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WWII & RUSSIA
There seems to be a general move to write out the importance of Russia’s importance in the defeat of Hitler.
Holocaust deniers are [rightly] criticised for their views, but denying the importance of Russia is exactly the same!
VITAMIN D [Part two]
From the article above : ‘skin pigmentation also reduces natural vitamin D synthesis’.
I wonder whether this explains, at least in part, the effect of the virus on those of African descent [in the UK], and others such as people from the Indian, Bangladeshi and Pakistani communities.
VITAMIN D
Interesting : Study correlating data from 20 countries indicates vitamin D could be useful for combatting the worst effects of the virus, eg. death!
https://aru.ac.uk/news/vitamin-d-linked-to-low-virus-death-rate-study
HCQ
Those in authority who try and prevent the use of HCQ in the treatment of C19 should be arrested for manslaughter. They can explain their evidence at their trials.
We are talking about something serious, it should be treated seriously. Their actions have consequences : death!
WUHAN
The virus started in a lab in Wuhan. There is even an SF book exactly describing that scenario. What more proof do you need?
However…
– A Cambridge team has tracked previous cases of the virus to southern China in September.
– In the US during the last flu season many elderly died of pneumonia where the doctors were at a loss as to explaining how they caught it. In retrospect it seems very possible it was COVID-19
– There were outbreaks in South Korea and Japan which could not possibly have come from China, but could have come from the US
– There appear to be cases in several European countries which appeared last December and beforeCertainly not a slam/dunk for the lab in Wuhan, but it is now about politics, so reality and rationality are forfeit.
There is also the battle of the strains!
One friend [Guardian reader] says there is only one strain globally. Another friend says there are 31!
I have read one article which claims the variations of the virus are minimal, a difference in one or two base pairs, so there is in effect a single strain.
Another article suggested the virus in Wuhan and Italy are so different the Italian virus could not have evolved from the Wuhan strain, and that they must both have evolved from an earlier strain.
There is a database containing the genomes of the various strains so the truth should already be known, but politics…
If there is a single strain then a vaccine seems a plausible idea. If the virus has mutated into very different strains then a vaccine would only work against a limited number of strains.
SWEDEN
The argument about Sweden is false.
If for every 200 infections one person dies then it does not matter over what period it happens.
A lockdown can seem to lower the death rate by SLOWING the rate of infection but does not prevent the infections happening eventually. If Sweden has three times the number of infections it will have three times the number of deaths. For surrounding countries those deaths will go on longer.
The virus is not going away and at some point you WILL be exposed to it. Having a miserable life while trying to delay the inevitable is one option, but quality of life becomes an issue.
New York City [ 1 in 200 ]
NYC shows 19.9% of population with antibodies.
Population 18.8 million, deaths 18,900. Say 1 death per thousand population, ~20% infection rate so 1 death for every 200 people infected – 0.5%
ALSO 19.9% of 18.8 million gives 3.74 million people infected JUST in NYC!
“Additionally, 12.3% of New York state has tested positive for novel coronavirus antibodies, Gov. Andrew Cuomo said at a briefing on Saturday.
As a whole, 19.9% of New York City has tested positive for antibodies, the preliminary study found. At 27.6%, the Bronx is reporting the highest rate of infection, which Cuomo said the state would further investigate.”
PERSPECTIVE
Almost all reporting on the virus is about generating fear, and the best way too do this is ignorance.
‘Officially’ there are about 3.4 million cases globally, but we know there have been that many in the UK alone. Scaling up the Stanford result suggested 30 million Americans had been infected at that time. Antibody tests in the States seem to be about 14% positive, implying about 50 million infections. [It really irritates me when any article assumes the ‘official’ figures are meaningful in any way]
What I would love to see is a distribution chart based on age of death with this disease. I would suggest it would be almost completely flat until the age of 70 when it would rise to a large peak at 80. The data is available but would give the ‘wrong’ impression!
We know for those under 50 the chance of dying would be 5 in 100,000. There are likely more deaths than this because of lockdowns! Why would these people be in lockdown. To slow transmission?
We know it is not possible to eliminate the disease. The Chineses failed even with their drastic actions.
We know infection does not give immunity so people will be reinfected. We know a large number are asymptomatic. We know the virus can survive up to 60C so summer will not prevent infection. Put together it suggests the disease will become endemic.
Either lockdowns remain in place forever or they are pointless. All of us will be exposed to the virus at some point, so it is just delaying the inevitable.
The global population is estimated at 7.8 billion. With an average lifespan of 70 this would mean for the year-to-date there will have been about 37 million deaths. Deaths from the virus is about 0.6%! Some may claim it is in ‘addition’ so is significant, but the average age at death seems to be around 80 so not really.
Why not trust the people?
The ‘official’ figures are only those who have been tested with swabs, normally at the point when hospital treatment is required. Totally ignored are those people who have it but do not require hospital treatment.
WHY!
By only including the very sick as having the virus the death rate can appear very high making the virus as scary as possible, which seems to be the only reason for this approach. It can be used to justify anything!
For example, I mentioned the NHS hotline in the UK had 1.7 million people registered as having had the virus but were never included in official figures. Antibody testing typically shows that infections are fifty times or more than the ‘official’ rate.
A new virus tracking app in the UK has 2.6 million users. They are encouraged to enter details daily, whether they are well or not, to give a dynamic view of the virus . The app asks for historical data so they can track the progress of the virus back to January, and possibly December.
2.6 million people is only a fraction of the population, but is more than enough to model the disease for the whole population.The app shows the virus peaking at 2.1 million cases on April 1st, falling to 350,000 earlier this week.[UK]
An app like this would be useful for any country. It gives a daily snapshot of the virus and pulls in historical data to show its’ development. It is not possible to test everyone with swabs daily, but we CAN ask people how they feel!
Because Trump said hydroxychloroquine could be useful in fighting the virus people are DESPERATE to ‘prove’ it is ineffective, whether it is or not!
A recent study used chloroquine di-phosphate for a couple of days with NO zinc supplement. Not surprisingly the patients did not improve, but is now being touted as ‘proof’ that hydroxychloroquine is ineffective! [Chloroquine di-phosphate is normally used to clean fish tanks!]
Some would prefer people to suffer and die rather than have hydroxychloroquine being useful in the treatment of the virus, purely because of their hatred of Trump! [Trump mentioned another treatment using UV light shone directly into the lungs. The company’s Twitter account was suspended and their YouTube video removed!]
Some time ago Bolsonaro in Brazil declared there would be no lockdown and the virus patients would be treated with hydroxychloroquine. He had secured supplies of the essential ingredients for making hydroxychloroquine from India.
Now Bolsonaro is ‘in trouble’, he has sacked his health minister, and there are thousands of virus deaths in Brazil. It crosses my mind that perhaps his approach was sabotaged by the health minister. I would certainly like to know exactly how Braziians are treatinhg their patients.
INTUBATION : 90% FATAL!
I read an article about a doctor who claimed the problem was not the lungs, but that the red blood cells lose their ability to transport oxygen. He goes on to say that in this case intubation was the wrong treatment. US hospitals receive a lot more money if the patient is intubated!
https://www.zerohedge.com/health/whistleblower-covid-19-patients-need-oxygen-therapy-not-ventilator
NB1 : I thought injections of vitamin C were given to help red blood cells
NB2 : We are 4 months in, why is this kind of discussion still valid?I did see an article [I can’t find it again] suggesting Democrats are celebrating that a small study concluded that hydroxychloroquine was ineffective against the virus.
The joy comes from the idea that a cheap drug [plus zinc] could cure the diseases – purely because Trump said it could help!
MEANWHILE :
Sean Hannity reads Mike Pence a letter from unidentified doctor detailing a drug “regimen” the doctor claims prevents coronavirus deaths
Hannity: “Hydroxychloroquine, 200 milligrams twice a day, five days. Azithromycin, 500 milligrams once a day, five days. Zinc sulfate, 220 milligrams once a day for five days … His results, we have had zero deaths”
NB. This does not say whether treatment should start only when serious symptoms appear
The WHO says only 2% to 3% of global population have antibodies. That is a minimum of 140 million to a maximum of 210 million.
With 177285 deaths and 140 million infections the rate of death is a MAXIMUM of 0.127% of infected people!!!
‘Confirmed’ cases : about 2.5 million! Almost a factor of 60 out AT LEAST!!!
Average age of death in Italy : 78
Average age of death in Germany : 82We know the effects of the lockdown will be dire, affecting the global economy for years, destroying the lives of millions in every country. Given the above, lockdowns are not warranted in any way as the effects will be far more disastrous than the disease.
The problem is not the ‘pandemic’ but the reaction to it.
Here’s a fun idea.
ALL billionaires loses ALL their wealth over the value of one billion dollars! The money gained is fed back to the bottom 50% of the population.
Not exactly a hardship on these people.
THE BLUE PILL
Obviously 20 million tests a day is inadequate. The whole population needs testing once a week.
We know from the official figures that one in five of those infected will die [concluded cases].
This is obviously serious so anyone infected MUST be removed from society so they can not infect others. Self isolation is not sufficient so internment camps seem appropriate.
To ensure people ARE tested they should be microchipped, like pets. This allows a record to be kept of virus checks. Also detectors in supermarkets can mean that those without microchips will not be allowed in.
The microchips will also be used to record the compulsory vaccination.
Lockdowns should persist until the country is clear of the virus.
THE RED PILL
While not conclusive, it seems plausible that the ‘official’ numbers only represent a tiny fraction of those infected and that the actual death rate is a fraction of 1%.
More antibody tests like the Stanford study should be carried out to get a true picture of the situation.
Polling organisations should be able to provides lists of people giving a good cross section of society.
If the results support the Stanford findings then we can take a more rational view, certainly that lockdowns are inappropriate, and that life can return to normal with the exception of those with high risks.
We need surveys of those infected and not hospitalised. For example, my morbidity rating is 50%, but this is based on those needing hospital treatment. If many more people with my combination of risks did not have any problems then my risk factor is reduced. It is more of a question of ‘do I feel lucky?’
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It does seem like The Matrix, with two overlapping worlds. The difference is that blue pill is chaos and anarchy and the red pill is the return to a normal world.
DOC ROBINSON
My estimate of 30% asymptomatic comes from the widespread testing in China where they concluded that 30% were asymptomatic CARRIERS.
I believe the Stanford study suggested there were asymptomatic sufferers of the disease who were no longer carriers, which would not have shown up in the Chinese tests, leading to my conclusion that asymptomatic sufferers were higher than 30%..
My ‘60%’ came from infection on a US Navy ship where 60% of those infected were asymptomatic. They would be younger on average than the general population so will not be truly representative, hence my ‘could be’..
My main problem is that we have absolutely no idea how serious this illness actually is.
The ‘confirmed’ cases seem to be almost exclusively those who need hospital treatment. Those who have symptoms that do not require hospital treatment are excluded. Also it does seem there are a large number of people who have no symptoms, the lowest estimate seems to be 30% but it could be twice that.
The use of antibody tests, like the Stanford study, should be replicated in all countries to check what the situation actually is. It may be the most sensible policy is for those with a high morbidity risk should self isolate but the rest of the economy should continue as normal.
The lockdown policy is massively damaging and should only be used if truly justified. It seems that warm weather is unlikely to slow down infections, nor does having the disease guarantee immunity, so i could be lockdown forever with current thinking.
My second problem is that there seems to be some effective cures based around hydroxychloroquine.
I have seen no evidence that these are being officially tried in any country! Considering the alternative can be death it does seem surprising.
THIS ‘DEADLY‘ VIRUS IS A SCAM!
Using antibody tests on a random sample the Stanford study concludes that probably actual infections are 50 to 80 times higher than the official figure.
This ties in with the NHS figures from the UK where 1.7 million had reported having the virus. You can probably add another 30% to this, which seems to be typical of asymptomatic carriers. The Stanford study suggests a further class : asymptomatic sufferers who recover and are NOT carriers, they simply do not realise they have had it!. And the NHS figure is two weeks old.
Why weren’t the NHS figures added to the official figures?
The only ‘official’ figures are those that have been tested, and testing in most Western countries is extremely restricted. This increases the apparent death rate making it seem much more deadly than it actually is. The ‘official’ figure will exclude almost everyone who had it and recovered, possibly 98% or more!
Whenever people ‘look’ they seem to ‘find’ : In NYC 15% of pregnancies had antibodies. In a German town 14% had antibodies. Most asymptomatic. All countries should carry out similar antibody random tests to find out the true situation.
The Stanford study concludes that Covid-19’s mortality rate among infected people would be on par with, or even less, than the seasonal flu.
Lockdowns are pointless.
https://www.rt.com/usa/486183-stanford-coronavirus-infection-rate-higher/
Raul
There seems to be two main treatments based around hydroxychloroquine.
One in which hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin are given for a period of days or weeks in the hope that the patient will be cured.
The second uses hydroxychloroquine with zinc sulphate given when the patient is seriously ill. The patient is symptom free in about 12 hours! The ‘within 12 hours’ suggests only a single treatment is required. [According to Dr. Cardillo in the States]. I would certainly like to see further confirmation on this treatment.
My thought about whether it would be effective against all viruses is the claim [by Cardillo] that the zinc inside the cell stops the replication of the virus. My question really is whether it stops ANY virus replicating in the cell. This would mean any mutations or varieties of virus are irrelevant.
The hdroxycholoroquine and zinc treatment seems like a miracle cure. A single treatment giving a result in 12 hours or less, and only used if the patient has developed severe symptoms, and without the need for a hospital.
Both components are cheap and plentiful. While hdroxycholoroquine has side effects, and interactions with other drugs and vitamins, this is minimised by the fact it is only a one-off treatment.
You would think this would be world wide news!
Nope.
My first search on this turned up a few newspaper articles in publications I had never heard of. No MSM. Now any searches shows up some medical websites where the subject is discussed, there are references to a couple of other doctors who are trying it [successfully!] but no widespread use.
It is almost as if people want the effects of the virus to be as bad as possible to justify a particular agenda!
The key seems to be the zinc, with the hdroxycholoroquine just helping to get the zinc inside the cells. The zinc prevents the virus replicating in the cell.
Any virus?
Any animal?
Is this a cure for ANY viral infection? A cure for the common flu? A cure for pig ebola? A cure for chicken flu?
The mechanism doesn’t seem specific to the coronavirus.
THE OTHER VICTIMS OF COVID-19
One UK newspaper said that about 2600 people per week were dying because they could not receive the non-COVID treatment normally carried on in UK hospitals.
A new temporary hospital has been built in London, Nightingale, with 2,900 ICU beds specifically for COVID-19 treatment, plus 750 normal beds. Similar hospitals are being created in major cities using covered stadiums.
I believe they are regarded as overflow beds. As I suspected Nighingale is almost empty.
Here’s an idea. Why not move ALL the COVID-19 cases from normal hospitals to these centres and let the normal hospitals go back to treating non-COVID cases. Normal hospitals should not accept any COVID-19 cases.
Many countries seem to be building temporary hospitals so it should be possible to segregate COVID-19 cases from other patients, or even just select specific normal hospitals as COVID only.
ANTIBODY TESTS
I am still struck by the 1.6 million people reporting to a UK hotline that they had the virus.
Antibody tests would be perfect for testing a significant sample of these people to get an idea of how many really had been infected, although this would not show asymptomatic carriers.
I do not believe the UK is an exception so the antibody test could be used on random sampling of the population of any country to get a better idea of the real infection levels.
How can the correct decisions be made without accurate information, or at least a good estimate?
IS THERE AN AGENDA?
The West has chosen to do minimal testing. For the most part it seems that testing is only on people who obviously have the virus and have developed severe symptoms, just a kind of confirmation.
The effect is to make the death rate of the disease seem higher, Is this deliberate?
1.6 million people contacted the UK’s NHS hotline and said that they feel they have the virus. This changes the situation dramatically. While some of those registering with the NHS are wrong, there would also be a lot of asymtomatic carriers.
It would mean that only about 3% of those with the virus developed serious symptoms. [Do any other countries have similar hotlines, and what kind of figures are they getting]
The average age of death in Italy is still 78, not 50 or 40.
After reading about the apparently miracle cure using hydroxychloroquine with zinc sulphate when I hear about new deaths it feels like murder. It should be easy for medical staff to get the two components and it would be risk free to try them on patients rather than let them suffocate to death!
Nothing to lose. It works or it doesn’t!
If the deaths can be stopped or reduced to near zero then the panic goes away.
DILEMMA
If the virus can re-infect people, and if the spread of the virus is not affected by hotter temperatures, then it seems it will become endemic.
While the lockdowns may slow the infection rate to allow health authorities to keep up, lockdowns can not last forever.
The price of the lockdowns is very high, particularly in the US with 10% of their workforce are suddenly unemployed [17 million], massive numbers of businesses are threatened with bankruptcy, huge numbers of people are unable to receive normal healthcare [leading to thousands of deaths], and now threats to the food chain where supermarket shelves become empty and are not refilled.
There will be carnage! There is a quote to the effect that civilsation dissolves into anarchy when there is no food in the supermarkets for three days.
I feel we need to move to the Swedish idea where those at risk should self-isolate, but everyone else can carry on as normal.
The alternative could be anarchy!
HYDROXYCHLOROQUINE
There seems to be two main treatments based around this drug.
One in which hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin are given for weeks in the hope that the patient will be cured. This [according to Didier Raoult of France] requires early detection of infection.
The second uses hydroxychloroquine with zinc sulphate given when the patient is seriously ill. The patient is symptom free in about 12 hours! This suggests only a single treatment is required. [I have only seen one article on this treatment and I would like to see some confirmation] Note that the doctor giving this treatment says the important element is the zinc, the hydroxychloroquine just acts as a helper getting the zinc into the body’s cells.
If this second treatment is as effective as it seems then the panic is OVER!
It is just another flu. Most people will have flu and recover, while those who develop serious symptoms will just have this treatment, from a pharmacy. And it is CHEAP!
No need to destroy the economy.
No need for social distancing.
Life can go back to normal.
No need for horrendously expensive novel drugs.
No need for extensive tracking!!!
I would imagine most developing economies will adopt this approach – they have little choice. They don’t have the medical facilities, or the wealth to buy expensive treatments. Brazil is definitely going ‘all-in’ on using hydroxychloroquine. One report says the UK’s NHS is beginning to test the use of hydroxychloroquine.
What will be interesting is the countries that don’t use this approach as it would suggest they have a particular agenda. There certainly seem to be some countries and individuals who seem hell-bent on preventing the use of this treatment.
HYDROXYCHLOROQUINE
From the article below :
“Every patient I’ve prescribed it to has been very, very ill and within 8 to 12 hours, they were basically symptom-free,” Cardillo told Eyewitness News, adding “So clinically I am seeing a resolution.”
Cardillo, CEO of Mend Urgent Care, says that the drug must be used in conjunction with Zinc, as the hdroxycholoroquine opens a ‘channel’ for the mineral to enter cells and prevent the virus from replicating.
This is a very powerful statement. While it needs to be verified it gives a simple treatment which at least can be tried OUTSIDE of a hospital by ANYONE. There are some precautions needed, for example I take Metformin and this would need flushing from my system before the drug could be given.
I read about how the elderly are being refused hospital admission, care homes where the staff are ill or self-isolating such that residents are being left dead in their beds.
I read about hospitals being swamped, staff infected and dying. ALSO all the routine functions of hospitals such as surgery and treatment for other illnesses are being suspended, leading to further death and suffering.
If the treatment above is remotely effective it should be given to those who start developing serious symptoms. It can be done in people’s homes and so help to stop the spread. It could mean hospitals actually being able to treat other people again.
I do not know if this treatment just alleviates the symptoms and help the body fight off the infection, or whether it does actually stop the disease. Are people still infectious after treatment?
Even so it does seem like a miracle cure with a drug which has been around for fifty years and whose side effects and problems are well known. It should be tried at every opportunity. While stocks are scarce due to hoarding fresh supplies from the manufacturers should be sufficient – it seems to be a ‘one-off’ treatment rather than ongoing, like its’ normal users. It would be criminal if this treatment was not used because of politics!
One [sort of] amusing thought : If Trump haters refuse to take it because he mentioned it and die, while Trump supporters take it and live, well I am sure Trump would shed a few crocodile tears!
HYDROXYCHLOROQUINE
The controversy over this drug is getting strange.
A French scientist says it is effective if give as soon as the disease is diagnosed. Then all supplies in France disappear!
An American doctor says it is very effective on seriously ill patients if given with a zinc supplement.
Some say it would need weeks of clinical trials. No it doesn’t – the drug has been around for fifty years!
It works or it doesn’t!
One thought is that this is so big pharma can make money from novel vaccines and other treatments, which could be a long time coming. Or never : there is no cure for HIV yet.
I personally get the feeling that Western governments are trying to make things as bad as possible – deliberately, not through incompetence. The lack of PPE even for medical staff, refusal to ramp up testing to massive levels, etc. Is this in order to justify the extreme monitoring schemes being proposed in various countries?
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/escobar-why-france-hiding-cheap-and-tested-virus-cure
IS THE CURE WORSE THAN THE DISEASE?
It is interesting that 1.7 million people in the UK feel that they have the virus. It seems usual for 30% of carriers to be asymptomatic, which would take the number of POSSIBLE cases over two million.
This helped me relax somewhat because it would imply that before self-isolating 15 days ago I was probably exposed to the virus and did not catch it.
It is right for people like me who are high risk to self-isolate BUT I depend on those who don’t. The milkman delivering milk, I have had some meals delivered. I have a supermarket delivery booked for about 15 days time, etc.
If, as seems possible, the food chain is affected such that supermarkets can not obtain fresh supplies of food for an unknown period – what happens? While people will not starve to death immediately it could lead to a breakdown of society where groups ransack peoples homes for supplies.
Also the economies of countries can be affected so they are literally bankrupt, leading to further breakdowns in society.
If two million Britons are or have been infected by the virus then the ‘confirmed cases’ are just those with problems [2.5%] and the deaths are just 0.25%.
This fits in with the claims of a German professor who is saying that this is just another flu and the death rate is about 0.25%. If the average age of those dying in Italy is 78 then people of this age die of ‘something’, this is just another ‘thing’.
Even if there are only 1 million cases of the virus in the UK [rather than 2 million] then we are way past the point where quarantining if of use. While people with high risk should self-quarantine, we need the rest of the country to function – to keep food supplies coming, to keep pensions coming, to still have a banking system. All this is at risk with the current approach.
VIRUS – UK
It is interesting that 1.7 million people in the UK feel that they might have the virus. It seems usual for 30% of carriers to be asymptomatic, which would take the number of POSSIBLE cases over two million.
We do not really know how long this virus has been around. A friend knows a couple of people who had a very strange kind of flu last November [in the UK]. In retrospect they feel sure it fits the description of the effects of the virus.
Similarly there were a lot of unexplained deaths in the US last year which in retrospect look like COVID-19.
Until a new disease is identified no-one is looking for it!
PS. The science fiction story was ‘Galactic Effectuator’ by Jack Vance. Note I had the spelling wrong!
Do we need effectuaters again?
To effectuate is to produce a result or make something happen.
During the second world war the US government appointed effectuaters. These were people with absolute power whose job it was to go to factories, find any problems or bottlenecks, and sort them out, by any means.
It does seem that such people would be useful in these circumstances. By ‘absolute power’ I mean they can override government departments [red tape], they can order things done and they WILL be done. Someone outside the normal management structure with the skill and intelligence to see what needs to be done and how to achieve it.
[Note : my source was actually a science fiction story! I did use the idea to suggest a senior manager create a similar job in the IT department I worked in. He took up the idea and my suggestion of who that person should be. It turned out to be very successful.]
Neoh
I am a Baby Boomer with health issues and have been self-isolating for the past ten days. I own a 4-bed house on the edge of London, I have savings in 4 figures, and receive three pensions! Not something that most 20 year olds can look forward to. If I die that wealth will be distributed mainly to younger generations, and similarly with other Boomers.
I wrote the piece somewhat tongue in cheek but there is an element of truth in it.
You say the Boomers are over the hill, but they run America! The Presidential candidates and most of Congress are Boomers, and I would guess the Senate. Plus people like George Soros and other billionaires who manipulate the world for fun [and profit].
“Shame about granny, but the money will come in useful!”
#COVIDIOTS
The US seems a perfect place for the virus to advance.
Much has been made about the Spring Breakers, usually under the tagline of #COVIDIOTS, but are they?
At their age they are unlikely to suffer serious illness, and are more likely to become asymptomatic carriers. Those most at risk are the Baby Boomers. This is the generation which has sucked up most of the future wealth of the US and left the bill to the Spring Breaker generation.
It is in the [logical] interest of the youngest generation to spread the disease as widely as possible!
VIRUS
It is interesting that there are five strains of the virus, including the relatively weak one in South Korea.
I wonder if infection with this mild strain gives immunity against the virulent strains in a kind of chickenpox/smallpox kind of way.
Boeing Bailout
I think the government should give cash for equity. If Boeing is worth 75 billion [plus 25 billion debt] then a 60 billion investment should give the government about 80% ownership.
A similar approach should be taken with other bailouts.
The equity can be sold off after recovery, which should be at a profit. If the US taxpayers are taking the risk they should reap any rewards.
If this is unacceptable to any company they can go to the market for finance.
Dr D
I assume your ‘not possible’ refers to my assertion the virus started in the US.
I read that the strain in Taiwan is also found in Australia and the USA.
The different strain in Italy is also found in Iran and the USA.
The strain in China is different to both of these strains so CAN NOT be the source of these infections.They must have a single country of origin and the only country with more than one strain of the virus is the US.
We now have virologists in China, Japan and Taiwan pointing to the US as the most probable source.
“..when you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth”
Source article :
China’s Coronavirus: A Shocking Update. Did The Virus Originate in the US?
OK, So only one virus, multiple strains
Most countries are infected by a single strain of the virus, so the virus must have originated externally. [This includes China]
The likely original source is that country which has all the different strains.
This country is the USA.
Although it most likely originated in a US biowarfare lab it is also most likely that it was released accidentally.
TWO VIRUSES?
From an article by Pepe Escobar : “… coronavirus genome variations in Iran and Italy were sequenced and it was revealed they do not belong to the variety that infected Wuhan”
Has anyone seen any corroboration for this statement?
No wonder Iran feels it was yet another product of a US Biowarfare lab!!!
Initially I was suspicious when the virus appeared in Iran as I thought it could have been spread deliberately. Then it seemed that it was probably just spread from China. If it is a different virus then this can not be the case.
The implications are horrific.
What about derivatives?
There is an estimated 1.5 quadrillion dollars worth of derivatives, dozens of times bigger than the whole global economy!
Gold and silver have been crashing for over a week but the price is mainly set by the COMEX derivatives where non-existent metal is traded. The selling can be many things : margin calls elsewhere; to stem losses; fear of counterparty risk and simply the bullion banks relieving punters of their money! Seems cheap unless you actually want to buy physical metal where there could be problems!
One popular derivative is insurance agianst a fall in share prices. I wonder what the damage is on these!?
Usually some security is given for derivatives so they are regarded as senior debt, which means derivatives must be paid even if it means using customers savings. Any money you give to a bank is the property of the bank.
Many banks have over 40 trillion dollars worth of derivatives and even the smallest problem could cause a cascading failure of the global banking system.
I feel that if this is at all likely then ALL derivatives should be declared null and void.
VIRUS
Very interesting article about how fresh air and sunshine was used to combat the flu in 1918. With fresh air and UV acting as disinfectants it could reduce the spread. It also suggests that the best kind of hospital could be a MASH unit. These would be easier to set up and be very flexible as to location.
We know that being confined in a tight space with many others helps the spread, whether it is a ship’s cabin or a hospital. Tent based hospitals could be quickly built in quantity. The main issue would be power supply and mobile oxygen and ventilators [and staff].
https://www.zerohedge.com/health/covid-19-sun-lesson-1918-influenza-pandemic
