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ParticipantHi John Day. What solvent easily removes tar without exposing a person to unhealthy toxins? Hmmmm …. đ
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ParticipantWell my, my, my … I just received a [very long] text from Nancy Pelosi begging for a donation of $14 in this “make-or-break moment” … which is the perfect opportunity to “replace every last extremist Republican” during the upcoming elections. Dear Nancy, me thinks the Democratic party needs to update their database. đ
I was a #walkaway following the 2016 Democratic Primary debacle. Literally registered Republican for the first time in my life after that BS (prefer to be Independent, which I registered as for awhile, but NY has closed primaries and if you don’t have a primary affiliation you get shut out, and I hated that).
I’m embarrassed to admit I voted for Obama in his first round. Caught on within a few months that was a dumb move and voted 3rd party during his second run. And then it was 2020. I voted straight Republican ticket (vote red no matter who … wait, that doesn’t rhyme).
I’m considering starting a new political party focused on “voting for whichever politician doesn’t look like they were embalmed a decade ago …”
Hi Oxy. đ Life has sucked pretty awful lately and I don’t have the energy or desire to participate in online debates. However, I do agree with you – Dr D is a major contribution to this message board. I look forward to his posts. They get me thinking. I’m sorry V.Arnold sees it differently. And it’s curious V.A. does since John Day (also a welcome addition) isn’t criticized for doing the same thing? But who am I to question anything.
Mainly I just don’t get it anymore Whatever it is.
Oh, and PS [Oxy] … yes, there is more to life than the physical reality. Along the lines of “all that is” no matter what someone names it. Animals know this and abide by it … humans, kinda dumb, struggle with it.
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Participant@aspnaz: you’re still watching at a granular level. Take a big step back.
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ParticipantDr D (#113151):
“Things DID get done and they know it and are afraid of it. They just canât tell you or us what those things are, what theyâre really afraid of and really doing. And WHY canât they say? Because it would blow the whole op.”And also: “They are desperate to find the hidden moles, and Trump is a master at making them go guilty and wildly overreact. There may be 50 honest guys in the whole government, but do long as Trump can make them overreact, theyâre exposed and losing. To us the people as WE are the only army large enough to stop them.”
Agreed. Actions speak louder than words. Watch what’s happening. Stop trying to talk *over* what the MSM is spouting. That’s wasted energy. Stay silent … just wait and watch. All of these things needed to happen to create the oppositional energetic [re]action. Things had to get this far over the top. Americans as a people are quite easy going and peaceful, otherwise we’d all be dead based on the number of guns in this country. But there comes a time when Americans have had enough.
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Participant“But the allure of power has proven too tempting for the worst among us. We are all watching as all the things we love â the way of life that many generations have fought to protect â are being swept away. And it is happening with not nearly enough explanation or protest.
These are not the most terrifying times in history but they are among the most terrifying in our lifetimes in the West. Where are the parties and movements that defend freedom as a first principle? Where are the successors to Voltaire, Locke, Goethe, Paine, and Jefferson, among the many great thinkers who sacrificed so much for the liberal vision of a social order in which people manage their own lives?
Such people are here, many of them writing for Brownstone among other venues, and producing books and podcasts to get around the opinion cartel being built by censors public and private.
What difference can they make and how? This much is true: what man has made, man can unmake and make something new: a new Magna Carta, whether formal or de facto. The urgency has never been more intense. A state without an acquiescing populace is powerless in the end. But not without struggle.”
The bold emphasis is mine. In support of what Dr D tells us on an almost daily basis.
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Participant@EoinW: “Iâm thinking 1939 movies this morning. The Wizard of Oz crossed my mind.”
Phenomenal.
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ParticipantPS … kind of like arguing over which country is “winning” the Ukraine vs Russian war. Seriously? Ok.
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ParticipantRaul: “There will be a huge -and probably violent- backlash against the entire gender âdiscussion.” Just as there will be to the Covid âmeasuresâ. […] But it will fail, because boys vs girls, and immune systems, go back to our very core, and cannot be reversed at will.”
Thank you for stating this so succinctly. Absolutely agree. These darned things are barely limping along on two legs now. Not worth the screen space, typing time, or breath to argue about.
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ParticipantâEuropeâs countries, under the shortsighted leadership of the United States, were âsleepwalkingâ into war with Russia.â
I just keep scratching my head at stuff like this because, what, no one in any European country can think for themselves so everything that happens is someone else’s fault? Well past time for people to put on their big boy pants and quit with the finger pointing to absolve themselves of all responsibility for their actions.
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Participant@Veracious: “So, either humanity evolves -or- perishes ~ That is the question”
It is the ego that thinks it is one or the other.
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Participant@boilingfrog: “Twitter is bought by a zillionaire who opened up his space collection to help Ukraine …”
I actually have no problem with Musk opening his satellites to Ukraine. He’s a businessman. He has a product. Someone asked to use it. He let them. Seems a nice change from the businesses that base their business decisions on politics, especially the woke politics. Maybe Musk isn’t taking sides? Idk, I don’t pay attention. But maybe if Russia had asked, Musk would open the satellites to them as well.
As far as Musk blocking someone on Twitter – individuals block others all the time. No big deal. That’s their prerogative. Has nothing to do with Twitter bans/deletions impacting free speech. Just how dumb are these twit-f*cks anyhow? People need to put out the fire that’s raging in their hair and get a grip. Musk’s a big boy. He seem pretty brilliant. He’ll figure out the Twitter thing. Get out the popcorn. Should be interesting. But definitely not worth burning your hair off over.
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Participant@Kassandra: “As someone who works in IT (started in 1998 in SF, CA) I had a front row seat for all of it. A friend I used to work with had a theory that working in IT (or with IT all day) was driving people crazy because in essence it meant you were living in an abstraction … Even those of us building systems and deploying code couldnât really âseeâ anything we did.”
Utterly fascinating. I work in FRONT of a computer all day, which I consider terribly dehumanizing, but I hadn’t considered how different it would be if I were “behind the scenes,” so to speak, building the platforms. You can’t “see” anything but a bunch of code on a screen. 40+ hours a week. Code. Code. Code. On a screen.
Thank you for the insights you’ve been serving up lately. đ
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ParticipantReally, Oros, must we see those freaking Hunter pictures? The guy is disgusting.
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ParticipantRaul, “Harris had been scheduled to receive her intelligence briefing at 10:15 am ET Tuesday.”
Not to worry overly about that. Harris’ intelligence briefing MIGHT be a bit different than that of others in the WH. Sort of an … intelligence … in brief, so to speak … “Ukraine is a country in Europe. Russia is a much BIGGER country on its border. Russia invaded Ukraine for no reason … “
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Participant@Veracious: ain’t that the truth. đ
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Participant@Michael Reid: “Bad is the opposite of good.”
Linear thinking. Evolution doesn’t happen in a straight line (despite human’s attempts to state such). Nothing natural is straight. Nothing. Bad vs Good is not a “perfect balance” between the two. Gray areas exist.
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Participant@Dr D: “And the West does not beat around the bush regarding this official policyâ of forcing Russian defaults that donât exist and stealing all of every other nationâs stuff. No, and itâs amazing to watch. What do you think the other nations will do? Sit around and let us?”
Ha ha ha ha ha … roflol. Sure, that’s what every other nation is doing. Watching the theft and thinking, no problem, nothing to see here, won’t ever impact me. (NOT). West civ went from shooting itself in the foot, to shooting itself in the head. Amazing to see in real time.
You nailed it today: “âEvilâ is not the opposite of good, Satan is in no way equal (but opposite) to God. âGoodâ is as the Tao, a unity of flow without conflict. A chorus singing in tune. âEvilâ is merely separation from Unity, itâs an illusion that we are NOT all one, united in love. As Satan wished to separate himself from God, a false expression of ego.”
I’ll be saving that gem. I don’t think I’ve seen it described so succinctly. Hats off. Not sure who you are, but your thinking skills are quite exceptional.
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Participant@Kassandra: interesting, and I’m hearing similar concerns in my industry (write grants for nonprofits). For example, recent nonprofit client that provides well-recognized, high quality youth theatre education programs for ages 5 -18 (separated into 3 groups by age). Said the kids have come back from lockdown, etc., and are basically unmanageable. Bouncing off the walls, very short attention spans, communication skills have deteriorated. They’re trying to figure out how to deal with it – they’re thinking it will be slow going to bring the kids back to where they would have been prior.
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Participant“In my experience, the reality of the dilemma facing discussions of âRELATED AND PERTINENT (AND YET DIFFERENT)â hard truths is as fruitless as trying to explain water to a goldfish⌔
“… most of the âindoctrinatedâ seldom stray far from personal bias, focusing instead on âtopicsâ they are titillated by and/or familiar with.”
Veracious has a point … can’t argue it.
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ParticipantPS … I always read and appreciate Dr D. He nails stuff to the wall in a way no one else does. Calls it out for the stupidity it is. Can’t beat that with a stick.
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ParticipantD. Benton Smith: BUT there is also the world of the purely spiritual where we all go for respite ( and sanctuary!! ), doing so as spiritual awareness in our hearts and minds and prayers because that is what spiritual awareness is.
“Between those two worlds is the murky gray-zone nebulous battlefield we now stand upon, a place called the World As We Thought We Knew It. Are you here to fight for the survival of that World ? or do you prefer to constrain the conversation to debates about stock markets, money and politics? Itâs okay if you do prefer to constrain!! Those are all valid topics. But the point I need to convey is that there are other RELATED AND PERTINANT (AND YET DIFFERENT), advanced and urgent, âtopicsâ that I must attend to.”
Na, you nailed it. John Day is being optimistic with the “working ok” observation. Really, is it? Conversations about stock markets, money, politics and (totally un-PC with this) Ukraine/Russia conflict (it’s not a war) are not getting us anywhere. It’s just an endless conversation, and waste of precious energy, about the new “topic du jour” that we have no control over and cannot impact even if we wanted to. Think otherwise? Go ahead, contact your “elected representatives” and tell them you don’t agree with a hot war with Russia. Let me know how that works out.
You are correct. As is susmarie with her comments, because in her own way she presents the same idea … leave the BS behind, go find the *real* world and live in that.
Yes, there are other related and pertinent topics to attend to. They’re called real life – that life we used to live before the internet got in the way.
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Participant@boilingfrog: “As I read, as I watch, as I grieve…”
Me, too. At least the grieving part. I do very little of the reading and watching part.
The media needs to stop banging on about it. The West needs to stay the f*ck out of it, for once. Frankly, if it turns into nuclear war, that’s what we deserve. I hope I’m located in the “vaporized” zone since that’ll be the least painful way out of this.
We went from “hair on fire” about Trump (which was just plain stupid), to covid, to vaccines, to Ukraine vs Russia. Talk about being led around by the nose.
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ParticipantLink to the full Malone interview referenced in the Twitter post Raul provided today. It’s fairly succinct and covers most aspects of the injections currently being discussed – mRNA hanging around instead of breaking down within hours as originally stated, auto immune deficiency syndrome (isn’t the AIDS virus itself, btw), the rise in cancers, issues with female reproductive organs, injecting children, etc.
https://rumble.com/vwwv1h-truth-what-is-truth-an-interview-with-dr-robert-malone.html
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Participant@Raul, I read them. Thank you for the effort you put in. Appreciated.
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Participant@John Day: ” If the spike protein was still being exuded from cells at 4 months, though at reduced rate, that is most consistent with mRNA instructions to âmake spike proteinâ gradually being broken down.”
I call BS on that statement. The vaxx mRNA was described as similar to natural mRNA in that it breaks down within hours of injection. It was never ever [ever] described as an mRNA that breaks down sometime, maybe, possibly, we’re not sure … sometime over the next 4 or more months.
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Participant@WES, you don’t need to provide links. I read and enjoy all of your comments. Dr D doesn’t provide links, but his comments have prompted me to go find links to verify his information, which is always interesting. Appears you’re in good company. đ
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Participant@Doc Robinson, thank you. đ I was aware of the study but didn’t have the link. Leave it to you to come through with solid data. lol. As always, appreciate your input, which is consistently backed up with links to the information you share.
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Participant@anticlimactic: âThe Shots May Be Altering Human DNA to Produce Spike Protein on a Long-Term Basisâ âThere is no âmay beâ about it. From the very first articles I read about the mRNA vaccines they described that they âworkedâ by genetically modifying cells to produce the spike protein âŚâ
@John Day: âSpike protein should not persist after a few months, because the mRNA, modified to last much-longer, does eventually break down âŚâFirst, are we *sure* that happens? Has an autopsy been done that definitively shows that the synthetic mRNAs breaks down and is carried harmlessly away as waste product after a period of time? We would need to biopsy and study under high magnification every tissue in the body to determine this fact, and it hasnât been done. And thereâs a little voice in my head that keeps thinking ⌠how long does it take plastic to break down?
And, the response does not respond to the initially-stated concern. Assuming that synthetically-produced and synthetic-lipid encapsulated mRNA does break down on some timeline that no one has yet conclusively determined ⌠the question remains ⌠how has that mRNA impacted the bodyâs cells long-term? Idk, I think weâve ridiculously oversimplified this topic â almost as if weâre considering our bodies the equivalent of what happens when we insert a flash drive into our laptops. Pull the flash drive out, done! But what did that flash drive do while it was inserted?
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Participant@V. Arnold: “Regarding the decision not to vaccinate and rely on IVM and HCQ in case of infectionâŚI also had bouts of fear when taking full responsibility for my actions⌔
That is entirely normal. It gets easier over time but self-doubt never completely goes away, which is a good thing. Keeps a person from getting arrogant. I started 20+ years ago, beginning with vet care for my two black labs, and it grew from there to include my own health care. (Although not getting vaxxed was a no-brainer).
We’ve been programmed for decades to look to medical professionals to make the decisions, solve our health problems. Taking responsibility is a leap of faith – in ourselves – which has been eroded by the system.
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ParticipantSorry for multiple posts. Dropping this link here for any French citizens who will be voting in phase 2 (or whatever y’all call it) in the near future and are considering options. It’s about covid, energy, and the “worship of zero” by those in power (looking at you, Macron).
“The populism so scorned by the elite is a natural reaction to this fundamental inconsistency. Whether Le Pen prevails in France or not, the mere fact that it is a possibility reveals the seething discontent of large numbers of folks at the presumptions of their betters. And this is just the latest example of the disconnect between the Zeroes who presume rule, and those whom they presume to rule.”
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ParticipantJeffrey Tucker, who nails a point to the wall using far fewer words than most:
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Participant@susmarie: lol. sure! A glass of red it is – or two!! đ I wanted to respond to your question about the spike protein and the vaxx vs natural infection response but unfortunately I *think* in big picture, not details, so although I *get* concepts, it’s hard for me to explain them.
What I’ll say is … yes, people with the vaxx are more prone to bad outcomes because the body has been trained (via mRNA telling its own cells to produce a specific spike protein) to recognize only one aspect of the virus (the original spike) and so it can’t effectively respond to the whole virus, making overall immune response to spike proteins less effective. That’s really really really simplified.
But, frankly, if you haven’t been vaxxed, don’t worry. Your body knows what to do. And at this point, the sheer size of the “long covid” cohort needs to be called into question. Is it long covid? Or is it the results of vaxx damage? (and I ask this as someone with “chronic lyme disease” which I don’t consider chronic lyme at all, I consider it immune dysregulation due to infection)
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Participant@germ: your boriquagato (bad cattitude) links today are disturbing. This would actually be a disaster, an absolute disaster, for much of western civ. I’m going to pour a glass of red now.
@red: speaking of red … the US healthcare system works exactly the same as yours. Not sure why we have personal physicians anymore – just a skimming layer I guess.upstateNYer
Participant@Noirette: thank you. Always enjoy your posts. The insights into the French election cycle are especially appreciated. As an aside, I was terribly disappointed when Macron was elected, and I don’t even somewhat follow France politics. He has not disappointed in that respect.
On Brownstone today, a devastating take down of the pharmaceutical industry, FDA, CDC, et al, complete with links to supporting info. Hats off to this author.
Even if you already know this stuff, this piece is worth the read.
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Participant@phoenix: I’m sorry about your church. My spirituality has re-emerged quite a bit over the past two years and I was considering returning to church service after decades. I spent time researching all the congregation options within a half hour or so and discovered that no churches have actually returned to “normal” and are having unmasked, un-socially distanced services. Horribly disappointing – I decided to bag the whole idea. You summed it up perfectly with this “….they are faith-based upon the dictates of revered authorities.”
And in doing so have broken the basic tenet of religious belief: Thou shalt have no other God before me.
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ParticipantâIf I were you I would go after UpstateNYer and see if we could make a life together. At the very least you may be able to help each other.â
Mr House: Huh?
I dunno. I don’t get it, either.
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Participant@Mr House: yours was a reasonable response. As to Otis’ response “1 million + people in the US have died from this disease.” Ask for a link to that stat. Even the CDC says people died WITH, not from covid, and that the vast majority of those who died had multiple comobidities.
All in all, not sure why you stress yourself over at NC. The site decayed so badly several years ago I stopped visiting at all – not even to skim – and also stopped donating.
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ParticipantDr D: “This sort of free-floating regime of terror, where everything can be lost for a word, a look, an accusation, is the hallmark of totalitarian regimes, and specifically Fascist ones, since they add the aspect of propaganda, conformity, and social pressure outside of due process and law …”
You have to resist and oppose this …”
Four months into my new job with a highly woke company and I’m already in trouble for opposing the stereotyping of an entire group of people (whites, of course) rather than considering each person as an individual. My misbehavior has been escalated up to the company’s CEO. Management asserts I’m experiencing white vulnerability because I’m “coming to terms with” a new way of looking at racial equity.
Yawn.
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ParticipantVeracious: “I donât know which is worse; The religion of Vatican appointed Kings, or the religion of woke anointed SJWs⌔
Ahhhh those points to ponder! đ
PS … funny. Very funny. lol
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Participantezlxa1949: I’m no expert on this, but the “elite” are, at heart, the same as everyone else. After all, they do put their pants on one leg at a time. When all other fresh meat is gone, they will turn on and eat their own before they relinquish power. Case in point: Bear Stearns.
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