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  • in reply to: Debt Rattle October 28 2020 #64949
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    @Doc Robinson

    My error. It was from National Geographic; “25 percent were still recovering after two months or longer”. It was a study of pregnant women. Like obesity, diabetes, high blood pressure, age; pregnancy changes to the immune system and made the participants more susceptible to the virus.

    2.5% of the current number of US cases for two years calculates out to about 319,194.

    CDC has reported back in July that “As many as a third of patients who were never sick enough to be hospitalized are not back to their usual health up to three weeks after their diagnosis”

    Still the basic problem of letting the virus run free is that the illnesses have reached the current number of intensive care beds in the many hot spots across the nation and a large number of long term illness that will cost billions to treat are possible in the future. All because they didn’t close the borders or fund a public health system to fight the virus but decided to wait for a vaccine in 2021.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle October 28 2020 #64945
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    There are opposing world views out there. One the pandemic is no big deal. Another is that trying to save the lives of the elderly is a humane undertaking worthy of restoring democracy and funding a functional public health system.

    But this interpretation from “Multi-organ impairment in low-risk individuals with long COVID” report is terrifying. “In a young, low-risk population with ongoing symptoms, almost 70% of individuals have impairment in one or more organs four months after initial symptoms of SARS-CoV-2 infection”.

    This turns the world upside down. China made the right decision. The USA the wrong one. The Trump Administration turning the White House into a super-spreader site and letting coronavirus run wild is way beyond being Herbert Hoover the Second. It is civilization destroying bad; not unlike, Tojo, Napoleon or Nero. Long haul symptoms are reported in 25% of the cases. If 25% of 9,119,836 Americans already infected (2,279,969 million) and 70% of them need long term healthcare (1,595,971), and a greater number to be infected through 2021 this helps to break the national bank unless public health system takes care of them for half the cost of the for-profit insurance scheme.

    If the exploitation of the little people continues together with the arrogance and the incompetency of the ruling elite; Civil War 2.0 is a certainty.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle October 25 2020 #64825
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    Today’s era first started when Jimmy Carter took the first stabs in the back of the New Deal with deregulation and privatization of the US Government. George W Bush ignited the steam roller when Dick Cheney decided to invade Iraq, based on lies; against the best interests of Americans. Barrack Obama dispensed with the rule of law; deciding that Wall Street is too big to fail. Donald Trump tilted with all his might against La La Land.

    2020 became a no choice election during a time of pestilence, universal incompetence, and corruption. The US federal government and the Western Empire fell. The White House continues to be a super-spreader site. We are observers at the end. If the past is any guide to the future, when debts become too great to be paid, they aren’t.

    A New Dark Age ruled by feudal Big Men armed with nuclear weapons in walled cities protected against migrations is coming along with mass deaths. Unless a human extinction event occurs first. “Russia is said to have built a new 100-megaton underwater nuclear doomsday device, and it has threatened the US with it.”

    Sustainability, ending inequality and costing externalities provide a possible humane future for mankind.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle October 24 2020 #64792
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    The West has one system. It is to make a profit. Government, Society, and the Law have all been dismantled to maximize the organization’s sole goal; making more money. Donald Trump is still an oligarch even though he is his family’s Third-generation Money Loser. Joe Biden is a First-generation Professional Politician who is way too old to be running for election once again. Hunter is his 50-year-old crack head offspring who’s not Beau.

    The coronavirus pandemic could have been controlled in the West with a functional public health system. But neither candidate has any intention of spending any money on people’s health. That would cut into the 20% that health care brings to the Plutocrats and their Overseers’ wealth extraction schemes. The virus has killed 230,068 Americans to date. Twice the casualties of all the US wars since WWII. Death for profit with not one victory in 75 years.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle October 22 2020 #64715
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    The core problem in this pandemic is that masks and social distancing are supposed to replace universal testing and contact tracing in order to know who is infected and isolating them humanely while they shed the virus. Within months, the virus would be eradicate. At best a mask only mitigates some of the risk from interaction with others who are infected. Only public health and functional government are guaranteed to end the coronavirus pandemic. A for-profit vaccine could be Snake Eyes in the Big Casino next year. Due to ideology and greed, the West’s rulers are not going to fund public health or expand government service. Donald Trump is the perfect anti know-it-all. The White House is a super-spreader site. His opponent, a member of the dying Silent Generation just may become the first and last of his generation to be President. This no choice election has to be on purpose. The rich are getting richer.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle October 20 2020 #64633
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    The Bushes, Trumps and Kennedys are crime families. The Bidens, Clintons and Obamas are Managerial Technocrats who interact with Billionaire Families for profit.

    The 2020 election between Donald Trump and Joe Biden is not a choice. Western governments are now Potemkin Democracies. There is a direct link between dysfunctional governments and the number of coronavirus deaths. The USA is projected to have 400,000 excess deaths in 2020. There will be a similar number in 2021 if no vaccine or treatment is found.

    This is similar to US military casualties in WWII. America is at war with the virus. But the crime families simply don’t care how many people die or are ill for the long haul. They are getting richer. The clash between nationalist and globalist families to be the last Emperor will inevitably bring on civil war 2.0 and ruin; unless, democracy and the US national public health system are restored to support communities becoming virus free.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle October 19 2020 #64598
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    The basic problem in the West is that they couldn’t/wouldn’t close their national borders.

    The ruling class is addicted to money. Globalists believe in the free movement of people, money, goods and services. Nationalists are anti-science know-nothings. The virus survives because its transmission between humans is exponential without barriers, isolation of the infected, and borders sealed to stop it. Humans are smart enough to figure this out but are clueless when it costs the elite money to help the little people avoid getting sick.

    The Coronavirus Pandemic will spread and grow unless the West goes on a war footing. Over a million Americans are projected to die if a for-profit vaccine/treatment is not developed and the virus does not mutate to a less virulent form. The Pandemic is so wide spread the only way for the economy to recover is if the US national public health system is restored. Universal daily antigen testing is required. Negative tests necessary before going out in public. Schools, work places and social gatherings must form bubbles staffed with a public health officers who are in a chain of command and report up through the counties, States to the US Surgeon General. Scofflaws must be found and isolated. The infected safely housed and treated for free. The campaign will take several months but the virus would be eradicated and the economy returned to normal.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle October 15 2020 #64476
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    Ever since chemicals started self-replicating, utilizing solar and geo-thermal energy to keep going, there has been a push-pull with the external environment for the chemicals continue to exist and pass on their genetic material. Virus short-circuited the process. If virus causes the infected to snort, sneeze or cough it assists the transfer of the virus to an uninfected host by droplets (plus aerosols from COVID-19 super spreaders singing and talking loudly). Humans for the last couple of centuries have more or less figured this out. But it wasn’t until 1940 that a virus was seen with x-ray diffraction. Universal quick testing, bubbles, and public health tracing to catch the scofflaws prevents the transmission of the virus and eradicates it. China, Thailand, Vietnam, New Zealand (etc.) with functional governments controlled the virus. But the anti-science, anti-government, profit above lives, radicals in the West have let the virus run free. So much so that the White House became a super spreader site.

    If the ruling class does nothing while waiting for a for-profit vaccine, everyone is on their own to try to not get infected. If forced to go outside of home in the West, limit contact as much as possible. If unavoidable (when there is a risk to getting a sufficient viral load to get infected) it is prudent to wear face masks and gloves to reduce the risk. But this does not eliminate it. Think about helping others by limiting your spread of the virus.

    The US economy simply will not recover until the virus is controlled. Even if youngsters are asymptomatic, they shed the virus. The million or so older Americans who will die and the millions more ill for the long haul are collateral damage. Unfortunately, the globalist faction of the plutocrats is using the pandemic to try to get rid of the nationalist clan that now holds the White House. When oligarchs fight over control, chaos is not far away.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle October 10 2020 #64293
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    There is no doubt that 2020 is the nightmare election. The Ghost of George Wallace, Dick Nixon and Gorgeous George verses the Walking Dead Warmonger.

    Propaganda works. 90+% of Fox viewers agree that the US government is doing a great job combating COVID-19. 90+% Corporate Media viewers agree that the US government is doing a terrible job combating COVID-19. There is a small group of oligarchs supporting the Fox Candidate and a larger cabal of globalists and media moguls supporting the restoration of the rotating Emperor. The tragedy of today’s plague, climate change boosted hurricanes and firestorms, forever wars and an economic depression is that even worst things are sure to come as a result of the dysfunctional US federal government.

    The core problem is that neither political party has any intention doing anything that is in the best interest of Americans. Profits above all.

    in reply to: Only Trump Can Keep America Together #64242
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    Donald Trump is a pro-wrestling scene stealer (corrupt and incompetent); the Destroyer of the Western Empire. Joe Biden is a senile warmonger and is indeed a place keeper for the younger multi-nationals to take over and preserve the plutocratic caste.

    Around 60 million Americans are working at home. 30 million are getting unemployment. Towns along the Gulf Coast and in the West are being destroyed by climate change boosted hurricanes and wildfires. Wisconsin is the latest state with overwhelmed hospitals. As long as the pandemic spreads, the US economy cannot recover. The middle class is being decimated. Due to his illness and stupidity, a November reelection will be close and contested, assuring civil war 2.0. If Joe Biden wins fair and square, there is the faint hope that democracy can be restored and US government will defeat the pandemic and depression like America won in WWII 75 years ago.

    The fear, anxiety and chaos are too extreme now for the United States to survive for much longer unless the cause, rule by and for the oligarchs, is addressed.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle October 3 2020 #64042
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    The rich are different. With money and power, they make their own reality.

    The human tragedy is no matter how much one believes in one’s power and merit, the earth is finite and life always ends in death. Only by cooperation, education and planning, in the here and now, is a future possible.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle October 2 2020 #64019
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    I like Adam Curtis’s BBC productions. Yes, a new society is needed if there is to be a future. But the Reagan/Thatcher dream has turned into a nightmare of dysfunctional government as the rich steal from everyone else with no consequences.

    To be shown on BBC today Adam Curtis simply cannot tell the whole truth. And, Yes, you can tell the clip Mr. House posted was recorded before everything went south in 2020. I’ve lived through what seems a lot. Today is worse than the malaise of the 1970s; the Vietnam War defeat, civil rights, oil crises and fiat currency that brought on the plutocrats counter-revolt and the tearing down of the solar panels on the White House.

    I am for restoring the rule of law – government control over corporations and ending their profiting from death. But it will be the youngsters who jump in front of the mobs and who will just maybe save Homo sapiens from itself.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle October 1 2020 #63981
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    The Washington Post though the CDC published a graph of predicted and observed deaths in the USA from January 2017 through September 2020.
    https://palomaimages.washingtonpost.com/pr2/3f3b1cec6f438e6a013422d8833dd844-ScreenShot2020-10-01at3_tstmp_1601579392-914-384-70-8.jpg

    Deaths peak in each New Year at around 60,000 a week except higher in 2017 and 2018 and a noticeable surge this year in the second quarter due to COVID-19 when it peaked near 82,000. The swamping of NY State hospitals and 20,000 excess deaths a week was real although declining since then and almost back to predicted. There likely will be a third peak with schools reopening and winter coming. But this is a guess. Universal testing and public health bubbles have not been mandated for schools or work in the USA. As long as work at home continues for 61 million Americans, hospitals likely will not be overwhelmed. But the US economy will remain depressed, the virus will become endemic, and the unrest will continue. Super-spreader events need to be outlawed, universal daily antigen testing implemented, and public health personnel hired to maintain the bubbles and to contact trace and isolate spreaders.

    The future is very uncertain. Donald Trump will remain in the White House because he knows he won the November election. The Western Global Oligarchs have not given up on retaking Russia. NATO conducts war exercises in Poland. Globalist control of the White House will never permanently be given up. Corporate Oligarchs will also never voluntarily fund public health for Deplorables. Profit outweighs human life.

    Today reminds me of “The Deer Hunter”. A movie about war and the lost industrial America. Russian Roulette is the film’s metaphor for combat.

    This is what Americans are facing without a public health system and a functional national government. Losers do not need to become ill for the long haul or die.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle September 29 2020 #63913
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    I verify that the Colombo kid is exactly right. “If something good or bad happens to you it’ll be random and no one will care. If you’re unlucky you’re a statistic. If you’re lucky, no one notices you at all.”

    Later, in a mid-Atlantic American Legion bar I also got to be called a “Loser” to my face.

    “Collapse is just a series of ordinary days in between extraordinary bullshit, most of it happening to someone else.” This is the perfect description of going stir crazy in lockdown in a suburban home with a 9.6% chance of dying if infected. In WWII, the causality rate for US armed forces was 2.5%. The media, the politicians, the plutocracy, and the lackeys say that everything is normal. It is not. If not war, it is the next worse thing.

    in reply to: Vitamin D #63873
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    The value of taking Vitamin D needs to be spread around the world by word of mouth.

    The reason neoliberal nations have done so poorly in controlling coronavirus is due to the failure of their governments. For example, there is no national public health system in the USA. But most health workers try to do no harm even though healthcare in the USA is intentionally a money making scheme. Profits increase by monopolizing treatment (not curing the illness) and cutting costs. This is the primary reason for this disaster; along with incompetence. No one dares point out that the Western Overseer Class and Politicians are utterly corrupt. 50 trillion dollars was transferred from the U.S. Middle Class since 1980 to the 1%. Americans spend twice as much money on healthcare as the rest of the developed nations while at the same time the USA is leading the world in coronavirus deaths; 209,808. World Champion Chumps.

    in reply to: Incompetence “R” Us #63733
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    This is the best summary so far. The coronavirus pandemic is now an argument about science, ideology, economy and religion.

    In the West, the virus is endemic like HIV. Treatments will come available for people who can pay for it with their credit cards. Those who can’t will die if they are old or have a comorbidity. Cheap treatments will be passed around by word of mouth. Maybe there will even be a vaccine next year. It too will assist in the transfer of wealth from the working and middle classes to the 1% (50 trillion dollars, so far, since the 1980’s plutocratic takeover of the West).

    Let’s be crystal clear. China controlled the virus. Its economy is growing. It is not in a pandemic depression like the USA. China is not alone. Asian and South Pacific nations and Cuba have controlled the virus. They all have in common working governments and functional public health systems. In addition, the USA is suffering from riots, loss of jobs, hurricanes, firestorms, and toxic air.

    If government of the people by the people is restored, the USA with a national public health system could control the virus too. It is simple. Oligarchs do not want a working government that ends their exploitation of everyone else and the environment, raises their taxes, and regulates corporations. Donald Trump is part of the clan of nationalist oligarchs. He is quite willing to ignore science, pander to myths, and exploit human and natural resources to get richer. It is what he does. Joe Biden, on the other hand, is the best politician that Wall Street can buy.

    The Western Empire has fallen; except, unlike ancient Rome, the USA is armed with 3,000 nuclear weapons and if it splinters apart, climate change cannot be addressed. Coastal States will be swamped and Western Forests burnt down.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle September 21 2020 #63544
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    I am hampered by being a year younger than Joe Biden, politically incorrect, and raised in the USA in 1950s. The New York Times instead of 1619 should have crossed off 1932 and replaced it with 1981 the year when the oligarchs retook control of the US federal government away from the American people.

    In the chart of Economic decline verse Covid deaths; clustered with USA and Sweden with even worse economies are Chile, Italy, UK and Spain. All this is ignored by corporate media because they are nations with neoliberal free market governments that no longer serve their people. The highest death rate per million is Belgium which is without a government. Six of the nine worst nations are members of the EU. Why are India and Brazil with large populations and deaths second and third to the USA and especially China with the largest population in the world that has controlled the virus and its economy has rebounded been left off the chart? Likely to avoid indicating what deep pile of crap the USA is in right now. The two headed/one body political party is incapable of fixing it. In 2020, the Coronavirus pandemic, an economic depression, inequality, the endless wars, and climate change (Gulf Hurricanes and Western Firestorms that are killing people, destroying towns and widespread toxic air) are impacting all Americans all at the same time.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle September 20 2020 #63489
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    If there was an American public health system to coordinate messaging and direct research to save American lives, there would be no “mask rage”. Face masks decrease the number of cases of COVID-19 by protecting yourself and others from inhaling the virus and a mask avoids your hands transferring the virus to your mouth and nose.

    Research money should have been directed to find therapies that work against the coronavirus. Not to fund the pharmaceutical companies billions of dollars for a patentable vaccine that may or may not work next year. The death of 204,118 Americans is something. The pandemic, economic depression, hurricanes, toxic air, burned towns, and especially inequality (all of which the US government is unable to address) drives the rage. But, being human, our fears are projected onto others who are easily identified by skin color, masks, clothing, or location. Instead, the “greed is good” social pathology within oneself and tribe is ignored. This is the reason why corporate profits are more important than life itself in America.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle September 19 2020 #63437
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    Stephen Cohen was the last of the rational voices. Detente is dead. More troops and Bradley Fighting Vehicles sent to confront Russia in occupied Syria.

    War, Plague, Economic Depression, Firestorms are all tied together.

    As pointed out in the video, the point of virus testing is to determine if a person is infectiousness or not. If infectious, isolate them from the uninfected so the virus can’t be transmitted. Isolate all of the infectious persons, the epidemic ends. This basic point is ignored because the plutocracy has no interest in paying for a public health system.

    The Elite don’t care that Americans are dying. Lockdowns will be imposed if the local hospital system starts to be overwhelmed; otherwise, a thousand deaths a day in the USA is of no concern. Instead billions of dollars are given to the pharmaceutical industry for a vaccine that may or may not work next year. This lines their pockets.

    Climate change denial and not paying for forest and fire management are the direct cause of the destruction of five towns in Oregon. Again, the plutocracy will not voluntarily pay to mitigate this. Tax cuts and services privatization have destroyed democracy.

    Increasing inequality is the ultimate cause of the failure to alleviate nature and regulate corporations to ensure that humans survive.

    in reply to: Julian Assange and the Conservative Press #63202
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    What muddles the water is that the rulers and managers consistently try to hide the current organization of the economic and political world that does one thing – it makes them richer. This is Joe Biden’s world hegemony that has been in place since the Reagan Thatcher counter-revolt and the fall of the USSR. The Clintons, Bushes and Obamas all hug together. They, the media moguls and the intelligence community are all on the same team. It is the wealthy corporate superstructure built over third rate former democratic governments. But, since the disastrous handling of the Coronavirus Pandemic, the global Empire is no more. Americans are quarantined. Overseers cannot fly off and rule over their properties.

    The second older structure is the 1848 North American Empire since the Annexation of Texas, California, Arizona and New Mexico. This is what Donald Trump rules over very badly. All of the West Coast and the State of Oregon, in particular, is a disaster zone with over 100 days of riots, unprecedented town destroying infernos and a deadly pandemic.

    Joe Biden will try to restore the global empire and will fail. Donald Trump will continue to try to rule the 1848 Empire and will fail. Violence and Succession are inevitable.

    The only way out for Americans is the restoration of the 1787 Constitution, enforcing the rule of law for all, and the return of the unalienable right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle September 10 2020 #63110
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    James Mathis is an Imperialist. A Centurion naturally he is displeased with an incompetent blundering Emperor who isn’t up to the job. Donald Trump is well aware that Bob Woodward, who took down Richard Nixon, is still affiliated with Washington Post owned by Trump’s arch enemy, globalist, Jeff Bezos; and lives in Trump’s “dark shadows”. Any news is good news but allowing himself to be recorded is a simple, crazy, incompetent mistake. The US President is all alone, over his head, with only the Ivanka family to support him.

    To date 196,328 Americans have died from coronavirus. This is not an insignificant number, even though the ruling elite don’t give a damn. The simple fact, the USA is run to make money for the rich by hook or crook. The elite will not do anything that will hurt their pocketbooks. So, international travel was not halted. The dismantled national public health system was not rebuilt. The virus ran wild, worse, than Brazil or India. The lockdown, when imposed in March was sufficient to avoid overwhelming the nation’s for-profit healthcare system outside of New York State but not enough to control the virus. Four trillion dollars were given to corporations but Americans will just have to survive the best they can with one $1200 dollar check.

    Also not being addressed is climate change. Pestilence and over 100 days of rioting in Portland OR have been joined by the blazing Infernos. Born in raised and raised in Seattle WA, it is inconceivable to me that forest fires are raging across the West, killing people, filling the air with smoke, turning the sky orange, destroying subdivisions, and closing roads. Forest fires are burning east of Enumclaw WA, Salem OR, and down in Medford OR, all on the wet West side of the Cascades. On the other side of North America, Washington DC was hit by flash floods today.

    in reply to: Lockdown 2.0 #62950
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    A billion rapid tests, a billion doses of hydroxychloroquine (HCQ), a billion doses of zinc, a billion doses of Vitamin D, available ASAP, are so needed. Except, national and global oligarchs are risking a Civil War in the USA to prevent the control of the virus.

    Daily testing and self diagnosis gives power to the people. If tested and positive two or three days in a row, the infected will agree to isolate only if they have food and shelter, and if they get ill they must be treated. This requires a public health system and government by and for the people to mandate wearing and supplying N95 masks, forming bubbles at work and school, and catching the scofflaws. It means redistribution of wealth. This is why the oligarchs are willing to risk destroying a 123 trillion dollars’ worth of wealth by letting the virus run wild and not ending the associated economic depression that will impoverish 300 million Americans and which will surely cause a revolution in a nation armed with 3000 nuclear weapons.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle September 4 2020 #62897
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    If there is anything that makes humans special, it is our ability to laugh at tragedy.

    20:20 is the year the chickens came home to roost. Donald Trump is such a transactional, money magnet, dyed in the wool, neoliberal oligarch, that I believe he said to a father of a fallen soldier at his grave site that they all are losers. How apt an eulogy for the fallen corporate led Western Empire that had no heart, no love, no community.

    Only the restoration of government by and for the people can save the USA from breaking apart.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle September 3 2020 #62874
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    The antigen testing promo shows an alternative way to controlling the coronavirus pandemic this year – no waiting till next year for a for-profit vaccine that may not work.

    The core difficulty is that it places testing and response onto the “untouchables”. The Brahmin upper class would no longer have control over testing, diagnosis and wealth extraction. Secondary, to work, daily antigen testing needs a national public health system to develop school and work bubbles, treat those who test positive for free, and catch the scofflaws.

    Yes, this will cost lots of money that the ruling class does not want to spend, but it is less than lost already in the Pandemic Depression. Also, controlling the coronavirus pandemic requires restoring democracy and the rule of law. Altogether, this will end the unrest and save the 123 trillion dollars that would be lost in a cataclysmic second American Civil War with nuclear weapons.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle September 1 2020 #62805
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    ZeroHedge: “In Unprecedented Move, CDC Halts Most Rental Evictions Until End Of 2020”.

    This highlights the failure of the US federal government, to date, to control the coronavirus pandemic and the economic depression. The three shooting deaths involving private militias (right and left) is the edge of the cliff. If tens of millions of Americans are evicted from their homes just before winter, the free fall of America into chaos is certain.

    Neither political party promise to restore the public health system which is required to fight the pandemic but instead will continue wealth extraction with the ineffective for-profit system. Likewise, until Americans have money in the pockets and can go out in public freely, the US economy will not recover. If hope, life, democracy and the rule of law are not restored in the next year, a descent into chaos is assured. If the ruling class, in an effort to keep their wealth, resort to surveillance, disappearing, torture and sexual abuse of Americans, the States will break apart.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle August 30 2020 #62745
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    Democrats are paid not to get it. The current unrest will continue as long as the coronavirus pandemic spreads unchecked and the US economy is in a depression. Rioting will only increase because Donald Trump needs it to remain in the White House. Warfare could be weeks away.

    The Pandemic can be controlled this year in the USA with daily paper antigen test before leaving home. However, it needs buy-in by Americans and a public health system to get free treatment if test positive and to catch the scofflaws. Democrats can’t and won’t replace the ineffective for-profit healthcare system. Instead they are intent on restoring the Last Emperor of the fallen Western Empire. The economic depression won’t end until Americans have money and it is safe to go out in public.

    The sole purpose of both current American political parties is to increase the profits for the wealthy no matter how many American lives are lost. The US federal government has failed.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle August 29 2020 #62721
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    Kenosha WI is a rust belt city of 100,000 people, 80% white, which use to manufacture AMC and then Chrysler automobiles. Today, the largest employer is Snap-on Tools with around 750 full time employees. Jobs that supported families are mostly gone. Last year, there were 30 overdose deaths. Blacks are a minority at 11.5%.

    The US flyover Rust Belt was the intentional result of offshoring and globalization. It made the wealthy on both coasts of America richer. Corporate media plays up the racial tensions to divert attention from the real causes, inequality and injustice. This is the classical divide and conquer Empire tactics. Right now two Brahmin Clans (globalists and nationalists) are fighting for control of the remnants of the fallen Western Empire.

    What is frightening is an authoritarian Republican incompetent incumbent and his followers are using this unrest (that they incite) to keep control. Ruling class Democrats won’t restore the public health system or give jobs to the unemployed to end the Pandemic Depression and deescalate the tensions. Instead chaos is sure to increase. Gangs will seize and barricading their home turf to prevent retaliation. Warfare is next.

    Neither ruling caste gives a damn about the American lives lost, all that matters is that they are making money, hands over fist.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle August 28 2020 #62685
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    2020 is the ultimate “there is no alternative” election. 61 million Americans no longer commute to work. $600 dollars a week for the unemployed ended weeks ago. Evictions are starting. 185,901 Americans have died, to date, from coronavirus.

    Donald Trump is right. Democrats are responsible. But the majority party that holds the White House and Senate is even more responsible. Denial of the Pandemic Depression by the elite’s lackeys won’t work. If there is another no change election, unrest will continue swell unchecked across the USA.

    Having spent almost three years, half a century ago, in the US Army and a year in a war zone, seeing the police coddle up to armed kids who don’t know crap is terrifying. Sooner or later, unless Democracy is restored, the out of work gangs of purposeless boys will find their fellow mates, learn to barricade, direct fire, and conduct ambushes. Hell will break loose.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle August 25 2020 #62571
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    The lack of hindsight is another sign of the collapse of civilization. Nancy Pelosi can call others enemies of the state but she is as much of one as the Clinton or Bush families. All became enemies of good government once the Western “free trade” Empire was placed above of the best interests of the American people. They still deny the existence of the Pandemic Depression; let alone, the fall of the Free World. The differences between the Democrats and Donald Trump come down to he has yet to start a war, he is really accelerating deregulation and privatization (the Post Office), and added China to the Cold War 2.0 with Russia that Joe Biden started.

    But the revisionist history of the lockdown is ludicrous. They dismiss reality.

    1) To have avoided the 182,348 American deaths to date, all international flights into the USA and ports would have to have been closed and sealed in January 2020. Simply impossible for the rulers of the Western Empire to do.

    2) There would have to have been an American public health system to test, trace and isolate the infected like in South Korea and New Zealand. Six months later there is still not one. The reason is that absolutely no money is to be mooched by the connected with a government run healthcare system. A conscious decision was made to wait for a for-profit vaccine or treatment next year. The hundreds of thousands of coronavirus deaths are collateral damage and of no concern to the ruling class as long has the hospitals are profitable and they can get treated if needed.

    3) The lockdowns were imposed because the hospital systems in Italy and New York State were overrun by the ill. Texas was at the breaking point, but cornavirus treatment appears to have evolved to keep the system running. The healthcare Industry (20% of the US economy) has one prime objective – to make more money. If anyone is cured it is due to the workers in the system.

    in reply to: A Society of Emasculated Liars #62534
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    We all have templates, imprints, that trigger emotions and provide explanations and behaviors that allow the individual to survive and pass on its DNA onto the next generation. Humans evolved speech, controlled fire, and developed teaching, society, so that knowledge of the past does not have to rediscovered with each new generation. Except it seems to be human nature to have to relearn it all over, again and again. But what has thrown a monkey wrench into the whole endeavor to habituate the earth is that in the last forty years an ideology of greed that says that society does not exist triumphed. Democratic government has been so whittled down and corrupted, it cannot do anything anymore. The Pandemic Depression and the Fall of the Free World is the result. If one has a problem with Dr. D, it is that his template does not work. Our cognitive dissonance is generated by our desire to survive and somehow get a system that works for humans on earth that does not exterminate us, like bacteria in a petri dish. A fresh start would be restoration of democracy and rebuilding a national public health system in the USA.

    in reply to: Do the Dems Want To Win? #62344
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    The global USA Empire has fallen. The “ancien regime” in its arrogance and incompetence dare not notice. There cannot be an alternative. If there was one, no more trillions of dollars of bailouts for Wall Street. The NY Stock market would crash down to its actual value. Americans would get free healthcare. The national public health service would control the coronavirus pandemic. Food would be provided for the needy. The homeless would have shelter. Taxes would rise. Corporations would be regulated for the public good. The economy would recover once Americans feel safe to go out in public.

    However, no matter how much better life would be with the end of inequality, the top 10% simply cannot let their continual rising wealth stop; damn the consequences.

    Democrats are doing what their big donors tell them to do. Racism, Russia and Donald Trump are their scapegoats for the failures of the former people’s party. In the second decade of the 21st century instead of a New Deal, a new feudal Dark Age is rising in North America.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle August 18 2020 #62292
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    The trillions of dollars of the listed twelve oligarchs pretty much run America. Besides the Walton family, most of the rest are intimately involved with DARPA’s Internet that Al Gore took credit for. One, Jeff Bezos, is in a cold war with Donald Trump. The two clans of plutocrats, globalists and nationalists, stomping around, positioning themselves, delayed my mail for the last two weeks. I depend on USPS for delivery of my medicine and paying my bills.

    All twelve, deep in their hearts, deny that outsourcing, cutting taxes, plus deregulation have anything to do with the collapse of government and their rapidly increasing wealth.

    When I retired almost nine years ago all the cubicles where I worked were full of people. Now it is so decimated, the few remaining are moving back to DC when the Office reopens, shortly, despite the COVID-19 pandemic. Donald Trump is a disaster. The Free World is finished. US troops bring the coronavirus contagion with them.

    At least in Maryland, I can vote for the Green Party without the conundrum of being forced to vote for Joe Biden. If Donald Trump wins, there will be a million families with dead grandparents, fathers and mothers, even children. Tens of millions will be without a job or income. There will be critical shortages (California is already having rolling blackouts). Chaos is assured. Globalists and the lackey intelligence operatives will initiate a color revolt.

    On the other hand, if Joe Biden is elected, in January 2021, there will be no change. The federal government will be unable to end the pandemic unless, the jackpot vaccine really works. The unrest and the economic depression will continue. Even with a safe and effective vaccine it will be year or two before everyone feels safe to go out in public and revive the service and air travel industries.

    Without a working vaccine or treatment, it will be 1932, all over again, except without a FDR – a new dark age.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle August 13 2020 #62124
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    The pandemic, the election, the future in the USA all come down to money. “It’s All About the Benjamins Baby.” The last 40 years all growth has gone to the wealthy. But the Wuhan coronavirus has slammed the world and especially the service/travel industry, 80% of the US economy. Waiting for a pharmaceutical industry for-profit vaccine instead of implementing a working national public health system will kill a projected 300,000 Americans this year. Despite the Pandemic Depression, Democrats chose to run on the last decade’s status quo. Attack Donald Trump. Ignore economic inequality. And, ignore declining resources and incompetence.

    Donald Trump is the radical. He will destroy the US Post Office to avoid mail-in voting. He will win or lose the 2020 election but either way he is likely to start a revolt.

    The ruling class is assiduously avoiding reality, but it will bite them in the butt. Truths (no meaningful Russian interference in the 2016 election, some well know members of the Elite are pedophiles, and the western intelligence community tried to remove Donald Trump) are now treasonous conspiracy theories according to PBS NewsHour.

    in reply to: A Social Experiment #62012
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    This is all true in spades. But, the overwhelming fact is that both political parties are complicit in the colossal failure to protect and serve the American people. Donald Trump is a disaster. Joe Biden is a disaster. The incompetence and corruption cannot be unintentional. They are paid to put corporation profits over public health and safety.

    Emma and James Galbraith; “This breakdown can be repaired only by dramatic, radical public action, mobilizing the whole population—effectively, for the duration—as a matter of survival, such as seen on only three occasions in US history: in 1861, at the start of the Civil War; in 1933, at the launch of the New Deal; and in 1941, at the start of World War II.” Until the coronavirus is contained, the Pandemic Depression will continue unabated. The US Stock Market is in fantasy land injected with digital dollars by the FED.

    The only thing left is rebuilding the national public health system, daily testing and containing the virus. If not, America will splinter apart. Last night bridges were raised to protect the Chicago Loop from armed looters.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle August 8 2020 #61941
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    Almost 77, I have to avoid a coronavirus infection at all costs. The prospect of endless sheltering at home is horrid. A twice monthly drive around the county to keep the car running doesn’t help. Sooner or later I will need to go to the doctor or dentist. My periodontist and dental hygienist have retired. I’ve caught Trump Derangement Syndrome (TDS) but I also have Democrat Derangement Syndrome (DDS). The failure of the US federal government is threatening my sanity and pension.

    What makes it worse is that I know that there is way to end the pandemic this year. Antigen testing:

    Even the WaPo agrees; “Absent presidential leadership, 7 governors start to put the nation back on track”. If the FDA approves cheap quick antigen paper tests for home use before students and workers go out, and staying home if positive, plus contact tracing; the pandemic will be halted.

    The fact that this is ignored makes it sure that 300,000 American deaths this year are due to the Elite’s decision to give billions to the pharmaceutical industry for a for-profit vaccine or treatment next year, if developed. The deaths are unimportant to them. But, by then it will be too late, the virus will have spread everywhere to enough people that it will never go away. The economy cannot recover unless the pandemic ends and people are free to shop and work. If no change, the Americas will be filled with sick, poor, broken apart, failed states like Lebanon.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle August 3 2020 #61786
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    The talk of FED giving digital dollars via an app to individuals is one of those puff pieces thrown in the air to give the people the false feeling that they have power. Nobody is getting the $600 dollar a week extra unemployment payment since last Friday. Republicans want to force Americans to go back to work and risk infection. The rich will never voluntarily allow the little people to get out of being under their thumbs.

    My county with the most coronavirus infections in Maryland, just sent out by e-mail this factoid; “No gathering is truly low-risk. Recent contact tracing interviews revealed the following top activities: 44% Family gatherings 23% House parties 21% outdoor events.” These percentages skewed because the county is mostly bedroom communities with no state prisons or meatpacking plants; working at home. But still, there is no away around it. To stay virus free, avoid other people. If you must go out for survival or to prevent family banishment, always wear a mask and keep as distant as possible to lower the risks.

    If no safe and effective for-profit vaccine or treatment is developed by next year, the USA is rushing towards a million deaths and even more survivors with comorbidities. The other alternatives are 1) a 6 to 8-week complete/effective lockdown or 2) a national public health system of daily fast cheap antigen tests done at home, testing negative before going out, contact tracing, and safe secure quarantine facilities.

    Isolated at home, waiting for 6” of tropical rain tomorrow, I sense that the USA is falling apart.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle August 2 2020 #61748
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    Barrack Obama is partially correct. The Right Wing listens to Russ Limbaugh. The Professional Managerial Class watches CNN. There is no media for the people. Yes, the election could be close. Yes, there is fear and anxiety. For good reason. Houston, Phoenix, Miami, Phoenix, Fresno ICUs are at capacity. “Eleven states reported record highs in current hospitalizations”. What is omitted is that the media and the federal government are owned by corporations. There really is no alternative in the 2020 election. The harsh fact is that a national public health response based on daily testing was discarded months ago with no dissent. If there is no safe and effective vaccine or treatment to earn billions for pharmaceutical industry, Americans will be in dire straits next year. The economy cannot recovery until Americans no longer fear the contagion.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle August 1 2020 #61710
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    With old age, anxiety and insomnia, it is clear I am not what I think I am. I can only try to be what I want to be, a decent person. But at 76 almost 77, I still haven’t learned to live with my emotions.

    Donald Trump went from World Wrestling Entertainment (WWE) to the White House because he is a follower of the Power of Positive Thinking. “Willing himself to success”. With the pandemic and the intelligence community incompetent attempts to get him gone, he was gotten himself into a position where his beliefs and magical thinking are counter to reality.

    The U.S. Federal Government has failed. They all must deny it to justify themselves. The CDC report that 260 children got infected with coronavirus at a Northern Georgia Y summer camp has no mention follow up with the families. No discussion of the risks.

    Based on the Princess Diamond and USS Theodore Roosevelt, none of the kids was hospitalized but their families got infected too. A parent or two may have been hospitalized and are now in debt for the rest of their lives if they aren’t already. If the child was in a multi-generational household, the elderly have around a 10% chance of dying. Reopening schools with just masks and disinfectant theater will fail. More hotspots will popup.

    The only thing that will work is daily testing with cheap quick paper antigen testing and 14-day isolation of those that test positive. The schools must be organized in pods of around 8 so if one becomes infected the rest can be quarantined too. This will work with essential workers, convicts and nursing home residents too. It is malevolent that the White House is protected by antigen tests but nobody else is. The US failure to have national testing and public health system in order that the pharmaceutical industry next year will earn billions from a for-profit vaccine is so deadly and evil that it must be intentional and is covered up by omission and denial.

    in reply to: What? Default? Where? Dollar? #61515
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    So far, as long as you have dollars and are prudent, you will survive the pandemic. But the Mandate of Heaven has been withdrawn from the West.

    Both the Euro and the US dollar have problems. A significant amount of goods sold in these blocs are manufactured in China. The Obama Administration restarted the Cold War with Russia. The Trump Administration is desperately trying to start a Cold War where Tim Cook makes his iPhones. Boeing is dead in the water if it can’t sell airliners to China. Intel is on the brink of having to outsource its production to Asia since it has not been able to manufacture chips below 14nm. No wonder the globalists want Donald Trump gone. Yet, this is best case speculation. If the USA does not control the coronavirus pandemic the future will be even worse. China will lose a lot of its markets but it still can import raw commodities and make things people need and is fighting the virus successfully.

    Besides the loss of industry, the dollar has two other problems. First, the federal government has failed. The coronavirus is killing essential workers. The Elite have bet everything on a vaccine next year. There is no national public health programs in place to test, trace or isolate the infected which would allow reopening of schools and workplaces now or next year in case there is no vaccine for the coronavirus like HIV or the common cold.

    Second, the unrest will continue. A 90% 20-year-old today in the American Pacific Northwest has no chance of getting a good paying job that would support a family like their Great Grandparents had. A long time ago I had to drive cross country to get a low-rung technocrat’s job with the extra points given for being a Veteran. Today the kids are stuck in the basement, drugged to keep calm. The largest business in Oregon is Nike. The financiers and designers are in the States but all of the shoes are made overseas. The protesters have nothing to lose and a nation to gain.

    Money is a reflection of good government, resources, skills and labor. The US dollar has lost most of its support. The trillions of digital dollars transferred to the wealthy are dependent on Eastern Seaboard’s electricity staying turned on.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle July 25 2020 #61484
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    Fiona Hill and Dr. Anthony Fauci are what you get when there is an Empire to govern and the Mandarins forget that they are subject to the Mandate of Heaven and that they need the consent of the governed. The heavens spoke. The Western Empire is dead. The USA, India and Brazil will suffer not just illness but isolation, depression and unrest. Their governments failed. Deadly inequality is exploding. Soon, when the US dollar is no longer the world’s currency, no longer the exceptional nation, western wealth will vanish trying to leave the quarantine zone. Not unlike a century ago after the Bolshevik’s revolution, White Russian Emigres trying to survive in China.

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