ‘garbage in’ moderate parameters, you get moderate results. Big surprise. I can do that without computers. If Hopkins put in better parameters, they would find 99.9% of humanity would die in 96 hours. …But since humans are just making this up using pretty colors on a computer, that concoction wouldn’t sound plausible and newsworthy. In reality the extreme events are predicted constantly, daily almost, but are rare. That’s what makes them “extreme.” Because decade after decade they don’t happen. No one notices. What did Einstein say ‘the real human tragedy was that people do not understand statistics”? Or was it compounding interest?

    For predictions, yes, pandemics occur with climate change, specifically cooling periods. That correlates to unrest and shaky governments. But that’s a 200+ year cycle, so you won’t get the year nor probably even the style. Spanish Flu was unusual as far as I can tell. It happened only once and struck the young and healthy particularly. Plague would be more usual, returning over and over for even decades, but we have selection bias that 1918 is closer and the most recent, and generally Western, I think. Just like we think the next GFC will be 1929, which it wasn’t in ’08 and won’t be now. Like they thought the next war would involve horses and dreadnaughts, which it didn’t. Making predictions is hard, especially about the future. Will it happen? Yes, someday. I’d bet when we’re a lot more run down than now.

    Cancelling flights and massive semis of food, supplies, and support that Charles Smith pointed out only REQUIRES Wuhan to slip through quarantine and go home. They’re not going to sit around and get killed, especially by senseless unemployment and starvation. There are limits and they are pretty sloppy and low. They’re lauded by the WHO for being draconian, of course, instead of hearing from Napoleon who said, “Do you know what amazes me more than anything else? The impotence of force to organize anything.” Socialists never learn. Voluntary cooperation is the only way. If China and the WHO are so great, why is the virus everywhere on earth already? Lauding your success at keeping it off of Antarctica? But when you call failing in computer models for decades a success, why not call a total failure to contain – or even identify patients — a success?

    “My agency wants money and power, and my friends’ agencies want more money and power.” There, fixed it.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 29 2020 #53155
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    @ WES was the answer.

    You are correct: 6,000 / 130 = 0.02 which is how to express 2%.

    2% of 6B = 120M. If I can only math correctly this time.

    What we don’t know is the alternative, that 300,000 people have it because how would you test more than 6k unsymptomatic people? Then the numbers shift magnitudes again.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 29 2020 #53147
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    Your tunnel vision reminds me of the old monks who would read scrolls by the light of a single incense stick. The ember lights up one Kanji at a time before passing into darkness.

    KG

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 29 2020 #53146
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    https://www.zerohedge.com/health/man-behind-global-coronavirus-pandemic

    Posting for this job in Wuhan last month:

    “Dr. Peng Zhou (周鹏), Ph.D., a researcher at the Wuhan Institute of Virology and Leader of the Bat Virus Infection and Immunization Group. Some more on Zhou’s background from the Institute (google translated):
    He received his PhD in Wuhan Virus Research Institute in 2010 and has worked on bat virus and immunology in Australia and Singapore. In 2009 , he took the lead in starting the research on the immune mechanism of bat long-term carrying and transmitting virus in the world. So far, he has published more than 30 SCI articles, including the first and corresponding author’s Nature , Cell Host Microbe and PNAS . At present, research on bat virus and immunology is continuing, and it has received support from the National “You Qing” Fund, the pilot project of the Chinese Academy of Sciences, and the major project of the Ministry of Science and Technology.
    Below is a list of several recent papers published by Dr. Zhou
    • Dampened STING-Dependent Interferon Activation in Bats
    • Fatal swine acute diarrhoea syndrome caused by an HKU2-related coronavirus of bat origin
    • IFNAR2-dependent gene expression profile induced by IFN-α in Pteropus alecto bat cells and impact of IFNAR2 knockout on virus infection
    • Immunogenicity of the spike glycoprotein of Bat SARS-like coronavirus
    • Bat severe acute respiratory syndrome-like coronavirus ORF3b homologues display different interferon antagonist activities”

    But that is a total coincidence and is not suspicious at all.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 29 2020 #53145
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    Am I wrong or is 132 of 6,000 (known) cases 0.02% death rate? I think given the choice, you should jump at Corona instead of contracting the common cold. So what’s driving this still?
    Is it “Harvard Chemistry Chair & Two Chinese Nationals Arrested For Lying About China Ties, Smuggling “Biological Material” ?

    https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/harvard-chemistry-chair-2-chinese-nationals-arrested-lying-about-china-ties-smuggling

    So as we saw, Bill Gates foundation has Coronavirus test, a month or so later, Corona smuggled from Harvard/Canada to China and caught. 30 days later, a real corona just like the two in question accidentally and coincidentally runs the Corona epidemic as tested. Huh. Funny ol’ world.

    Next: so far as anyone can prove, Wuhan is not dangerous. So…we have China, with labs, testing such things, doesn’t want to be embarrassed when it comes out they not only were doing it, but exposes/pressures their thousands of compromised ‘agent’ types, in Harvard and in Feinstein’s office? Now that makes some sense at least. U.S. services say “You broke it, you buy it: clean it up quick or we’ll start talking.” China starts taking drastic – and somewhat weird — actions. The real, dangerous corona is forestalled, and the excuse to crash the economy (instead of pointing at runaway compounding interest) is a squib. Nice try though.

    Following yesterday’s gloves, also note there are 3-4 sizes. And possibly latex v. nitrile. So at 200/box x 4 sizes, I think you’ll find 100,000 gloves would be average in the smallest hospital known, and possibly no more than one shipping container. But hey! Journalists asking questions? Nevah! Give me any big number that sounds exciting and I’ll print it.

    British Airways Suspends All Direct Flights to and from Mainland China (BBC)”

    At the same time – and I hate to bring this up – AOC was at a Bernie campaign and said Bernie signed on to 100% open borders, erasing the departments, no border guards at all. No door, No wall, No one testing, no one stamping passports, NOTHING. And Bernie is the DNC front-runner, which kind of makes it official party policy. So everyone from Wuhan is fully, totally welcome to fly to Nebraska, buy a house, re-align the census and Congress, elect our politicians, and we won’t even know.

    …I can NOT see how that is a winning campaign. Who are they talking to? I mean, they were campaigning IN MEXICO the other month, but surely they still think there are SOME existing citizens who go to the polls. …No clue.

    Anyway: Vote YES! to Wuhan. Open borders! Import some today! Bad timing, man.

    “It would be interesting to conduct a secret ballot asking members of Congress — and indeed, members of the media — to confide whether they actually read the report.”

    Don’t be ridiculous, everyone knows Congress and the Media are illiterate. They didn’t issue a comic book, so…

    unlikely horse trade of a witness like former National Security Adviser John Bolton for Hunter Biden.”

    This could not possibly be more foreseen and expected. If they fall for this trap, I don’t know what to say. Weren’t the other 500 traps since ’16 a warning? Even this minute, Kelly is out there saying “Oh golly! Don’t throw Bolton in the briar patch! Anything but Bolton who we salted with fake intel, to get Hunter under oath! Ow, ow!” YGTBKM.

    Trump and Netanyahu Dictate Terms of Palestinian Surrender (IC)”

    Since Gaza is the world’s largest open-air concentration camp, forgive me if I don’t like the plan to make more.

    Israel Will Now Officially Become an Apartheid State (Lauria)

    Yes, and the most officially racist state on earth. You must be proud. Maybe it’s better for it to be open and official though, so we can stop 50 years of idiotic denials. Not just racist, but violent and theocratic, like their good pal Saudi Arabia.

    shipping weapons to Kiev would effectively amount to the US turning its back on Ukrainian”

    So apparently if you ship arms you’re Russian, and if you DON’T ship arms, you’re Russian. If you help, you’re Russian and if you leave you’re Russian. If you break treaties you’re Russian and if you make treaties you’re Russian. Newsflash: You’re Russian! RussiaRussiaRussia! Who knew a nation the size of New Jersey was running the U.S. and setting elections worldwide! If only Karl Rove and John Podesta could access this technology that controls all minds, all matter, all nations on earth! Who knew a mere $10,000 could throw every election into disarray? If only I’d racked a credit card and taken over the world myself! Cleverly, they’ve surrounded themselves with U.S. nukes and military bases! No one will suspect when they finally push their own button and nuke themselves from Belarus! Hahaha! Then they’ll see!

    …Don’t worry, it doesn’t matter what I say, or how illogical it is, it is still believed without the slightest hesitation. That’s what happens when in your religion, logic is your arch-enemy. The crazier it is, the more counterproductive, the better they like it.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 28 2020 #53098
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    Even more appropriate questions from Smith:
    https://www.oftwominds.com/blogjan20/questions-coronavirus1-20.html

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 28 2020 #53097
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    40 days later they estimate possibly 200,000 “have” it. If it has anything like 3:1 transmission ratio, this would be required. Yet 2,000 have had a test and prove it. Death toll at 100, as statistically close to zero as possible. So statistically, 2,000 deaths / 365 = 5 deaths per day getting hit by lightning = 220 people, twice as likely as Kung-flu, officially.

    NYC has 40,000 health care workers who need gloves Lord knows, 5x a day? 110,000 gloves is a Tuesday. Sounds impressive unless you ask a single question. It’s journalists, so we’re safe.

    “The wildcard is not the fatality rate, but how infectious the Wuhan virus is.”

    Yeah, because if it doesn’t kill anyone, it’s not going to be that interesting. Right now you could slip in the shower while choking on a hot dog and still survive corona. The economic effects of a panic you yourself invented out of whole cloth? Why did you do that? Or are there 5,000 dead bodies somewhere?

    “the USA can get on with other business.”

    Hurling complete bull-pucky has been our top business since the 1650s. Gold on the beaches of Virginia, fish jump into the boats. Why stop now?

    A US lawyer has called on Prince Andrew to “stop playing games”

    If I were Andrew, I’d call on the U.S. to stop playing games and talk to Ms. Maxwell, who apparently can fly around the world as she pleases while people such as Assange are in jail.

    It’s a show. A sham. A con. A put-up. WWE monster trucks for the hoi-polloi.

    Trump is losing to all Democrats? Are they mental? Almost all Democrats are “my candidate or bust” so the turnout will be 1/2 – 1/4 turnout for any single offering. And I’m afraid that includes Bernie, especially lately when he’s pro-open border and re-education camp, and so weak on his competitors like Biden, I have no historical example to compare him to. He’s the weakest candidate ever, who attacks his own supporters while defending his attackers. That’s not a winning hand. And thus, impeachment, garden-variety election tampering, just like 4 out of 5 times. Hey, isn’t that what HE’S on trial for? Funny ol’ world.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 27 2020 #53096
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    We’re getting kicked out of the Middle East, and what are we going to do about it?

    Speed it up and make it irreversible of course! This is what the voters wanted. So the Shia were divided all over the map, are now united not only in themselves, but with the Sunni in gracefully requesting the Americanos hit the road back home. Thank God. Even Bolton cannot effectively reverse this move without tremendous work. And we got that by doing exactly what Bolton and the Neo-cons most requested. Savage win. Their little brains are still trying to figure it out.

    Speaking of, I guess we see him filled up with salted disinfo and shoved out the door just in time to write (and leak) his books. Leaked? To whom? Well Mr. Vindman, Col. Vindman’s twin brother, IKYN. But nobody nowheres ever expected he would a) authorize everything Bolton said as the legal censor and b) leak it all to the NY Times. Naw! Nevah. So as certainly as a train coming down the tracks you couldn’t have anticipated this in your strategy and legal defense. Nope, not when you sit around watching cartoons all day.

    Certainly is a show. A sham. A con. A put-up. WWE at its finest.

    Like the Kung-flu fighting? 40 days later they estimate possibly 200,000 “have” it. Death toll at 100, as statistically close to zero as possible. So statistically, 2,000 deaths / 365 = 5 deaths per day getting hit by lightning = 220 people, twice as likely as Kung-flu, officially.

    Are y’all serious here? Since I don’t hear vaccine manufacturers hovering, like we did in ebola, etc, who vanished with the disease the second they were paid, what’s it all about, Alfie? To generate a media spin cycle from thin air? For the impeachment? That seems extreme. For the imploding economy? Darned if I can tell right now, but let’s pick a real CoD: there are 3,424 traffic fatalities per day worldwide. There are 49,000 deaths/day from combined heart diseases, CVD. There were 27 deaths/day in 2019 from wars, low estimate of direct fatalities. So eat a burger, stand in the middle of the road on a high hill in Aleppo with an umbrella. If anything they’re saying is within a 100 fold of correct, you’re not going to die of Corona, because officially, according to them, nobody yet has any more than the common cold. If they said it, it’s a lie. They are saying it, LOUD, therefore ….

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    “French NGOs, Local Authorities Take Court Action Against Oil Giant Total (G.)”

    Desperate for austerity, Climate Austerity. Since that’s going so well since the gas tax hike! Don’t shoot ‘til you see the whites of their eyes. We’ll ruin this economy somehow! Then MORE government to fix that!

    “Locust Swarms the Size of Cities (AP)”

    Apparently locusts occur when there IS good weather. Rain = grass = locusts, who because it only just happened and is unusual, have no natural predators, who lag. That’s also why locusts are a predictable cycle, and show up in history in war and famine cycles. But note, this locusts ironically happen when there’s GOOD weather, and the desert first greens. …Don’t worry, won’t be reported. New lakes and grasslands aren’t news. Feel for them though: must seem like you can’t get a break.

    “NYT has allowed itself to be used by Bolton”

    The latest leak – again – shows that State Dept. people were openly obstructing and undermining the elected president, and that he was responding to this since the beginning of his presidency, months, years before Biden, and on issues not related to Biden.

    So…argument this is about election – afraid of a guy who slurs, doesn’t know where he is, smells little girls, and can’t think straight: not so good. I wouldn’t be afraid of him, I could only dream he would the DNC candidate. And that second level (that it’s election-related) has never been established. But this latest leak does establish the time: years before Biden declared. That leaves the question: does the President have the right to fire ambassadors? Yes he does, unquestioningly. So…did you just harm your own case leaking facts again?

    Since when have facts mattered? RussiaRussiaRussia. Bombshell. Walls closing in.

    Is it not JUST candidate that can never be investigated, not JUST every member of their family, but every person and every family member that MIGHT candidate, someday, years from now?

    Why can’t we pin Kung-Flu yet? Is it 50 people dead (world’s biggest joke) or 10,000 (worth locking down 50M) as random youtube clips are attempting to lead? Okay, something else? Need an excuse as to why China is slowing to collapse that isn’t the Chinese government? Can’t figure.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 26 2020 #53025
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    I was going to say, and NOW they complain we’re terrible, ecological wrecks, compared to THAT. …But what we’ve done is worse, in a way, paving all land from sea to sea and putting concrete houses on it it will take a glacier to erase. That’s “Clean” you see. Whereas having one coal-laden hot spot and 91% forest is “dirty”. Ah, humans!

    We may have found out why China didn’t immediately blame the U.S.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/did-china-steal-coronavirus-canada-and-weaponize-it

    I remember the airport stop but didn’t lodge the exact virus name, since it wasn’t relevant then. Too much going on.

    On that, a bad 2nd piece: “This Is How China Is Hiding The True Number Of Coronavirus Deaths”
    “Coronavirus Kills Man In Shanghai As China Confirms Nearly 2,000 Cases”

    And viewers are right: China doesn’t screw everything up and go into worldwide lockdown unless there’s a LOT more people affected, and it’s a LOT more dangerous (or embarrassing) than they admit.

    I have to suggest from their behavior that it’s not 100 dead. That would be what 50 Million lockdown / 200 cases, or they shut down their economy and blew $1B for 1:250,000 or even one in a million chance-death. No mas. No way. Nyet. The media is also lying and I wouldn’t credit different article that there are 10,000 cases in Wuhan 5 days ago, but that has to be a lot lot closer than 200 deaths.

    Still random, still very low count, single%, but we now know it can kill healthy people without issue, the transmission says everyone in the world will have it very soon, and the usual suspects – vaccine salesmen, authoritarian lockdown experts, even fear mongers mostly – are nowhere to be found even now. So they are not on the list. Similarly not buying the “random animal market” story, which then they knew where and when a day later? C’mon, make it plausible. No, China knew instantly, and how serious instantly, in a vast land of bureaucratic denial instantly, and responded with shock and awe instantly, which means they knew something.

    “The first person known to have been infected by the Wuhan coronavirus had never visited the city’s seafood market”

    “ US Economic Confidence at Highest Point Since 2000 (Gallup)”

    Although confidence is nice, it’s a feeling and not reality. After 20 years of contraction (hidden by erroneous inflation subtractor) we’ve barely risen 1%. So we cut the country 30% in a 20-year depression and rose off the mat? Well, better than not, I guess.

    Stock Market A ‘Ponzi Scheme’ That Eventually Must Collapse – Guggenheim (RT) “

    Sure but in inflationary nations with a crippled economy like Argentina and Zimbabwe, money hides in the stock market and it goes up wildly, losing money less. It never collapsed numbers, only in real money terms.

    hung jury strategy.”

    That’s a good point and meshes perfectly with the plan to inspire a new civil war to hide everything. Bernie’s guys – although only one or two, again – said if they didn’t get their way it was “obvious” that like Nadler says, there’s a “cover up” maybe plus a rigged vote – 100% of the time that I don’t win – and therefore they would “take to the streets” and “burn it down.” Then the criminals that inspire it, just like the teachers and professors, can make their getaway, claiming “oh those violent people, those peasants left and right, we need violent, oppressive authoritarianism to control them”. …Or more than now, apparently, which is impressive indeed. I hate the plan, yes. But it’s a pretty good one. They’re just unarmed and some numbers short, which is why they’ve been importing and protecting MS-13.

    P.S. the Clinton trial was a much rigged nonsense with no “high crime” as the present one is. And just like now, there was a wide sweep of real crimes they COULD have presented and didn’t. Then everyone cries about ‘honesty’ and ‘what we did before’. What we did before? We lied, covered our side, and made it up. Why would we repeat that? Tradition?

    The whole modern world has divided itself into Conservatives and Progressives. The business of Progressives is to go on making mistakes. The business of Conservatives is to prevent mistakes from being corrected. Thus we have two great types — the advanced person who rushes us into ruin, and the retrospective person who admires the ruins.” ― G.K. Chesterton

    “VP Pence Appears To Suggest Americans, Nor Russians, Liberated Auschwitz”

    We’ve been at this since before it happened. Wow, Normandy! Bigliest in the war. …You know except every day on the Eastern front in Stalingrad and elsewhere. What was it, 60 divisions east to 10 west or something? And we didn’t take Italy and still couldn’t make it to Berlin on time? It’s amazing the Anglos flapping gums and polishing office-chairs until their bums are red-hot works so well for them. Not trying to diminish what was pretty hard for us dog-faces — just put it into context. Most things reported in history are true — it’s just that their opposites are also true. Which is real? Which is more accurate? One probably is but how do we know? We don’t even know what’s going on now, and it’s around us.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 25 2020 #52998
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    Here’s something useful from The Guardian: https://getpocket.com/explore/item/the-case-for-making-low-tech-dumb-cities-instead-of-smart-ones?utm_source=pocket-newtab

    Just as well to go to low-tech now and beat the rush, since high-tech is spiral of both increasing failures and higher costs. What is is Tainter said about “Collapse”? That it was a result of outsized infrastructure that then saps too much daily support? Our answer: more centralization, more infrastructure, more GDP=more costs.

    So the article can indicate scores of solutions, but we cannot use them – yet – because we cannot let go of centralization and power concentration, and the mind that makes the problem cannot be the mind that sees the solution.

    A lot of hype and alarmism about my Corona. Let’s see what happens and what the real numbers are. People may “have it” but if if only gives you the common cold, then that happens already with all the existing flus. Kung-flu, as they’re saying. It’s probably worse, but how MUCH worse? I’m not getting good info, because without a test, no one knows how many have it. Could be the whole world has already been infected, and the hundred deaths are the cap. Not looking too hard, 3,000 deaths a year in Australia for the common cold, population 25M = 1:8300, or 0.0001% That would be 700k deaths worldwide. See what I mean? Does it go up by fibonocci? It’s cool numbers to put on a page, but can you back it?

    “was holding Republican senators rapt”

    That’s not what Kunstler and other leftists said. They thought if only someone should throw a brick and end it all, like a Vogon Poetry reading. The comment itself is pretty standard these days: IF anything I said/wrote/implied was true, THEN that would be quite a story! Yes, and IF aliens landed and made Fluffy the Shibu king of all earth, that would be a story too. But it didn’t happen, you didn’t have evidence, nobody said it was, and there was no reason to think it ever will. “You can’t make this stuff up!” –CNN reporter, on making all the stuff up.

    Example 5 minutes ago, MSNBC: “Gay teen’s family says his homicide may have been a hate crime” …Or it may not have been. Because I’m a journalist, I didn’t call anybody, collect evidence, or check. Even if there were evidence, that would have to be proven somewhere, presented by the D.A., confirmed by a jury, and might even then be wrong…but at least there would BE a story. The story here is, “If I invent and presume things, there might be a story.”

    Back to the point, yes, IF anything Adam Schiff said was true, that WOULD be interesting and incriminating. However, it’s Mr. Adam’s job to PRESENT EVIDENCE of…anything, frankly…but hopefully something relevant to the non-crimes and non-charges in the impeachment, and after 3 days has failed or forgotten to do so. I can’t help him in that case. Trump could be totally guilty, but you wouldn’t know it through Adam Schiff because he presented nothing to the jury.

    Not exactly sure who the speech was for. It’s a grand-slam to the Twitterati who already agree with him. Okay, great, but a) you need to convince people who do NOT agree with you, and b) the only practical audience is the Senate, because if you convince some voters but not the Senate, he’s going to walk free and undermine your gains with the voters.

    And yes, his whole premise is to bomb Russia, who is the size of Italy and hasn’t been Soviet for 30 years. Even if they were, Schiff’s party is literally the “Democratic Socialist” party, so maybe that’s what they’re mad about: that Russia is NOT communist, but vaguely authoritarian mixed-capitalist like we are. I guess Carlson is right? According to Schiff the impeachment is about nuking Russia, not any action by Trump? That’s what’s on trial here?
    Do we all want to die? Will we vote for WWIII?

    Per Kunstler, is it instead a plan to discredit democracy, government, elections, and therefore incite a civil war? Probably, that’s been the plan since Limbaugh in the 90s, but I don’t know if they can get that far from here. Even Antifa doesn’t seem to be getting lift-off, and it requires one side in government, and the outside faction to be armed and orderly, like Virginia. However, Virginia was so orderly they had no news and even picked up all their garbage before returning home.

    “Ukrainian officials had actually opened a new probe into Burisma months before President Trump’s July 2019 phone call”

    Hey no kidding. So how was he going to rig an election to open a case they already had opened, twice? Three, four times? Doesn’t matter. ‘Cause I want it to be true and thought it in my mind. That’s beyond whether IF we were eventually able to prove wrongdoing – and to do that someone would have to look – then it would STILL be appropriate. In fact, it’s legally required, both at home and via the Clinton-era treaty. Nevermind: facts, logic. We can’t look, so we can’t know, because looking at my side is a crime. We’re as pure as the driven snow.

    And since there’s more targets than gunsights in a field this dirty, remind that Ukraine has already legally established that they DID rig the ‘16 election, and that has also been established here, with the release of documents on Manafort. But the Ukrainians are Slavs and therefore not real human beings. What they say doesn’t matter and nobody pays attention to them anymore than pigs or untermench snorting. Ask the tolerant, diverse, inclusive left. Nope! Slavs aren’t people, their countries aren’t countries, their laws, opinions, or self-determination don’t count! We don’t even ignore them: they literally don’t exist as humans anymore than flies or bugs.

    no one has suggested my son did anything wrong.

    I have no idea what he’s doing any more then Sanders who tried to say Biden was “not corrupt in any way.” In any way? He’s a politician, no American or other person on earth is going to believe that. Who are you talking to and why did you say it? Jut say, “Your guy’s more corrupt, why are you singling out po’ Joe and picking on his kids?” See how easy that was? Btw, and speaking of the GAO, the ethics rules don’t just say you can’t take bribes(duh), they delineate in detail that IF you are in charge of an area, you CANNOT have family members there, and, covering all, cannot have even the appearance of corruption. Even if he’s completely innocent, which he is, since nothing’s been proven yet, we’re only asking to look. So there’s a real and defined breach of ethics, rejection of rules, and ignoring of oversight. …But we knew that, since the State Department said there was, was covering and responding to it, and briefing the Ambassador for the expected accusations and fallout.

    …Except none of all that happened, though widely reported by the NYT, Politico, in public government records, because if the things that happened, did, it would be legal, logical, and required to ask questions about it. But asking questions about public record and widely-reported stories is treason and impeachable.

    “Professors Donate To Democrats Over Republicans By A 95:1 Ratio (Turley)”

    I think this makes them the least diverse, least tolerant group on the planet. Also reminds me of “If everybody’s thinking the same thing, nobody’s thinking.” And that’s even if you don’t credit throwing all Republicans into re-education camps, which I’ve been hearing from them for decades, and not just from a few young kids in Bernie’s campaign. Where do you think the kids GOT the idea? From trusted professors, who are going to run away like little girls and deny everything like milk-sops, leaving Antifa and the Bernie Bros to swing for what they incited like little weasels. Don’t know what to do with that. It’s what happens when you’re allowed to speak, but no one thinks or expects words to be backed by actions, ever. Since they have no actions but evasion, they’re just chickenhawks. I can’t respect that.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 24 2020 #52978
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    Besides, the GAO is the House. Yeah, we know they dinna’ like: big surprise. There’s a parallel inspector that also saw it and did NOT care, showing it’s debatable. But in any case we already KNOW the House and Congress disagree with the GAO and didn’t care since THEY WATCHED IT, saw it, recorded it, marked it, AND SAID NOTHING. So if they — the House — were concerned why isn’t his –still potential — withholding of aid in front of the Supreme Court? Why? Because the House never brought suit to compel. …Which they never had to, because he provided all that aid, plus naughty Javelin missiles that Obama wouldn’t.

    Which shows they never cared a bit. They just make stuff up, like everybody else. My side, right or wrong. I thought it, now it’s real.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 24 2020 #52977
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    Meh, I dunno. He thought about not paying his rent, but eventually paid it. On time.

    …And that’s even if he ever thought about not paying, it, which I can’t prove.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 24 2020 #52970
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    Am I crazy here, or does China have a different health perspective based on Chinese medicine and therefore not “General Practitioners” who are Western? Not sure what that means, but sounds similar to complaining there are only 27,000 TCM doctors in the U.S. Well, yes. We’re not China, China’s not us. We’re different.

    That’s not to say Western medicine isn’t better in a crisis or epidemic, it may be; it’s to say I don’t know and those numbers won’t tell me.

    In death tolls, when it was a dozen, apparently 8 were over 80, 5 were over 70, and three had serious underlying health conditions. Like usual, that ain’t much of a death toll, hardly greater than the common cold. Yet they are reacting very seriously and not blaming us, and I don’t know why. Isn’t it legally REQUIRED to blame America for everything? Also didn’t entirely grasp that sure, a dozen people at first, but 0.01% of 1.38 Billion is 13 million people, as we’re rapidly realizing.

    So, to commenters, given some weird elements here, a test run for plausible lockdowns? Why? For upcoming food shortages? How many journalists have gotten sick and “disappeared” compared to the general population, as set by a few years of their social-credit scores?

    Wuhan Virus Will Shape China’s Smart City Vision (R.)” Aha.

    Take a peep at the U.S. system: so everyone is catastrophically sick with completely voluntary diseases and the hospitals are full. Well-stocked, sure, but dizzying consumers of all supplies under our present procedures. So you think we can absorb 10,000 new patients per city? And what, kick all the heart patients and diabetics out on the street? Profit says you have to run at 100% capacity though, and with no cost or consequence to your bad lifestyle choices, it’s somebody else’s cost, somebody else’s fault.

    Doomsday Clock Moves within 100 Seconds of Midnight (NPR)

    So after being wrong for 60 years, they move the clock again? It’s been a second to midnight my whole life. Nothing’s happened but they sure scared the heck out of me and caused a lot of child suicides over the years. That was before I realized if a adult human said it, it’s a bat-s—t, fabricated, self-serving bald-faced lie. Children lie only half the time, a pleasant relief. So the clock is run by adults? It’s a lie. It’s run by schmarty-guyz, in the media? It’s definitely and COMPLETELY a lie, and almost certainly a knowing one. Known because smart people can’t say it’s two minutes to midnight for 60 years without failing statistics 120 semesters in a row. Lookin’ at you NPR, Yale graduates and the dumbest guys in the room.

    More productively? It’s political. Propaganda. Theatre. Now just look for the stage director and the script.

    ““the law of attempts,” a category of crimes”

    It cannot be a crime if it wasn’t committed. Even if you had a brain-intent recording machine on tape – which you don’t — it still wouldn’t be a crime. We don’t arrest people for wanting to swear and not, or thinking about not paying their rent. But isn’t this a caution about the problems of “Thoughtcrime”, which is not a joke to these people but actually believed and actually prosecuted? Just had this in a Danish interview with Facebook about a certain British Mr. Robinson. The Dane said, “Oh yes, I totally, totally believe everything you say about Robinson, of course! So…can you point me to the quotes where he said anything bad, incited or promoted ay violence?”

    Facebook say: “…Er…he has, that is…der…we all know…it’s more a contextual that WE at Facebook know what he MEANT by what he’s never even once said…”

    O RLY? So you know and bann people – forever, without trial or appeal – not even on what they’ve DONE, but on what YOU THINK THEY MIGHT SAY, BUT NEVER HAVE? = Thoughtcrime. Coming to your town, but it’s already there, planetwide, down to the tiniest Boy Scout meeting.

    Since y’all like fascism and tyranny so much and won’t lift a finger, You’re Next. Might what to brush up on your Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, it’ll come in handy in ‘Bernie’s’ education camps.

    Am I kidding? Germany just outlawed, “Climate Hysteria” as a plausible word yesterday. A French author was just jailed for having the opinion that a few million sudden immigrants could plausibly be characterized as an “Invasion”. Invasion /ɪnˈveɪ·ʒən The entering or taking over of a place, or being entered by force.

    Opinions are treason. When I want your opinion, I’ll beat it out of you.

    “Fed’s Repos Drop to Oct Level, T-Bills Surge, But MBS Fall (WS)”

    Finally to something important, the number hasn’t dropped, it’s $730B, what they’re doing is hiding it, but only a little since everybody loves fraud and nobody cares. For instance, FICC has now bought $60B. Who’s the FICC? Funny you should as: it’s an empty shell corporation, a clearinghouse with no assets run by the DTCC. Whos the DTCC? Since they’re the nexus of all stocks in the U.S. of $34 Trillion, maybe should look it up. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depository_Trust_%26_Clearing_Corporation
    They’re a shell corporation that’s owned by Cede and Co. (as in, surrender, give up), a shell entity that keeps bookwork on who owes what stocks to whom among EVERY bank, Hedge Fund, and Person on earth. –And owning paper copies are now illegal. That’s odd, why dat? So…when you have a “flash-crash” sale and Fargo doesn’t like taking a loss? DTCC reverses the trade so they win. When you have a stock vote in Taser and 130% more people vote than shares exist? That’s DTCC having so completely lost track of stock certificates that there are double, triple, quadruple more shares in Morgan and Citi slush than were ever issued: that is to say, they’re counterfeited. At will. Any time they like. For any reason. How to you think Sachs make 400 winning trading days in a row? With ONLY insider trading? And stock is now issued like with Overstock.com, at 2x, 5x, 25x multiples created out of thin air – because nobody’s watching the books – and used to short troublemakers like Overstock, or Blackberry, or whoever Tesla’s or Amazon’s enemies are today, and run them out of business.
    Every day of the year. It’s called “failures to deliver” and it’s been going on almost 20 years in numbers that beggar the imagination.

    So FICC, like the DTCC, has no assets and no oversight and no accountants. So they just say, “I have a used pack of Wrigley’s gum, and I can now borrow against that chewing gum to the tune of $60B, and $6,000 Billion tomorrow if I want”, and nobody says anything. And they did so earlier this month.

    Okay, so what’s the problem here, aside from the obvious one: money if worthless and everybody (that’s you) loves fraud more than air?

    We can be almost completely sure that, like Taser and Overstock, EVERY SINGLE SIFI BANK – all of them, UBS, Santander, Sumitomo, DeutscheBank, Morgan – has for historic reasons, to rig that price, to win that extra trade, 25 years ago, has COUNTERFEITED U.S. Treasury bonds in the system. …Because nobody’s checking the system. Nobody cares, so long as it expands and not contracts, so long as it wins and not loses. So we have a case where, if you check the serial numbers, SOME HUGE NUMBER OF BONDS ARE DUPLICATES, triplicates, googleplexacates. —Hey, just like all those MBS mortgages, back in the ’08 crisis, Docktor? Yes, Virginia, just like that. Like selling the same house 20x to Norwegian pensions, owned by Fargo, owned by 20 other funds in the MERS system, owned by YOU too – because they’re trying to foreclose and you have no mortgage at all —

    “...until neither the Plain nor the Star-Bellies knew
    whether this one was that one… or that one was this one…
    or which one was what one… or what one was who
    !”

    So when you have a REPO crisis, and somebody’s going down, maybe the real problem is that the banks are aware that 10%, 1/3, HALF of all bonds they are posting for overnight are FAKE? And they could get caught with the counterfeit? The whole system is essentially a fake? And being system-wide and going back to the 90’s, it literally can’t BE unfaked? No method on earth can possibly un-f—k the system this corrupt?

    What does the Fed do? Well the “Fed” is merely the SIFI banks and the banks are the Fed. So what do the banks do for themselves? They say, “We’re in a crisis. You just have to buy EVERYTHING, with NO QUESTIONS asked, FOREVER,” and therefore LAUNDER all the money, all the fraud, and make it money-good.

    Hey, Herr Docktor, is that like when the Fed bought AIG and the MBS at 100c on the $ when they were worth 15c? You know, making the banks whole at the taxpayers’ expense, and not only not PROSECUTING crime, but actually REWARDING it with multi-billion in bonuses, THAT YEAR and every years since? Yes, Virginia.

    So…this could be that kind of problem trader Armstrong was saying: a problem that is SO bad, SO systemic, SO insolvable, that no one will even TALK about it? Verboten, does not exist?
    Uh, yeah, something like that. Just a theory though. You can suggest it’s the trillions in negative Euro interest rates finally contaminating the Repo, or that it’s a generic bailout, but although those probably exist, from the actions I have to guess isn’t and is a lot bigger.

    “Tis a tangled web we weave / when first we practice to deceive.” The only way out is to come clean, stop lying. That will never happen, because the system itself is a lie and the system itself and all its power brokers will vanish and fail if truth returns. That’s why the only enemy, the only crime, is telling the truth. Fīat jūstitia ruat cælum. Because they will. Right now.

    America’s Radioactive Secret (Rolling Stone)”

    Oh if only it were this. In our area, a load costs, say, $10,000. However, if someone were to loosen the petcock on the back of the truck and it leaked out on the roads on the way there, well, you and the company would just have to split the $10,000, wouldn’t you? Accidents happen. Shucks, Gomer, I won. And then I took my daughter to get chemo. Was it all worthwhile? You can’t prove nothin’. “No evidence was published.”

    And you wonder why Fīat jūstitia ruat cælum. The only way to make it stop.

    “But mark this: There will be terrible times in the last days. People will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, proud, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, without love, unforgiving, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not lovers of the good, treacherous, rash, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God— having a form of godliness but denying its power. Have nothing to do with such people.”

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 23 2020 #52949
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    Check 9Bill comments?

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 23 2020 #52936
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    “China Quarantines 11 Million in Wuhan As Virus Kills 17, with 95 Critical (RT)”

    From yesterday, it doesn’t matter what happens, what matters is what China THINKS happened. And the Corona was patented by the West just a few years ago (2015) and related to a group fronted by Bill Gates. Again, doesn’t matter if that’s why and true, only that China can/might THINK that’s where and why it came from. ‘Cause you know: genocide? It makes people cranky.

    Gabbard Suing Clinton for Defamation over ‘Russian Asset’ Comments (Hill)”

    Since HRC is queen bee, this make a lot of sense. To wrest the party from two who go directly to the media and order the media what to cover and ignore (just like HRC ordered the media to give DJT coverage as “pied piper”, in the leaked emails), Tulsa has to head-on the queen bee to change and save the party. But don’t worry: they won’t. They will irreparably damage it instead. Why? They believe nothing and without the party as air-cover would all go to jail. For election tampering for starters. With Bernie, proven, among 100 other charges, and would be Federal Charge any other time and place. Been so long anyone was straightforward in the party, just doing what they say and acting on it, they don’t expect it or know what to do.

    The media for their part refused to take 30 minutes and read the simple lawsuit document, just like Covington, then commented on nonsense that didn’t happen they all made up in their minds. …But I said “media” so obviously.

    UN Demands US Probe of Alleged Saudi Hack of Bezos’ Phone (ZH)

    Hey U.N., my phone’s been hacked too, and I have some mail I’d like you to sort.

    Boeing CEO Expects to Resume 737 MAX Production before Mid-Year (R.)”

    Doing it to themselves. All about response and handling. They could have fixed and be over this by now except for the lying.

    The Great American Shale Oil & Gas Bust (WS)”

    They act like this matters. The whole point was to turn borrowed Fed money into oil. The companies went bankrupt? The “company” is a fiction. It’s a bunch of words on paper, nothing happens when you tear the paper. However we got real oil for a bunch of hot air clicking mice on a pixel. Sounds like a win, not a loss.

    Point: THEY DON’T CARE. Nor does the economy about this fiction. We’ll just do it again until the US$ is taken away.

    “Ghislaine Maxwell’s Personal Emails Were Hacked (DM)”

    Call the U.N. IT Support hotline!!!

    “TEPCO Estimates It Will Take 44 Years to Decommission Fukushima No. 2 (JT)”

    They re-occupied Hiroshima almost right away with little ill effects. Doesn’t that make General Electric 44x more dangerous than an atom bomb? American corporations and product kill more people than cancer? We’re No 1!!!

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 22 2020 #52935
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    “The Democratic party is falling apart before our eyes, and they have only themselves to blame. This should have happened about 4 years ago,”

    Sad. Don’t do it! #ComeBack

    “USA’s use of atomic bombs on Hiro-Saki will see that it was a lunatic decision”

    Not at all. It WAS a pack of lies though. Sure, they wanted to avoid a Normandy landing of Tokyo, and rightfully so…but Japan was already surrendering and only wanted their 1,000-year emperor, an easy ask, as proven. No, they were really talking to the Russians, moving seamlessly on to that war, as shown. And also we leaked that nuclear info to them (also consensus reality now, look it up) to have your MICC arms-war, as Eisenhower, who was RIGHT THERE at the time, warned us about, but was already too far. Hype aside, the atom bombs were a joke. Dresden was much more bombed, attacking civilians not just incidentally but specifically. And the radiation that would salt them for 1,000 years, people live nicely there and almost right away. So yes, sure, bigger bomb. But so? Does it matter to get hit with 50 .22s instead of one 10-gauge slug? Not to the guy dying. Anyway, hardly lunatic, totally rational, such as military planners murdering everyone can ever be called “rational.”

    Also the whole premise is gone now. We’re beyond battlefield nukes down to pocket nukes, and they were probably tested out in Syria and Ukraine already, though hard to pin down. They too do not leave lingering radiation. The smaller and more conventional they are, the more likely to be used, so no one knows where the threshold to “Hold on” is anymore.

    Hunter Biden Ordered to Explain Why He Shouldn’t Be Held in Contempt Of Court”

    I was more concerned this is a Contempt of the Mother of his child. Everyone finds courts contemptible, what about your infant son, a Biden?

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 22 2020 #52883
    Dr. D
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    “Repair and overhauling in Chicago”

    Americans doing stuff: we need to shut that down right away! There’s got to be some kind of safety, environmental or tax excuse we can find: go to it boys! Work is bad, mkay, find that crime so we can prosecute.

    New Coronavirus Has Unusually High Ability To Bind To A Human Protein (SCMP)”

    Don’t know if it’s true, but reportedly behind the scenes, China believed SARS was a human engineered virus meant to attack people by race, i.e. Asians, Chinese specifically. From the spread and death count it seems they were not entirely mistaken. Whether it is or isn’t we can’t know, and doesn’t matter, only that they THINK it is, so they will then respond to our politics that way. …You know a day after all their pigs mysteriously died, leaving them helpless to U.S. imports. Another gol-durned coincidence. Boy those Yanks sure are lucky!

    ““Proposed changes will insure that incomes and pensions are such that everybody has decent living conditions

    ‘Tis but to dream here, but I’ve got an easier one: leave us all the f alone, we’ll be rich in no time.

    Senate Votes Down Democrats’ Subpoena Proposals (G.)”

    Still no idea what they’re doing except prevent Schiff, Nadler, Schumer, and Pelosi from being subpoena’d for crimes one more day.

    Adam Schiff Caught ‘Fabricating’ Evidence (US24)”

    There’s somebody left who didn’t know this? And from a guy who didn’t know the whistleblower “Charlie’s” name, but somehow for weeks knew which name not to say? Along with Google, Twitter, Facebook, who didn’t know either but knew which name to erase? Huh.

    This week, Bernie is sexist. Stay tuned for next week,”

    If only this were a joke. So…TDS, Bernie’s supporters say the DNC is rigging him – again – and with CNN, etc. Right. Then Trump says it. Lo! If Trump was for oxygen, Democrats would suffocate. Bernie then attacks TRUMP for defending HIM, and therefore attacks his own Bernie-supporter base as hostile lunatics. #OppositeLand #Winning! Then comes out not with a “Hey, the party needs to stand together against evil, now is not the time to question Biden…blah blah” Nope! He says, “I apologize, It is absolutely not my view that Joe is corrupt in any way.” In any way. Look, I don’t know who you’re talking to because NOBODY thinks Joe is not corrupt “in ANY way.” Maybe a reasonable amount, maybe unfair to single him out, not “not at all” and ESPECIALLY the far-left i.e. Bernie/AOC: they hate Biden and Obama and think they’re far-right Conservative Nazis. (Yes, that doesn’t exist and is an oxymoron, tell them to read a book: I’ve tried)

    Political takeaway: W T F ? The only person trying to get sink Bernie and election Biden/Trump is Bernie. He hates his own support. #Oppositeland, #AntiLogos what can I say? You win by losing, or in his case lose by being the winning front-runner.

    P.S. HRC says, “Nobody likes Bernie? It’s sad?” Well he whipped you with no media and no support and without trying so imagine how much MORE people dislike you. #EveryoneHatesHillary. More than Bernie. More than Trump. More than Cancer. Sit with that for a minute and have a nice day!

    Ukrainian Prosecutor Biden Pushed to Oust Heavily Investigated Burisma (RT)”

    We only deny public evidence we can see with our own eyes, like Biden’s video from CFR. We accept all evidence that makes no logical sense, we CAN’T see, have never seen, and is illegal to see or ask about. That’s logic! Or at least in a world of American AntiLogic.

    And so Biden gets to tell the media what to do? Must be nice, but they are not biased at all.

    Brazil Charges Glenn Greenwald with Cybercrimes (ZH)”

    Big holy yikes. Because “Exposing deep systemic corruption” was “discrediting the judiciary.” I’ll bet it was! That’s why we have reporters! But remember, in #OppositeLand, we have reporters to HIDE facts.

    The EU has done it. It’s turned the Greeks against immigrants.”

    That is the plan. Now they can steer a civil war or peasant against peasant instead of against their machinations where it belongs. It took a couple million to do it BECAUSE humans are so helpful and so tolerant, but if you push enough, and pay for enough media extremism to get out there, then fund enough organizations, you CAN indeed do what is unnatural for everyone, just like every time before. “The terrible Hun!” “Irrational slanty-eyed Japs!” Ah, high points in history, for which Bernays and Madison Avenue were very well paid. –And all those guys from Hannibal, MO died at Omaha. Or Aleppo. Sure wasn’t the Bush sisters.

    US Drinking Water Widely Contaminated with ‘Forever Chemicals’ (R.)

    Should we stop? Nah. Hey, if poisoning people is a crime, should we sue and/or prosecute? Nah. Are you crazy? We don’t arrest folks just for KILLING everyone, you know, ‘forever’! In #OppositeLand that’s a GOOD thing, just ask any environmentalist. Really, we need to give them a medal, or failing that, an enormous tax subsidy and immunity from all prosecution while they run the FDA. What? We already did that for 30 years? #Winning!

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 21 2020 #52863
    Dr. D
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    “Hillary Says Nobody Likes Bernie, Won’t Commit To Backing Him”

    So what are they saying? A retired private citizen who does nothing and holds no positions won’t vote for Bernie? So what? Or are you saying we should care, because HRC still is running the DNC? Seems like one or the other. If she’s running it, then why is she hiding and not honest about it? CNN, you’re a joke.

    “Markets Tumble As Human-to-Human Transmission Coronavirus Confirmed (ZH)”

    Is this like all the other 20 scares where the death tool is scarcely higher than the common cold?

    “Cry Wolf! And loose the lies of war!”

    “Still wondering how he got from near bankruptcy to hiring an A-list lawyer.”

    Yeah, amazing. And somebody seems to be inside handing out bread crumbs, as how does Powell know what was on the 302s nobody wrote, has, or has ever seen? Funny ol’ world. But she knows what the FBI and DoJ don’t and is almost certainly right. …But there’s no NSA or military intel anywhere. It’s all just a big accident.

    McConnell Proposes Compressed Schedule for Impeachment Trial (Hill)

    This probably would have helped if they’d got some crimes or evidence before now. It’s like the local constabulary saying, “He’s a bad seed: born bad.” So they just chase and harass him from the age of 13 until he’s proven right.

    “Sheriff John Brown always hated me
    For what I don’t know
    Every time that I plant a seed
    He said, “Kill it before it grows”

    Congress has already said, they don’t care about the impeachment; they are going to keep investigating forever until they find something. And as ever, #OppositeLand, “The World Turned Upside-down”: you are INNOCENT, innocent, innocent, innocent, until PROVEN guilty. Proven. As is the Jury reads the final words and the court is adjourned. And there must be a definitive CRIME to exist before we start looking for who committed it. But that would be #Logos, logic. We are definitively #AntiLogos, AntiLogic.

    “Chief Justice Roberts Under Pressure from Both Sides in Witness Fight (Hill)”

    What are you saying? That the law exists and he’s a judge? Or do you swim in a world of Twitterati group-think where everybody slavishly agrees all the time or is excommunicated from existence? Weirdos.

    Orlov runs down more details in the Putin-law changes:
    http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2020/01/life-after-putin.html

    “During Putin’s period in power, Russia has solved the problems of separatism and domestic terrorism, reigned in the predatory oligarchy, paid off virtually all of its foreign debts including ones it inherited from the USSR, grew its economy by a factor of six (vs. China’s five and USA’s one), regained Crimea (which had been part of Russia since 1783), rebuilt its armed forces to a point where international security is no longer a major concern, and achieved an overall level of societal well-being that is unparalleled in all of Russian history.

    The system of governance he has built has worked well with him as the head of government, but it will require some adjustments in order to work well under future presidents, who may not be equally gifted. Recognizing this fact, on Wednesday Putin has launched a limited overhaul of the Russian Constitution.”

    Martin Luther King and the Black Revolutionary Tradition (Eric Mann)”

    The left hates MLK sooooo much and works tirelessly to undermine him every day, because he said, “I want people to be judged on the content of their character, NOT the color of their skin.” They do the #OppositeLand, caring only and exclusively about ever-smaller divisions of skin, and are repulsed by merit and character, and most ESPECIALLY Christian ones, as described by southern preachers. Ew.

    Ukraine, China Knew Hunter Biden Was Chronic Drug Addict, Hired Him Anyway (GP)”

    But there’s no suspicion, no evidence and even ASKING THE QUESTION is a crime.

    in reply to: Go Home Greta #52862
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    “Use it Up, Wear it Out, Make it Do, or Do Without: A motto for getting out of debt.”
    Book available.

    “We don’t have an economic problem; we have a political problem”

    “Walk the plank with our eyes wide open.

    Some people offered up answers.
    We made out like we heard, they were only words.
    They didn’t add up to a change in the way we were living,
    And the saddest thing is all of it could have been avoided.

    But it was like to stop consuming is to stop being human,
    You’ll want to make a change if you won’t.
    We’re all in the same boat, staying afloat for the moment.”

    When they stop buying stuff and lower GDP, I’ll believe them. Especially since it’s the buying and GDP that’s making us so unhappy. Until then, it’s all nonsense.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 20 2020 #52829
    Dr. D
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    “Nadler Says Dems Unwilling to Negotiate Hunter Biden Testimony (Fox)

    All witnesses must be heard, except for all the ones I don’t want. Right!

    Warren Joins Bernie in Jabbing Biden on Social Security (Pol.)”

    Craziest things happening every day now. Warren says Bernie – who’s on tape calling for a woman president decades ago doesn’t believe in women presidents. …Months after HRC won the popular. Months after telling her he wasn’t a great candidate and if she was going to run he would stand aside and let her. She didn’t, so he did.

    Claims a tape of Biden, doing Biden things in the past – and nothing that strange, unlike now – are “doctored”, fabricated. Huh? This is just C-Span video of you talking in Congress.

    Fake claims Bernie says Buttigeig has a “gay problem”? What?

    Notice any pattern here? Oh yeah, 100% of them are against Bernie. But on his side, his campaign guy was outed as a violent-loving death-camp revolutionary. And that’s just one guy, however it can show what kind of people he attracts. Don’t mind that so much. However, he was not fired, and everyone nearby locked their accounts so no evidence could be found. …Always the first response of innocent men. And going into a critical primary where their accounts MUST be active to chat up that support. I wouldn’t go nuts about it, because they’ve been saying the same thing for decades (and trying it, see VA, but so, so many laws) but…

    Speaking of, NBC had an op-ed that supporting Trump was illegal and arrestable crime. No joke. So if you’re a-gonna do that, what would you call the prisons where you plan to hold 1/3 of all Americans? And I’m the crazy one here. Can you think 30 seconds ahead? Nevermind.

    Back to crazy-every-day, “NYT endorsed Warren AND Klobuchar yesterday.” Of course they did. Because who the fargleblaster has ever supported Klobuchar? Nobody I ever heard of, not even the press until now. Since Harris was too vile even for the media, they’re picking the next VPs, who must be women. …Not capable people but nobody cares who they are, nobody cares what they do, nobody cares if anyone likes them so long as they’re women. …Because gender is a social construct that doesn’t exist, and there’s no such thing as men and women.

    John Durham Investigates Months Before Mueller Appointment (WE)

    But apparently can’t find any indictments. You know, like when somebody takes home 30,000 emails then erases them for a subpoena. Speaking of, how about Cheeto’s new legal team! Can I get an “Epstein” up in here? Since we see bad law sink ships, like Flynn’s legal team not only rigging him, but all of Comey’s pals from Justice were immediately hired into that law group to leak his legal defense in the background and run the show, maybe Cheeto needs to have some really, REALLY sweet blackmail over his lawyers Dershowitz et pals to keep them honest? …Honest in lawyer terms, anyway. And are they good? Well they got Epstein off!

    immediate steps to allow the suppressed report into Russia’s interference in the British political system to be published

    I’m guessing he hand-picked the people and fabricated the document, like all documents these day. “17 intelligence agencies!” (including NOAA and the Coast Guard) Remember Blair and yellowcake? How about the OPCW? OxFam rapes and trafficking? Hey both of those were overseen by the U.N.! But that is a coincidence and both of them are totally trustworthy. Ask the Skripals, they’ll tell you.

    I think he should just declassify a warehouse of documents including these and watch them all squirm about “Suppression” and “publishing”. Is it true? Meh, maybe, probably not. But I’ll bet you can find a few ten-million foreign cash used to rig the “Remain” vote.

    World’s Richest 2,000 People Hold More than Poorest 4.6 Billion Combined (R.)

    I’ve got an answer: More market rigging! More government! Ask Carney, he just said he was going to do all that AND hand more poorest money to his 2,000 richest friends, so long as they used the special discount code “Green” in the last 500 days. When the rich hire the rich to oversee the rich, what could possibly go wrong? I know: let’s ask the rich. NYT, Guardian, Murdoch: what do you say?

    UN Decarbonisation Target for Shipping to Cost over $1 Trillion (R.)

    Once again, they think it’s money. Money is a big zero, a representation, a pronoun. What they’re really saying is they need to burn $1 Trillion in oil-energy to create all the ships and trains to save $1 Trillion in energy. Translation: we must burn the town to fire-proof the town. #Winning! Everyone applauds. “You rich peoples sure iz schmart! $1 Trillion went into your coffers and we burned more CO2 than ever! How’d dat happen?” Wouldn’t it be easier to hire people and manufacture locally instead? You know, the way you violently oppose at every turn, even with impeachment?

    Oil Firms Risk Public Backlash If Profits Put Before Climate, Says IEA (G.)”

    Being “The Guardian”, they’re probably unaware of all law, profit, and finance over the last 100 years, but it’s literally illegal if they don’t? They would be instantly sued for breach of fiduciary duty and bounced off the BoD. If they had any reporters over the age of 12, and/or called anybody on earth to ask, they would tell them, but sadly it is “The Guardian”, so synapse-free for 100 years.

    Europe already has enough infrastructure – such as pipelines and processing plants – to meet the continent’s future demand.

    That’s so odd since I remember just a year or two ago Europe ran out of gas and had a panic about their supplies from Russia. So they have all the gas they need except it went down yesterday. Right! The Guardian cannot Google “The Guardian” for old articles from “The Guardian” because they are reporters for “The Guardian.” Good thing we only trust mainstream sources!

    Some 90 years after the US dust bowl.

    Yes, and Australia had the same cycle then too, and is as predictable as rain they would have it again. Just go chart it, or look at the many climate cycle charts people have posted for you. But they’re “Crazy” people who post science recordings in graph form, while the people who doctor and hide data are “scientists.”

    PS. 9 days of snow in Bangladesh with 9” accumulation, not seen in 40 years, much less a de-facto blizzard. I blame Russia, and certainly not East Anglia who lied to you about it. Not the people who “lost” the ice cores, then the satellite data, then their computer models, then… Also snowing to Mexico, California, in Saudi Arabia, greening in Libya, Africa, and the whole Silk Road…

    Nope. Those people don’t count. Only report what sells my product: taxes and slavery. The other stuff? Green all over new areas? Croplands growing? Well: “Deny everything. Admit nothing. Make counter-accusations.” Science!™

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 19 2020 #52807
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    Things are moving too fast for me to keep up. Rosenstein was in the Trump camp’s crosshairs forever, but now all of a sudden he’s the other camp’s worst enemy?”

    Yes, like Comey, Dore, Trump himself. First they’re registered Democrats, far leftists even. Then they cross not the principles, not the party, but HRC or the NeoLibs and suddenly they’re far right Nazis who work for Putin. (except that Russia fought the Nazis) Expect no less. So if you believe in universal health care, social security, free speech, are antiwar etc, you’re now a Nazi, where if you DON’T want that, like Biden and HRC, you’re a Democrat. #OppositeLand.

    The weird part is, no one notices.

    Strzok and Page sent 100s, 1000s of messages to each other, often during work hours, but they still get to claim invasion of their privacy?

    Yup. See above. My side right or wrong. On a phone with a bone. In a boat with a goat. On a fully-monitored government phone, in their home. Enough texts that show they could not possibly have done any other work, or heck, even this work. And I paid for it all, paid for them to rig the elections. RussiaRussiaRussia!

    Always wonder why people claim to know exactly what the Framers meant

    Well that part’s easy: with their voluminous letters it would take a lifetime to read. Downside: they often disagreed with each other. They don’t bring that part up, as it would discredit both sides. What was it Lincoln said both sides pray to the same God for victory? Both sides refer to the framer-saints rather than engaging their brains today, an appeal to authority. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fallacies

    However, they were concerned if they put in impeachment, it would be constantly used instead of elections. You know, like the last 4 out of 5 Republican Presidents. (Snopes) However, the risks of NOT allowing impeachment are too high, and I agree. “Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious People. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.” https://founders.archives.gov/documents/Adams/99-02-02-3102 If the people themselves are corrupt, nothing can save them. They so often say “The Government” oughta do/fix/make/punish such-and-such” as if the government were not us and made of the same people. If we’re corrupt, they’re 100x more corrupt, because of selection bias and Lord Acton’s “Power Corrupts.” So we’re giving more power to the MOST corrupt people in our society. Nope. The answer to government corruption is more laws and more government. Forever. Hey, where’d all this tyranny come from in here? I meant pursue and arrest MY enemies when THEY have opinions, not me and mine. Hey, what’s this bag and why is it dark sudden?

    Meh. Suppose he even got booted. So what? If the people didn’t stand for it, they’d vote his equivalent right back in, or else hold sit-ins like the one in Alexandria. You can’t actually make them. …Which is why impeachment a day before election is so counter-democratic and infuriating. Is it really too much to pick a good candidate people like and vote them in? Fighting this guy has got to be the easiest election ever, yet they still fail. “All they have to do is be less crazy than Trump.” — Bill Maher Of course the whole thing is garden-variety election-rigging, just what they accuse him of. So…we should impeach the House of Representatives. I’d start the petition, but when VA representatives got their 10% recall petition in just a few days, they simply raised the threshold to 20%, kind of like the DNC debates. If they got to 20%, they’d raise it to 90%. If 90%, then 99%. Democracy!

    mayor turned Donald Trump stooge” Nice. I see no bias at all from The Guardian. And he was considered great because his city was bombed and he completely failed even any attempt to stop it, nor protected anyone from the health consequences, nor led the charge to fix the original breach. This is considered totally normal. No one notices. And he was defeated by a chicken, not McCain’s thundering herd of RINOs. I live here and I don’t even remember a chicken. But sure, Guardian, sure it was.

    were necessary to prevent a vague, yet allegedly imminent, threat

    Wow, face-recognition of the protestors showed they were trained militias organized by Iran and were at that minute destroying the Embassy. Even on the outside I can tell the top suspect for a really-smart attack on the U.S. would be Soleimani. Yet they’re like “What attack are you talking about?” The one that the media was breathlessly reporting 24/7 until it failed and then the media threw a temper-tantrum about it? That one? I’m not saying there were or weren’t others, but like, IT’S HIS JOB to have all sorts of military plans. So if he DIDN’T have plans, he should have been fired for dereliction of duty. But: no plans. Sure, media, sure.

    Anyway, what’s Trump and Rouhani supposed to say, we colluded to erase Rouhani’s chief rival, the same way he most probably requested permission from Assad and Putin to bomb (empty, targetless) Syria? (Why? Because Maddow and Williams demanded it, and such a charge could have been impeachable if he couldn’t pull up a signed document saying it could not possibly be a war crime. It went one way since there is nothing on earth Democrats and the Media love more than war, but it could have gone the other way, and I bet they wish they had.) Anyway, I can’t prove it, but what does their resulting behavior look like? Media is still reporting how Iran will attack us worldwide, using thousands of sleeper agents. Okay, when? 2055? That WOULD be tricky. “We’ll get you when you least expect us: 50 years after Trump leaves office, see if we won’t.” No. No. Your brain is on backwards. Iran hits essentially nothing, anywhere? We’re the world’s softest target. Our infrastructure is so third-world you could take out a whole city with a backhoe. Sure they’re super-mad. Sure they are.

    The Petrodollar and the Phantom of the Petroyuan (Webb)”

    Nah, they could use a gold-trade note and it’s safer. If RMB, we’d just rock their market with our usual unlimited manipulations, like we do every day, every where, and you can destroy the Petro and US$ just by stopping us from printing fake dollars for real goods, which a gold-trade, or even BTC-trade note would do. The U.S. would have to make stuff then, do work. Hey, is that what Cheeto has feverishly been trying to do, and resisted at every turn? The beginning of jobs, the beginning of the U.S. working for a living like a fair partner? Weird. Sounds like a coincidence.

    We will shut them up with reliable and fundamental facts.

    Boy is he going to be surprised. Since when have facts mattered to the Anglos or the whole West? They just think it, write it down, and it’s true! At least all my friends say it is, and they edit Wikipedia! Just like how Russia was a Nazi instead of the near-sole ENEMY of the Nazis, above.

    I like facts as much as the next guy, but I would like them to matter before I die.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 18 2020 #52795
    Dr. D
    Participant

    Yes, you can come face to face with actual reality, outside dark glass of thought-words, but ego has to vanish, and likewise will not be able bring that reality back into thought-words. It will be yours alone. And who sees this and knows? Thought-words will not tell you.

    This may be nothing, but: drones scouring all the Colorado West. GPS is being intentionally shut off through the South East. All night vision goggles of any merit are reportedly stolen by the FBI, in a enormous hurry. And on the first day of an impeachment, with a 2A little meet-n-greet happening next door in Alexandria.
    https://www.naturalnews.com/2020-01-17-military-to-jam-gps-signals-fbi-asserting-imminent-domain-seize-night-vision.html

    Do not want.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 18 2020 #52787
    Dr. D
    Participant

    the top 10% now control nearly as much wealth as the bottom 50%.”

    There’s probably more to this than it seems at first. Because you can’t actually get rich fast enough by doing work, income disparity will be a consequence of financial speculation, a paper bubble. So by the time we see such levels of income disparity, we already have a bubble that is deep and wide. And bubbles pop, eventually. That’s why they make them. It’s not a financial secret. While millionaires go broke, billionaires consolidate.

    So cause-effect may not so much be that, people politically cause trouble, purchasing power shrinks, although true, but as Mises says, “There is no avoiding the final bust.”

    “ Battle of the Ages To Stop Eurasian Integration (Pepe Escobar) “

    MacKinder again, by the idiot Brits and Anglos. Defending this theory – which exists only in their mind, never tested – has probably killed more people than Genghis Khan. And here we go again. These are the same University wonks who told us “permanent plateau”, “subprime is contained”, “Manhattan will be underwater”, and P.S. Eugenics is both scientifically obvious and good. I don’t want to die in service of their dumb theories, how about you?

    “China’s $40 Trillion banking system dwarfs the American system at double the size, with over 4,000 small, medium and massive, state-owned banks.

    China is a great illustration of why bubbles pop, and why the Anglos, baiting them into it, can be sure no matter what happens, no matter how smart, no matter how authoritarian, China will still collapse and fail in an economic panic, like everybody else. However, at the moment, they have out-gamed the West, probably 12-20 years longer than we thought they could. Remember Asian panic, Congress demanding they re-set their currency, ‘cause we said so? Like that. Too bad suckers! China has their own ways and doesn’t live for you.

    UK Cops Block Bid To Trace Prince Andrew’s Location 19 Years Ago (NYP)”

    They refuse to provide evidence to totally exonerate him. That is not suspicious at all. And they seem to be losing Royals at quite a pace over there. Anyone wonder why? Maybe somebody knew Andrew all this time and was playing too? Maybe they all did? This goes way, way back.

    Health care, education etc. must be universal.”

    It is in a way. They’ll arrest you if you don’t go to school and aren’t vaccinated to do so. You can walk into any emergency room at any time. What we have are two TRACKS, as with everything: a doctor for the rich and for the poor, a financial system for the rich and for the poor, a legal system for the rich and for the poor. “It’s a big club and you ain’t in it!” No sir, it’s a big club and you’re receiving it.

    (You know, after paying for it.)

    I think you’ll find all of these match the post-Soviet experience, per Orlov. Difference is, following the American way, we’re lying about it. It’s not white guys dropping fastest, they’re the firstest! And they control everything, even the inside of womens’ voters’ minds, just ask Hillary. And like Putin once they do that, they attack and kill themselves, shave 10 years off their life expectancy like the tricky people they are!

    Is there any thinking going on here in America? A: no. But you can’t think straight in the first place when – thanks to universal government education – every fact you’ve ever heard is a lie.

    When everything Americans believe is false, our misinformation campaign will be complete.” – CIA Director Casey, following the new Department of Education.

    “Children, Young Adults Can’t Sue US Government Over Climate Change – Court (R.)”

    This would be obvious legal nonsense. You could say, “I’m suing because you didn’t move my school, because my theory indicates a volcano will spring up under the gym.” You’re presuming what might have been in the past and what might possibly be in the future: an impossible legal standard. I could sue that you DIDN’T divorce me, since in the future the lack of divorce will cause my suicide, car wreck, alcoholism, etc. Nothing’s happened yet. We’re not smart enough to know it ever will. And although a lot of (bad) laws point in this direction, nothing like to this level of complete mental fabrication. “I thought it in my head, so it’s real.” as we see in Nonsense, Narcissism, and self-serving every day, in the media, but also whenever anyone speaks on the internet, whenever a sparrow falls to the ground.

    No, Virginia, there IS objective reality. We may not be able to know it, but it is real. To say otherwise is a road to madness, ruin, and despair. However, it is the essence of #AntiLogos, of ego’s rebellion against God, of the “Spirit of AntiChrist” which pops up in cycles from time to time, as predicted. But this is its root, and why all these otherwise different groups, approaches, causes, all cohere together: they all have this as their root, so they are psychological allies, the same world view. Unfortunately one that doesn’t work, and kills millions trying. The inside of your ego is not reality. Things do not exist because you thought them so once. Delusion and samsara.

    Ali is a paragon of how you resist. You just do. You don’t tell other people to do it, you don’t go punch gay Asians and flag-holding grandmothers. You just do the right and not the wrong. As Gandhi pointed out, they can’t MAKE you do the wrong. They need your consent. So don’t be the baddie. Don’t give it.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 17 2020 #52776
    Dr. D
    Participant

    Wow, don’t quote The Guardian as a source for anything real. Here’s a canonical, University, left-wing orthodoxy:

    “Women in medieval times were not the passive victims of the religious and political patriarchy, no matter how often that claim is repeated. Women frequently found ways around the obstacles placed in their path or forged new paths when a challenge proved too great. They took over their husband’s businesses and ran them successfully, continued to work in guilds, or even formed their own guilds as the textile guilds of Italy attest.”

    I’d go way further than that, since they themselves say: “Women of the lowest class actually … life was uniformly difficult for the serfs – male or female – and women worked alongside men in the fields and in the medieval guilds as equals or near-equals.” Canonical. I only clicked the first thing on Google.

    And since lacking a middle class, there were only 3 people of rank per 1,000, that’s virtually the whole western world, except for a few pointy-hat wearing weirdo stars at the top, just like now. You don’t think the Kardashians or Jeffrey Starr represent normal state of fashion or behavior in North America, right? They were constantly hooking up, getting married, ‘disappearing’-as-divorce, wife-swapping, controlling-husband-controlling-wife getting the upper hand, marrying their way up, marrying their way down, getting shotgun marriages from getting knocked up by the plumber-next-door, calling the banns out the front door three times and calling it all honest, legal, and ‘Christian’. Read Chaucer. That behavior puts frontier coal-mining towns to shame. They’re humans: it was as universal then as it is now.

    …And that’s aside from the Vikings, Celts, Iroquois and a whole lotta other people where the women were giving men blow-for-blow. So sure, as they say, if you’re talking about the property-owning, decision-making, fashion-wearing 0,01%, then yeah, women’s position was weird there. So was the mens’. Just like now. …And still badly represented, Elanor of Aquatine says, or Mary Katherine Goddard if you like.

    But I’d have to do a whole thesis to prove it and read the original documents in medieval latin instead of fairy tales coming from the Victorian Age, which was its own fairy tale. So, my point being, if that was true for the Pagans, the Greeks, the Romans, then the early, middle, and late middle ages, true for Victoria, true in weird, bizarrely-civilized places like London in 1928, then how much more true on the wuz-just-frontier places like working-class America while Black Elk was still walking around?

    https://studsterkel.wfmt.com/explore/topics/world-war-ii

    Featuring WWII American ladies sleeping with any handsome guy, just like they claim didn’t happen ’til the 60s, black Germans in the war, and all sort of other interesting things that are real, not made up by historians that can only make things up because they never left their office to talk to real people or do real work. …Just like reporters, the source historians count on. Just go ask people. They’ll tell you.

    If you know The Guardian is fake, also think backward to all the stuff they said when you were a kid, and all the books those same authors wrote when you were in school. Remember Columbus discovered America the Ice Age will arrive in 1980, and continental drift is a fringe conspiracy theory!

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 17 2020 #52771
    Dr. D
    Participant

    “Mrs. Marcella Hart” But I thought women were barefoot, unemployed slaves to men until the ‘60s! That’s what they taught me in school.

    “BlackRock Will Start Moving Away from Fossil Fuels (NewYorker)”

    I have heard the Rockefellers are already safely out – rats from the ship if I ever saw it – so their corporation having held the door can now safely lower the prices with their selling. Does this – and all the wildly un-scientific, anti-engineering nonsense — not tell you they have a patent, an invention in the works? And from other actions, that patent probably requires lithium, as found in Afghanistan and Bolivia. Because otherwise, as I say every day, they are openly planning to murder half the people on the planet with their carbon targets – not that they would think that a bad thing, as they themselves have often said. But they also have pre-positioned themselves in the companies their 1:10 handmaiden BlackRock will start buying. …Because they themselves own BlackRock and DIRECT them to buy their own companies which can make themselves rich(er). How is any of this not obvious? And IF BlackRock cannot force-short oil and force-long the hand-picked Green winners, Mark Carney has said he will make YOU, the taxpayer, buy Green and buy a can’t-lose for Gore, Musk, Bezos, Rockefeller, et Co. Thaaaaaaaat’s Capitalism! When there’s no free market pricing and all manipulation! Human bad, government good. Oil bad, green good. All the trillions of green that will go right out of my pockets and into theirs.

    With Rivals Stuck in Impeachment Trial, Biden, Buttigieg to Barnstorm Iowa (R.)

    Right on schedule, Pelosi trashes Sanders, pulls him out of the race. Couldn’t get Harris, now it’s Biden-Warren, as CNN shows. About the latest watchdog, it’s a redo of the Impeachment itself: So Congress and the President disagree? Then they move to the 3rd branch, the courts. Nope! That would be logical, orderly, #Logos. You Impeach BEFORE any attempt as resolution. In fact, you plan and advertise impeachment before he’s elected!

    Today’s Watchdog is from Congress, i.e., a puppy-dog of the House. Although Trump gave all the Ukrainian aid and more, on time – they say that he did not and delayed this critical thing, Ukraine fell, Russia invaded them and is now in Paris massing to invade England, etc. (Oh wait, nothing happened. At all.) So if Congress and this Congressional Finance watchdog disagreed with the President and the 1971 law then…impeach of course, as the law says? No. They INFORM THE PRESIDENT. Just as when if Trump wishes to refuse the aid (you know, the aid he didn’t refuse but actually increased) he would INFORM CONGRESS as the 1971 law directs. Congress and the Watchdog never informed the President they opposed his delay. At all. As such, Trump never responded. It never went to court, etc. What do they think, we’re all made of moron over here? CONGRESS THEMSELVES showed with their lack of follow-up that they didn’t care in the slightest about the delay. But now they do. Okey-dokey.

    Lies upon lies upon lies upon lies upon lies upon lies upon lies upon lies upon lies.

    Parnas Now Denies Speaking with Trump (WE)”

    Sounds like Cohen, when Congress convicted him for perjury, then used a known perjurer as their star witness.

    Fey
    https://brianpeytonjoyner.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/6ddc9_tina-fey-eyeroll-1.jpg

    Should be hilarious, but I’m glad it’s not my job because I’m too bored to follow it. So is all of America, from the ratings, but also no one knew who “Adam Schiff” was on Jeopardy last night. Because he’s a nobody and nobody cares. Maybe could follow important things like $500B disappearing in bailouts this weekend.

    Manhattan’s Homeless Shelters Are Full, Luxury Skyscrapers Are Empty (Atl.)

    And the market is completely rigged, there are no free pricing, so the market cannot respond and fix it by adding needed homes and removing luxury penthouses. And Canada, AND Australia, AND London, AND San Francisco… But the Fed said yesterday they think it’s their fault. Maybe.

    their editors have specifically hired them to write negative, sensationalistic stories because they sell best.

    If only. It’s not about the money. “Conservative” stories and outlets – that is, what was normal and centrist only 4 years ago, and are so Right-wing they believe in gun control and gay marriage, like Trump does — are booming. Fox news is booming. (Ugh.) CNN is failing. YET THEY WON’T WRITE STORIES THAT SELL, EVEN TO SAVE THEIR NETWORK. Because it’s not about money, it’s about religion. If only it were about the money we might be saved, but it’s worse than that. Oh, and also that they’re lying, about this, as about everything. Don’t give them this transparent fake excuse.

    “Mass suicide continues.”

    Except it’s NOT a suicide. It’s a murder. Mass murder. Unless you think Flint LIKES lead in their water. “It’s a force that’s bigger than us.” Yes, and they’ve written about the wonderful, salutary, environmental effects of killing us all, every day lately and going back 40 years. Just read. You must be literate by reading this sentence. Just click the mouse. Upper right corner. You can do it! It’s not secret! You can read it! It’s okay. Because it’s not a secret, it’s a plan.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 16 2020 #52766
    Dr. D
    Participant

    For Putin, Raul will probably link tomorrow:

    Putin’s Now Purged the West from the Kremlin

    It’s an opinion. Russia knows Putin will not live forever, and wishes to purge the remaining moles, and set up a more limited, distributed government to avoid the inevitable re-attack of the West to re-take and re-destroy Russia. I can’t get deep enough in to say, but it reads correct to me. You must also remember Russia is more dispositionally authoritarian, they call it “monarchical” than the Anglos (i.e. us). It’s just a way, look at how terribly slow and messy the Anglo method of democracy is. It’s the least bad alternative that suits only is. I.e. not the Middle East, or China. Each have their own ways, which are theirs to have.

    On Q, just what I’m saying about Marine Generals. They can be your allies, but they are not you, nor aligned with you; they have their own plans. Sure, pretty clear he’s from Military Intel Psyops, authorized by Cheeto. And all followers know that, he himself admits it. The problem comes when you think you’re on the same team, with the same plan (The ‘Ineffable Plan’?), as I believe many do, which is why it is high-quality propaganda. That doesn’t make it all not true. The best propaganda IS true. And there’s no reason for them not to, since there’s nothing but high-quality felony targets from Harper’s Ferry to the sea.

    But as the devil, so what happens when they take full power? And you are fully aligned with them, not just in politics, but in your emotion, your mind? Are they going to erase 80% of government as the Constitution requires? Erase the NSA and restore the 4th Amendment? End monopoly billionaires? Stand down the entire army and go back to a Swiss model, as expected by the founders? Not on your life. So it’s easy to see they are true, sure, why not? And also quite false. And that’s even if they — the Q collective — don’t know it or believe it themselves. They could have intentions white as snow, why not? And when Isildur gains the One Ring, what then?

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 16 2020 #52740
    Dr. D
    Participant

    Is it for all time or simply a lark?
    Is it Granada I see or only Asbury park?

    Late in the day as the sun disappears behind Pennsylvania, there is a sign behind them on the boardwalk, the shadow cast in the sand.

    “Warren Told Sanders He Called Her a Liar On National TV (R.)”

    Had to take a break, lost track of everything because everything is a lie, fabricated, logic-free, self-contradicting from every angle. So Bernie called Warren a liar and she took umbrage, but Warren did NOT call Sanders a liar and he can NOT take umbrage. CNN then reports “this is not a he said, she said story.” Why? “Because we reported it” which makes it real, whichever way they reported it, whoever they choose to believe. Pretty average. Just like who we believe with Biden or in Ukraine, or in the Justice department. DoJ says two contradictory things: no surprise. We consider no evidence to decide the matter, have none, and look for none, but simply say our guy is perfect, without stain or flaw, and your guy’s a liar. QED. Just like Idiocracy:

    “uh, your honor I think we have a mistrial or something!
    I’m gonna mistrial my foot up your *ss you don’t shut up!”
    The Judge drops his pants for the courtroom. “GUILTY!!” is scrawled across it.”

    So what do you think history does to people like that? When you think Putin controls all elections on earth and just installed Trump so he could attack all Russian allies and nuke themselves, I’m at a loss of how to re-instate logic. The nation is clearly insane. And as we’ve heard, while “men go mad in herds, they only recover their senses slowly, one by one.” Very slowly. Then never admit they were wrong. Just like eugenics, desegregation, the Red Scare, the Cultural Revolution, or a thousand other things. But they will designate you a villain and kill you by the thousands in the meantime.

    In the meantime, in Idiocracy, we are instead fighting a Twitter avatar of a snake for Warren, which is now has always been a racist sign, and the #CNNisGarbage goes viral. Glad to see we’re spending our time well and fighting the right fight over, say “Brawndo” instead of things like missile strikes or crops.

    Americans Beware! Russia Can Hack Your Brain (Bridge)”

    So as well shown, nothing, no level of proof, discrediting, no possible illogic can or will derail a people like that, lost in madness and worshipping #AntiLogos, illogic, untruth, as their god. Russia hacked ’16 although Obama says they didn’t, and Mueller could find anything, and has already hacked 2020, although it hasn’t happened, to install a President that attacks them and their allies with missiles, agents, and sanctions at every turn. Of course. Makes sense. When you’re #AntiLogos, you always attack and undermine yourself, so why wouldn’t Putin and Russia surround, attack, and nuke themselves? That’s just common sense in a land of madness. And all it took to undermine the whole 230 year U.S. is a gif with a funny caption on it. We’re helpless before the World’s Funniest Joke.

    America collapses like leaves before a nation the size of New Jersey.

    Sen. Rand Paul Says GOP Will Shaft Trump (GP)

    I imagine he is right. They will definitively double-cross him, and he expects and has planned for it. I mean, they’re politicians. It’s psychologically impossible for them not to. Does that have anything to do with law, justice, or fair process? What’s that? We haven’t done that in 100 years.

    Bloomberg Is Wasting His Money Attacking Teflon Don (DC)

    Not really. He’s 80, is he going to take it with him? He’s not polling 10%? No surprise: he only started yesterday. They claim he’s going to keep spending after losing. I’m not sure Federal Elections Law will allow that.

    90 percent of all coverage he received in 2018 was negative.”

    That’s can’t be true. NBC just accused CNN of being violently Pro-Trump only yesterday. Of course I believe them both.

    “Over 40% Of Listed US Companies Don’t Make Money (ZH)”

    As I say every day in #OppositeLand, land of lies. Tesla just had a jump, they are now probably the largest car manufacturer on the planet by market cap but don’t produce any cars. The cars they produce explode. SEC doesn’t follow the stock rigging, NFSB doesn’t look at one new Tesla murder per day. No one notices: they go higher.

    ““It’s Unthinkable” Australia Sells Arms to Countries Accused of War Crimes (G.)”

    Every word of every sentence they say. “Accused?” I just accused Orkney of war crimes. Unthinkable? Every nation on earth is participating in them, as overseen daily by the U.N. What do they think that arms do? You give them to people to use, not to plant flowers in. Ad nauseum. Logic is dead, so be outraged instead.

    Virgin Islands Alleges Epstein Used Private Island to Abuse and Traffic Girls (G.)”

    Whoops, after 30 years of worldwide media reports, we suddenly noticed there was a crime in our jurisdiction. From a guy of whom we are not questioning or arresting what can only be thousands of accomplices and co-trafficking co-felons. And this is considered logical and not unusual.

    While Taleb is true, and people meddling so often causes not cures problems, yet if you go further and insure regular maintenance fires, you will have least trouble of all. But that takes, sacrifice, intelligence, and self-control. Which from yesterday, is quite the hallmark of our species, unless specifically engineered and countered with substantial meddling and force from elsewhere. You know, in the service of Disaster Capitalism, or worse, Disaster of Socialism.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 15 2020 #52739
    Dr. D
    Participant

    The Iraqi government has been threatened with a cut off of access to Fed money … This is even more stupid than the assassination”

    How many thousand times do all the accidents have to point in one direction, how many compasses laid out on the table point each and all to North, before you believe this is not an accident? The compasses are not magic, but have purpose and intent?

    “30 years of war all Iraqis want is the foreigners gone. The US doesn’t have a half a million-man army”

    Hey, no kidding. So these moves will force the U.S. out, whether anyone in the U.S. likes it or not. Just as promised in the ’16 campaign and resisted every day since then by every member of government. So how do you get it done, since if it doesn’t we will be bled dry? And when you do this in the American fashion, you don’t meekly surrender and admit you were wrong. Nevertheless, I don’t see any Marine Hueys in Vietnam. We left somehow. And how was that?

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 14 2020 #52697
    Dr. D
    Participant

    “Healthier Looking Julian Assange Filmed Briefly”
    “Assange May Walk Free Thanks to CIA Bumbling: Former NYT General Counsel”

    What a surprise. Speaking of, the Awan brothers are reappearing too. Then we’d have a lot of talking about what went on in ’16 and before. …But asking is itself an impeachable offense. In a nation of lies, the only crime is finding the truth.

    On the other side, as a major corporation in a corrupt area that no doubt has a ton of dirt as well as negotiating strategy leverage, Burisma suddenly says they’ve been hacked. – Insert surprised face– You’re a CORPORATION, of COURSE you’ve been hacked. You and every other corporation on earth, every day. But although they don’t have anything specific except some guys did some things, they’re sure Vladimir Putin sat down at a keyboard and typed code himself. …And not because it’s crucial to Russia’s gas and oil strategy with their nearest neighbor: heavens no!!! Non-white peoples such as slavs are treated, have no reality, no free agency, no motives of their own. They are but coolies the Swedish girl’s burden must order around! No, these unknown hackers – who must be FSB, and must be from Putin, despite living in the most corrupt, hacked nation on earth – they did it only and EXCLUSIVELY to hurt Joe Biden. OF COURSE!!! RussiaRussiaRussia! You knew they were Jonesing for it. Like all good addicts.

    Moral of the story: all things that happen on earth are FROM Russia, and ABOUT Joe.

    And despite furious attempts otherwise, appears Iran DIDN’T know, and assumed the U.S. shot down their plane for some reason (to have our Deep State, who totally would and probably did arrange it, start WWIII as they published and discussed for 50 years) and are going to go find the poor saps who either were paid or punk’d into doing it. Media now says “Muh, scapegoats, fake trial!”, with no evidence whatsoever of anything, pro or con, ‘cause it could only ever possibly be on earth that Iran is ‘Muslim State Bad’. Thanks, morons of the right, you’re swell. All that fake news you digested back in the 80s is still working a treat. Despite believing nothing now, you still believe everything your heard then. Sigh.

    Point however: are we not wildly closer than ever to a real and lasting peace? Just like NoKo? Not easy, building trust takes time and events. But aren’t we? “Bill Blain: Is Donald Trump Just an Extremely Lucky Guy?” Uh huh. You only get lucky day after day, year after year, because you sit around the White House eating Cheetos and watching cartoons all day. Yup!

    Trying a new spin: Trump authorized the Iran attack 7 months ago (as in, “not because of imminent attack” despite that there WAS an embassy attack, that very minute). Uh, yes, duh. IF the Iranian Guard is a Terrorist organization AND Soleimani is their head, AND was specifically named, as was done years and years ago under Obama, THEN yes, of course, absolutely and by law he is and must be a ‘legal’ target. As said, day 1 of listing under Obama and every day since then, but sure, they probably re-reviewed it seven months ago. So? The only reason that matters is that everyone are such liars that they’re genuinely SURPRISED when their words are turned into action. “Muh, what? Words are supposed to be acted on? Since when? You mean, we actually BELIEVE these things? But wait, I didn’t mean that! God knows what I’ve lied about and said over the years!” Lies upon lies upon lies upon lies upon lies upon lies upon lies upon lies. No one’s turned their lies to action in a generation, no one’s believe anything in a lifetime, so YES they’re surprised and shocked we did something about a guy THEY THEMSELVES targeted.

    Kunstler: Ouch! But not to worry: no one’s arrested.

    UN Draft Plan Sets 2030 Target to Avert Earth’s Sixth Mass Extinction (G.)

    Ah, The Guardian. Synapse-free as ever. Sounds like they better tell China to knock it off with coal and plastics, since it’s all there, not here. …And they’re the only people who aren’t going to do anything, and demand we shut off the electric in Denmark, and Holland, the cleanest place. So signing things that didn’t work last time, no one obeys, is our plan? Well, it’s something, I guess? But any chance we try something people WILL do and DOES work instead?

    Not really. If they don’t get $1T into the economy RIGHT NOW, the compounding interest will take out the system. Doesn’t matter why we print it, but since they’ve lost all the wars, that’s a hard sell.

    Skills like that, they have but we don’t know,

    Wow, noble savage, white man bad. It’s fire? It’s pretty easy, been written down by universities worldwide, but if you’re still embarrassed about it, you can ask. They act like aborigines are weird aliens who can’t/won’t communicate. Nope! It’s our plan to have Australia burn because we’ll never tell you our voodoo spells. Not hard or anything. Matches, fire, season, shovel. Watching with your eyes. Oh and either get rid of all your wood houses or make them mobile. Oops. Similar to farming though: looks easy: seeds, ground, then go sit on the porch. Um, not so much. And no one can tell you in THIS place, on THIS day, with THIS equipment, but IN GENERAL you can do okay. To be great takes experience and talent, but that’s really just caring about the problem and applying yourself. We do this all the time with all sorts of things, which tree to cut, which to leave? How big a clearcut? What kind of ditch? How wide or shallow? When to mow tells which plant you want to seed and favor on this field? And yes, what/when to burn. …Not you suburban CNN-watching peoples though. Plants are a thing on T.V., food grows in plastic wrap on Keebler trees. People don’t actually know what butter is, ikyn. Blows my mind.

    Assange Legal Team Close To Bringing Legal Action Against Belmarsh Prison (Sp.)

    Oops. Assange escapes and testifies before Congress about the DNC servers and how they WERE NOT RUSSIA. Springing him and incriminating them, months before an election. Another lucky accident while Cheeto wanders around like a 5-year-old, knowing nothing, all on accident, like Mr. Magoo.

    Bevan, true enough. But how do you get poverty to vote for you when every year poverty gets worse, race relations get worse, income disparity gets worse, and there’s a defacto-mass shooting every day of every week in Baltimore and Chicago and all the Congressmen and Mayors get rich? There lies the whole art of the Democratic Party. Fair’s fair. Pot, kettle.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 13 2020 #52695
    Dr. D
    Participant

    I’m only literate. I only know what I read. Very first DuckGo hit “Most people don’t realize that there were no honey bees in America until the white settlers brought hives from Europe” in 1622.

    There are native species, but they’re not “bees” as people commonly refer to them, not HONEYbees of any sort – although this search showed me there WAS a Mayan honeybee that exists only at the equator. What bees did we have? Bumble, sweat, mason, hoverbees, wasps, many others, almost all solitary. But the article seemed to say that the honeybee was a scourge to the environment and the native, existing bees. Maybe. Doubt it – they’re a different niche, life cycle, and approach, so expect you’ll find they ADD diversity and are complimentary. I thought they wanted diversity? Want to do a study? But the point was, without honeybees, you don’t have apples, pears, almonds… And you must therefore would only have maize, grasses, etc. Squash is pollinated by both, but CAN be pollinated by non-honeybees – and going the other way, that’s frustrating when environmentalists, journalists – again lacking 30 minutes on Wikipedia – say NO crops would exist without honeybees = we all gonna die. No, once there were no bees, so clearly beans, squash, etc. are native crops who had no trouble pollinating. Others crops would have trouble, but we humans would then pollinate them. Things would change, but the world wouldn’t end. Nevertheless, since they’re doing work for nothing, don’t harm them.

    Lifespan? The reporter alarmingly said, “More bees die every year in the US than all other fish and animals raised for slaughter combined.” True but wtf? More bacteria die in an hour in Pittsburgh toilets than that. So? Also we don’t ‘slaughter’ bees and hang their little carcasses in meat shops. More bees die because they’re smaller and there are more of them. More ants die than bees, and they aren’t either ‘slaughtered’ or intentionally killed either. Is this the world’s largest non sequitur? Knowing that, no one intentionally kills a hive, the bees therefore DIE OF OLD AGE. Now we’re arguing that they die slightly sooner than if they had better conditions: how much better, how much sooner? No one knows, this disingenuine reporter most of all. But they aren’t ‘slaughtered’, basically ever. It’s just the garbage assembly of essentially meaningless emotion-words meant to yank you around. If they can’t think straight, I can’t credit their article on matters I can’t cross-check. What is its purpose then? It’s only meant to say: humans are bad. Hate and death and fear and despair. Okay, okay, I’M SORRY. You got me. I’m SORRY I took care of bees for 10,000 years. I’m SORRY I gave them a whole new continent. I’m SORRY we gave them ever-more nutritious plants and are breeding a whole new almond for them. I’m SORRY I fought off their predators. I’m sorry I built them 2.68 million homes and I’m sorry we’re taking them to a doctor to fix both mites and colony collapse now. If it makes everyone feel better they can live in a hollow tree and be as rare like the wolverine, but maybe we should let the bees vote on it for themselves? Hey, how do you feel about living in a virgin pine forest with no human clearings or crops around, and live in a hollow tree in -20f weather all winter? Better or worse than now? You’ll be free bees with all the Liberty and self-determination due to your kind.

    Then to my next question, which is: are we humans any less murdered, less free, or less abused than they? Hardly. Probably worse, our peoples are too different to say. But that IS in fact part of the point of their (natural) deaths. We naturally die too, yes, and we too are not important in the big scheme either. Nature rolls on and on, one day without us. So if 550M people died in the last 10 years, but it’s almost all from natural causes, then…what? So bees are slaughtered…of natural causes by old age?

    That doesn’t make the die-off not an issue, but we’ve learned a lot of things here: one, food and pollination will go on adequately, despite alarmist reporters. Since that’s the case, and bees are okay, being 2.8M hives this year, up by 200,000, what’s the article for? To terrify you unnecessarily and unscientifically. To jerk on your heart strings while removing you from logic. And I think this is bad reporting. So next, mites have long existed, but not as hard-hitting until now. Why? CCD didn’t exist, or wasn’t large enough to be known before 2006. Why? Now there’s a reporter’s question. Monsanto and others have been savaged on the weakening of bees caused by exposure to glyphosate and neonicotinoids, as well as a very specific termite poison that causes…ta da…CCD in termites, the bees’ closest relative: it makes them lose their way back home. Comments on this in Guardian article? No. Companies, brands, lawsuits? Nope. “Pesticides” mentioned generically. Monsanto could have written this article themselves, it’s so helpful to them. Generic “transform the way large-scale agriculture is carried out.” I mean, all things can generally be improved, so yes? How though? “these enormous orchards can’t function without bees.” No then? I’m lost: what do you want from me? So change things without changing them? Typical do-gooder: “Whaaah, it’s not perfect!” “Okay, any suggestions that won’t kill everyone on earth?” “Nope: you figure it out, you do the hard work, while I complain about how YOU SUCK on the internets and sip my GMO soy glyphosate Starbucks with a straw.” Thanks, very helpful.

    What I see from wild hives – and nothing in this article, thanks – is that backyard bees in wild fields away from modern crops are under noticeable pressure that would otherwise be remarkable, particularly mites. However, not at alarmist levels. At the same time, bees in agri-business – saying GMOs, pesticides, glyphosate – are under another whole level of trouble. Then bees which travel on trucks are worst of all. Why? Bet the pesticides ARE hurting them, and the more “modern” the field, the worse, while they also travel to areas in the South with the new termite poisons: no termites live up North. However, even after all this, it’s violently denied by the companies (of course: ‘safe as water’), but also no clean evidence from beekeepers generally who almost certainly could know for sure by now. That’s confusing: is there no evidence or are they saving $100B fine by doctoring the evidence? But again, why 2006?

    Although I can’t run in circles pulling my hair — because as you say, pollination will be fine and we’re not going to die – I DO care about the bee thing specifically. Mainly because it can put pressure on these guys – chemical conglomerates, not so much farmers – to STOP KILLING EVERYTHING, to save the bees, and thus themselves and their own yields. But that’s because they DON’T care about every fish, frog, and Christopher Robin wading in Pooh sticks and are joyful to poison every living things right out to sea, while paying exorbitant profits to monopolies and proven serial murderers for the privilege. This could get a wedge in we otherwise might not.

    But with Guardian articles fact-free, written muddily (like native vs imported bees), and wandering around alarmed and fearful of everything human = bad, we’re not going to stop pesticides at all, are we? And therefore waste all our time, let Monsanto go, kep poisons rolling, and do nothing for the bees either. That’s what I’m really up to here.

    But if you like bees, then why not help them yourself? Get a hive, grow plants, stop spraying. It’ll do more than hot air on the internet. Suggest borage or buckwheat. Very easy. If you prefer wild, mason bee huts are available on the internets.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 13 2020 #52670
    Dr. D
    Participant

    In a surprise to exactly no one: “Facebook Glitch Reveals Greta Thunburg’s Father Posting As Teenage Climate Activist” …and UN’s Climate Change organization, Adarsh Prathap. “Greta claims to have written all the content posted by her father and Prathap.”

    Another environmentalist, another lie.

    I mean aside from Columbia openly having lectures saying they planned and staged the whole thing with signed buy-in from scores of media outlets who promised to invent coverage and salt otherwise ordinary stories with unrelated AGW stuff, with the Green handler behind her in every photo.

    Guys, you are not helping the cause here. You’ve probably done more to harm it than anything I can think of, even Obama (pipeline, drilling, ANWR) and George Bush (near-permanent environmental death in two different Gulfs). And we haven’t even started with the real backlash such as we now see in Chappelle, Gervais, and political correctness. The world is actually IN trouble: there are actual things wrong. Is it too much to ask to focus on that and NOT lie about it, about totally normal or unrelated things? Nope. And it mirrors TDS: Step 1: lie about everything you don’t need to, don’t have to, and harms yourself. Step 2: never tell the truth even when it helps your cause. Is it any wonder people think you’re crazy, even extreme? Meantime guys like Elon Musk are burning nations of diesel with Caterpillars leveling mountains, then lighting all the lithium on fire so he can charge his cars with diesel and coal, while Monsanto forces Europe to eat Roundup in every meal.

    Can we start somewhere normal, like encouraging people to have honeybees, then stopping the poisons that kill us both? A: No. There’s no profit and concentration of power in that. Only in Greta and the worldwide Carbon Tax. Otherwise, you think they’d post her? No way. If she’s on line, there’s a profit or a lie somewhere. If there weren’t, they’d shut her out like everybody else.

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