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Maybe I’m not so far from Kunstler, thinking a bit more. While I accept the scientific consensus on the cause of climate change (sorry Bisco, I don’t know enough about sun spots), the consensus response to climate change (totally corrupted by fossil fuel lobby and money politics) is about as bad as it gets, not unlike the consensus response to covid.
If tptb are willing to let the planet die under climate change (to ensure continued existence of the fossil fuel industry — really???), then vaccinating us all to death is just all in a day’s work.I beg to differ from Kunstler where he says that the same people who question vaccine safety also question the climate change narrative. For me this has not been the case, nor for many friends. In fact it is odd to recon with the fact that I accept the broad scientific consensus around climate change (that it is caused by human activity in this case) but I don’t accept the broad scientific consensus that vaccination is the best way to deal with the pandemic.
John Day thank you for your handy dandy OTC protocol- just shared it with a friend whose brother is sick.
Finished orchard chores early today and hauled the kayaks over to a nearby pond for a paddle. Glorious.
Bosco re your cancer: for certain types of skin cancer there is the egg plant and apple cider cure touted by Dr. Oz and Mercola no less. I used it successfully several times for skin abnormalities and it worked like a charm. Price is right and all ingredients available at your local grocer.
Bosco glad to see you back. I’m kind of on the same page re where we are headed. We can’t as a species seemingly get ourselves to respond sensibly to existential threats that are not immediate for us. In relation to the COP meeting, banks have been caught cheating again, overstating their climate change efforts. Other big players also caught over-stating the real impacts of their efforts. You would think that now, if ever, is the time for honesty, but nope! In my social circle, the chatter among many is getting back to jetting off somewhere now that the world is open again. They are all vaxed and covid is the only threat they adjust their behaviour for – not climate change.
Getting the orchard ready for its winter sleep, spreading compost and hardwood chips, raking leaves and spreading Lyme on them to hasten decomposition, mowing, doing the final natural spray (neem, kelp etc) on the bark of the mostly leafless trees, and installing wire mesh around the trunks to keep hungry voles from stripping the bark when they over winter. Getting chilly now, but working is easier in the cool weather and the air is fresh and beautiful this time of year.Attention Canadians: Don’t forget to sign the petition against vaccine mandates and passports. Apparently there is a bit of a problem with seeing the ‘sign with a click’ button- you may have to try a different browser if this happens to you. Here’s the link to the petition:
https://www.change.org/p/abolish-vaccine-passport-program-and-mandates?recruiter=449809438&utm_source=share_petition&utm_campaign=psf_combo_share_initial&utm_medium=whatsapp&utm_content=washarecopy_30477032_en-CA%3A1&recruited_by_id=8c928730-a420-11e5-bd60-c30e44660341Just in: the Ontario government will not be mandating vaccines for health care workers. I guess they are seeing the writing on the wall. In Nova Scotia, a high school graduate with a 94% average could not get into nursing because, get this, nursing training requires some period of supervised work, and nurses who are working are so busy that they don’t have time to train new nurses.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/nursing-shortage-program-seats-1.6234226For Canadian readers: there is a petition currently being circulating asking for the cancellation of vaccine passports. If you want to sign here is the link:
https://chng.it/KDMWVr645DTheTrivium I have some of the same sense as you re : the focus on covid. On health threats imposed by TPTB we can now pick from a menu of crap they visit on us in addition to vaccines (eg GMOs, glyphosate, all manner of plastics – spoiler alert they are not just in masks). Then there’s environmental devastation and ecocide. As for loss of freedoms, let’s not forget what was visited on us under Bush (patriot act) and then the spying that was conducted under Obama. I don’t know either what the best way to engage is…
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https://www.lymedisease.org/Boiling Frog – I read a lot of Gibran many years ago and found inspiration in his works too!
Yes, there seem to be many truths, mixed with other ‘stuff’. What the real picture is, I am going to assume that I don’t know the whole picture and may never know it, and I’ll just learn to accept it. I am not a believer in grand conspiracies, not saying they may not be true but I am invariably drawn to the good old fashioned greed and incompetence.
On Lyme: here is a link on the latest info on Lyme. Spoiler alerts1)the one shot of doxy is not considered effective; and 2) the issues around counting incidence of Lyme, treatments, and getting tested have remarkable parallels to covid… sigh. I even saw discussions of using ivermectin for Lyme.
I have had dozens of tick bites over the years (as have my friends and neighbours). They itched and swelled and looked awful for weeks, but so far no disease. Some even left scars visible months later. They say it is a novel illness and there is no immunity, but testing shows almost half the ticks around here carry disease, so either I am incredibly lucky and never got bitten by a diseased tick, or I have developed some level of immunity (as have others around here).As of October 26, 70% of Japanese are fully vaccinated.
https://www.nst.com.my/world/region/2021/10/740047/covid-19-vaccination-rate-tops-70pc-japanRussia is imposing reasonably severe measures due to very high covid rates, which are attributed to low vaccination uptake. Danes are seeing a surge and they are also prepared to take draconian measures if needed. China is vaccinating its kids, just like the US.
What is the take home msg here? Governments of all stripes all around the world, who would arguably not cooperate well with each other, are all doing pretty much the same things. I have serious doubts about the long-term safety and effectiveness of the vax, but the fact that just about every govt is doing the same thing (even govts that would happily blow each other to smithereens) makes me pause.
Question about ADE: if it is an issue only for those people whose first exposure to a corona virus is the vax, I would guess that ADEb would be a problem for only a very small number of people (especially very young children) who have not already been infected with a corona virus (if you haven’t had any corona viruses I would like to know your secret). Am I missing something?
Mounties4freedom now has over 53,000 signatories (includes partner organizations involved in health and first responders). This is a big increase from yesterday when count was 40,000.
Judge rejects pilot’s challenge to Southwest Vaccine Mandate https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-pandemic-business-health-dallas-barbara-lynn-4da341c2b01e9fe3a4568ca0c56016f2
In better news, Alabama hospital ends vaccine requirement for workers, for the moment:
Alabama Hospital Defies Biden Administration, Ends COVID Vaccine Requirement for Staff
Also in the good news department, in Ottawa (Canada) the police service is not mandating the vaccine! The mayor is a little upset about it – makes him look bad mandating the vax for all other city workers.
Clarification on the Mounties 4 Freedom: it seems to have started as an RCMP initiative but morphed into a multi-organization initiative as others decided to sign in – maybe this is how they got such high numbers well in excess of RCMP head count. I take back my criticism -it looks like events are just overtaking them but in a good way.
The “Mounties for Freedom” have chosen a name that suggests this is a group of federal police officers, but this is incorrect. Also, the site for this organization indicates a huge number of police organizations that are signatories l, but it is highly unlikely that entire municipal police forces are signatories. Very unfortunate that they have so misrepresented themselves. I have zero confidence in this group.
Never heard of the politics behind the Irish immigration to North America, but I’m very familiar with the late blight that can destroy a potato or tomato crop almost overnight (I’ve dumped 100 pounds of tomatoes that were destroyed in less than a week by late blight – literally not a single tomato was salvageable). I’m also familiar with fire blight in fruit trees -another disease that, when conditions are favourable, can cause huge damage. Without the options of buying food from other regions, I can see how people could starve when serious plant diseases strike essential food stuffs
Taking a moment to think of Saul, Oxy, Phoenix Voice and others with young families or bills to pay that coerce them in their decisions around the vaccine.
Re the RCMP letter: there is some inconsistency in the count of signatories. The letter says it is signed by active duty members.However the letter says 43,000 have signed but there are only 19,000 RCMP members. There are also civilian members but that would only bring us to less than 30,000 potential signatories (and it would be highly unlikely that all would have signed).
Interesting link showing how Canadian workers who received covid financial assistance moved up in droves from hospitality services to professional services, leaving a gaping hole in the number of coffee servers. So much for the meme that we need to stop financial assistance to get people back to work.
https://monitormag.ca/articles/tipping-point-pandemic-forced-restaurant-and-bar-workers-into-better-paying-jobs-2Doc Robinson – for sure, these authors are grasping at anything to squeeze out a positive story about the covid vax. Infer that correlation equals causation, cherry pick your population and wow they can tell the story they want to tell.
Dr.D here’s the problem with the idea that we should not ‘point a gun at the rich’ to make them share their wealth: invariably their wealth was achieved thru support of public funding or thru the use of what would be considered the property of the commons. Think of those first movers who took control of fossil fuel resources – who decided that these should just go to the guys who put the first straws into yye ground? Where is the moral argument for this? Businesses benefit from publicly funded infrastructure of all kinds – for all modes of transport, education of their workforce, healthcare, regulatory framework; security. Without all of these things (subsidized by tax payers) they would not be able to operate. It is wilful blindness to ignore this. The wealthy (whose wealth was accumulated thanks to collective infrastructure m) absolutely must be expected to share their wealth.
On the abhorrent puppy experiment: folks, much health-related research is done with animals – this ain’t new under Faucci. I could make you want to vomit a lot more if you want to hear more stories; but what are we doing about the testing of drugs and treatments that involve non-human animals? Don’t some of us want non-human animal testing before we try stuff on humans? How morally-acceptable is this?Phoenix Voice I love your commentary on capitalism and socialism and your detailing how you are navigating our current brutal system.
John Day you a showed grace in a terrible situation. Maybe this is the best we can all do under the circumstances. Thank you for sharing your story.
Sounds like your clinic management would do whatever it takes not to have to “eat crow” and backtrack on letting you go with the cancellation of vax mandates in Texas.Boogaloo good point – the situation in Russia and Moscow in particular is dire. What is frustrating is the government response around the globe almost without exception is wrong.
I am at a point that I don’t see rational argument as being an option – the brain washing is just too complete. Maybe I’m wrong but that’s how it looks to me. I don’t see any option other than straight up resistance. We already know in spades that vax is dangerous and ineffective and safe treatments exist. Government is forcing vax and denying treatment. We got it-what to do in response to this issue is the gap in info at this point. Unfortunately the protests in my area have been deeply aligned with fascists and I cannot join them because this is also a terrible option (moneyed interests already own governments but fascists would put the icing on the cake).
So many shared stories of personal hardship but at the same time there are such uplifting stories of how people continue to live with meaning and integrity in spite of hardship.
Where are things at? Comments on Zerohedge reflect an opinion I share: there are too few vax refusers to make a significant impact. It will be interesting to see the response to backing kids, but I won’t be surprised if this too rolls out without a hitch, based on some parents I know. Small numbers of refusers will be much easier to isolate and be discriminated against. Breakouts among the fully-Vaxed will be blamed on the unvaxed, I’m predicting.
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I have it on good authority that CBD is very good for seasonal allergies (assuming you live in a jurisdiction in which it is legal).All you marvellous commenters and Ilargi: keep it coming. Every day I am awe-struck here at TAE. You are rays of sunshine and truth and showing everyone where the real beauty of life is.
https://ratical.org/PandemicParallaxView/EyeOfTheStorm-ProfMattiasDesmet.html
Interesting link describing the current social condition as a mass psychosis, plus some advice on how to navigate it.
Regarding the upcoming flu season, my understanding is that everyone who has been locked down has a weakened immune system, not just the vaxed. Apparently the immune system should be considered like a muscle (ie no exposure to bugs means a flabby immune system).
Congrats to you John Day!
But Zerosum the dengue example shows that ADE can happen just from a person experiencing multiple infections of the same virus (mutated) without any involvement of a vaccine. I think Van den Bossche states that adding a vaccine to the mix makes the ADE situation much worse.
Quote from the Nature journal article suggests that it is not only vaxxed who may have a problem:
“This would not be the first case where exposure to one strain of a virus can worsen infection with another. In the mosquito-borne disease dengue fever, for example, people who have been infected with one strain are likely to suffer a worse infection if they pick up a second strain.”
Clueless Honky what you are saying makes total sense to me. When the numbers for the current situation are leaning in a direction opposite to what the numbers are expected to be in the future, it is pretty difficult to make a compelling case, based on my own experience. The fact that your expected future scenario is contrary to the mainstream narrative pretty much buried any chance of convincing anyone.
We talk about “rubber band” conversations: you provide an evidence-based argument that is contrary to the mainstream narrative, and the listener takes it in, looks like a deer in the headlights, and after leaving the conversation bounces back to the emotional safety of the dominant narrative. This emotional drain of going against the brainwashing is another element that discourages people from incorporating inconvenient truths.Chris Hedges’ article highlights the pro-corporate bias among judges. The judiciary also seem to not want to overturn the draconian pandemic safety and health initiatives implemented by governments, presumably because losing rights is seen as necessary under the circumstances. For these reasons, I can’t see any realistic hope of going to court to fight against government covid policies – the chance of winning looks vanishingly small. What to do? Ineffective vaccines get buried in deceitful numbers. Chris Hedges has said that, because of the extreme power (and fire power) of police, getting police on your side is necessary, as imperfect as they are (I have vivid memories of protesting against the G20 meetings aimed at solidifying the control of Uber capitalists, and the police role was very clearly to protect these capitalists from the unwashed masses.).
I liked JM Greer’s commentary on responding to a contracting economy by essentially rejecting employment in large institutions and focusing on producing things that are needed by oneself and one’s friends and neighbours. Almost all small organic farmers in our circle recognize the deck is stacked against the small fry, and have withdrawn partly from selling stuff into this crazy market. We fir the most part trade our produce with produce from other organic farmers – we all put sweat equity on the table to produce quality that we all value. Also a good way to build community with those who have capacity and are willing to do the kind of work that is shunned by most in the first world.Last point: I hate to take some of the mystique away, but governments in different regions rolling out the same programs at the same time is business as usual – not a new conspiracy. I did strategic program evaluation for quite a few years and can confirm that many national government programs are rolled out across the globe at more or less the same time — policy makers communicate with each other and develop ideas collaboratively.
PS now would be a great time for some other nation to invade Canada, since our military will all be busy teaching kids at school, providing health care, driving truck etc.
Re martial law being brought in in Canada: it will not be as easy as one might think to implement this. First of all, the military was already called in last year to help out in long term care in Quebec. Military folks did find terrible lapses in care, but it is recognized that this was as much as anything a reflection of long- term under-resourcing. In addition, hospitals all have their own procedures and information systems (inconveniently not uniform even within one city in some cases), making it difficult for military to just jump in and effectively deliver service. This will be a total mess to implement and I have trouble believing that this will be the way tptb are going to take over. How much military do we have on standby to cover off all the non-vaxed truck drivers, health care workers, police, fire fighters, educators etc. Like we’re these military folks just standing around doing nothing waiting fir an assignment to come along? Presumably their regular work is being put on hold. If the idea is that the military will be called in to pinch-hit in all sectors for the unvaxed, this sounds ridiculous to me. There’s no way that these folks could be deployed all over the place and deliver effective replacement of the unvaxed – my prediction. If this is how TPTB are taking control of the universe, it will look like the Mickey Minnie and Moe show. They won’t scare too many people but they will look as incompetent as heck for trying to pull this off.
Migrating towards historical normalcy through productive useful contributions – sage advice.
Glad to hear your successful experiments with shelling peas. If you discover any techniques that could be applied to shelling hazelnuts please don’t hesitate to share!An unvaxed friend just posted that she lost her family physician (in Quebec) because the physician refused to be vaxed. Insane times.
Just listened to Germ’s cancer link.
Surprise! Big pharma and their hand maids the blinded physicians (not you John Day) continuing the same business model with covid that they developed for cancer treatment! No need for deep dark conspiracy theories circling around covid – condemning ivermectin is just the usual $trategy.
