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Over a few months time maybe Wallensky will come to say most of what Malone, McCullough, Van Den Bossche, etc. are saying but will never admit the CDC was wrong. It will just be that “The Science” has worked and we now know more than we did because “The Science” has worked. Those guys were just guessing but were still untrustworthy because when they said it it was based on guessing and not “The Science.” Might as well have believed flat earth theories as to have believed them until “The Science” told us what the real truth is. It’s always best to wait for “The Science.”
We may never get our “I told you so” moment and I am OK with that if it means the madness stops.
What if the largest experiment on human beings in history is a failure?
The largest experiment on human beings in history may have been telling us that fat was bad and sugar was OK
It was a massive failure and caused many more deaths than Covid has so far and has many of the same features of this debacle.Insurance CEO Says Deaths Up 40% Among Working Age People
Complete information on this should be the sine qua non. I want to see this with stats on whether the deceased were vaccinated, had Covid and if they had Covid with early treatment. Reliable data on this would mean the end of all debate.
The news is full of US children hospitalized with COVID in record numbers.
And then there’s this is a surprising admission by Fauci:But the other important thing is that if you look at the children who are hospitalized, many of them are hospitalized with COVID as opposed to because of COVID,” Fauci added. “And what we mean by that — if a child goes in the hospital, they automatically get tested for COVID. And they get counted as a COVID-hospitalized individual. When in fact, they may go in for a broken leg or appendicitis or something like that. So it’s over-counting the number of children who are, quote, ‘hospitalized with COVID,’ as opposed to because of COVID.
from Fauci Now Says Hospitals Are ‘Overcounting’ COVID-19 Cases In Children
@HerrWerner
Thanks for posting the Dr. Yogendra interview. I listened (at high speed) to that plus part 2
Very interesting. Lots of new info. A couple things:
1) They found the main mechanism of long Covid is the spike protein getting stuck in macrophage cells which causes perpetual cytokine production.
2) They are mainly looking at the spike protein coming from Covid but the same thing likely happens from the vaxx.
3) They are doing a trial with two drugs, Maraviroc and Atorvastatin, both from Pfizer. The first resets the immune system and the second stops stuff from attaching to vascular cells. It takes several weeks for it to work.
4) The vaccine does not cure long covid as is claimed. It sometimes gives temporarily relief but makes many much worse in the long run.
5) He is not anti-vaccine but says if you have long Covid you should cure that before getting vaxxed.
6) His research is downplayed by CDC, NIH, universities, etc. and they tell people not to follow their treatment. He is getting the Kory treatment.@Bosco
Thanks but unfortunately it had no effect on D. Originally the letter had links in it and he disregarded them all as being from unreliable sources. For example, with McCullough he linked back to his Wikipedia page which says he spreads vaxx misninfo. I asked him what sources he found reliable and he said CNN, CDC, NIH, WHO and apparently Wikipedia.The friend and his wife both had Covid. He said the first 5 days were not bad but then they took a turn for the worst and went to the hospital. They both have weight issues. In the hospital he was afraid he might die and said only monoclonal antibodies saved his wife’s life. His wife BTW is a nurse. This was pre-vaccine and they both got the vaxx ASAP because they were told they might get Covid again and they didn’t want to go through a repeat. Now they have both been boosted. I have empathy (or is it sympathy) for him. He’s gone through something I haven’t and has a different perspective. We’re still friends.
” It may be good therapy for everyone to put all their Covid thoughts and frustrations in writing.”
My letter to a friend written a month or two ago, before Omicron:
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D—–,
First, here are things we probably agree on:
1) We are both trying to improve our odds. There’s no guarantee with any approach
2) The vaccines diminish symptoms, hospitalization and deaths from Covid for a limited amount of time
3) Long Covid is a real problem and affects a lot of the people who get CovidThat said …
What we were originally told about the vaccines was not true. We were told by Fauci, Biden, Gates and Wallensky that if you got the vaccine you wouldn’t get Covid, get hospitalized or die from Covid. You wouldn’t need a mask any more. Your life would go back to normal. We were told if 70% of the population got vaccinated we would reach herd immunity. These things are now known to be misinformation. The CDC now says we cannot expect to reach herd immunity ever with the vaccines and that boosters must continue indefinitely even if everyone gets vaxxed (The vaccines will never get us back to normal and your anger at the unvaccinated is misplaced.) There is still a lot we don’t know about the vaccines. But the same people still expect us to do what they tell us to do. Yes, science is a learning process but I have to question either their honesty or competence.
Up until recently Covid 19 vaccines in the US only had Emergency Use Authorization. Emergency Use Authorization is only available for vaccines for diseases for which no treatment exists. It was unquestionably in the best interest of Pfizer, et. al. to have no such treatment found and approved so that they could get ‘warp speed’ authorization for the vaccines and the consequent billions of dollars in profits. Despite being around for 20 months there is no non-vaccine treatment for Covid 19 (This may change with the Pfizer drug which BTW is $700. It is claimed that the mechanism of the Pfizer drug is the same as that of Ivermectin.) The standard of care is essentially if you get Covid go home and if you get sick enough go to hospital. This is unbelievable. One might ask why the CDC, FDA, NIH or WHO didn’t investigate existing drugs to find something that could be prescribed before hospitalization. Anyone who claimed to have found such a drug was mocked and demonized. One might think that when these claims were made one of these agencies might have investigated Hydrochloroquine or Ivermection or even Vitamin D to see if it was true. But only vaccines were pushed as a possible solution to Covid Why is this? (OK, rhetorical. It’s the money.)
The mRNA vaccines work by getting your body to create spike proteins which your immune system then creates antibodies for. Spike proteins are the part of the virus that does the damage. The virus has three phases. The first is in the respiratory system and lasts several days. This is often not so bad. In the second phase the virus gets in to the vascular system through the lungs. The spike protein on the virus attaches to the lining of blood vessels and this damage can cause clotting and other problems. The third phase is inflammation as the body tries to deal with the damage done to cells by the virus. This phase is the most dangerous and causes the respiratory problems that kill people. The reason the vaccines are effective is because the spike protein antibodies help to stop the virus at stage 2. The reason they are dangerous is because the vaccines themselves generate spike proteins that can cause the same damage as stage 2. A lot of people have suffered adverse effects from the vaccines but this is ignored by the mainstream media.
The Lancet reports that vaccinated people infected with Covid 19 transmit the disease at about the same rate as the unvaccinated (23% vs 25%). According to British statistics people over 30 are twice as likely to get Covid 19 if they are vaccinated than if they are not. It appears that the vaccinated have milder symptoms on average than the unvaccinated if they contract Covid. Given that the vaccinated are about twice as likely to have Covid and just as likely to transmit it, it is the unvaccinated who are at higher risk from the vaccinated than vice versa. Whenever I hear people saying that unvaccinated can’t come to events because they threaten the vaccinated it sounds ridiculous. “I am protected and you aren’t so you are a threat to me.” I was allowed to come to the office when no one was vaccinated but now that other people are vaccinated I am not. Am I a bigger threat than I was previously? Are they at more or less risk now that they are vaccinated? This seems illogical and punitive.
The vaccines have unknown side effects. British statistics show that the death rate for all causes per 100K in the last 6 months are about double for the vaccinated as the unvaccinated. Deaths from causes other than Covid are not being attributed to the vaccines but there is definitely a correlation. When Pfizer did their tests they saw something similar but only reported deaths from Covid 19. The vaccines have long term effects that are unknown. Yes, they protect people short term, but the vaxxed pooh pooh the possibility of long term problems. In my experience a lot of vaccinated people are now emotionally invested in vaccines being good. Similarly people not wanting vaccination are emotionally invested in vaccines being bad. Everyone needs to admit that they are biased and make allowances for the other side. We need to avoid the attitudes “I hope all the unvaccinated die” or “I hope all the vaccinated die”. I’ve heard both. I heard from you “If only Covid were as deadly as Ebola it would force the unvaxxed to get vaxxed.”
There is research that shows that the vaccines modify the immune system. I read about this but it is above my pay grade. However it is very believable that when mRNA enters your cells it has effects we don’t yet understand that alter the immune system. Yes, as you state mRNA tech has been around a long time, but this is the first widespread use in humans. To claim it is some tried and true technology that is totally understood is ridiculous. Does it mess with your immune system? There is evidence that it does and we should err on the side of caution. My ex-sister-in-law was a thalidomide baby and the effects on her children have been devastating.
You are willing to get a booster every 6 months in perpetuity. OK for you, but given what we don’t know this sounds extraordinarily risky for young children. Are there long term studies of how this will affect children in 5 years? Of course not. Everyone knows that young children are at little risk for Covid 19 itself. No young children died in Oregon from Covid. The official reasons for giving children the vaccines are 1) they can still get Covid and some (mainly the comorbid) suffer consequences and 2) to protect their elders. This just sounds crazy. A treatment with unknown long term consequences given to children to protect their parents, teachers and other adults. Just. Crazy. The official answer is just trust us and to put the burden of proof on the people who think it sounds risky. Just. Crazy.
Some make the argument that we should mandate vaccination so as not to overrun hospitals with patients. OK. Let’s make a rule that people should be forced to take health measures that prevent hospitalization and lets apply it evenly which would mean a lot of measures besides Covid vaccination. Do we want to go there as a society? Should the government get to tell people what to eat and drink and what they need to inject in their bodies and what entertainment is allowed so they can be kept out of the hospital?
Not everyone is as likely to go to hospital with Covid. People with comorbidities are much more likely to have adverse Covid effects and end up in the hospital and die. This is rarely addressed. Vitamin D has been shown to be a predictor of infection, seriousness and mortality from Covid. I get no credit for improving my odds by keeping my Vitamin D levels high and avoiding comorbidities through diet and exercise. People like you laugh at it. “Oh, you trust your immune system? With that and a buck you can buy coffee at McDonalds!” It’s one size fits all and that size is the vaccines.
So for me 1) I have reduced my risk by diet, supplements and exercise 2) I don’t have comorbidities like obesity 3) I generally avoid crowds 4) I trust the information from doctors actually treating patients about the ability of Ivermectin to combat Covid 5) I don’t want to damage my immune system and double my future mortality risk by getting the shot. I see my biggest risk as long Covid. My daughter has some long Covid symptoms (mainly loss of smell) and says it is quite disturbing. Some claim that Ivermectin reduces the chances of this but I’m not sure of that. The Covax vaccine is a traditional disabled-virus vaccine and doesn’t mess with your immune system. I might be willing to get Covax. Unfortunately it may never be available in the US. There is no profit in it for big pharma. It is being rolled out in Iran. Maybe I should go there to get it.
I don’t want to get in to a mask discussion. I will just say that ventilation is more effective than masks at preventing Covid 19. We never hear about that.
I am also skipping a description of how patients in hospitals are treated with a deadly combination of remdesivir and ventilation.
I compare our current situation to the demonization of fat in the 1970’s. The US government and all it’s industry funded experts agreed, everyone (including me) believed the experts and bought into it and it became policy and the obesity epidemic of today followed. I believe we are seeing the same kind of thing again.
I also compare our situation to the Iraq war: claim an existential threat, get government experts to agree, get the MSM to beat the drum, roll out an expensive plan to address the problem, demonize those who disagree, when the profits have been realized and the whole thing is shown to be based on lies and ends in disaster no one is to blame, it was all honest mistakes based on the best data we had available.
Best,
M——–
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Further discussions with my friend convinced me that further discussion with him are a waste of time.
Speaking of masks I bought three masks from ViruShield
They are just a small plastic shield that covers your nose and mouth and sticks to the bridge of your nose. They are ridiculously expensive but you can use them forever by replacing the sticky bit with double sided tape. They are good to wear with glasses and don’t fog them up and the glasses help keep them on. They are totally ineffective as a mask, so about as good as what most masks people wear but don’t inhibit breathing at all. I have worn one to stores and even in the airport and nobody in ‘authority’ has said anything (except they won’t let you on a plane with one). I get a lot of surprised looks and smiles and on occasion someone will ask me where to get one. They are not as non-compliant as no mask but make the statement “OK, if you insist I’ll wear a stupid, worthless mask, so there.”@Henry
Ordinary Men sounds very interesting. Thanks for writing about it. It seems like we as a society talk about the Nazis a lot and that book make me think we do it because it makes us feel better about ourselves because we
falsely believe we could never be like them and are superior. I figured out a while ago that when we say something about someone else (including or maybe especially saying something about God) we are mostly saying something about ourselves. This even applies to this comment: I am really saying that I am superior to other people who say bad things about others in order to make themselves feel superior. It’s turtles all the way down.@absolute galore
I was on the debate team in high school and we had something we called a “squirrel case”. In one variant you made claims in a very assertive voice but gave no evidence whatsoever and when challenged just continued to make the claims authoritatively with absolutely no evidence. We sometimes used this when we were totally unprepared. So when I saw the Biden clip I immediately recognized it:1) Omicron is coming
2) Unvaccinated face winter of illness and death.
3) Vaccinated are protected from severe illness and death. Period.
4) Booster shots work.
5) Booster are free, safe and convenient.
6) Schools and business will be open “and I want to see everyone around enjoy that” or else.
7) The only real protection from Omicron is to get the shot.
8) If you have your booster you’re in really good shape.Classic squirrel case.
I sent a friend the McCullough/Rogan interview. His pre-listening response was that McCullough has been discredited and he sent a link to McCullough’s Wikipedia page where there is a section on his supposed anti-vaxx stance. He still listened but thinks the whole idea that there was a concerted effort to push vaccines and ignore out-patient treatment is just conspiracy and compared it to the flat earth theory. The exchange with him was very disheartening. McCullough seems the most reasonable and informed person I have listened to and I agreed with 90% of what he said in the interview. My friend is a very intelligent and perceptive person and to find us on completely different sides of this is unnerving.
I worked with the same friend at the beginning of the Iraq war. He was for the war and firmly believe in WMD while I was against and didn’t. He eventually realized he was wrong. Maybe it will happen that way again.
I did read the McCullough’s Wikipedia page and the discrediting carried little weight.
If you care about others and think they are on the wrong path consider carefully what approach you take in trying to correct them. If you want your kids to be good Christians, beating them into it probably won’t work.
If you don’t care and just want to vent your spleen beatings are as good a way as any to fail at it.
A possible new narrative:
1) The vaxxed took the risk, sacrificed and got the jab that slowed Covid down and kept society functioning until a benign variant (omicron) arrived
2) The unvaxxed freeloaded but now enjoy the benefits
3) The vaxxed, like wounded soldiers, are now suffering the consequences of their sacrifice for the unvaxxed
4) The vaxxed are like veterans and are owed support for the rest of their lives from the unvaxxedTest
CartoonThis is the first simultaneous *global* genocide.
Natural selection says the fittest survive and disease can be a mechanism for improving the population. Supposedly the vaccines overcome natural selection and select for the compliant instead of the fittest. But this is a lie and the vaccines will hit the compliant and pass over the non-compliant that are fit and that can survive Covid. Survival of the non-compliant is unacceptable so they created a governmental effort to either make the non-compliant compliant or to starve them out. So we have two attempted genocides going on at the same time: A gene therapy effort to get rid of the compliant and a resource allocation effort to get rid of the non-compliant. Both redefine who the fittest are and who should be allowed to survive.
@V Arnold – from yesterday
…and I thought (foolishly), this was the last place I would hear anything about KK…
The gods will abandon us for a certainty over this travesty of all reason and intelectual depth…I apologize that I once again disregarded Poe’s law and caused you distress. My comment was not meant at all seriously. I intended to say that Fauci has even less credibility that KK who is of course not a source for valid information at all. Or maybe I misread you and you are also speaking tongue in cheek and ignoring Poe’s law as well. (And maybe I’m not taking you seriously and this comment is just part of the burlesque. It’s farce all the way down.)
@Trivium
I always learn something from your comments.
I thought you might find one of my favorite verses from the Bible useful:But if any man be ignorant, let him be ignorant.
1 Corinthians 14:38
In One Hour Is She Made Desolate
Along these same lines is this from a psychic via Kim Kardashian
In around 2020 a severe pneumonia-like illness will spread throughout the globe, attacking the lungs and bronchial tubes and a resisting all known treatments. Almost more baffling than the illness itself will be the fact that it will suddenly vanish as quickly as it arrived, attack again ten years later, and then disappear completely.
We should take this seriously since Kim Kardashian/psychic appear more objective, reliable and consistent than Tony Baloney Fauci.
This showed up in my news feed:
COVID-19 Breakthrough: Scientists Discover How the SARS-CoV-2 Virus Evades Our Immune System
It claims to be new research and saysNaturally, the cells in a human’s immune system are able to control virus infection by destroying infected cells so that the virus cannot be replicated. The gene that is essential in executing this process, called NLRC5, regulates major histocompatibility complex (MHC) class I genes, which are genes that create a pathway that is vital in providing antiviral immunity. Kobayashi and his colleagues discovered this in 2012.
“During infection, the amount and activity of NLRC5 gene become augmented in order to boost our ability of eradication of viruses,” Kobayashi said. “We discovered that the reason why SARS-CoV-2 can replicate so easily is because the virus carries a suppressive gene, called ORF6, that acts to inhibit the function of NLRC5, thus inhibiting the MHC class I pathway as well.”
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Although the introduction of COVID-19 vaccines, such as the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines, can lower an individual’s chance of contracting the virus, there is currently no permanent therapy that can entirely prevent a human from contracting SARS-CoV-2.
“We hope that this new discovery will allow us to develop a new drug that can block this gene so our immune system will be able to fight off the coronavirus for good,” de Figueiredo said.It sounded familiar. A google search found this:
The FDA-approved drug ivermectin inhibits the replication of SARS-CoV-2 in vitro
Which includes thisIn addition, the SARS-CoV accessory protein ORF6 has been shown to antagonize the antiviral activity of the STAT1 transcription factor by sequestering IMPα/β1 on the rough ER/Golgi membrane (Frieman et al., 2007). Taken together, these reports suggested that ivermectin’s nuclear transport inhibitory activity may be effective against SARS-CoV-2.
The first article suggests some new drug be developed to do what the second article says Ivermectin already does. Perhaps some one more knowledgeable can comment on this.
If you want a good laugh, there’s this:
How Can I Protect Myself Against Omicron?
The same tools used to stop previous versions of COVID-19 will help when it comes to omicron.
Masks in indoor settings, where ventilation tends to be worse and the virus tends to spread more easily if it’s present, can help protect you from becoming infected, or protect others if you’re sick and haven’t yet realized it.
And vaccines are still important. Scientists are studying whether current vaccines are less effective against omicron, which we don’t have enough data to say for certain is the case.
Even if we end up needing an omicron-specific COVID-19 vaccine, partial protection from the vaccines we have now is better than no protection at all.
I read about this MIT Covid cough test app over a year ago. I wonder why it never saw the light of day?
An interesting interview with Melissa Ciummei
We are running out of time and we need to stand up
All we really need to do is mass non-compliance
It is now accepted even by Fauci that the “vaccines” become ineffective after a few months. I would be interested in understanding why this is. I can think of two possibilities:
1) The immune system forgets how to create the antibodies for the spike protein over time
2) The virus mutates so that over time the spike protein antibodies don’t recognize the mutated virus
If 1) is true then a booster might get your immune system to remember how to make the spike protein antibodies, or it might not. I haven’t heard anything about testing boosters. The default response is “If it worked once it will work again” which seems naive.
If 2) is true then a booster is totally useless.
In either case they can have no idea as to the effectiveness of a booster against a variant they knew nothing about a few days ago.
If one of the good doctors here knows more about this I would be interested in a more educated explanation.@my parents said know
Watching “Cabaret”. Beauty is amoral. Discuss
I always loved Tomorrow Belongs to Me
Would be a great Covid vaccine theme song.
TAE is the old guy at 1:40 and 2:26@deflationista
I agree that one needs to be careful and not ascribe a typical phenomena to the wrong source. The problem is that for sudden cardiac arrest (as well as Covid and Ivermectin) it seems we can’t get the whole story. The agencies we depend on for the research aren’t forth coming and don’t seem interested in collecting and disseminating information. Everything is obscured in the name of preventing vaccine hesitancy. Do we have an excess of sudden cardiac arrest among the young and healthy? I don’t know for sure but nothing you have written answers that question. Your info reminds me of climate change deniers saying “We’ve always had heat waves. Nothing new here.” The question is are we seeing more now.A thought experiment: Suppose only children under 18 could catch Covid-19 and that they exhibited the same symptoms and outcomes they do now. Would we create a vaccine for this and require all children to get it after only a few months of trial?
I have a friend who had Covid and then got vaccinated and just had his first booster. He thinks the unvaxxed are selfish fools (including me I guess) but says he is willing to consider evidence to the contrary. He is an engineer and thinks very logically. If I only send him one thing what is the single best paper or article I could send him?
Fauci Interview
Hubris personifiedSpeaking of healing, when I want to escape it all I turn out the lights and listen to this.
I hope you don’t meet a similar fate.
Come now, from the way you address us you must hope we all meet this fate.
