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  • in reply to: Debt Rattle December 1 2021 #94125
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    This just seen on RT:
    Gold medalist athlete, 24, dies 2 weeks after contracting Covid — RT Sport News

    https://www.rt.com/sport/541835-bizu-borislav-canoe-ukraine-death-covid/

    in reply to: Debt Rattle November 27 2021 #93771
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    Too late for yesterday’s Debt Rattle.

    Youngsters have been having heart problems on the pitch well before this virus and its untested experimental goop showed up. Some of the times the collapse on the pitch happens is due to an undiagnosed Atrial Fibrillation that may have many causes. The French have a saying that one digs their grave with their teeth; curiously enough, autopsies have indicated in genetic assays that carries protein has been present in the heart, possibly involved in the fatal incident. Some folk wisdom the French have. Even before the SARS C-virus, it would have been advisable to have a defibrillator that could be connected to a local hospital and controlled by phone and special training given to the coach or staff who would be present at all or most of practices or matches; this is even more urgently needed now in all sporting activities everywhere.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle November 23 2021 #93308
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    V. Arnold at # 93303
    Had I omitted Dr D from mention concerning bandwidth an accusation of discrimination could be leveled, no defensible reply could be made. I use the D(uh) as a relic of my first impression of the Dr’s early essays those many years ago, when reading one would come across some assertion, either narrowly or excessively broadly drawn that was arguable and reading would halt at that point, the greater fraction of the piece unread. However, over the years, practice has tended to smooth those obstacles slightly. Recently the good Dr produced a short essay that was concise, focused AND coherent, drawing a posted comment from me (IISRC). Your milage obviously differs but I can live with that.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle November 23 2021 #93300
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    R.I.M.
    It is nice to see Boscohorowitz, Triviality4eva, Dr D(uh), Phoenixvoice and several other interminable wannabe essayists and other serial commentators share their bandwidth with you for your offerings. (/sarcasm)

    Starting to look like the splitting point where the species become separated into two (or more) incompatible species: the vaxxed; the unvaccinated; the trans-vaxxed (yet to be determined).

    in reply to: Debt Rattle November 20 2021 #93051
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    RT reports AI has created 9 million new designer drugs:
    https://www.rt.com/news/540845-ai-predicts-designer-drugs/
    Just where are they going to find 9 million hippies t test them on?

    in reply to: Debt Rattle October 21 2021 #90505
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    zerosum at # 90499 DR 20 October 2021

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    ‘What might be done?’
    Excellent expose of our social/economic system
    When we have left this existence who will know, and be able to pass on this knowledge

    Clue: there used to be a Celsius 233 on these pages. Recall how knowledge and literature were preserved in the original book.Secondly, establish groups to explore and discuss history, literature, knowledge, science, medicine and law, biographies and autobiographies of the distinguished are important as well. Share knowledge, experience by discussing with others, help ignite their curiosity. From my experience, anecdotally, I had found three books in an abandoned house, the histories of Egypt, Greece and Rome. I recall the names; West and Meyer belonging to two of those books. By the time I began the fourth grade I had read them all; all were university level text books I discovered later. They ignited my interest in history and later economics and other social sciences. Make sure some autodidact may come across whatever trove you might put together – your best hope for the future. Does this answer your question a little?

    in reply to: Debt Rattle October 21 2021 #90501
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    Per request:

    In Venice between the Doges Palace and the prison behind it is a bridge over a small canal, the Bridge of Sighs which has written over the Palace entrance the advice “Abandon hope all ye who enter here” such was justice then. Not much has changed since, the world is a much larger and more populated place than it was then, but the advice still holds well in another empire finding itself past the premonition of collapse.

    The political arts in that empire have developed means and methods to acutely divide the citizenship to the point that minor, statistically invisible manipulations can determine election results by application of enormous sums to assure bipartisan tribalism so intense that political civility no longer exists, indeed the ability of political communication has become impossible. Fierce shoals for the good ship ‘Republic’ to founder on; all passengers, crew and treasure lost, a howling gale rendering sails into shreds, the captain’s voice unheard through a dementia of fear.

    A virus has rent the body politic irreversibly, a Rubicon has been crossed, no reversion is possible, a costly sacrifice has been burnt on the public high alter, the self appointed priests searching the entrails for guidance find no entrails to read but report imagined dooms to the fearful public, order obsequious obedience ingesting concocted palliatives to assure protection through magic invisible invincibility cloaks courteously the public purse, but one must completely believe in the magic for it to work. Seems P.T. Barnum underestimated the rate of birth for suckers.

    Assumptions taken that this time will not be different, that things will reset into conditions status quo ante are , as bending the popular phrase has it – NOT ‘highly likely’. Emotions and hurts are too deep and too deeply felt for facile rapprochement, enmities built will be hard to retract. Those excluded will not likely be welcomed back to former positions, Skills atrophy through disemployment; the higher the skill set the shorter the period needed for atrophy to occur, particularly in quickly evolving industries or high knowledge level required services. Once, when times were more stable, it would have been unthinkable for any government to tax gardens as a source of income, rebellion would certainly ensue. Given the state of the State, taxing gardens will happen because the State has the power to do so, and will do so. What then?

    As finance has developed the creation and control of revenue streams as their objective, that model will work for governments as well. The 1776 revolution was exactly built upon the fact that the power to tax was the power to destroy. That has not changed in the intervening period; only the subject being taxed has and the effect is a noticeable inequality in retained wealth – notice those who are being destroyed are congruous to who are bearing the tax burden.

    Most of the population is involved with procreation and raising the results thereof, little time is available for other pursuits outside of providing for a family’s needs, wants and desires, mostly through some form of labour. A few will have at their disposal some sort of estate devoted to some form of economic production such as farming, small business enterprises, working investments, professional services; all small scale. The industrialisation created large efficient economic entities, the nature necessitated, resulted in few controlling an industry – monopoly, or a few controlling the output of an industry – monopsony having the resources needed for large scale purchases (such as grain companies). Once finance companies serviced large industrial production benefitting all parties, but finance found greater profit in controlling production to obtain the revenue streams generated, and now look to create those revenue streams through innovative servicing, credit cards being an early example that drained revenue from banks. Finance companies had grown from a historical ~4% of the economy to over 40% of economic activity, obtaining everything not nailed down by prior possession of the economic privileged. This process was marked by centralisation of economic activities to fewer and fewer firms that grew in economic power, often exercised in the destruction of labour and the government that provided an equitable field for all parties. Once that was achieved, finance began an assault on government, first by usurping control of law enforcement, suborning the courts, and controlling regulatory authority. Having accomplished this, the legislative branch was neutered, and the executive branch was bought. Little remains of constitutional governmental power, little effective remains of the constitution itself, and the Republic has become a convenient myth clothed in democracy’s wardrobe, all brought to you curtesy of your friendly local ‘Law and Order’ folks and your sterling ‘Moral Majority’ who breached the separation of belief and State bulwarks to give the nations treasury to the most perfidious assortment of scoundrels and near-do-wells ever assembled. If you dream of displacing them peaceably at this stage, you need get some professional help. All institutions that once created and effected FDR’s ‘New Deal’ have beed suborned, bought, displaced or duplicated out of the revenue streams finance has created and finance is not going to give up their good thing for anyone.they cannot buy off – get yourself some other delusion.

    ‘What might be done?’ some will ask. The answer is multi-part: Withdraw consent, support; resist by word and deed; contest with fact and considered opinion; fight through non-violence, assertion, non-compliance and defence of historical prerogatives using every forum, streets, political forums, courts and every place that if nothing else puts sand into the machinery, plans and policies of the would be authoritarians. If not you – WHO?

    in reply to: Debt Rattle October 20 2021 #90469
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    In Venice between the Doges Palace and the prison behind it is a bridge over a small canal, the Bridge of Sighs which has written over the Palace entrance the advice “Abandon hope all ye who enter here” such was justice then. Not much has changed since, the world is a much larger and more populated place than it was then, but the advice still holds well in another empire finding itself past the premonition of collapse.

    The political arts in that empire have developed means and methods to acutely divide the citizenship to the point that minor, statistically invisible manipulations can determine election results by application of enormous sums to assure bipartisan tribalism so intense that political civility no longer exists, indeed the ability of political communication has become impossible. Fierce shoals for the good ship ‘Republic’ to founder on; all passengers, crew and treasure lost, a howling gale rendering sails into shreds, the captain’s voice unheard through a dementia of fear.

    A virus has rent the body politic irreversibly, a Rubicon has been crossed, no reversion is possible, a costly sacrifice has been burnt on the public high alter, the self appointed priests searching the entrails for guidance find no entrails to read but report imagined dooms to the fearful public, order obsequious obedience ingesting concocted palliatives to assure protection through magic invisible invincibility cloaks courteously the public purse, but one must completely believe in the magic for it to work. Seems P.T. Barnum underestimated the rate of birth for suckers.

    Assumptions taken that this time will not be different, that things will reset into conditions status quo ante are , as bending the popular phrase has it – NOT ‘highly likely’. Emotions and hurts are too deep and too deeply felt for facile rapprochement, enmities built will be hard to retract. Those excluded will not likely be welcomed back to former positions, Skills atrophy through disemployment; the higher the skill set the shorter the period needed for atrophy to occur, particularly in quickly evolving industries or high knowledge level required services. Once, when times were more stable, it would have been unthinkable for any government to tax gardens as a source of income, rebellion would certainly ensue. Given the state of the State, taxing gardens will happen because the State has the power to do so, and will do so. What then?

    As finance has developed the creation and control of revenue streams as their objective, that model will work for governments as well. The 1776 revolution was exactly built upon the fact that the power to tax was the power to destroy. That has not changed in the intervening period; only the subject being taxed has and the effect is a noticeable inequality in retained wealth – notice those who are being destroyed are congruous to who are bearing the tax burden.

    Most of the population is involved with procreation and raising the results thereof, little time is available for other pursuits outside of providing for a family’s needs, wants and desires, mostly through some form of labour. A few will have at their disposal some sort of estate devoted to some form of economic production such as farming, small business enterprises, working investments, professional services; all small scale. The industrialisation created large efficient economic entities, the nature necessitated, resulted in few controlling an industry – monopoly, or a few controlling the output of an industry – monopsony having the resources needed for large scale purchases (such as grain companies). Once finance companies serviced large industrial production benefitting all parties, but finance found greater profit in controlling production to obtain the revenue streams generated, and now look to create those revenue streams through innovative servicing, credit cards being an early example that drained revenue from banks. Finance companies had grown from a historical ~4% of the economy to over 40% of economic activity, obtaining everything not nailed down by prior possession of the economic privileged. This process was marked by centralisation of economic activities to fewer and fewer firms that grew in economic power, often exercised in the destruction of labour and the government that provided an equitable field for all parties. Once that was achieved, finance began an assault on government, first by usurping control of law enforcement, suborning the courts, and controlling regulatory authority. Having accomplished this, the legislative branch was neutered, and the executive branch was bought. Little remains of constitutional governmental power, little effective remains of the constitution itself, and the Republic has become a convenient myth clothed in democracy’s wardrobe, all brought to you curtesy of your friendly local ‘Law and Order’ folks and your sterling ‘Moral Majority’ who breached the separation of belief and State bulwarks to give the nations treasury to the most perfidious assortment of scoundrels and near-do-wells ever assembled. If you dream of displacing them peaceably at this stage, you need get some professional help. All institutions that once created and effected FDR’s ‘New Deal’ have beed suborned, bought, displaced or duplicated out of the revenue streams finance has created and finance is not going to give up their good thing for anyone.they cannot buy off – get yourself some other delusion.

    ‘What might be done?’ some will ask. The answer is multi-part: Withdraw consent, support; resist by word and deed; contest with fact and considered opinion; fight through non-violence, assertion, non-compliance and defence of historical prerogatives using every forum, streets, political forums, courts and every place that if nothing else puts sand into the machinery, plans and policies of the would be authoritarians. If not you – WHO?

    in reply to: Debt Rattle October 15 2021 #90087
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    Dr D at # 90049
    Superb essay; concise, focused, to the point. Nicely done.
    It does occur that you are giving the recently re-emerged SS_Triviality4EVA full credit for thinking up the malarky they present all by their very own. This cut and paste artist, for that is all they are, can only curate what others produce and does so without regard to the actuality of the subject to reality. This one has unlikely ever encountered a conspiracy theory they have not liked, and is always eager to share with all who will give them the time of day. Easy, don’t give their likes the time of day or even a glance; flyover territory for certain.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle October 14 2021 #89979
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    my parents said know at # 89976
    Simon Schama’s “The Embarrassment of Riches, An Interpretation of Dutch Culture in the Golden Age“, ISBN 0-394-51075-5 may reveal that answer in affirmative. Worth reading anyway; most Dutch wealth has its genesis from that period and still maintains its possession while realising the flowering of the renouned visual arts and artists. The Rijksmuseum has a fabulous world class collection.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle October 13 2021 #89914
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    Oops! that was Veracious Poet; must be a fraudian slip.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle October 13 2021 #89913
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    My Parents said know at # 89871,
    Thanks for the mention. Knowing that, the effort became a worthwhile investment in time.

    Vicious Poet at # 89896,
    I see you have bought into psychobabble hook, line and sinker and now would feck up a wet-dream.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle October 13 2021 #89862
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    Bringing this forward from DR 12 Oct 2021

    Oxymoron at # 89844 has an interesting POV that parallels the development of the species. Early on in that process the child encounters the magic and power of the word ‘NO’ and embarks on a voyage of discovery on how to use and to manipulate that simplest of words; also known as the ‘terrible twos’, who hasn’t been in a checkout line and witnessed some episode where a toddler encounters mom’s ‘no bomb’ and counters with tantrum, which works until it doesn’t (at that point the age of negotiation begins on the child’s journey to becoming an adult). On that journey, something has become amiss in the process of socialisation and those lessons are apparently forgotten, the power and magic of NO! Silence is not a response when a NO! is needed to some demand, nor is begrudging submission to authority when a stiff, resolute reply is actually required, coupled with a challenge to the basis of that authority to make such demands. Often this requires that retort be issued in a forum that speaks the language of the authoritarians – a court of law, that for some moments will have the authoritarians attention. This needs to happen universally until a leash is installed upon those wayward authoritarians and some manners put on their remits, otherwise they will continue unrestrained as is their nature.

    Maybe it was the increasing urban size that produced larger groups in the schools that allowed some group of ‘kool kids’ to precipitate out into a social elite but without the ability to experience the responsibilities of governance that may lay root to the failures of all elites to responsibly govern. Elites have always occupied positions of authority, a key to the success of the species but they always were firmly embedded within the population they ruled. Nowadays the chasm between the governors and governed is beyond bridging and the consequences are becoming apparent to wider awareness. This trajectory will end poorly; nothing in the experience of the species supports such conditions. Much if not all excesses could have been thwarted by a well placed NO!

    Blather away about morality, beliefs, and cosmic conscience to our hearts content but it remains blather. The species developed a bicameral central nervous system that has two methods of conduct; one emotional, ephemeral, quickly reacting, the other rational, slower but sounder, evidence or factually driven. Both are needed but in balance. Achieving that balance was once what becoming an adult measured. This no longer applies for any organisation outside the size of tribal organisation. It has become necessary to revisit those qualities that made the tribe a successful organisation and then trace those qualities through the increasing social organisations and see how those qualities developed or changed. This will be an interesting journey of discovery and may possibly contain some answers to the questions now facing the species. Bon voyage!

    in reply to: Debt Rattle October 12 2021 #89859
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    Oxymoron at # 89844 has an interesting POV that parallels the development of the species. Early on in that process the child encounters the magic and power of the word ‘NO’ and embarks on a voyage of discovery on how to use and to manipulate that simplest of words; also known as the ‘terrible twos’, who hasn’t been in a checkout line and witnessed some episode where a toddler encounters mom’s ‘no bomb’ and counters with tantrum, which works until it doesn’t (at that point the age of negotiation begins on the child’s journey to becoming an adult). On that journey, something has become amiss in the process of socialisation and those lessons are apparently forgotten, the power and magic of NO! Silence is not a response when a NO! is needed to some demand, nor is begrudging submission to authority when a stiff, resolute reply is actually required, coupled with a challenge to the basis of that authority to make such demands. Often this requires that retort be issued in a forum that speaks the language of the authoritarians – a court of law, that for some moments will have the authoritarians attention. This needs to happen universally until a leash is installed upon those wayward authoritarians and some manners put on their remits, otherwise they will continue unrestrained as is their nature.

    Maybe it was the increasing urban size that produced larger groups in the schools that allowed some group of ‘kool kids’ to precipitate out into a social elite but without the ability to experience the responsibilities of governance that may lay root to the failures of all elites to responsibly govern. Elites have always occupied positions of authority, a key to the success of the species but they always were firmly embedded within the population they ruled. Nowadays the chasm between the governors and governed is beyond bridging and the consequences are becoming apparent to wider awareness. This trajectory will end poorly; nothing in the experience of the species supports such conditions. Much if not all excesses could have been thwarted by a well placed NO!

    Blather away about morality, beliefs, and cosmic conscience to our hearts content but it remains blather. The species developed a bicameral central nervous system that has two methods of conduct; one emotional, ephemeral, quickly reacting, the other rational, slower but sounder, evidence or factually driven. Both are needed but in balance. Achieving that balance was once what becoming an adult measured. This no longer applies for any organisation outside the size of tribal organisation. It has become necessary to revisit those qualities that made the tribe a successful organisation and then trace those qualities through the increasing social organisations and see how those qualities developed or changed. This will be an interesting journey of discovery and may possibly contain some answers to the questions now facing the species. Bon voyage!

    in reply to: Debt Rattle October 10 2021 #89670
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    Django at #89667

    The Polish.

    maybe others.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle October 4 2021 #89182
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    Keep up the spam defences by all means, otherwise you could be seeing an advert for ‘Briss Overnight Bag’, give them a couple, three loving strokes and a two suiter is yours. (smiley thing)

    in reply to: Debt Rattle October 3 2021 #89090
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    Re: Afghan War Vet Faces Dishonorable Discharge For Refusing Vaccine (JTN)

    Had the military command issues an order that all military personnel have a face tattoo, it would be just as legal as that order mandating all take the experimental jab called a vaccine. The mandated injection order cannot be considered a legal order unless all command have accreditation for medical practice and have personally examined each and every member under their command (which should keep them off the streets and out of any wars for quite some time).
    The British Admiralty was always a group of gents with their cocks up their hats; hence cock-ups. The Pentagon has now equalled the British Admiralty’s accomplishments; wonder what phrase will ensue.

    Just acknowledging John Day at #89029 yesterday’s DR; Thanks for reply.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle October 1 2021 #88943
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    Huh, what?

    Several hours w/o movement, sleep time U.S. contingent, thus: Commentariat all on D.R. 1 Oct.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle October 1 2021 #88939
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    Since the last Debt Rattle (30 Sept.) is apparently dead, reposting the final post there.

    John Day at #88907
    Appreciated your reply. After sleeping on the matter, I would have addended to my comment that your action would have given the opportunity for the others similarly effected a basis for a class action, multiplying the enormity of damages to the life investments involved. It too would help reestablish a balance between labour and management; a level, equitable playing field for future relations, something that no longer exists.

    I would also advise great caution concerning ‘morality’ and one’s relationship with such. It was the illusion of morality that has led to the delusional ‘morality’ warping the world today if you recall the ‘moral majority’ that put St. Ronnie of the Ray-gun into power. It seems you are trying to define the tao in your quest for morality, striving is like defining and if done becomes not tao. Tao will come of its own accord, like fog, creeping silently into your being silently as a cat and you will find it there when you are ready. Be careful about hiding behind your desire and lose the opportunity before you.

    I began my comment by trying to avoid any appearance of authority and shall close by disavowing authority, this is only a heart speaking, nothing more.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle September 30 2021 #88921
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    John Day at #88907
    Appreciated your reply. After sleeping on the matter, I would have addended to my comment that your action would have given the opportunity for the others similarly effected a basis for a class action, multiplying the enormity of damages to the life investments involved. It too would help reestablish a balance between labour and management; a level, equitable playing field for future relations, something that no longer exists.

    I would also advise great caution concerning ‘morality’ and one’s relationship with such. It was the illusion of morality that has led to the delusional ‘morality’ warping the world today if you recall the ‘moral majority’ that put St. Ronnie of the Ray-gun into power. It seems you are trying to define the tao in your quest for morality, striving is like defining and if done becomes not tao. Tao will come of its own accord, like fog, creeping silently into your being silently as a cat and you will find it there when you are ready. Be careful about hiding behind your desire and lose the opportunity before you.

    I began my comment by trying to avoid any appearance of authority and shall close by disavowing authority, this is only a heart speaking, nothing more.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle September 30 2021 #88876
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    John Day at #88863
    Some advise from someone without letters after their name:
    That month will go quite quickly, use some of the time to find a good and sympathetic lawyer and prepare a case for wrongful dismissal with the demand for just compensation for the time and effort invested in becoming an accredited physician, for the damages to credit caused by loss of employment, to damages to investments and contracts made under contractural employment, ask compensation for lost income. Then ask that funds be provided to establish your own clinic, for staffing, for insurance, for income level guarantee and whatever auxiliary needs that arise for a five year period needed to firmly establish your practice in the community. The sums involved would frighten the gods on Olympus itself. They might frighten that clinic’s administration into second thoughts if they are rationally inclined. In the event the clinic’s administration chooses to be rational and forgo their policy the lawsuit can be dismissed, but do not forget to make good with the lawyer; it’s bad karma to create a hungry lawyer.

    Thank you for all your efforts to educate on this site. Bread cast upon the waters (chumming) return tenfold (if you have a fishing pole or net).

    in reply to: Debt Rattle September 11 2021 #86885
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    Late post last Debt Rattle, (with small editing).

    The President of the United States of that space between Mexico and Canada IS NOT QUALIFIED to prescribe medicine and should consider his position. Resignation is the least he should face. A military firing squad would be more appropriate. No apology for his inane stupidity should be accepted – ever. But first remove the occupant of the Vice Presidency, let Nancy have the job and get that feckless perfidious c^nt out of Congress.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle September 10 2021 #86882
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    The President of the United States of that space between Mexico and Canada IS NOT QUALIFIED to prescribe medicine and should consider his position. Resignation is the least he should face. A military firing squad would be more appropriate. No apology for his inane stupidity should be accepted – ever. But first remove the occupant of the Vice Presidency, let Nancy have the job and get that feckless c^nt out of Congress.

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    John Day
    Add another kudos to the collection, finding a practitioner of medicine is becoming a rare occurrence this era, difficult at best in the orthodoxy minded European profession. European media not only follows their counterpart in that space between Mexico and Canada but earnestly tries to outdo them, failing miserably as well.

    About your potential problems at the clinic. Maybe they should be reminded that with proposed dismissal, the cost of your education and training in time, effort, treasure plus the costs of opening one’s medical office, the insurance costs encountered over a period of five years to become reestablished professionally, just might be asked of them in front of a judge. Ask them if they would be willing to take such a risk. Would be strong grounds to negotiate from.

    Am awaiting a parcel to arrive to obtain prophylactic substances for an anticipated trip to counter what ever exposure may occur. Am un-Vaxxed male, 78.5 orbits, sleep apnea, overweight (99.5 kg), and wonky (atrial fibrillation) all being treated pharmaceutically. On Lixiana 60mg for blood lubrication. My question is taking IVM 12mg x 2 per protocol use be a problem or maybe a beneficial course. Oh yes, the D level 68 ng/ml by recent analysis. I am neither worried or stressed about this virus, after all those 80+ with problems have an eighty percent risk of living according to a Swedish university study in 2020; up to 79 is still 95.65 percent risk of living for the risk adverse.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle August 29 2021 #85701
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    Please ‘splain these:

    * Is it a break-in if the front door is open? Why is it a break-through when no preventive protection is given?

    Enlighten me about the ‘logic salad’ in this paragraph:

    The team’s second major finding was more reassuring: People who never develop symptoms during a “breakthrough” infection carry very low levels of virus – a finding that should ease concerns that vaccinated people are unknowingly fueling the pandemic. However, vaccinated people who do have symptoms had the same levels of virus as infected unvaccinated people – so can spread the virus. This confirms a finding first revealed weeks ago by a CDC study in Provincetown, Massachusetts. “You’re essentially as infectious as someone who was unvaccinated,” he said. [..] Vaccination is not to be blamed for the increase in variants with these mutations, Chiu said. Because we naturally produce antibodies in response to exposure and infection, the virus is constantly changing to survive. “The virus is going to evolve to become antibody resistant, whether or not you deploy a vaccine,” he said. “But because we have a vaccine, there’s a way to prevent the virus from spreading and evolving further.”

    1. asymptomatic carry low levels of virus and do not shed virus significantly. How then can “a finding that should ease concerns that vaccinated people are unknowingly fueling [sic] the pandemic”? BUT “vaccinated people who do have symptoms had the same levels of virus as infected unvaccinated people – so can spread the virus” even though the jab is understood to give just that protection? However “Vaccination is not to be blamed for the increase in variants with these mutations” when the mutations are driven by the presence of jab produced antibodies? Then the ‘duh’: “Because we naturally produce antibodies in response to exposure and infection, the virus is constantly changing to survive. “The virus is going to evolve to become antibody resistant, whether or not you deploy a vaccine”, this statement is of the obvious to be followed by “But because we have a vaccine, there’s a way to prevent the virus from spreading and evolving further.” for which there is no evidence, given what the manufactures have claimed their jabs do NOT do those things.

    That whole paragraph needs go back to the editor shop for re-examination before being released to the public readership. BUT given the state of ersatz journalism … abandon all hope who enter there.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle August 19 2021 #84623
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    How closely related do ‘The Great Reset’ and ‘The Great Cull’ appear to be?

    Again, the world’s first trillion-airs will be the law partners in the firm handling a class action suit. The respondents myriad; governments, pharmaceutical industry, medical establishment, academia, media being the prime subjects but these do not exhaust the deep pockets involved. Invest in popcorn!

    in reply to: Debt Rattle August 12 2021 #83519
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    If your fear levels are down and need a boost, there is always this:

    https://sputniknews.com/science/202108121083591586-ocean-current-system-that-affects-large-part-of-worlds-climate-on-brink-of-collapse-study-says/

    England will be as cold as it is supposed to be.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle August 12 2021 #83439
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    Am starting to think a new vocabulary is needed to reduce the fogs generated when greater educated meet the warm moist emotions of the lesser educated, like a cold air mass meeting tropical air. First on the agenda is the problem of distinguishing between accredited medical doctors (Dr.s) some of whom actually practice the arts of ethical medicine. They should be acknowledged as accredited medical practitioners (AMP-Dr.) while those prescribing covid-19 jabs be known henceforth as just Dr.
    The trouble is all too many medically incompetents are dispensing medical advise and should be held liable for all damages caused (assuming a viable legal /judicial system is in place). None without proper accreditation should ever be allowed to prescribe medical treatment; no judge; no priest; no politician; no administrator; no governor; not even a dog catcher. Any doing so should feel the heat of forceful revolution that clears the decks of such dregs. The streets of Wuhan were NOT filled with bodies. Achieving a virtual population reduction IS a method to reduce viral spread without actually reducing population. Unknowns will eventually become knowns and change the operational environment of contending with a pandemic and must be altered when a pandemic becomes an endemic at the time this factor changes (covid-19 pandemic was over summer 2020 and became endemic from autumn 2020). Authority must be held to account for their actions. Viral particles easily passing through a mask are effected by Brownian motion more than anything, the mask do filter droplets which may carry significant viral particle loads capable of infection.

    From this point, the verbal miasma of the covid-19 swamp muck might be cleared.
    >Some meat for TAE Summary<

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    French Constitutional Court rules health pass, mandatory vaccination of health workers constitutional amid nationwide protests.

    https://www.rt.com/news/531235-french-court-health-pass-vaccination-constitutional/

    So long 5th Republic, nice knowing ye. From arrogance (Chas. DeGaul) to authoritarian (Macron), when will the French learn how to do ‘Republic’ and get it correct? WAG probably when they get into a double digit Republic, maybe 14.

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    Mad Amsky (+ tale) seems on the manic portion of their cycle. Probably can’t find the meds, deflationista hid them.

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    > Archie #81559/60

    Mad Amski (+ tale) became flyover some time ago for those very reasons – ubiquity breeds distain this case although coloured with sadness for the loss of their voice. Squeaky wheels get greased. YMMV

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    > those darned kids
    Could it be that <*a href… html should be used (remove * and finish the linkage equation)?
    just asking.

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    > Mister Roberto

    And nobody knows what transpires around the borders (+2-300 miles) of that space between Mexico and Canada under the jurisdiction of their border ‘police’? The effect is not in one direction keeping folk out only although the traffic is predominately inbound but that could change dramatically on very short notice under certain circumstances no longer inconceivable. Careful consideration must be given concerning risks to travel to that space; one false accusation and the traveler can disappear into the ‘oh so legalish’ gulag-amerikkkan. Not long ago a young Russian lady discovered this when she supported the U.S. Second Amendment (to her discomfort).

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    – Masks, distancing and lockdowns are mostly ineffective

    Masks, distancing and isolation may not be efficient preventing transmission each by themselves BUT they DO provide a virtual reduction in population hindering rapid transmission of viral pathogens; effective when other counter measures have not been developed for a given pathogen. The simplicity of the statement makes it deceptive and sadly untrue.

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    @ Red #80855/6

    Wise move, rend as large a hole in Total Information Awareness as you can. I(diot)Phones are a good first step, whether you have things to hide or not. Never bank online another step. Amazon can peddle their goods door to door for their sales. This could turn into a lengthy comment from examples, the idea must be planted though. My phone is good ol’ second generation Nokia, flashlight but no camera; batteries last a week with some use.

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    @ TAE Summary #80734

    – Vaxxed vs unvaxxed divide unbridgeable; Logical people can’t understand the other side.

    – Vaxxed [sic] vs unvaxxed [sic] divide bridgeable – called an injection of purported ‘vaccine’, a one way bridge only, no going back, a Rubicon bridge.

    Logical people can’t understand the other side. Logic has little to do with understanding in this event; a reflection of profound, irreconcilable political division a better descriptor.

    Thanks for noticing, nonetheless. (smiley thing)

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    Anecdotal note:
    “What we have here is a failure to communicate”, the divide between pro and contra vaccination has become unbridgeable, the failure of communication profound. Many factors enter into that equation: deterioration of the educational system into a state of disutility, illiteracy, innumeracy leading factors; Information systems setting records for depths of uselessness meeting needs of polity; social coherence in tatters after half century under unparalleled attacks, just to list a few factors leading to cultural and political dissolution.

    The novel corona virus has brought all to the fore and illuminated the corrosive effects the degeneration of most major institutions have had. Add to that the destruction of the social memory – history has been modified beyond recognition to meet demands, mostly irrationally, emotionally made to assuage rage for wrongs real and imagined. It is no wonder the public cannot be reached with relevant information given the profound loss of direction being suffered through those failures. Unfortunately there is no remedy for overcoming such a situation other than to let time run its course and suffer the losses inflicted, preparing the groundwork that will be needed for a reconstruction at some future, more favourable epoch whilst honing the survival skills and strategies that will be needed throughout the collapse of complexity into a sustainable and stable level of existence. As current power comes from the control of complexity, those institutions will either be swept away during the collapse or will become reorganised into socially supportive organisations that survive the collapse – time alone has that answer.

    Two members of the family have allowed injection of themselves ‘to travel’. No effort to communicate beforehand had attention paid, no rational explanation was listened to, no factual material was appreciated. Two genetic lines have been altered until they cease to exist. No telling of the genetic damages that have been and will be effected. Boy have they bought ‘a ticket to ride’. The brother has long been beyond reach, starting with severe TDS and now the covid-19 circus. A sister will be saved from exposure as she has yet to encounter a conspiracy theory she doesn’t love and covid-19 is such a beast. My vitamin D level stands at 68.0 and the future looks bright. (/anecdote).

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    @ laffin_boy; Germ; Oroboros # various places

    From somewhat eclectic readings a differing point of view arrises, what has been popularly filed under psychopathy, psychopath here is actually a vital species survival mechanism. Given that there are two methods of solving problems used by the species; one using very quick emotional response, the other using somewhat slower but rationally response based upon memory and experience rather than emotion to resolve a problem. Once tribal respect for their elders is one of the results of that difference in facing problems. Modern social complexity has rendered that solution asunder allowing some of those displaying ‘rationality propensities’ to develop without guidance or direction into destructive behaviour the popular ‘culture’ likes to use to scare and frighten us with. To use the vernacular definition in a professional manner can only lead to misprision of professional vocabulary. The English dictionary has surpassed a million words, they all deserve to be used correctly. YMMD

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    @ laffin_boy #79374

    You might find Kevin Dutton’s book “The Wisdom of Psychopaths Lessons In Life from Saints, Spies and Serial Killers” ISBN 978-0-434-02067-6 of interest. Professor Dutton is a research psychologist at Magdalen College, University of Oxford and Fellow of the Royal Society of Medicine and the Society for the Scientific Study of Psychopathy. He has organised his thesis in the form of an old fashioned book, complete with definition of terms and vocabulary (to avoid mistaken understandings) which is of considerable value to communications. An easy and engrossing read (hard to put down) that will definitely increase your understanding and appreciation of the subject.

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    @ R.I.M. 79353

    How crazy is this headline? Is it just me?

    Top 5 symptoms for fully vaccinated

    Was looking for symptoms like:

    Able to leap small puddles of water in a single bound, otherwise walk on such water.

    Sneezing when faced with facts.

    Cannot see rationality in a mirror., or Dracula either.

    Cannot hear anything disagreeable.

    Inability to civilly respond to alternative realities, assumes form of a tightly closed clam.

    or something along those lines, but No!

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