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The response is an exercise for me to examine my own reasons. It also helps to defuse emotions that were just under the surface, since I am smoldering over the discrimination I’ve experienced, the perfidy of our governments with this Covid/vax stuff, and anxiety over the eventual showdown that this may cause between myself and my ex. I’ll be keeping the words that I wrote today and may use some of the ideas if I am ever obligated to deal with it head on. The exercise was multipurpose.
@ deflationista
Is the that *best* you can do? Try to raise doubt about the accuracy of the VAERS data? Really?
LOL.
(My sons are taking geometry right now, so I have geometry proofs on the brain.)
Very often, the best kind of experience to rely on is real-life, lived experience. It is often wise to then compare that to aggregate experience of others.
Risk to my children
1) My children have already been directly exposed to Covid at least twice. They did not get sick. Gave them multiple PCR tests, that all came out negative. (Which is why I’m skeptical of the “95% false positive PCR test results” spin.) My daughter’s antibody test came out negative. My only conclusion is that the innate immune systems of my teen kids kicked out Covid so fast that they never got sick.
2) My household, my parents, and my sister’s (2 adults, 5 kids) all had Covid sweep through. Nobody got sick enough to go to the hospital. Not even those with health issues.
3) Next, I look at the stats: 99.8% survival.
Therefore: the risk is so small that it is in line with the risks that they face every day just by waking up and getting out of bed.
NOTE: All of these conclusions are based on (a) actual symptoms that I observed or that were related to me by direct observers, (b) actual results from PCR tests, (c) actual results from antibody tests, (d) basic understanding of how the adaptive/innate immune systems work, (e) official statistics about the survival rate of those infected with Covid.
Efficacy of the vaccine
4) Myriads of data are now showing us that the vaccine protection wanes after 3/5/6/8 months.
5) Increasingly, the newer variants have some degree of variation which increasingly escapes the antibodies produced by the vaccine.
6) The vaccine, by ramping up the adaptive immune system, diminishes the protection of the innate immune system. It was likely the innate immune system that kept my kids from getting sick when they were previously exposed to covid – diminishing their innate immune system in this way strikes me as foolish.
Therefore: The vaccine, in general, shows diminishing effectiveness that is possibly eclipsed by the innate immune system protection that my real-lived experience suggests protected my children from sickness.
Note: (a) length of protection from vaccine and ability of variants to escape the vaccine-induced antibodies comes from several published medical research papers, (b) basic understanding of how the adaptive/innate immune systems work.
Dangers of the vaccine
7) I personally know 5 people who have been injured by the vaccine. I know one more person who is a “maybe.” My sister’s friend knows 2 more who have potentially been injured by the vaccine. I know if 3 people who have died from Covid. One I knew personally – it was a middle school teacher of mine, hadn’t seen him in over 30 years. 2 others were known personally by people that I know.
8) One of the people that I know who was injured by the vaccine now has myocarditis – an enlarged aorta. Her heart pain started right after the 2nd jab. She’d had an EKG just months before her vaccination, and had none of those problems prior.
9) The VAERS, Yellow Card, and EudraVigilance data.
10) The fact that when people are trying to tell their stories about vaccine injury the mainstream is shutting them down. (Groups on FB shut down.)
11) Published medical studies about the deleterious effects of the spike protein.
12) The letter from FDA to BioNTech “approving” Comirnaty that commissioned several studies that relate to safety.
13) UK advisory group that decided not to recommend vaxxes for 12-15 year olds. FDA already held a group to discuss this issue back in June AND commissioned the study specifically on myo- pericarditis that won’t be completed for YEARS.
Not only all of this, I READ much of the report from 10 years ago about VAERS that found that it captured only a fraction of vaccine injuries a decade ago. The government didn’t act to make any improvements. And you want me to believe some little disclaimer about VAERS reports not being fully examined? (Examined by the very agencies that are pushing the overblown covid narrative.)
I could go off of my lived, first hand experience alone. Or I could add to it just the articles in published medical journals. Or add in the VAERS and similar databases. Or add in the world stats that show fewer cases in lower vaxxed countries right now.
The *only* data out there that suggests that I should get my kids vaxxed comes from politico types who are well-funded and buddy-buddy with the billionaires. C’mon deflationista – you expect me to trust THEM when all my lived experience tells me not to, and over all of this evidence to the contrary? LMAO
I would be a fool to get my children vaccinated.
(I wouldn’t have responded, but my mind was having such a fun time coming up with the response and my fingers were itching to type.)
Re Denninger
His reason for not permitting his daughter to get the HPV vaccine is essentially the same reason that I didn’t give it to my own teens. The risk was significantly greater than their prior vaccinations. There was no guarantee that it would be for the correct strain. And I knew that It would be difficult for me to live if I authorized the vaccine and my child was damaged as a result. How could I look my child in the eye if he/she were harmed?
I’ve thought about that with the Covid vaccines. I’ve told my boys: it is six times more dangerous for you to get the vaccine than Covid.
Meanwhile, my ex’s GF’s father died of Covid last week. I wonder if he was vaxxed.
The White House plan doesn’t address my questions…but it looks like it only is for employees. From the plan:
“ . Studies released by the CDC found that the rate of hospitalization for children was nearly four times higher in states with the lowest vaccination rates compared to states with high vaccination rates.”
Citation? And is this the overall rate of hospitalization for children? Or just children hospitalized who happen to have a positive PCR test? Or children admitted to the hospital with Covid symptoms + PCR positive? And, what are the dates in question? Only one third of al children are currently eligible for vaccines by age, there is no correlation here to % of CHILDREN vaccinated, the vaccine doesn’t stop transmission…so explain how much do these stats even tell us?
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This is an attack on our federalist system — in AZ the legislature outlawed mask mandates and the governor made a portion of school funding contingent upon following ALL state laws. Now the feds are going to go behind the governor’s back and give these schools the funding anyhow? This is like when two parents are feuding and giving conflicting instructions to the children, making the children the proxy battleground. This is inappropriate.
“ The west Michigan hospital system, which is in the process of merging with Southfield-based Beaumont Health, will grant an exemption to those who have a positive PCR or antigen test for COVID-19 plus a positive antibody test from within the past three months”
Um…do both the positive Covid test and the antibody test have to be within the past 3 months? Or just the antibody test? If it is both, then this is a useless, temporary exemption. “Oh, sure, you can miss the FIRST round of vaccinations, but we’ll get you with endless boosters on the other side if you want to keep your job.”
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Regarding news about the virus, etc.
It is tiresome but it is immediately relevant.I currently teach one piano lesson per week through a local musical non-profit. They don’t pay me enough, but as long as I don’t have to travel anywhere, the student is excited about piano and fun to teach. I sometimes get paid to teach classes at the local retirement community. For both, I get paid off of a 1099. I keep wondering…is Biden’s new rule just mean “employees” or “workers?” If “employees,”.these two jobs will continue. If “workers,” the jobs will not continue. Now, both of these sources of income are lower pay than my other income generating activities, so they are the easiest for me to let go. And, actually, if the music place “let me go” the student’s parent would contact me to set up lessons directly, which would mean me getting my normal rate for teaching the lessons — better for me. If the retirement community “let me go” it would be a great example to those who asked me to teach of the lunacy of what is going…as I’ve taught there virtually for more than a year, and I’m immune while their vaccines don’t confer immunity.
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(Gee whiz…now I’m wondering how many of us on TAE have chickens…)
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TDK
Thx for FB link. It is heartening to skim through all of the comments of people annoyed that the news station is ignoring “the real story” on the ground and instead fishing for the “official” story.I take a “soft” approach when I am trying to convince vaxxed family and friends to prophylax with vitamins and minerals.
I take a “firm” approach when friends approach me with: “Will you reconsider getting vaccinated now that you see how safe it is?” Likewise when vaxxed spout mis-information.
Beyond that, I make statements that can be used as wedges, if the person I’m talking with takes the bait I can go farther, until I sense that their cognitive dissonance is kicking in. I discovered that my vaxxed sister is skeptical of the need to mask, and gave her good information about that. Next will be talking about immunity building vitamins and minerals.@ Polder Dweller: “ I’ve got loads of stats at my fingertips so they’re going to have to come up with something really good to convince me.”
I suspect that *nothing* the person you are debating with says will be able to convince you that their position is “right.” At best, if you don’t have the correct stat at your fingertip you may feel uneasy and frustrated (which may push you to find another stat to add to your arsenal for future verbal sparring.). The unease and frustration is cognitive dissonance. If your mind can’t be changed by this discussion, will theirs be changed?
In a video I watched yesterday (Reiner Fuellmich interviewing Brian Geller, I believe) a quote from Saul Alinsky was mentioned, how important it is in messaging to make it personal. Steve Petty (Sr Industrial Hygienist, Petty Podcasts) mentioned that emotional appeals are the most effective way to convince others and logic is the least effective method.
For this reason, when I do talk to covidian cultists about the vaccine I mention that following vaccination my aunt lost the ability to walk, that a client and friend of 15 years suddenly has a multitude of health problems that directly followed her second vax. If they are approachable, this helps them to understand my reticence — despite their lived experience of “Covid vax=safe and effective” they can understand that despite the words of experts MY lived experience does not reflect “safe.” Also, all of my vaxxed friends *have* understood my position of “I survived Covid, am immune and don’t need the vaccine” despite the opposing mainstream view.
Yesterday, domestic partner and I attended an anti-war rally for an hour in a park. The temperature was over 100 degrees. The rally was sponsored by the Arizona Libertarian Party, and supported by the Arizona Green Party. Maybe 30 people were there, other than those with the sponsoring and supporting groups. They had a long program with several speakers. The words were nice…but they were nothing new, I’ve heard it all before. Yes, the US should stop its foreign military aggressive engagements. Preaching about it now, writing names of 9/11 deceased on yellow pinwheels, isn’t going to make a difference. The ALP’s table had a diagram and quiz that tried to manipulate you into believing that, deep down, you really are a Libertarian, and just never knew it. I told the lady I had some interest in anarchist syndicalism and am planning to read an article on municipalism. She latched into the word “anarchy” and supposed that I wouldn’t find any anarchists there.
Partner and I are so tired of 1 to many forms of communication. It is fine to watch a recorded video or read an article — these forms of communication simply ARE one to many, and that can’t be helped. But here we were, maybe 100 people total, and instead of talking with each other we sit in our groups in the shade and passively listen to nice words that we already agree with. We are preached at. What a loss of opportunity! Maybe after lockdowns and social distancing I am appreciating human social interaction more than before. Maybe I am thinking about the lockdowns in Australia and New Zealand. I realized that I cherish the comments section on TAE – yes, it goes on tangents, it contains rants, sometimes someone gets tetchy or silly or foolish…but it breaks “the fourth wall,” and we communicate, many with the many.
@ Dr D
<<“Never Forget” has a whooole different meaning to some of us who know how to count to 3. Buildings that is. “>>Exactly. When the first two buildings fell I thought it was very odd that it looked like a controlled demolition. When the third building fell, I knew: “Something is not right.” As more information came in during the next days, weeks, months, years I was looking for how the third building (#7) fell. I never got one. 20 years. I have never wavered. Something is not right. I *know* there is something huge that has been hidden.
Remember how Neo, in The Matrix, gets to the point that he can see the code?
I had a moment like that today. Watch watching the first segment of this: https://www.bitchute.com/video/OhmaWorvna6o/ (tucker carleson tonight with substitute)
It goes over Biden’s wacked out and crazy mandate that businesses mandate vaccination. And then it covers how “the doctors on CNN and MSNBC” are reacting to Biden’s mandate.
– Biden didn’t go far enough.
– there should also be a digital vaccine passport
– ban unvaccinated travel in november
– vaccination should be required for interstate travel: planes, trains, and busesThey all seem to be reading the same script. They are preparing their viewers to accept travel restrictions on the unvaccinated.
I have a crystal ball. The smoke inside is murky, but it is beginning to coalesce into…restricting the travel of the unvaccinated. This is maddening.
Re upstateNYer
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Sorry, but without seeing the actual pathology tests run and the results of those tests, I ain’t buying it. Just what DID that person die from then? Blood clots that caused a heart attack or a stroke … that originated why?? Would need far more details before I buy into the BS that the vaccine couldn’t be the catalyst.”Exactly. When my 80+ year old friend has a “mini-stroke” and is diagnosed with high blood pressure and “micro-clots”…I suggested it could be the vaccine. She said, no way, I had the vaccine 5 months ago. I could push it no further. So when there is talk of needing a booster she goes to her primary care doctor and gets jab #3, 2 months after the “mini-stroke”…her husband is in a nursing facility. He, also, is a dear friend. I have not seen him for 18 months. I cannot visit him because I am “unvaccinated.” For her, the decision is clear…she will jump through any hoop placed in front of her so that she can see her husband regularly. A year ago she was paying for 2 Covid tests per week to see him. Her priorities are clear.
Fauci: “what is the durability (of natural infection) compared to the vaccine.”
Actually, the study out of Israel DOES address the first stage of durability, and shows that the strong natural immunity response has increased effectivity at 3 months over one month as compared to the vaccine.
And other studies address longer intervals of natural immunity.
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I read the recent GVB piece last night. Wow. I suspect that he is correct in his predictions. He sees the leaky Covid vaccine as catastrophic simply from the perspective of the pressure it puts on the virus to mutate — he isn’t even contemplating medical dangers from the vaccine itself to the recipient. He predicts that the outcome for the vaccinated who contract Covid will soon be much, much worse than when the unvaccinated catch Covid. I don’t like wishing I’ll things to happen, but if it is inevitable, I hope that he is correct and that we will see this by the end of the winter. As a parent, I need to keep my kids safe from potential harms — even when they are teens — and I fear as pressure ramps up to get vaccinated the only thing that will ultimately allow me to prevent it will be widespread illness in death in the vaccinated. To that end, the more that the unvaccinated get sick, have immunity, and refuse vaccination (maintaining a control group) the more stark the comparison will be. The mud will be the Covid survivors who subsequently get vaccinated and the vaccinated who survive Covid and also have natural immunity, before the variants completely evade the vaccine. GVB doesn’t address either of those groups…it doesn’t seem that anyone understands fully the dynamics in those two groups.
To comment on what I just wrote…
Biden: “ “We will always err on the side of protecting the American people””
Me: “ I need to keep my kids safe from potential harms”I’m going to qualify my statement, because it isn’t universal. As a parent of teens I need to protect my kids from harms that are outside of their current ability to protect themselves. In some areas of their life they are quite mature, and it is their responsibility to protect themselves. I don’t hold their hands when we cross the street any more — in fact, I’m not anywhere nearby. When I comes to the intricacies of the science of Covid, the vaccines, immunity and the perfidy of governments…they don’t have the maturity and experience to grasp the intricacies of the situation, so this is an area where I act to protect. It would be unhealthy parenting to supervise my teens crossing the road…this is what the Biden Admin doesn’t understand.
Same goes for federal government…it is their job to protect us from military invasions, to have experts who are responsible to the people (not big Pharma) who can adequately advise us on public health. But it’s our responsibility to understand the risk of an endemic pathogen and decide how we will respond.
Girl reading…
I find myself wanting to know the content of the letter….
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@ boiling frog regarding ivm safety data: “ Wish i could recall the data, but it’s out there.”
John Day reviewed the data earlier this week.
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So…did some work for clients at the local retirement community the past two days. They are raising costs for their residents. They are telling residents that it is because with the pandemic they have not been able to fill all of their units. I like speculating between the lines:
– is this because seniors are more hesitant to live in communities with a pandemic on the loose? Or, do prospective not like the idea of all of the community imposed Covid rules?
– is this because many more residents have died in the past 18 months than is usual?
– is this because they are finding it necessary to pay their employees more? They had only *strongly encouraged* vaccination of employees up to now, but part of their facility is a nursing home, and I’m sure they have more than 100 employees. I noticed yesterday on their digital marquee that they are advertising that they are hiring low level staff. These new federal vaccine mandates are likely to compound their difficulties in getting staff.~~~~~~
My sister and brother in law have 5 kids; the youngest is about 2. Where he works has been threatening layoffs for months, and he had just decided to accept a voluntary severance package rather than to see if his job got axed with no severance package. My sister has primarily been a stay at home mom, and homeschools their kids. Their family already survived Covid and is unvaxxed. My sister was preparing to apply for a job with the large corporation she worked for prior to having children, so that one of them would be employed while he transitions to self-employment. Biden may have just rained out that plan…..
<< “Mandates Promote Freedom!”>>
Ahh.
The uneasy feeling when lived life is trying to out-Orwell George Orwell.
Positively Orwellian.CDC is buying Google ad space to debunk vaccine shedding:
COVID-19 & Vaccine Shedding – Get Your Questions Answered
Ad·
https://www.cdc.gov/
Individuals who received a COVID-19 vaccine cannot shed the vaccine components. None of the U.S. authorized vaccines contain a live virus so it is not possible to shed it.
Debunk Misconceptions · COVID-19 Vaccine Facts · Key Things To KnowBut the claim is not that “vaccine components” are being shed, the claim is that the spike proteins created by the body are being shed. We know that they are in the blood…it makes sense that they’d be elsewhere in the body as well.
“ about 950,000 people are getting vaccinated each day, according to data provided by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).”
Of course…but that doesn’t mean that the vaccine recipients are receiving the 1st dose. Approved or not, many are already receiving the third dose. I already know one recipient of the third dose, (she says her doctor’s office was full of folks there for shot #3, doc was handing out both Pfizer and Moderna jabs, on demand.). Most of those whom I know that took two doses are now making plans for the third.
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Symptoms from infection of Covid spike proteins shed by the vaccinated..
Wait. I had a very mild headache that did not respond well to Advil or Tylenol for three days over the weekend. I seldom get headaches, and usually they respond to either Advil or Tylenol. It was odd. I wasn’t particularly stressed and I had no other symptoms of being unwell. I spent about 3 hours Friday morning with someone who had received her third Moderna jab a couple days prior. I probably breathed in a lot of spike protein. Maybe THAT was the cause of the headache??
Oh, how fascinating…Def is characterizing the people here to be just like all these other schmucks he’s known in person. Peace to you, Deflationista.
Each one of us is who each of us is.
ACLU: “[The covid vaccines] protect the most vulnerable, people with disabilities and fragile immune systems, children too young to be vaccinated, and communities of color hit hard by the disease.”
NO they DON’T!!!!!! Not when HEALTHY people take them, they do none of this!
I’m getting so, so, so very tired of all of this GAS-LIGHTING!These leaky vaccines only offer temporary, marginal protection to the RECIPIENT. Healthy people getting them is actually detrimental to those whose health is so bad that they would be benefitted from the vaccine — because it gives the virus more opportunities to “learn” how to outwit the antibodies created by the virus. If healthy people weren’t vaccinated, then the virus wouldn’t have so many opportunities to “learn” the vaccine evasion tactics. This is LUNACY.
Anyone who wants the damn clot shots are welcome to the damn clot shots. But you can take your mandates and shove them where the sun doesn’t shine!
(Apologies for the written form of yelling. Spent a few hours today with a client I’ve known for 15 years who was injured by the Moderna vaccine 2nd dose. [When I talk about her to my children I remind them that she is the lady who would give them cookies when they came over.] She is trying to find a doctor willing to write a note to the retirement community to excuse her from any boosters so that she won’t be denied access to certain activities because she has decided to get off of the vaccination train, and soon 3rd shots will be required for those activities. Her mild kidney disease is now much more severe, her aorta is inflamed, one of her heart valves is leaking a little, and she is having a problem breathing that has not been sufficiently diagnosed yet. She had recent bloodwork and an EKG a few months prior to vaccination and the heart pain started right after the 2nd shot. Now this sweet woman is dealing with health issues she never had previously.)
<< The NIH, too, pulled together the initiative at breakneck speed. Funding for such a study would typically take years to see approval. “We were worried this was contributing to vaccine hesitancy in reproductive-age women,” said Bianchi.>>
Rest assured, the study will not suggest that women not get the vaccine. The study is to better understand the issue so that a more effective messaging campaign can be developed targeting women of childbearing years who are currently vaccine hesitant.
It nicely shows how much the “safe and effective” mantra was a lie. And how there were definitely unknowns about this vaccine program — i.e. not all of the potential side effects were known.
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Regarding upset and masked college professors…I have a friend who is an elementary school teacher in his fifties who quit his job at the end of the 2020-2021 school year because he refused to teach masked. He is now “employed” (mostly room and board) by a family with a large number of children in Texas who decided to keep them home in preparation to finding property where they can live off-grid.
Emotions run high on all sides.
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<< Last week, the American Civil Liberties Union claimed, to the shock of many, that mandatory vaccination actually bolsters civil liberties and that the right to bodily autonomy is not “absolute.” >>
WWTTFF?????
Well, ACLU just lost all credibility in my book.
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Regarding ivermectin & sperm — the study doesn’t analyze the more relevant question: are the changes in sperm temporary or permanent? Men are making sperm regularly. If there are several malformed ones during and immediately following ivermectin treatment then that is good to know…but if the problem resolved after use of ivermectin has ceased, then it isn’t that big of a deal.
(But no curly tail sperms. That’s too bad. I always thought those ones were the best of the malformed variety.)
Somehow, I suspect the changes are not permanent. If they were permanent, TPTB wouldn’t be so dead set against ivermectin.
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Or the stupidity of people that think an open door can keep out a mosquito or that a mask can keep out an aerosolized virus. Yawn.
It’s starting to be that the majority are wearing masks in stores again. Even Home Depot. Idiots.
Only two good reasons to wear masks: (1) cold temperature, (2) avoid facial recognition software
So, if Idahoan schools have doors and Windows cracked in the winter to provide ventilation and this causes the schools to be colder than usual — THAT is a good reason to wear masks, and would actually reduce covid transmission.
Regarding “global warming” — that narrative serves the elites. Why? They know that energy is one of the keys to wealth. A push to new forms of energy is a way they can make money. By focusing on energy, rather than on industrial pollution or planned obsolescence, they ensure that they remain dominant, and distract the masses.
@ tinfoil hatted
There are so many…but at his age the peri- and myocarditis really stand out. You might start with the comirnaty FDA “approval” letter where FDA mandates a study of peri- and myocarditis that doesn’t end for several years (it ends either 2025 or ‘27).You can find the letter here: https://www.fda.gov/emergency-preparedness-and-response/coronavirus-disease-2019-covid-19/comirnaty-and-pfizer-biontech-covid-19-vaccine
The data there also reveals that there have been NO studies on whether or not the vaccines are carcinogenic.
Re Raul’s Han tweet
The people are being prepared by the GloboCaps to accept vaccine injuries as “worth it” for the nebulous protection of the vaccine. The vaccine injured will be held up as heroes. The family members who survive loved ones deceased via vaccine will be lauded for their “sacrifice.” Those of us who cry out that this was all unnecessary will be given “death stares” by the covidian cult true believers.
(My 13 year old daughter will have bright economic future giving classes in how to make really good death stares at the scapegoats. She has already displayed a prescient brilliance in this skill.)
@ chris_gee
Is this the study you were referencing?
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4178831/<<Thus, future vaccines against emerging coronaviruses should emphasize the generation of a memory CD8 T cell response for optimal protection.>>
I cannot recollect ANY studies of vaccinated folks that determine whether or not the spike protein generating vaccines create memory CD8 T cell response. I remember a couple studying Covid survivors who found that response and posited that, therefore, the same should happen with the vaccines…but has ANY study verified this?
There are a lot of good qualities to the current “capitalist” system. For one, there is no overt authority telling me what my job or employment will be. There are A LOT of problems with the current “capitalist” system. For brevity, I’m going to assume we’re aware of these. There are a lot of problems with the various “really existing” socialist/communist systems — also going to assume we’re familiar with them. There are some positives — socialized medicine is often touted — and it has its attractions. However, in the middle of a psyop pandemic, socialized medicine has some severe drawbacks (too much organized, top-down control.)
If Marx’s ideas were distilled down to one, simple principle it would likely be that the workers own the means of production. (And, no — I don’t mean a political party owns the means of production and administers it on the behalf of the workers.).
As a people, we really haven’t tried that in a significant way. It has a few names: workers coop, workers self directed enterprise. There are some related concepts that are close but don’t quite make it: ESOP, holacracy. There are a few examples of it here and there. (Mondragon in Spain comes to mind.). Oh, and it also includes sole proprietorships with no on-going employees, family farms, etc.
Here’s the thing: it doesn’t need to be called Marxism or socialism — calling it that will only confuse people. It is inherently democratic. It is intensely local and keeps the decisions close to their application. When the owners are the workers they don’t ship their own jobs overseas and they are less likely to pollute their own backyards and more likely to implement reasonable safety standards. Trying this out doesn’t need to involve coercive force — it is a choice, and if it is successful, it will spread. It empowers people, rather than disempowering them. It encourages people to be responsible to themselves and to the group — we need both to have a smoothly functioning society. It still encourages people to work hard and to innovate — hard work, progressive innovation, experience, and skill are rewarded by higher compensation. And…because this model is not transferring a huge portion of the profit (in this model called surplus) to owners/shareholders and executives, it can run “leaner” than current large corporations, providing good pay to the owner/employees, and competing with current large corporations in the market.
To me, this is the answer to Ayn Rand’s Atlas Shrugged…oh ye captains of industry, thank you for leaving us all behind, now we can get on with living without your narcissism warping everything. The biggest obstacle is that, quite frankly, most folks are unfamiliar with how to get along in a peer based organization and are always expecting a “leader” to call the shots — they have learned helplessness.
It is a big obstacle. Of course, a huge systemic crash may help people start to think for themselves and to look to their peers, rather than to authority, for aid. It is what happened in the US during the Great Depression, before FDR’s programs got off the ground, which programs served to encourage the masses to look to the federal government and Democratic Party as their saviors.
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Maybe ivermectin blocks the telomere shortening by the Covid spike protein? Maybe “they” already knew this from animal studies? Just a shot in the dark.
If the HEPA filters on the HVAC installed recently work…
Then why is the school district defying AZ law and mandating masks?If the HEPA filters and/or the masks work…
then why are all of the students sitting in proximity the day before a student tests positive rounded up and sent home to quarantine?(I’d be curious to know how many Covid cases actually develop during all of these quarantines.)
The Constitution says that if it’s not delineated in the Constitution it is an area left up to the states. Legally, state law trumps CDC guidelines. In practice, CDC guidelines establish legal precedent in litigation, therefore the district gets better CYA by following the CDC rather than AZ law. The best interest of the children is left in the dust.
REAL live mask expert weighs in at school board meeting in Grandville (I don’t know where that is) on Aug 19, 2021.
https://rumble.com/vlfp37-literal-mask-expert-opens-a-can-on-school-board.html
She is an occupational hygienist — apparently this is the profession that actually studies and advises this stuff, and the profession is being side-stepped during this covidian madness.
Darkmatter “ Only knowing people who die will get people to reconsider.”
Either that or obvious vaccine adverse reactions. But even those two situations are subverted by the narrative in many cases. (Case in point: friend with mini-stroke and micro lots in 80s who cannot connect that diagnosis with the jabs.). I’m concerned that it may take many, many people dying/very sick and vaccinated/vaccine injured so that it becomes obvious via anecdote that the vaccines are deadly. But the vaccines may not be deadly/morbid enough for that outcome to come about. Alternatively, if enough of us refuse vaccination, are dismissed from public life, and public life ceases to function for the vaxxed, that can cause the mandates to be relaxed, but it won’t necessarily break the covidian cult, it may just cause the cult leaders to shift tactics.<< , that’s a lot of children who will be infected and that will be a lot of disruption to schools in the coming months.”>>
No, it isn’t the infections that will cause a lot of disruptions in the schools, it is the mandatory quarantines required of the unvaccinated children. “Reality” causes school disruptions, while true reality, if observed, would cause no more disruptions than do the average colds and flus.
My 3 kids just completed their fourth week of school. (Yes, schools start early in Phoenix, AZ.). I the third week, one son was exposed to a student with Covid. The result: essentially, a one week suspension that wasn’t his fault. (And for a week I became his Spanish and geometry teacher.). The fourth week the other son narrowly missed a Covid exposure…in art class for the rest of the week he sat at his desk, and all the students immediately around him were not at school — quarantined. But the vaxxed aren’t required to quarantine, per the cdc, and I can see where this leads: pressure to vax students so that they don’t have to quarantine when exposed. But…we don’t need any of this “reality.” We could go back to true reality and treat Covid like any other minor respiratory illness.
I find myself hoping that the vaxxed students will start obviously passing Covid to one another because they are not required to quarantine so that we can see how stupid this situation is. However, not keeping my hopes up because the infection is simply too mild in most cases, especially with teens.
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I am trying to chart a course where I balance fighting “reality” with my commitments to my children.
– my daughter is depressed, but talks with me. She insists on masking in stores, etc., and sometimes asks me to as well when she is with me. My relationship with my troubled daughter is more important than fighting “reality”…but it rankles me. I am contemplating ignoring the mask mandate when I am in her school’s office — but is that a good idea? I need the school people to see me in a positive light, to take what I say about my daughter seriously, and I know that her father will put me down to others and try to win them to his side against me. He did this in the past, and the legal fight that ensued has me deeply in debt. Of course, it is also possible that the school staff agrees with me about the district’s illegal mask mandate (violates Arizona law), can’t afford to defy it, because they need the income and may appreciate my open defiance.
– I am self-employed, which means that my income is largely tied to the relationships that I establish with clients. The upshot: no one can mandate that I be vaxxed. The downside: no one is obligated to engage my services. Fortunately, at least half of my work was remotely done before the start of the pandemic. I find when on-site that I am a chameleon, masking or not as preferred by the client. I have three children that depend on me to provide life’s necessaries. I can’t afford to jeopardize my income.~~~~~~~~~
Re sumac.carol “ Are we on the cusp of a move away from a capitalism-centred world”
I hope so…but I would hope that it leads to something that is an improvement on capitalism, leading to more freedom, rather than less. The TPTB seem to have other ideas in mind. (Neo-feudalism?)
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“ Economist journalists updated their a model of the true death toll of the pandemic”
Because they needed to show that the pandemic caused more deaths in India and Russia than in the virtuous Western countries. That way the “facts” support the official narrative (“reality.”)~~~~~~~~~~
Re Cindy Vela meme
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/08/29/fact-check-fake-cnn-article-covid-19-victims-last-words/5616484001/
“ The claim is an example of “stolen satire,” in which made-up claims published and labeled as satire are captured via screenshot and reposted in a way that makes them appear to be legitimate news. As a result, readers of the second-generation post are misled, as was the case here.”Yet it was widely shared and believed on both sides.
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I Have Not Been Silenced (Malcolm Kendrick) “For each fact, there is an equal and opposite fact.”
I’d suggest that while there is certainly plenty of opposite information, I disagree about calling all of it “facts” and I disagree that there is equality in the information. Yes, there are studies that suggest ivermectin is helpful for Covid and studies that suggest that it is not. That doesn’t mean that the studies are equivalent.The SF study — yes…it was a small enough, localized study that what it found (different variants for vaxxed/unvaxxed) doesn’t necessarily hold true generally or everywhere, but it does strongly suggest that the unvaccinated place one type of evolutionary pressure on the virus while the vaccinated place a different evolutionary pressure on the virus. It would be interesting to find out if other studies in other places/times find similar results.
Personally, I’d like to see a study of what type of immune responses occur when the vaccinated catch Covid and survive. Do they then have long term immunity? Will they no longer be vulnerable to Covid, despite initial (and perhaps subsequent) vaccinations? Also, we know that Covid vaccination of Covid survivors causes a very large antibody spike. However, after that spike in antibodies wears off, do they retain their initial robust protection from Covid? Or does the vaccination monkey with their initial natural immunity?
And now the lovely, funky wordpress will not allow me to edit #87264, which is quite embarassing, but better to acknowledge my faux pas than ignore it. Here is what I should have written originally:
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I also read the abstract of Predominance of antibody-resistant SARS-CoV-2 variants in vaccine breakthrough cases from the San Francisco Bay Area, California this morning.And this is the real-world application:
As a covid survivor, I do a better job at keeping vaccinated, vulnerable populations safe from covid by remaining unvaccinated.I was reading a study out of San Francisco yesterday. It had studied just over 1373 who had contracted covid in that area from about February to June 2021. 125 of those who became infected with covid were fully vaccinated, and most of them had symptomatic infections. As a part of the study, the virus infecting each person was sequenced, and the variants studied. They found that those who contracted “breakthrough” infections either (1) did not mount an adequate immune response to the vaccine (or the immune response had faded), or (2) did mount an adequate immune response to the vaccine, but were infected with variants that evaded the vaccine protection. In the vaccinated with breakthrough cases, it was discovered that the virus infecting them tended to have 2 distinct properties to their mutations: (a) they were more no more infectious than the original Wuhan variant, and (b) they had more mutations that helped them to escape the antibodies created by the vaccine.
The part of the study that was unvaccinated was a larger cohort. It was found that the vaccine variants that had infected the unvaccinated population were different than the strains that had infected the vaccinated population. The virus in the unvaccinated group exhibited two characteristics: (c) these variants displayed mutations that made them more infectious than the original Wuhan variant however, (d) the virus in the unvaccinated group DID NOT exhibit mutations that contributed to the ability to evade the neutralizing antibodies created by the vaccines.
What this means is that the vaccinated tend to get sick with variants that have the ability to escape the protections offered by the vaccine, and the unvaccinated tend to get sick with variants that are highly infectious, but tend to not infect the vaccinated. The unvaccinated don’t generally spread the variants that get them sick to the vaccinated — the vaccine works to protect the vaccinated from variants circulating through the unvaccinated. The unvaccinated spread variants to the unvaccinated and the vaccinated spread variants to the vaccinated. That is what was going on with the 1373 people in the study in San Francisco.
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Once an unvaccinated person gets infected with covid, their immune system becomes acquainted with covid. It is possible for the unvaccinated to get infected with covid again, but most likely subsequent infections will be asymptomatic (asymptomatic infections are essentially non-infectious), and simply serve them the same purpose as a “vaccine booster” — updating their immune system with information about the changes found in the currently circulating versions of the virus, and contributing to their ability to easily fight off the virus in the future. This is how the human immune system has dealt with respiratory infections by flu and corona viruses for millennia, and it is a very efficient system.
If I encounter covid in my daily goings about, most often it will simply serve as a “virus definition update” to my immune system. If I get infected, it will likely be asymptomatic, and it won’t transmit to others. (In the unlikely event that I get symptoms, it will be transmissible, and I will stay home. However, it is unlikely that if I get symptoms that I could transmit it to a person who is up to date on their covid vaccinations — based on the results of the San Francisco study.)
The most dangerous people for a vaccinated person to be around are those who are vaccinated who develop breakthrough covid cases. This is because the covid variant running around their system has mutated in such a way that it can evade (at least a portion of) the protection provided by the vaccine — which means that others vaccinated are also likely vulnerable to the virus that caused the breakthrough infection.
(Gee whiz…I need to rework some details…please hold off reading this until I have done so…)
I also read the abstract of Predominance of antibody-resistant SARS-CoV-2 variants in vaccine breakthrough cases from the San Francisco Bay Area, California this morning.
And this is the real-world application:
(As a covid survivor), I do a better job at keeping vaccinated, vulnerable populations safe from covid by remaining unvaccinated.I was reading a study out of San Francisco yesterday. It had studied just over 1373 who had contracted covid in that area from about February to June 2021. 125 of those who became infected with covid were fully vaccinated, and most of them had symptomatic infections. As a part of the study, the virus infecting each person was sequenced, and the variants studied. They found that those who contracted “breakthrough” infections fell into two groups: (1) those who did not mount an adequate immune response to the vaccine, and (2) those who did mount an adequate immune response to the vaccine. There were few in group (1), however, it was clear that their breakthrough infection was because they had underlying conditions affecting their immune system which caused the vaccine to not work for them sufficiently. In group (2) of the vaccinated with breakthrough cases, it was discovered that the virus infecting them tended to have 2 distinct properties to their mutations: (a) they were not more infectious than they original Wuhan variant, and (b) they had more mutations that helped them to escape the antibodies created by the vaccine.
The part of the study that was unvaccinated was a larger cohort. It was found that the vaccine variants that had infected the unvaccinated population were different than the strains that had infected the vaccinated population. The virus in the unvaccinated group exhibited two characteristics: (a) these variants also displayed mutations that made them more infectious than the original Wuhan variant however, (c) the virus in the unvaccinated group DID NOT exhibit mutations that contributed to the ability to evade the neutralizing antibodies created by the vaccines.
What this means is that the vaccinated tend to get sick with variants that have the ability to escape the protections offered by the vaccine, and the unvaccinated tend to get sick with variants that cannot infect the vaccinated. The unvaccinated cannot spread the variants that get them sick to the majority of those vaccinated — the vaccine works to protect the vaccinated from variants circulating through the unvaccinated. The unvaccinated spread variants to the unvaccinated and the vaccinated spread variants to the vaccinated. That is what was going on with the 1300 people in the study in San Francisco. It is not the only possible outcome when vaccination occurs during a pandemic, but it is one of the possible outcomes.
Once an unvaccinated person gets infected with covid, their immune system becomes acquainted with covid. It is possible for the unvaccinated to get infected with covid again, but most likely subsequent infections will be asymptomatic (asymptomatic infections are essentially non-infectious), and simply serve them the same purpose as a “vaccine booster” — updating their immune system with information about the changes found in the currently circulating versions of the virus, and contributing to their ability to easily fight off the virus in the future. This is how the human immune system has dealt with respiratory infections by flu and corona viruses for millennia, and it is a very efficient system.
If I encounter covid in my daily goings about, most often it will simply serve as a “virus definition update” to my immune system. If I get infected, it will likely be asymptomatic, and it won’t transmit to others. (In the unlikely event that I get symptoms, it will be transmissible, and I will stay home. However, it is unlikely that if I get symptoms that I could transmit it to a person who is up to date on their covid vaccinations — based on the results of the San Francisco study.)
The most dangerous people for a vaccinated person to be around are those who are vaccinated who develop breakthrough covid cases. This is because the covid variant running around their system has mutated in such a way that it can evade (at least a portion of ) the protection provided by the vaccine — which means that others vaccinated are also likely vulnerable to the virus that caused the breakthrough infection.
I read this today: The Snake-Oil Salesmen and the COVID-Zero Con: A Classic Bait-And-Switch for a Lifetime of Booster Shots (Immunity as a Service)
Here is a summary of what the article teaches about human immunity, especially as it relates to respiratory viruses, such as flu and coronaviruses:
Regarding Covid and the “Zero-covid” campaign:
• Respiratory viruses cannot be eradicated
• Viruses that have large animal reservoirs cannot be eradicated
• “Leaky vaccines” (vaccines that do not prevent infection & transmission) cannot eradicate viruses.
• Viruses that use simple mechanisms to invade cells, such as flu viruses, corona viruses, etc., create “successful mutations” constantly (successful = able to infect host) and cannot be eradicated.Regarding human immunity
• Generally, the worse the sickness the more robust and durable the immune response. It takes time to create the highly specialized defenses of the adaptive (acquired) immune system. More mild infections do not bring the part of the immune system that creates durable immunity into play. A mild infection may bring very little to no adaptive strategies into play – the more severe the infection, the more involved the adaptive immune system becomes. The most severe infections, when survived, create the most durable (long-lasting, up to lifetime,) immune responses.
• Generally, “natural immunity” is always more robust than vaccine-inspired immunity. Another way of putting this is that vaccine immunity can approach the efficacy of natural immunity but can never surpass it.
• For fast-mutating viruses (such as flu and corona viruses), adaptive immunity may not be especially long lived (a few months to a few years,) however, normal human interaction will bring us constantly into contact with variants of viruses that we have already encountered. Our pre-existing immunity will be fading and/or slightly (somewhat) inefficient in preventing infection – but we will have a degree of protection. This degree of protection is called “cross-immunity.” When we become infected with a variant we are acquainting our adaptive immune system to the new changes in the virus, and our immune system will, to some degree, create protection coded specifically for the new changes. These updates occur endlessly – often without us even showing any symptoms of sickness (i.e. “asymptomatic infections.”) By the means of constant exposure, we ensure that we will always (as long as our immune systems are functioning optimally,) have an appropriate arsenal of adaptive immunity measure to tackle every new variant of a virus that nature throws up at us.
• There are clear measures that can be taken to have an optimally running immune system: plenty of nutrients we are needed by the immune system, such as vitamins C and D, zinc, etc. We need adequate sleep, lack of stress, (i.e. avoidance of long-term existential threats,) and quality human interactions (hugs, handshakes, etc.)How to help vulnerable populations
• Some among us are vulnerable and have immune systems that operate sub-optimally. It behooves us as humans to protect our vulnerable populations. One of the ways we do this is by allowing respiratory viruses to primarily spread between those of us with robust immune systems – by doing this we work with evolution to incentivize the propagation of viruses that are incapable of causing bad disease outcomes.
• When we allow respiratory illnesses to circulate in populations with weaker immune systems, we inadvertently encourage the creation of viral variants that are capable of creating worse outcomes.
• Those who will be worst affected by the viruses that are likely to kill their hosts are those who have weakened immune systems or who have not yet encountered any prior iteration of the virus and have no cross-immunity.
• A word of warning; The trench warfare and field hospitals of WWI (population isolation, especially isolation of people with weakened immune systems in field hospitals) likely created the emergence of the Spanish Flu of 1918, and the end of the war likely created the situation that caused the Spanish Flu to become less deadly.Facts about Covid
• The covid virus is not all that different from viruses that have been encountered in the past, therefore most people have some degree of cross-immunity to the covid virus.
• The covid virus is a pretty run-of-the-mill respiratory virus, and it can be expected to follow the same trajectory of most respiratory viruses, as long as humans don’t change their usual behavior towards it.
• Once infected with covid the level and duration of immunity it offers will vary greatly from individual to individual depending on how sick the person got (and to what degree the infection required application of the adaptive immune system), however, due to the nature of the human immune system, as long as the person infected continues to have a robust immune system that individual should not be at risk of a bad future infection with covid.
• Asymptomatic transmission doesn’t really occur.Maybe, physiologically, we humans just aren’t that different than horses. I mean…most of us like apples and carrots. We’re mammals that evolved on the same planet as the avermectin bacterium. And the original corona virus before it was bioengineered into a franken-Covid monster.
I stand in solidarity with my horse! Er, well…if I *had* a horse. Solidarity with my dog and three cats! “They are people too!” (Says my teen daughter.)~~~~~
Had breakfast this morning with a dear friend in her 80s. She had her Moderna booster this past week. From her primary care physician, who is Vietnamese. His office was filled with Vietnamese, all there for their boosters. She feels fine, her arm just a little sore. She had a mini-stroke and micro-clots two months back, but she cannot fathom that the vaccination back in Dec/Jan could be the cause. She asked if I’d reconsider and get vaccinated, “No,” I repllied. “I don’t see the need.”
It’s all so surreal. From TAE I know so very much about Covid, about the vaccines, but many who are dear to me are lemmings, running, running. They are certain where they run to is the right path, and they know what they run from is *very scary.* Partner and I were waiting to do a return at the Goodwill (thrift shop chain) today and the chatty clerk told us how she stayed home from her job for a year, due to Covid, and got vaccinated before she returned to be sure she didn’t give anyone Covid as she interacted with customers at work. Partner and I exchanged glances. No point in telling her what we know, how we see it. Our words wouldn’t be accepted.
Lemmings, lemmings running to the rise and beyond. What is beyond the rise? Is it a cliff with rocks and crashing waves below? Is it paradise with milk and honey? A land where there is no fear of the virus, and the beaming face of Big Pharma shines beatifically down with warm rays? I do not know. I, too, cannot see beyond the rise. I’m finding a shady spot beneath a tree, curling up with a stack of good books, my guitar, and a few dear to me who share my views. But most of the people around me are lemmings running, running to the rise and beyond. My friends who run with the lemming crowd…I’ll wait here, until you return, to tell me what lies beyond the rise. I wonder if they’ll e’er return — the lemmings — to tell of what lies beyond the rise.
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Talking about a technocracy trying to capture all data….
I was helping a long term client today who was having trouble activating his quickbooks program. I got it working, and he began happily opening his files. (He does bookkeeping for other small businesses.). Some of the files would not allow him to proceed until he added his “online intuit account” to the QB files stored on his computer. There was no way to get around this. I admit — I was surprised. Yet another example of an enormous company getting its cloud-claws into someone else’s data, stored on their private computer.
I thought about myself. I’m still using QB2004, running it on a virtual computer using WindowsXP as the operating system. It works flawlessly. Nothing changes from year to year. I like that. I don’t have to pay for it annually — I paid for it once, in 2004. I guess Covid vaccines are not the only area of my life where I don’t run with the lemmings.
Struggling today. I wrote this in response to an email from a friend. I am thinking that it will probably not be beneficial to me to actually include it in the email. But I need to share it:
My friend wrote:
I suppose just as you have a right to evaluate self risk, you may face the rights of others to shun you?
My respose:
It sure is a good thing that the Bill of Rights protects the rights we have to shun others. No cake-maker shall ever again be mocked for refusing to make a cake that is for a gay couple’s wedding. The unvaccinated can stay unvaccinated, but they will not be permitted to enter any public spaces whatsoever — and they may not exercise out of doors. The unvaccinated can use curbside pickup at libraries and hang outside them to use the wifi. They can use pick up services rather than entering our stores and home school their children. If anyone wants to, they can live in all-white enclaves where only English is spoken. We can have segregated schools, segregated buses, segregated restaurants, and segregated drinking fountains. We can have a society of rigid castes, where everyone knows their place — the unvaccinated assuredly will reside down towards the bottom. We can remove the children of the indigenous from their parents and school them in strict boarding schools so that we can “kill the Indian but save the child” — it’s really for their benefit — they need to be Christian in order to make it into heaven. The Nazis really had a great thing going — we can now continue the eugenists dream.We do all of this so that the vaccinated never have to fear catching covid from the unvaccinated. Instead, they will only catch covid from their fellow vaccinated folks. This is just. Amen and amen.
“I pledge allegiance to the flag of the united states of america, and to the republic, for which it stands, one nation, under god, deeply segregated, with liberty and justice for the vaccinated.”
Thanks for reading.
@ dimitri
“ Is Malone controlled opposition?”
My view? No. He just has trained himself to use the scientific method. Conclusions follow and are drawn from hypothesis, experimentation, and results. He doesn’t have a knee-jerk “vaccines are bad” reaction. He is not assuming vaccines are bad and then hunting every piece of evidence that supports that position and that discredits the opposite position (that is what lawyers tend to do.) And, I am sure, that for him, he will rest easier at night if there is a silver lining — a benefit — for those who have taken the mRNA vaccines that build upon technology that he pioneered.For me, are the vaccines bad?
Well, they were released to the public with extremely limited safety and effectiveness data.
When they don’t kill or injure someone in the first few weeks, they do give significant protection for several months.
They don’t prevent infection nor transmission, so the vaccines are useless as a mass tool for public health — they can help a specific subset of the population that is at severe risk from Covid.
Based upon this new study, the vaccines reduce the risk of long Covid. Long Covid tends to affect primarily people with additional comorbidities, suggesting again that they are useful for a small subset of the population with specific pre-existing maladies.
Since the vaccines have a nasty habit of killing or creating significant adverse reactions that are sometimes a permanent diminishment of health in people who are otherwise healthy and who likely would have survived Covid (and avoided long Covid) with no intervention, widespread use of the vaccines by the population is foolhardy.My sister texted me last night about DIY quinine. Apparently, “quinine water” can be made from grapefruit rind.
So, here is DIY malaria treatment, with other uses as well.
https://travelingleaf.com/2014/06/post-44-quinine-water/@ my parents
Transcribing music – some tips —
(1) write the notes on a staff as circles, in order, with more or less equal spacing. Write the words/syllables under the notes.
(2) Go to your text, set a slower, steady beat (tap, beat with hand in air, or use metronome) sing or speak in rhythm.
(3) Mark in the text where the beats lie. Does a beat line up with a word or a syllable? If so, mark it. (I like using straight vertical lines for this — it creates a visualization of the beat.). If a beat falls where there is no word, draw lines between the words to indicate the beat.
(4) Once you have this, sing/speak in rhythm to find the stressed beats — the goal is to determine the time signature, measure locations, and to see if the text starts on beat 1 or some other beat of the measure. Mark the stressed beats and/or measures in the text.
(5) Transfer the measure information to the written music with the whole notes, writing in bar lines and the time signature. For now, write in quarter rests for beats that occur where there is no text. If a word/syllable clearly lasts less than two beats, color in the notehead and add a stem. If the note is two beats or longer but less than four beats, add a stem.
(6) sing the song to the written music, refining your notation to fit usual written musical conventions. If your song does not subdivide the beats beyond eighth notes, this is usually pretty easy. If the song includes sixteenth notes or triplets, it can be more complex — expect to need some practice with simpler songs before doing this easily with more complex songs.Re deflationista
“ The article focusing only on ivermectin despite the fact that Rogan took monoclonal antibodies, ivermectin, ZPAC, prednisone, NAD drip, and a vitamin drip.”Yes, curiouser and curiouser.
WHY does the article focus so strongly on discrediting ivermectin when Rogan used multiple therapies to treat Covid? Why are the other therapies used not also discredited? Why is ivermectin singled out? Is there something about ivermectin specifically that the billionaires or or the WEF or their lackeys find threatening?
It is similar to other oddities going on:
WHY ignore natural immunity (the WHO even removing it from its definition of her immunity for a few months), lumping the naturally immune in with the “unvaccinated”? This continues despite several published medical studies demonstrating that natural immunity to Covid is broad and durable. If the goal is to overcome Covid for a country…wouldn’t natural immunity be a big part of that? Especially since we are now learning that vaccine inspired immunity is narrow and quickly loses potency?
WHY encourage pregnant women to be injected with Covid vaccines? I thought we’d all collectively learned our lesson about medical treatments lacking in long term testing for pregnant women with thalidomide and X-rays.
WHY continue hype the dangers of a virus that is only somewhat more dangerous than the flu for the very elderly and those with significant morbidities, and that is less dangerous than the flu for the young?
WHY ignore the Nuremberg Code, fudging on the informed consent for the EUA vaccines?
WHY ignore the thresholds for removing a vaccine from distribution that have been used in the past with roll outs of new vaccines?
WHY NOT give individual physicians license to use any previously approved drug to treat Covid? Drugs are prescribed off label all of the time. My own son has a condition called EOE — there are no drugs that have been specifically approved to treat this condition, and so he is prescribed budesonide off-label based on a few studies (not RCTs) by some other gastro doctors. The drug appears to be working (the severe symptoms have subsided since he began using it.).
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WHY is there such a strong push to get everyone jabbed?
WHY is ivermectin being characterized as “bad?”WHAT does all of this lead to?
The unexamined life is not worth living. – Socrates
@ my parents said know
I was just singing it through with solfege…but wondered if the first d was in the same octave as the later D?
Can you write it on staff paper, take photo and put in the image?
And, no, it didn’t sound familiar going over it with solfege…but my rhythm was very approximate. 😉I know for me, if it weren’t for my domestic partner, my parents, my sister and her husband and TAE, I would be going out of my mind, sure that I was the only one able to see the wizard behind the curtain and feeling very alone. It isn’t enough to simply know that there are people out there who see what I see, I need to also be in active communication with people who can see what I see.
@ TDK “ cow paste works better than horse paste for the mu variant.”
ROFLMAO
Hope you don’t mind if I pass that joke on.Re Hyman Rickover’s speech
Hence my desire to move from Phoenix, AZ…it is easier to warm indoor space without electricity than to cool indoor space without electricity.@ Raul, regarding ivermectin
I agree, however, ivermectin is being hounded by the mainstream right now. If I bring it up with people who don’t know me, who are indoctrinated by the mainstream, I am likely to be immediately branded as “one of THOSE people,” and everything that I say will be discounted and ignored. My goal was to open windows a sliver…I was a Mormon missionary, trained, and rule #1 is to “build relationships of trust.” They won’t listen to me until a relationship is established.…That is why in the song I wrote about ivermectin verses 1-3 describe the track record of ivermectin, the bridge relates that the inventors received a Noble prize and compares it to penicillin and aspirin, and THEN comes verse 4 explaining that it broke the back of the delta wave in India, followed by reiteration of the comparison with penicillin and aspirin. If the song goes straight to verse 4, those who have heard ivermectin is “just a horse medicine” will experience cognitive dissonance and will tune out the rest of the song. Because of the trashing of ivermectin, it is necessary to establish it firmly as a significant human medication before bringing up that it treats Covid.
Dr D
“ Having unlimited free energy from technology would be the WORST thing that could happen, and we certainly WOULD cut all the remaining trees and displace all the remaining animalsReminds me of someone I met in Colorado last month who was sure that functional “free energy” devices exist and are just around the corner in becoming mainstream. Eh…the non-polluting aspect (no fossil fuel) sounds nice, but I concur with dr d that we need a braking system to unchecked growth, because unchecked growth will eventually destroy us. Humanity needs to learn to live within its resources sustainably…we need to change our myths and narratives to do this. “Free energy” is just another drug to fuel our mass energy addiction.
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deflationista
“Texas has seen nearly 9,000 COVID-19 deaths since February. All but 43 were unvaccinated people.”Considering the timeline of vaccinations, and the vaccine immunity waning at a rate of 40% per month, I would expect that. Can you shorten the timeline and find accurate stats for Texas from just June and July?
