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Participantzerosum
From yesterday on HCQ: People with glucose-6-phosphate dehydrogenase (G6PD) are discouraged from taking HCQ (and a slew of other common drugs like aspirin and acetaminophen; also fava beans).
“An estimated 400 million people worldwide have glucose-6-phosphate dehydrogenase deficiency. This condition occurs most frequently in certain parts of Africa, Asia, the Mediterranean, and the Middle East. It affects about 1 in 10 African American males in the United States”. (NIH website)my parents said know
ParticipantFrom the CDC’s website
Volume 26, Number 5—May 2020
Policy Review
Nonpharmaceutical Measures for Pandemic Influenza in Nonhealthcare Settings—Personal Protective and Environmental Measures
“Disposable medical masks (also known as surgical masks) are loose-fitting devices that were designed to be worn by medical personnel to protect accidental contamination of patient wounds, and to protect the wearer against splashes or sprays of bodily fluids (36). There is limited evidence for their effectiveness in preventing influenza virus transmission either when worn by the infected person for source control or when worn by uninfected persons to reduce exposure. Our systematic review found no significant effect of face masks on transmission of laboratory-confirmed influenza.”As deaths decrease and angry golden-agers call cspan demanding that IF children are ALLOWED to go back to school, they MUST social distance and wear masks, I’m becoming a little ashamed of my age cohort.
In “House”, a brilliant but manipulative diagnostician discovers why a patient is dying. Now he could simply say “Covid”.
There are soooo many peculiar afflictions one can get to meet an untimely death.my parents said know
ParticipantIf the TV show “House” had been made today, the episodes would be ten seconds long.
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Thank you again for producing the link.my parents said know
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Come, come. I would never approve of spitting on anyone, ever, for any reason- even if I thought Covid was deadly. My line of “attack” is to stock up on some food in case I have to “shelter in place” for a real reason: monsters outside my house threatening me with a syringe filled with anything. Or forcing me to buy a cell phone.
Please do peruse Handley’s article if you haven’t yet. I’m thinking of sending it along to my governor. As they go, he’s been pretty good during this mess. I have been thinking lately about moving to a small town. State politics has overtaken “water feature” (swamp) in my search.my parents said know
ParticipantThe World vs The Virus may pan out to be World War 3. It starts with neighbor against neighbor, etc. Anyone may harbor the Virus/Enemy, so no one is a civilian. But it is really the elites vs the masses. Rights are removed. Authoritarians rule with propaganda, lies, diktat, shaming, bullying, confusion, surveillance. It is a war against human nature. The perpetrators of this war hope it won’t end until human nature dies and is replaced by algorithms.
The controllers of those algorithms would prefer to be machines. They have made it clear that humans are an infestation on the earth.
It is a sweet irony that viruses will infect the machines that will spew out the algorithms.The most glaring thing about MSM coverage of “Covid” is the reluctance to show any hope. So I urge anyone to visit Off Guardian today to read JB Handley’s article on herd immunity. Lose any fear you might have and put your energies into fighting the real enemy: the coming surveillance state and mass murder They are planning for your future.
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ParticipantWhen will they pull down the bull on Wall Street? Not that it will get rid of the bull on Wall Street…
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ParticipantOh, and I think “tin foil hats” are most becoming. I’d rather wear one of them than a mask.
(There are so many studies on the efficacy of masks- none are compellingly in their favor. There are, on the other hand, many studies that show a baby who cannot see his mother smile back at him will wail like a banshee in no time. It’s a thing we never grow out of…)my parents said know
Participantzerosum: sorry taking so long to get back. Thanks for linking it.
I think there are two illnesses out there. The “novel” coronavirus is a mild disease. The hypoxemic, blood-turns-to-glue syndrome is rare (so far), and studying it has been precluded by the hype of the former. I suspect it involves a major scandal.
I think it is a “co-factor” syndrome, which is why I had looked into the vaccinations and drugs they pump into frail folks in care homes, or urge on frail folks who live at home.
For “fun”, check the FDA’s drug recall website. A bad batch of something interacting with something else is as likely to be implicated as a virus cooked up in a lab. The “novel” coronavirus is a cover, IMO.
BTW, Lyme disease was lab grown, as far as I’m concerned.my parents said know
Participantzerosum: Here’s another over on PubMed:
Influenza Vaccination and Respiratory Virus Interference Among Department of Defense Personnel During the 2017-2018 Influenza SeasonIt’s also over on Kennedy’s “children’s health defense” under Is There a Relationship Between Influenza Vaccination and COVID-19 Mortality?
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ParticipantI’ve lost my will to post here-
It’s hot. My brain is stuck.
The way the world is headed
I no longer give a …
Damn!Went to grocery store yesterday that required masks. Instant asthma, foggy glasses, had to keep moving it to smell the produce, voices were all muffled. Worst of all, the place was filled with faceless zombies. We are hardwired for smiles.
We have entered the world of the living dead. But, gee, we’re safe, right? Safe is all there is, right? Better to be safe in Hell than to cough in Paradise, right?
Oh- and no masks with no social distancing didn’t cause The Virus to spread during our little riots. That’s so precious! God loves riots!my parents said know
Participant“Mongo see stars!”
I take that to mean you liked it- so glad! If it was the only thing computers had ever been used for, I’d say it was worth it.
For those who haven’t taken a peek, maybe “acid trip” was a poor simile. With more detail than the universe, I think it is a philosophical work…but is it art?Isn’t it grand that all the youngsters are now getting Covid in the summertime? Bring on the cases! The death numbers are dropping!
After all, if immunity is not bestowed by getting it, A VACCINE CANNOT WORK.Re the elections in the US: they will be contentious, to say the least, and the people fighting each other to champion such “leadership” is low comedy, indeed.
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Participant“Data from the Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis shows that total savings deposits at US banks jumped sharply as the coronavirus outbreak surged in March and April.” Business Insider 14 May
I saw this a while back (somewhere else). andt it surprised me. The idea was that Americans were saving their checks. I recall Lagarde tsk-ing people for saving instead of spending, and current interests rates are punishing to savers, but apparently Americans will save, given a chance (and nowhere to go to spend it.)
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ParticipantBosco: I see your lemniscate and raise you “The Hardest Mandelbrot Zoom Ever In 2014,10^198 : New record – 350 000 000 iterations”. It’s an oldie but a bestie.
Y’all have seen it, I’m sure, but it’s a lovely revisit.
New computer and still can’t do links, but goggle the quote and take a nine minute acid trip. It’s my absolute favorite Mandelbrot zoom because the aim is so good.
If you have never seen it you’re in for a treat.
Just wasting time on this very sweet summer night.my parents said know
ParticipantLincoln County, Oregon, has exempted non-white people from a new order requiring that face coverings be worn in public — to prevent racial profiling. (NY Post June 23)
Fauci on masks- People had bandanas, gingham, and sewing machines back in March, too.
I look for them when I go out-
Sometimes it takes a while.
But when I see one I return
That happy gracious smile.my parents said know
ParticipantThanks for your reply. You are a front line reporter. What you report is what I hoped, and I am so happy to hear it.
Those who must go to the ER right away- is it the same syndrome? Do all your severe respiratory cases test positive? It keeps nagging at me that we have two things going on here and we are ignoring one of them by putting it under the same umbrella as sarscov2.
There seems to be a syndrome that turns blood to glue, but I see no reason to presume it is sarscov2.my parents said know
ParticipantHuckleberry Finn keeps getting ousted, but always comes back. Huck chooses Hell over racism.
Deaths are increasing- Remdesivir is now being touted – there’s even a nasal spray.
“Remdesivir: (Major) Coadministration of remdesivir and hydroxychloroquine is not recommended. The antiviral activity of remdesivir was antagonized by chloroquine phosphate in a dose-dependent manner when the 2 drugs were co-incubated at clinically relevant concentrations in an in vitro study.”
(Prescriber’s Digital Reference)
WebMD says HCQ must not be used if using remdesivir. (’cause the remdesivir won’t “work”!)
How convenient. I swear they are manufacturing death to keep this virus going. I was skeptical when I read that the DNC wants a second wave to defeat Trump, but they DO hate him that much.If Clinton had shown some grace in her concession (or EVER!), we might not be worried about civil war. Hatred and rage make a lousy platform.
John Day: have you used HCQ+? Does it work?
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ParticipantDepersonalization started with pagers. (Feel free to go back further.) The pager beeped and Very Important People rudely interrupted their social group to answer it. Technology beckoned and we answered, “Yes!”
Computers followed on the heels of television to make our screentime productive. And we said, “Yes. Yes!” Telephones went mobile soon after, and once again people felt the tech out-privileged the social group and took calls, saying “Yes, yes. Yes!” Then they all melded together and the Singularity didn’t need to be wired into heads- it was glued to the palms of our hands. People could attempt conversation but one -eventually all- would rudely scroll and text and take calls, saying, “Yes, yes, yes, oh yes!”One day, somebody modelled that we were all going to die (something we tend to deny) unless we let the screens run our lives- socializing was banned and masks hid our emotions. We had to be tracked and monitored For Our Own Good. All necessary interaction could be done by the screen. School, work, parties, the doctor, worship, rituals, government mandates.. We never had to touch each other again. Soon we’ll be chipped like all the Things in the Internet thereof, and danger may come but we’ll feel no fear. Heaven?
And we said “Yes! Yes! Yes! Ohhh YES!”
Now we are no longer human, and having sold out our humanity for safety, we deserve every last rotten thing that comes along. The proud (with different rules) will inherit the earth, each one using as much as a million once did. The few Meek remaining will comb garbage dumps for rare earths. A privileged few Meeks will live in full health until their kidney or liver or heart is needed.
Well done, species. (Cue illustration from Canto 34: Lucifer, King of Hell: He looks frustrated. He didn’t want soul-less creatures devoid of Will, did he? Where is the suffering in those who feel nothing? Where is the free will to crush in those who forgot how to say “NO”?)My apologies to Joyce, who comes to me via a Rodney Dangerfield movie.
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ParticipantCivil war…
It depends on how August pans out, economically. It looks bleak, and it will be hot.It’ will be hard to have elections in a nation of homeless people. The Erinyes will step in. Then it will get nasty.
The US gov will start wars elsewhere to “unite” the people and give them things to do. US “allies” might find pro-American State Forces will face angry citizens refusing to “help” the US. The US will use bombs and sanctions to compel allies to join. The civil wars spread worldwide as food grows scarce and sides- many, many sides- form, dissipate, and form anew.
We’ll see weapons we never saw before.Bunker hunting will become everyone’s favorite sport. Everyone who was going to die of covid will have done so.
On a happier note, people will start hugging and kissing and hanging out again. Hands will be shaken, songs will be sung together. Food will be shared over candlelight, if you’re lucky enough to have either.my parents said know
ParticipantHatred of Trump is not a platform, but I find friends and family thinking it is, and if I don’t agree I become the object of their fury..
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ParticipantThat civil war that looms on the November horizon won’t stay in the US. It will be the first World Civil War.
This is what smart phones and globalism have wrought.
Hyperbole, yeah, but it’s late.my parents said know
ParticipantWe flattened the curve, The Virus is not going to disappear. If you want to protect yourself with masks, more power to you. If you want to avoid gatherings- okay. But if you want to take a chance and catch it and rely on the knowledge that there is a reliable treatment if you think you have caught it, you are adding to the community immunity.
Masks, ANTI social distancing (as they call it over at The Slog) no parties, no contact, no wooing, no singing, no laughing, no sports, no FUN…’til when? What does that future look like?
They can do this with the flu, you know. Every fall we will all don masks, stay away from each other when the months are long and dark, cancel Holidays and the fabric of society’s biggest push. We will make fun taboo when fun is needed most. If you think fun is trivial and worth foregoing to prevent death… you haven’t learned about life at all. The very young are taking this in- coming up is a generation of scolders and bitties who are hungry to steal from the future to protect themselves NOW.
Where else have I seen that? Boomers?? They refuse to retire, and think the fact that their house keeps going up in price is a good thing even as their kids and grandkids scramble for housing. Kids stuck at home and you’re getting A LITTLE TIRED of them? Pooh. Been there done that. Don’t bring them here- it’s dangerous. Didn’t save enough for times like these? Talk to your Uncle Sam.
The least the “keep the lockdown going” tribe needs to see is that there is another tribe that is willing to take the risks of life and go ahead with NORMAL. Normal is not dead. Normal is what will happen regardless of the anxious, death-phobic, numbers-ignorant folks who think if we just deny living long enough, death might pass us by.
I’m at a loss. What next for the cocooners? When will they crack out and fly, because that’s what life demands? It’s dangerous out there.
Thank goodness.my parents said know
ParticipantHere’s something that is not the same old same old: Gene Drive Files. It’s a website that covers the following. [I still haven’t got links down.]
“Gene drives are a gene-editing application that allows genetic engineers to drive a single artificial trait through an entire population by ensuring that all of an organism’s offspring carry that trait. For example, recent experiments are fitting mice with ‘daughterless’ gene drives that will cascade through mouse populations so that only male pups are born, ensuring that the population becomes extinct after a few generations.”What fun! We’re gonna chop out links in the Great Chain of Being!
[I got this from over at Rappoport today.]my parents said know
ParticipantI’m so happy you finally made it to Greece, RIM. May the gods smile on you and leave you be so you and your group may flourish.
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ParticipantTyler is one real person? I thought “he” was plural.
One person’s excitement is another person’s anxiety.
On cspan right now: “National Guard and Operation Warp Speed Confirmations”. Hunh?
Warp Speed is the vaccine/treatment program. I really don’t want to listen to the hearing, but confirmations of who for what? What’s the national guard have to do with it? I don’t like this at all.Vitamin D levels turn out to be clinically significant. That’s why everyone had to stay indoors. No mention of sunscreen as a cause for low D levels. I’m surprised rickets hasn’t returned.
Gen. Gustave Perna (Warp Speed COO nominee) saying he’ll make sure operations move quickly.
NO NO NO NO! No military!my parents said know
ParticipantOT In the shunned NYT Science section, there is an article titled “Is That a Bot or Not…” One “Kate Starbird” was mentioned, and I bring this up because of where she works:
The University of Washington’s “Emergent Capacities of Mass Participation Laboratory”.
It’s nice to know such a place exists, isn’t it? /s
(The article concluded that it is very difficult to tell a bot from a human.)my parents said know
ParticipantHow about a little “lighter-hearted” Dore? Canto 19 “Dante addresses Pope Nicholas III” makes me giggle. What did Nick do to find himself in such a predicament?
Ah! Nepotism!
Kamala Harris??!! Well, she is a perfect match for the old law-n-order Biden…(speaking of nepotism…)Isn’t it nice that Powell is investing in corporate bonds for me? How considerate of him! Maybe he could buy some stocks for me, as well. And here I was thinking of getting out of “The Markets” altogether.
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ParticipantI used to sit in my grandparents’ attic looking at the engravings in the Divine Comedy. Dore’s stuff was pretty heavy for a little kid. You have a trove of apt illustrations at your fingertips, Ilargi. Some of them are mighty grim.
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ParticipantThe DNC seems determined to get Trump re-elected. The saddest thing about having two incoherent candidates at the top of the tickets is that I think they understand each other.
The dead horse that is Russia-gate was too tough to swallow- even for those who are going to have to eat it, so they must keep beating it until it is tender, I guess.
NYC Blues
The words create fear. The fear creates stress.
The stress leads to symptoms. The symptoms progress.So he took to his bed, where his ailing increased.
He went to the doctor, and now he’s deceased.my parents said know
ParticipantIlargi-
I like it when you write instead of cite, and the thought-provoking comments here indicate others do, too.
Thanks.my parents said know
Participant“Taken accountability” …”for the distress…”
Isn’t this everyone’s favorite “apology”? I’m so sorry —you feel that way.
Is “accountability” Aussie for “responsibility”? When used this way, what does either one mean?
Isn’t the right version: “it was my fault, and I have been fired.”
One syllable words have more punch.
Or is it: “Mono-syllabic vocabulary is inherently superior in expressiveness”?my parents said know
ParticipantYesterday I saw an ad on tv that is “letting” you buy fractional stocks- is that a thing? Sounds a bit like the shoe-shiner anecdote. Who wouldn’t want a piece of that action?
I’ll start with $5 worth of BRK.Amy parents said know
ParticipantOh- The video is an interview of a nurse who worked at NYC’s Elmhurst Hospital- the “epicenter of the epicenter”. Intubation is a key subject.
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ParticipantConcerning summertime Vit D: you not only have to exit your air conditioned abode, you will also have to forego the sunscreen for at least 20 minutes.
Concerning the future of starvation: so everything is going according to plan, right? Isn’t there a vaccine for that? /s
Concerning the Markets: it’s all funny money, anyways, and may go POOF before you know it.
Over at Ed Curtin’s site today there is a video that is very much worth watching. Rage and weep.my parents said know
ParticipantAnyone out there- check on a video over at Information Clearing House called “Honey, I Shrunk Trump” under May 29, 2020.
I’m pretty sure you’ll laugh out loud.my parents said know
ParticipantI just saw the Strib’s list of businesses that were damaged or destroyed- a few were favorites of mine. My wine store suffered heavy damage and looting. (I suppose I sound like a snoot there, but I really like the owner and his family who helps him run it.) What kind of condolences does one send to the victim of such a thing? It’s also notable that so many of the stores were standing in the way of urban renewal.
It’s going to be a fun summer? I cross my fingers.
I love heat and humidity, but I’ll wish this summer to be cool and drizzly.Biden? Good grief. He’s the best the DNC has? I made myself listen to Trump yesterday- those debates are going to awesome. /s And utterly incoherent.
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ParticipantNature:
The old die so the young may grow old.
Amen.my parents said know
ParticipantOn a different note- I was watching Dr. Michael Saag of U of Alabama on cspan this morning. He made it clear that HCQ was experimental and clearly did not endorse it yet…
Until a woman called and asked if he had used it when he was sick with the virus in March (as he had mentioned).
He did.
Facade and reality.my parents said know
ParticipantRIM: When people are so afraid of sickness and death that they give up what makes life worth living- and now seem willing to embrace a surveillance state- I call that extreme. I did.
What you cite I call unbearable, terrifying- which is also extreme.
We are living in a monstrous social experiment. This will show up in those who are children now when they become adults. Some of those effects may be a fear of Others, and an inability to see their humanity, which may lead to the terrors you cite.my parents said know
ParticipantOn Taleb’s last point: Evasively stated. Humans are psychological beings. I’m pretty sure policy (decision)-makers ask “how will people react?” because they risk non-compliance if they ignore it.
The surveillance state that the medical experts want to roll out because of The Virus is already being resisted. They could have tried it right off the bat, but they would have risked extreme non-compliance: they had to whip up extreme fear first. Making policy without caring about the psychological ramifications is a hallmark of totalitarianism.
Medical Martial Law: “I’m cold. All of you, put a sweater on!”
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