D Benton Smith
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You’re stuck at anger/vengeance, which is a not a good or viable place to be or stay. If you don’t move yourself on up then the only other direction is down, and that is even less good and utterly unviable because in that direction lies true death. If you were looking for Hell and found hatred it would serve just about as well. Acceptance doesn’t mean giving up or abandoning plans and actions for a better future.. It means SEEING that which is already carved in the stone of reality. That fact or situation that “is” might be pretty damn bad, but it’s sure better than not even knowing it, but living in it anyway and with no way out because one can’t even SEE that it simply is what is.
I suppose it’s alright to blow off a little steam in ranting about a bad actuality, but then it’s time to stop ranting and get on with the business of fixing what’s broke. Thinking and talking is your next step, so you’re sure in the right place for that.Just as you suspected, @Kassandra, acceptance is not the last stage. Not by a long shot. In fact, “acceptance” is just a smidgen above the halfway mark on the way to much much better states of being, and there is nothing sad or depressing about it. Acceptance (perhaps of a fact or state-of-affairs that one previously wished was not so) is nothing more nor less than recognition that something simply IS whatever it is. Another word for that is “truth” and another way of defining truth is “awareness of that which which actually exists”.
It only feels less than joyously wonderful at times because the process of increasing awareness has not yet run the fullness of its course. If one stays that course there will indeed be plenty of joy at the end of the long slog upward, out of an existence of largely self-inflicted ignorance, obliviousness and pain, and into an existence of increasing awareness that this Universe we are privileged to occupy is of such exquisite beauty that learning the beauty is in itself a long and often arduous process of shedding lies misconceptions and irresponsibilities one challenging step at a time.
The next step above acceptance, for example, is “Assimilation” of the just accepted fact into all of the other parts of one’s world view. In other words, how does this newly accepted truth relate to and interrelate with all of the other things one knows? Then, above Assimilation, is Integration of the freshly accepted and assimilated knowledge into one’s present and future actions.
And so on up through the graduated stages of awareness on one’s way to whatever top God has in store for us. The scale looks something like the scale I’ve listed below (note the * items are the stages of grief first identified by Dr. Elisabeth Kubler-Ross and David Kessler]
Awareness
Identity
Consciousness
Love
Beauty
Purpose
Utility
Understanding
Integration
Assimilation
* Acceptance
* Depression (sadness)
* Bargaining (thinking)
* Anger (vengeance)
* Denial
Overwhelm
Anxiety
Worry
Dread
Obviousness
OblivionThe scale of awareness is a work in progress, and I should mention that it seems to have a distinct fractal or hologrammatic aspect to its nature, in that there are steps between each step and that these intermediary steps are themselves a repetition of the entire scale. In other words, to get from depression to acceptance involves going through the entire sequence of obliviousness (about acceptance) on up through each step until reaching awareness (of acceptance.)
Say, I just heard that New York City basement storage facilities, apartments, garages, subways, etc. are coming on to the market really cheap. All you need to claim the soggy properties and their contents is scuba gear and a BIG pump.
I can see some aspects of the war playing out for months and years, but the BASIC situation on the ground is that the cities and their satellites (down to a certain unknown size) are all command and control strongholds of the enemy. Note that the primary weapons of the enemy are ALL pretty much one aspect or another of that self-same “command and control”, which are decidedly NOT physical goods themselves, but merely command and control of goods that physically reside elsewhere. This immutable fact makes the cities and their inhabitants EXTREMELY vulnerable to siege tactics, because EVERYTHING they need comes from the outside. Their only “export” is “command and control” directives . . . which are pretty thin gruel on a cold dark night.
Food, fuel, energy, durable goods and materials for manufacturing can be withheld (in many many many different ways!) as leverage in all transactions with the enemy which has locked itself into cities, from which they cannot safely escape.
Truckers (and farmers, and hosts of other suppliers) could bring ANY city to the bargaining tables on its knees in less than a week. It will take some time for the supreme advantage this gives to the yokels really sinks in to minds of the negotiators of the two sides, but even the kindest and gentlest yokels will quickly discover that even the meanest and cruelest villain and moronic minion will make bigger and faster concessions when they are starving and freezing in the dark.
It’s a good day for yokels. Holed-up despots and denizens, not so much.
@JohnDay
I have been seeing a rumor for a couple of weeks that something very bad will happen on October 4, so find some way to disconnect your smartphone battery or put it in a Faraday cage, or be nowhere near it or other 5G devices like routers and laptops.”
On Oct 4 the Federal Government will assume “temporary”, but preemptive, control over the cellular phone system of the United States for 30 minutes. Think of this as slipping into the pilot’s chair and laying hands on the controls of the entire system, end-to-end, for 30 minutes. The 30 minutes is merely the verification ( the “test” ) that they have indeed successfully got the whole apparatus doing what they want it to, how they want it to, and when they want it to. Months and perhaps years of work were required to wire up and program all the technical and bureaucratic stuff necessary to do that. The 30 minutes is merely confirmation that all the work actually worked.
No more slap-dash patches, work-arounds , go-betweens and bureaucratic compromises. Just Total Control, in one set of hands, on demand.
No need to give anyone Marburg or Chickenpox or even the sniffles, because from that moment onward, in any MODERN kind of war or hot revolution they’re pretty near as good as dead already. Imagine fighting a high tech conflict using ONLY the system designed, owned and operated by your enemy.
Fear directs our attention to the suspicions and unknows of secret bio-electronic “maybe” threats, and AWAY from the actual coups d’état : which is the direct takeover of the entire population’s primary means of high speed-distance communications.
So yeah, pop the old cell phone into the microwave Faraday Cage, and while you’re at it might as well go ahead and give it 15 minutes or so on the ‘High’ setting, because insofar as revolutions and uprisings are concerned) that’s about how useful the device will be after Oct 4.
The line that each person draws is a deeply personal choice and for most of us involves much serious grappling with all of the many factors. Stating the questions outright, and clearly, seems to help.
So I guess that the most pertinent question to ask is whether each one of us as individuals is going to wait until the unacceptable consequences actually ARRIVE, or if we can some way or other stop those consequences BEFORE they land on one’s PERSONAL doorstep and we are forced by factual circumstances to decide , “Nope. That is unacceptable, and I say NO, that is not going to happen in THIS place, and especially not at THIS time.”
@FigmundSrued
That was a fascinating video, for at least two BIG reasons. First is that their financial analysis was exquisitely accurate, and their predictions just inescapable. Yup, the money world is headed for an unprecedented collision of fact vs fiction. No doubt about it, and for the reasons stated.
But the second BIG reason (conspicuous in its absence from the conversation) was the one that gobsmacked me. Neither of these guys gave explicit voice to the fact that the crisis in money/commerce is both superseded and replicated by the crisis in spirituality and wisdom. In fact, I’m pretty sure (from listening to them closely) that the two of ’em were simply unaware of it. They actually do not see any “layers” of the onion above the materialist layer that they’re fixated on. . . . . and yet it is testimony to their intelligence that they understand the layer that they’re on pretty damned well.
Somebody needs to inform them that the abstraction known as “wealth” has deeper meanings that are not merely far more important than “money”, but which fully explain how and why the money world got so screwed up in the first place.
I notice that New York City is suffering the consequences of being a Sanctuary City and that the gen pop in that fair Camelot are beginning to really notice what consequence feels like, and object to it strongly.
Of course the folks to whom they are expressing those objections are the self-same criminal lunatics who the self-same gen pop voted into office quite some time ago and have tolerated from way back then all the way up until now (and will probably tolerate for a little while longer, too …… but not very much longer.)
I also couldn’t help but notice the broadly displayed schadenfreude at their predicament, along with the unexpressed attitude (especially among the more ardent conservatives) of “Hurrah and Alleluia! You had it comin’ to ya!”
Well, yes and no. In point of plain and incontestable fact the vast, vast, VAST majority of that gen pop have done nothing wrong in that regard except get on with their own lives for day after day, year after year, for generations,while letting other people get on with theirs in the same way. For the most part, and for most of them, their only failure has been a failure to predict consequences, and EVERYBODY has just got to know that predicting consequences is a helluva lot of thankless and time consuming HARD WORK that is very very hard to get right.
Cut them some slack! The VAST majority of them haven’t done anything worse they you have…. truly! ….. so don’t be happy when they suffer!! Help the poor bastards. Help them with all of the mercy and good will that you better hope strangers treat you with when YOUR “unintended” consequences come back around to bite YOUR ass. And don’t think they aren’t coming around, buddy, because they sure as hell ARE.
That civilization crashing down around your ears is YOURS. When it is all total wreckage you (me, we, all of us) are going to be right there in the middle of it. If that ain’t a consequence then will somebody kindly tell me what is?
So let’s skip most of that “evil joy”* [see * below] and get back to work. Keep telling people what the consequences are going to be if they keep fucking up like they have been. And don’t let that mirror-mirror-on-the-wall get too far away from your field of view while you’re at it.
* [ the etymology of the schadenfreude. The word is derived from the ancient Greek “epi” (meaning upon); “kharis” (meaning joy) and “kakos” (meaning evil)]The world is phenomenal, while we , on the other hand (ironic pun intentional) tend to be be more or less noumenal in our nature. This noumenal phenomenon has led to a lot of discussion and argument, but the fact remains, and so the conversation continues.
I’m just hanging around because I reckon that having sat through the movie this long (big investment) I might as well stay for the exciting conclusion. Besides, it’s the only show in town.
So glad that no one called me on getting the 2024 US election date wrong by a full calendar year. Embarrassment.
I hope your duckies are nicely in a row because the curtain has risen on TEOTWAWKI, Act III, and shit is hitting the fan all around the world as the rubber finally meets the road. The battle lines were drawn over 8 years ago when Donald Trump’s surprise victory rather minimally disrupted the flow of blood money within the Cabal (that we sarcastically refer to as Earth’s so-called “Civilization”). It might seem a small thing, but even that tiny hiccup was enough to send dominoes to falling in far flung places, because the entire putrid edifice survives day-to-day, each and every day, only by inventing enough false money NOW to pay for the bribes, blackmail, extortion, censorship, coercion and MURDERS that their tomorrow’s survival depends on. The grift pays for the graft, and without it the vitally necessary crimes simply cannot be committed or maintained in sufficient quantity to keep it all going….. and therefore it begins to fail, and then fail faster as the free money starts going away.
Call that small miracle a glitch in the matrix or an act of God, as you choose, but in either case there is no denying that it triggered a chain reaction of chain reactions in every other field of human endeavor, spanning (in aggregate) the entire realm range and scope of human activity. Information, History, Science, Spirituality, Medicine, Education, Psychology, Governance, and a globe spanning host of other crucially essential collaborations, which together comprise literally everything that we do.
And so it goes, and has gone, and will now of course continue to go.
The current American regime . . . . . . tasked by law with the responsibility for administrating the most important election in the WORLD’S history in just a few weeks (November 7, is 6 weeks from today) . . . . . . and CAN NOT allow that event to be a free, clean and fair vote. And yet the eyes of the world are so intently and closely upon them that not a molecule could be misplaced in that election without the fact being documented by, literally, ARMIES of their opponents.
Russia is weeks (at the most, months) from unconditionally vanquishing NATO on the battlefields of Ukraine, leaving all of Europe at its mercy. And by use of the term “all of Europe” I of course include all of Imperial Europe’s erstwhile colonial possessions (various African nations spring to mind). Internationally legally recognized ownership and true sovereignty of these heretofore captive peoples will change virtually overnight.
The publicly acknowledged fact of the Covid-19/Vax attempted genocide is finally breaking free of the ubiquitous censorship (an enormous crime on its own account), and that deadly genii will simply NOT go back into the bottle. The truth of the democide is coming out and nothing is going to stop it. Too many people have died (or are dying as we speak) and so too many people care. MANY imprisonments and executions of perpetrators are going to happen.
The VAST (vastest in the world’s history) criminal hegemony of the US Dollar is coming to its ignominious and calamitous end. (and may all of its progenitors rot in Hell). Without that free counterfeit money the Cabal simply CAN NOT continue to bankroll its suicidally criminal operations.
Humankind’s brief and tragic flirtation with the demonic insanity (and utter illogic) of materialistic atheism, is also over. It’s end was always predictable, always inescapable, and always foreordained, because it violates the most fundamental truth of the Universe, but the actual END of that STUNNING stupidity, as a day to day reality, is going to feel and BE a lot different than the mere knowledge that it was coming soon.
Allow me to butcher a pretty good Winston Churchill quotation that he spoke after the turning point of WW2, and comment that this time we are not witnessing the end of the beginning of a great conflict, we are living the beginning of the end of a Great Tyranny against the human species.
There is still a lot of fighting and dying to do, but the end is unequivocally certain victory for the good guys and utter defeat of the bad.
Viva mankind. Long may we serve.
An open letter to people illegally entering the United States
You have been given, for no stated reason, the most generous offer that any nation has ever made to anyone, not even to its own citizens, and yet these benefactors are giving it to you, who are not yet (and probably never will be) even a resident of the country that is bestowing lavishly expensive gifts upon those who have until now done nothing to earn them or return the value of what is being given.
These things are costing the actual citizens of the host country billions upon billions of dollars already spent. That staggering expense does not take into any account the hundreds of billions more that is promised for the future.
These free gratis benefits include:
* Free selection to be a recipient of the offer (in other words, it is the gift givers themselves who search for and originate continuing contact with those who they are making the offer to.)
* Free transportation (for the majority, for much of the way) to the USA border, over vast distances, and across many national borders, with corrupt extortion often imposed on the most vulnerable travelers at each crossing.
* Free food, lodging, cash and other logistical support (such as medicine, legal help and communications services) while en route to the U.S. Border.
* Unrestricted border crossing into the USA, complete with paperwork that allows the illegal border crossing to be temporarily authorized, but with no limit on how long the temporary period might last. Threat of withdrawal of that permission will remain a continual lever against you from that moment onward.
* Free transport to any and all of the 50 States, and their numerous cities.
* Free food, lodging and large cash allowance (up to $2,000 per month) upon arrival in those cities.
* Assurances that immigration law (and many other laws) will NOT be enforced on you while on US soil. In some cases even drivers license, medical care and public schooling are made available, also free of charge.
That is an amazing amount of charitable giving. Many would call it an unbelievable amount. What is the reason?
Surely you must wonder why you are being showered with free things and services and protections that actual American citizens are not granted even when they pay for them (freedom from legal restrictions, for example, or unquestioned exemption from harmful hypodermic injections or medical quarantines).
There is an answer, of course, and it is a very vary bad one. The answer is that you are being enticed with almost irresistible bait to be trapped into a life of servitude, from which there will be no escape for you or your descendants far into the future.
Once you are in America, and living in total dependency upon the current regime for food, shelter, mobility, medical care, protection from crime and violence, then you will either do what that mafia tells you to do, or all of those vital necessities (that no one could live for long without) will be withdrawn. You will be trapped.
Your presence here is already being used as a bludgeon and battering ram against the actual citizens, by consuming their assets and resources that they have produced through hard work and sacrifice, overwhelming their voices and votes in public affairs, and lending the power of your sheer numbers to serve whatever agenda the rogue government chooses to impose on the consequently powerless people, who previously had rights and possessions, and now do not.
And after the government has used you to attack, vanquish and subjugate its own citizens, then they will do the same to you. The same and worse. Much worse. Just like they are doing right now to the helpless countless number of your children crossing the border unaccompanied every day. These crimes against children are almost unspeakably depraved and evil, and yet they have already been running for years now. If the United States government is willing and able (and it has shown itself to be both able and willing) to traffic your unaccompanied children as work slaves, sex slaves, and human organ donors, then what do you think that criminal government is capable and willing to do to YOU after there is on one left to protect you?
We all get our “facts” the same way. We get them from others.
We may say (or perhaps even believe) that we do our “own research”, but in the end , if we’re being fully honest, our own observation turns out to be just us regarding a fact, or thing, or “expert opinion” based information that was simply THERE for us to look at. We did not ourselves create it in any way that we know of, nor put it there to be observed. We simply find ourselves in a world, and start looking around and asking people about this place that we now find ourselves to be in.
Therefore it is both valid activity, and very important, that we know the most accurate estimation of truth about numerous things to the very best of our ability. In that way, when others look to us for confirmation of something that they think might be pertinent or true then we can provide VALID validation or confirmation, even if it is just agreement that the item in question is false or unimportant. It takes a LOT of such checking and cross checking in order for us to reach conclusions that we can have some confidence in, since virtually everything we learn is “second hand”. (I say “second” hand, but in practice the information has passed between an uncountable number of “hands” before we get to it.)
I firmly conclude, from what I have personally observed by receiving it from others, that this process of searching for actual truth invariably leads to the same good place. And contrariwise as well. Lies and falsehood go nowhere that anyone in even a semblance of their right mind would want to go.
The only way that the Bad Guys can convict Trump of anything is by publicly (in full view of everybody, friend and foe alike) is by doing to him PUBLICLY the very crimes that he is accusing them of doing SECRETLY. Indeed, it is Trump’s truthful accusations which make the Bad Guys hate him so much.
And yet they are doing exactly that, compulsively breaking even the most fundamental laws and morals, in broad daylight, because they are caught in the trap. The Lie Trap. The trap of needing to commit new crimes (and lies) in order to forestall justice being served for previous crimes and lies. And they don’t seem to be able to stop. That’s why it’s called a trap. It ends in death, of the very worst sort, for the offender who does not desist soon enough to turn themselves around and get honest.
This spiraling descent into total oblivion is not something done to them by others. It is done to themselves, BY themselves. Ironically, it is their psychopathic obsession with “self” that drives the whole ugly thing in the first place
Those aforementioned crimes against Trump (censorship, cancellation, coercion, robbery, unfounded prosecution, imprisonment and murder of his supporters) are the SAME things that they are doing to us on a much larger scale. Therefore, the same prognosis applies. And the same cure.
Serve your own interests best by serving all others honestly and well, and thereby assist them in coming to the realization that such behavior is the ONLY way out of the deadly Lie Trap.
Serve your own enlightened self interests by treating others in the manner that the prime author of existence wishes you to treat them. On close and honest inspection it is demonstrably true that such capacity, intent and action is the only thing about “you” that makes your otherwise faulty (and therefore unsustainable) “identity” worthy or even possible of keeping in the mix.
Those who choose to NOT do so (and everyone does indeed have the free will to make that self destructive choice) then the world will simply not be able to sustain their continued existence in it. It is the nature of this world that it can only sustain and continue that which operates in accordance with the laws of the universe (ALL of the Universe, not just the “touchable” and “visible” bits).
Those laws are largely beyond our faulty and inadequate capacity of understanding, but there is this much about them we can definitely know for certain: they are the rules which cannot be broken ….. because they CAN NOT be broken, no matter how diligently or how vehemently such insanity is attempted.
You win today’s Subtle Funny award.
I know exactly how rotten that is. It happened when a sailor dropped such an egg onto the grill in a crowded galley at breakfast time. So bad we almost abandoned ship (and we abandoned the galley instantly, en masse).
Additionally, and not just ONE “against-all-odds” collapse into it’s own footprint, but THREE such miracles in a row within minutes of each other and all at just the right political moment to pass the Homeland Security Act (cancelling the US Constitution, and facing certain rejection by the citizenry) that had just been presciently completed in written form mere weeks before.
People tend to have a hard time imagining (mentally modelling for the purpose of then using the model in making predictions about future actions and consequences) other people and things that are more evil and stupid than the evil stupidity that they have experienced or suspected in themselves.
Since the average person is only averagely dumb and mean that’s about as bad as they can imagine anyone else to be. For this reason they are sitting ducks for professionals who make a living from the practice of buying and selling evil and insanity.
Since the world is a marketplace of good and evil in which everything is exchangeable (buy, sell or swap) with any and every other thing when the price is right, these professionals seldom lack for customers and their line of trade is fabulously lucrative. Example: I will be an ally for you in business if you tell a lie for me in court. This will enable me to continue betraying the trust placed in me by my wife and secure loyalty from my girl friend, who I am lying to about leaving my wife to marry her.
There simply are no upper limits to honor nor lower limits to perfidy. It is ALL for sale, so check price tags carefully before purchase or sale, and if you can’t actually imagine that a human would sell the lives of all humanity then you’re simply not that evil or adept at abstract reasoning. All you need to know at this point is that there ARE such people, they are running the world at the moment, and one can only imagine what they’re being offered for the deal.
Well, you’re not really limited to ONLY your imagination. You could also read a little history to help fill in the gaps ……. but you won’t find it very encouraging. In fact, the more one studies and cross checks the record the more plausible the wildest of imaginings become. Well, imagine that!
The Five Stages of Collapse, which was observed discerned and written by Dmitry Orlov in 2008 is more presciently relevant than ever. I bet that your take on it has matured and modified over the past 15 years.
Good time for a re-read, so here’s a shorthand version (well under 10 minute read) also by Orlov): https://www.resilience.org/stories/2008-02-26/five-stages-collapse/
Sometimes it helps to get back to basics, and I think it’s getting close to being one of those times.
For starters let’s get REALLY basic on one of the big important things going on that has everyone in an uproar: Money and Ownership, both of which are closely related with all sorts of promises and agreement of many kinds, and especially with how well people KEEP those promises and agreements.
Let’s get even more basic. The material fact is that money is symbolic and in the physics sense of the word nobody actually “owns” any “thing” because things are just things, they are material (of one kind or another) and we could not create an ounce of material if our lives depended on it. We couldn’t even guess where to start. At the height of our greatest feats of creativity the best we manage to do is “rearrange” stuff that’s already here, into interesting or beneficial forms that might serve us better (we think). But that’s only when we’re being sane and sensible. Most of the time we barely manage to not make things worse, and sometimes we can’t even manage that.
The truth of the matter regarding “owning” stuff is that it is only through complicated arrangements of promises and agreements that we are able to claim even temporary custodial possession of a small number of certain “things”, and even that is not for very long. We “own” stuff for a brief moment and then we die and the trinkets becomes somebody else’s problem.
When those promises and agreements are NOT adequately kept then we fall into a condition (a state of ordinary reality) that is much worse. When we try to take more than we make we soon discover that we CAN NOT KEEP certain (often important) promises and agreements. That state of default can be as simple as owing money and having nothing to pay it back, or as complicated as promising to keep the nation safe but instead treacherously sending it into war to make a profit or gain private advantage.
And THAT state of affairs, among many other similar disasters, is where we are now. All sorts of IOU’s are falling due, and there is no possible way to pay them all back. Can’t be done. We owe quadrillions more than all of the combined “things” could possibly be worth even if they were stacked in a heap and appraised at double their real value.
In other words, the world, the entire world, is bankrupt. If an attempt were made to settle the financial debts, the sworn promises, and the legally authorized agreements we would run out of “things” to use as repayment a country light-year before we satisfied even a tiny fraction of the binding contractual agreements (like money) that still needed to be paid. Therefore, nobody actually owns anything even in the financial or legal sense either. ALL of the stuff that we believe we own is all wrapped up in loans that are long past due that are so incalculably enormous that the very idea of repayment is a joke. .
Those who still believe that they own things are simply not balancing the accounts properly. If they did that audit diligently they would find that they aren’t owners of anything. They’re debtors in arrears, at the bottom of an ocean of unrepayable DEBTS of every kind (money, promises, and agreements) who would choose to go to Hell rather than suffer a full review and balancing of all accounts.
The second big shock induced by these universal bankruptcy proceedings is that so MANY people find out that they don’t own what they need, at the same time that they find out that they don’t know how to get any more of it either. If there ever were a bunch of people who desperately needed a gift, that bunch would be them.
Some of you reading this may think that I’m speaking in a theoretical, abstract or even spiritual sense. Those descriptors might or might not be applicable in some cases, but in this case that’s not the way I meant it. When I use the word bankruptcy I mean it the old fashioned way. Money, promises and agreements are being called due for payment, and society as a whole has no capacity to make payment. I mean THAT kind of bankruptcy.
This is not a drill. This is not an abstraction. This is a prosaic description of the process that is playing out around the globe. It is a deep and wide bankruptcy and bankruptcies, especially on this scale, are shockingly brutal. It just HAPPENS, like it or not, in much the same way as a physical law.
That house, car, retirement account or cash stashed in a cookie jar. . . that we probably think of as things we own , are “ours to own” solely on the basis of the agreements and promises of many and various other people, most of whom we barely know exist. If those various other people BREAK those agreements (like money, or law, or oaths of office), for any reason, then we discover that the items in reference are not in fact ours. They belong to someone else (or no one at all), and when accounts are fully settled those assets become either worthless or unwanted or are taken away by force by more influential claimants.
So, as earlier stated, people own stuff based only upon the temporary (and faintly humorous) promises and agreements that others make, and few indeed have any idea of how to get any more. That’s because humans couldn’t make a molecule if God handed them the atoms.
Basically, everything we have is a gift. All of it.
The calling in of old debts has begun. Think of it as Black Monday on the planetary civilizational scale, and it is going to run its course. Cause and effect is the law, and the effects can get pretty big. Atomic war for instance, resulting in extinction of the species for example. Maybe the Bible (and so many other ancient texts) are literally accurate and Biblical style “End Of Days” is upon us, but in any case the end is the end.
I for one would very much prefer that it doesn’t go quite that far, but we shall see.
Of course (and with all of the aforesaid notwithstanding) there are those will not believe any of it (not even the banal accounting parts) without a Hollywood Movie version of an outright Act of God. For some reason, (probably unhappy childhood experiences or a rotten education) such hyper-sceptics don’t think of atomic bombs & missiles as acts of God, but I say that largely depends on how one interprets the old stories into modern understanding.
Some prefer to think that their personal possessions and material forms of wealth are special and exempt from the laws of Man, God and High School physics. Okey dokey. That should work fine until it doesn’t. But when it doesn’t, then (or a little sooner) would be a good time to review the record from a different perspective, because there is a heap of evidence piling up.
@VeraciousPoet
Thank you for the insightful reply. I re-read it three or four times and found it more and more encouraging each time over. The world’s a mess at the moment, but what else is new? We keep on mightily slogging through and it’s going to work out better than most expect.
@Oroboros
That motorcycle sculpture made my day. What is in the world depends on how you see the world.So the Governor of New Mexico has attempted to personally cancel the US Constitution by declaring guns illegal to carry in HER state’s biggest city, Albuquerque. Aside from being illegal nonsense her solution to gun crime is amusing for the fact that anyone abiding and cowardly enough to actually comply with her executive order was not really much of a threat to anyone in the first place. I mean, what’s even the point of having a personal defense weapon if not having got the balls to use the weapon to defend oneself?
As for those guys who defy the order, however, well they might be a significantly different matter. I would advise not trying to take their gun away if not up for a gun fight.
The deep archeological evidence contains a curious characteristic that seems to accompany all those long gone empires that seem to rise, fall and disappear like some sort of sociological clockwork.. . . big cities.
It doesn’t seem to have occurred to many academics that the cities are not any kind of desirable accomplishment but are instead a manifestation underlying disease and symptomatic manifestation or “signals” foreshadowing the collapse and dissolution that is right around the corner. The hundreds or even thousands of years preceding such Great Cities in various regions of the world (that is, the hubs of pathologically centralized wealth, power and control) are the actual society. The “advancements (not!) found in cities are mere evidence of Mass Formation Psychosis that thinks its a GREAT idea to kill children for “profit” or worship power and money above ALL other goals and values.
So who lives in cities? Pretty much everybody who sincerely believes that the “perks” of city life (like money, snazzier clothing and easy access to drugs and hookers are worth the extremely high price, such as living in close proximity to filth, ugliness, crime, perversions of all sorts, and ruler who enforce tighter and tighter and tighter control (as they sense their failing grip on power).
And who lives OUTSIDE the cities? All the folks who just won’t put up with that kind of shit.
As the insane forces of centralized brutal control draw their wagons into every tightening circles they eventually contract into non existence when NOBODY is putting up with that shit anymore. Sometimes the peasants burn it all down, sometimes the empire next door sets up shop for awhile until its their turn to disappear, and sometimes the local human society just take it apart stone-by-stone to build barns and houses and stuff that are more useful to their actual lives.
You can only herd sheep up to certain (but hard to precisely forecast) point, beyond which there are just too damn many sheep for too few shepherds and then, Blammo! The sheep who are for distant from the reach of the dying cities just go back to doing what they wanted to do all along, and the shrinking minority of ex-shepherds are forced back to having their would-be livestock ignoring them (or hanging them from lamp posts, depending upon local attitudes and conditions.
I just hope no one interrupts Act III with an A-Bomb. That could REALLY slow down the recycling process.
Shucks! Just when yesterday’s conversation was starting to get really interesting the clock struck midnight and I turned back into a pumpkin (or something) and had to stop thinking and start sleeping. Several good points had been raised, however, so before today gets rolling in a different (yet oft-revisited) direction there were a few points I wanted to reply to.
But first a note for @VeraciousPoet.
DBS, you should really learn how to use/B-Quote…
The lack thereof makes your response(s) look quite unreadably suspect, ridiculously so .
But not quite as wrenching as the confirmation bias of the borderline personality you’re responding to, which I won’t even bother with…”What you say is true to a certain extent, but presents no solution to my problem (or to yours either, for that matter) because I have already learned how to use the block quote function quite adequately, just as I have learned and honed my ability to spell and express myself through the written word. Unfortunately I continue to occasionally fail on both accounts. Too often, you might say. Too bad, I reply. In other words, cut me some slack. We’re mostly old geezers around here. If you will forgive me a few typos and procedural errors I will attempt to forgive your grumpy nit-picking. Incidentally, my ideas might be “ridiculous”, but not my keyboarding. My typing and computer skills are simply pathetic . . . and virtually guaranteed no matter how hard I continue to attempt better. It’s the thought that counts.
The case reminds me of one particular reader of a small weekly news mag I published back in the day (in a remote area that lacked easy access to any form of news other than face to face gossip, even telephones.) Most of my fans and critics read the rag for content and opinions, but not Barbara. She read it for grammar and punctuation. Every week on the day after publication, Barbara would drop me a brief note containing a polite list of every single mistake. I never was much of a geek or typist, but she was one hell of a tenacious (and accurate) proof-reader.
In regard to confirmation bias and the alleged borderline personality disorder of my worthy antagonist @aspnaz I subscribe to a different (and I would say much more productive) approach than yours. Rather than write him off or ignore his comments altogether I respectfully (most of the time, unless I’m feeling frisky) and carefully read and consider everything he has to say. When he’s wrong I am able to refute his errors and strengthen the cause of rightiousness, and when he’s right I’m able to correct my own, and thereby ascend even closer to sublime perfection. He’s an intelligent guy, which both makes his criticism worth reading AND explains why he is so frequently mistaken. He falls in love with his own abstract reasoning skills and thus fails to notice that his assumptions and/or obtained information are false and have led him astray.
For example, his assumption (based on the widely observed and awful manifestations of human folly and crime), that people are obviously irremediably flawed and must therefore either be corrected by outside forces or given up on as a lost cause. That’s simply wrong. People can NOT be corrected by outside forces, and there is no point in considering them a lost cause because the human condition (our own included) is the ONLY cause that we are (or even can be) aware of. In other words, we are each one of us STUCK with the inescapable and irrefutable fact that the only awareness we can ever have is the awareness that we have. We can bump it up or dumb it down but it’s the only game in town.
As for how that happens (awareness and right behavior improved by going “up”, or awareness and right behavior degraded by going “down”) that is a very important thing to know. Basically we do it to ourselves, frequently with assistance or impedence from others. We want to HAVE an experience (for example a pleasant sensation of some kind) but we are aware that to DO that will inevitably and invariable result in some consequence that we DON’T want (for example shame or loss.) We’re not so stupid (yet) as to not know about the invariability or inevitability of the consequence of the action which will yield that thing we want to have.
Our solution? Why we simply NOT KNOW (in whole or in part) what those “wages of sin” are going to be. Maybe we say to ourselves that the consequences won’t be that bad, or that we’ll do it “just this once” and then reform on the morrow, or even the laughably stupid idea that we can actually get away with it and have NO consequences. I have even gone so far as to say to myself that I’m just a bad person and DESERVE the bad consequences that will eventually come back to bite my ass. Nevertheless, the fact remains that ALL causes have effects, and that the effects are predictable and known.
But we really do WANT to have whatever it is we want to have and so we avert our awareness and just do it anyway. In other words, we deliberately lower our own awareness by “not knowing” what we damned well knew in the first place. Congratulations. One has just lowered their own awareness.
My next self-inflicted mistake will be a lot easier now that I’m stupider.
The same process can be done in the upward direction, but can be exceedingly painful because it involves taking responsibility for being the cause of the now regretted consequence.
I do not understand your thinking. We all know that people only behave well when there are checks on their behavior, feedback that benefits them behave better. You may claim to be trying to be nice to everybody, but we can see from human history that your self evaluation is probably bullshit as all people seem to be able to behave badly when they have an incentive to do so.”
I think that the reason that you don’t understand my thinking is revealed in what you wrote immediately thereafter ( the remainder of the paragraph after the sentence “We all know that people only behave well when there are checks on their behavior, feedback that benefits them [to] behave better.”
Not everyone knows the datum that you assert that they know. In fact, a sizable proportion, and me among them, instinctually know at birth (and thereafter until induced to think otherwise) that there is an important and fundamental difference between good and bad, also between truth and falsity, and they strongly prefer good, and truth, and fairness in the matter of determining which is which.
It makes good sense that (barring congenital malfunction of the organism) all people have this innate capacity for rational thought, because those are the skills which are necessary to survival in a world that automatically rewards error with failure. Badness is an error. Falsity is an error. Injustice (unfairness) is an error. These are fundamentals precepts necessary to long range success, which are equally true to both of the paradigms commonly referred to as either materialism or spirituality, because truth and fairness simply WORK BETTER (ultimately) than lies and injustice.
In other words, it is not actually true that, “. . . people only behave well when there are checks on their behavior, feedback that benefits them [to] behave better.” They behave well because that is their most basic nature, and behave badly because there are horrible consequences to violating ones basic nature for any reason. One of those horrible consequences is degradation of the ability to think rationally, predict inevitable consequences, and tell the truth when they should.
The only way people are ever going to be treated well all the time is if there are whole bunches of other people around them whose goal in life and main activity consists of treating other persons well. If people treat people well then oneself is going to be one of those recipients. Otherwise (like when there are NOT enough of such well intentioned people all around), then there will instead be more people around who more or less tend to treat others selfishly (i.e. badly) so that’s the way they can be expected to treat YOU.
So there’s the choice. To live life as though others were “worth” as much as we are (and therefore adjust one’s behave accordingly. . . that is, treat people at east as well as we would treat ourselves under similar circumstances) OR to act as though other people were worth less than we are (that is to say, deal with them selfishly because we are “better” than them in some arcane way and therefore deserve more than they do.)
So which way should someone go? Should people serve the interests of others as well as they serve themselves or should they serve others less well? If the choice is to serve and interact benevolently then one should use whatever gifts they have (brains, brawn or good looks) to go out and do that, and right now, because there is a severe shortage of such behavior at the moment. Furthermore, if that’s what you want to do (that is, to care for the people around you so that they too care for the people around them . . . which would include YOU as beneficiary, too, of course) then it seems like that is the only sensible thing to do.
On the other hand, if someone chooses to unduly gratify their own selfish desires at the unwilling expense (or unknowing expense) of others, then they should not be surprised at where it lands them. I strongly advise against such a self centered strategy because it goes nowhere good and causes unbearable personal loss on the way there. To BOTH parties.
The plain fact is that people use their gifts. And yes, our innate conscious awareness and volition are pure gifts. We did not make these basic capabilities and as human beings we do not know how we came to have them. At birth, we awakened with the gifts already in place, and just took them for granted through no conscious effort or action of our own, and proceeded to use them to accomplish our goals, or at least try.
Note that when people use their gifts of awareness and volition to treat others as well as they wish to be treated themselves, they thereby build a culture and society in which treating people well is simply what most people do all day long.
But those who use their gifts of various abilities ( yes, GIFTS) such as abstract reasoning or physical advantage to serve only themselves regardless of loss and harmful consequences to others, they build the opposite. If not stopped or persuaded to change their low down ways their actions would build a veritable HELL in which everyone would spend all or most of their time treating other people badly. Very badly indeed, judging from current conditions. Very badly, and very indeed, all of the time.
I aim the above described cautionary accusation at those who use their intellectual prowess (such as it is) to “put one over” on their less devious or cognitively inclined brethren. It requires no great skill, and certainly implies no superiority (quite the opposite, actually). Good people tend to be easy prey for such sharpsters, because good people aren’t selfishly trying to do bad things to other people all the time in order to serve themselves at the of others’ expense. It doesn’t typically occur to good people to spend a lot of their precious time thinking like criminals so as to avoid criminals’ scams. They’re too busy working at doing the right thing.
Nevertheless, and despite the grisly and predictable consequences we are actually encouraged and validated and rewarded (even falsely “admired”) for being bad and (frankly) stupid.
We are diligently trained from birth (at great effort and expense) by our covert masters to venerate money, amass wealth, gain power, promulgate lies, impose our will on those who would prefer that we not, and to basically use our gifts to benefit ourselves at great cost to the victims that we are stealing from.
Those who seek to instill those insane values in us as being desirable or honorable traits are the same ones who are themselves leveraging those literally Satanic values to strip us of every vestige of human decency, by tricking us into behaving like they do and even admiring the twisted evil that drives their behavior. How absolutely insane.
Ya know, those old professional intellects (some call them philosophers) sure did know how boil arguments down to brass tacks.
Take Voltaire for instance. He ridiculed God by drawing attention to the worst and most ludicrously evil deeds of men, and then sarcastically asserting that this is, after all, the best of all possible worlds because God made it and HE could only have made it perfectly the way He wanted it. Which He did. Complete with Free Will for all participants (because that’s the only way that it could be done).Yup. That’s the basic argument alright.
In pure hubristic obliviousness Voltaire reckoned that smart people like him could do a better job, and so set off the so-called “Enlightenment” that is now getting so dark that people can’t even see each other, much less see that Voltaire and his ilk were just flat ass WRONG.
Anyone who still thinks that pursuit of materialist sciences, to the exclusion of all else, goes anywhere but Hell had better wake the fuck up because they are going in the WRONG direction. But I’m sure they could explain the validity of their mistake in overwhelmingly “valid” scientific detail, just so long as THEY are the arbiters of what is valid.
Between the enslaved matter of material Hell and the insubstantiality of ethereal Heaven is a gigantic expanse where the two uncomfortably coexist on common ground. We call it the Universe, and if you want a place in which to play then you will accept it the way it was built and play by those rules. Voltaire’s snide insult was wrong. The fact of the matter is that this IS the best of all possible worlds, because its the only world there is that has you in it.
Anyone who thinks they can do better can have a protracted post-game conversation in Hell about why that didn’t work. I’m sure Voltaire and Lucifer could use the company.
The Maui fire news suppression reminds me of the Pizzagate news story suppression. Same modus operandi, and same insufficient result, because all that the news suppression finally accomplished was to drive the story underground where it spread (is spreading still) like a wildfire because of all the fuel, heat and oxygen. True facts are the fuel. People’s innate desire to live happily is the heat, and the resources being pumped into the effort to suppress and forbid TRUTH is the oxygen.
Everyone is talking about how long it might be before Trump, RFK Jr. and Tucker Carlson get bumped off.
Everybody knows that their assassination is at least a strong possibility, and NOBODY thinks that those guys aren’t taking an enormous risk.
So I ask ya, if there is NOT a Cabalistic One World Hidden Government with the power to reach out and snuff whomever they please, and get away with it absolutely Scot free, then what are you so worried about? If there is no secretive hidden power structure that could pull that off (for maybe the gazillionth time) then those old boys are safer than you and I are just walking down the street.
Let’s just hypothesize for a moment that it is the teensiest bit possible that it is true. Then what?
Oligarchs work within every known country in the world (and a few secret ones) to serve their own interests at the expense of the everyone else (outside that circle) in those countries.
These semi-invisible (fully invisible in same cases) oligarchs and comparable “behind-the-scenes” rulers usurp the collective power of those states and use that massive power to serve their own interests at the expense of the everyone else (outside their approved circle) in those countries. This is done using broken oaths, counterfeiting, bribery, blackmail, and murder.
They are, in other words, a de facto WORLD government, and specifically a “One World” government, to be precise. What I’m saying here, and as you already know, the much feared and warned against “One World Government” is not some future condition that must be avoided at all costs. It is a routine fact of your daily life, and has been been for more hundreds of years than I like to count.
The reason you don’t know that simple fact is that the self-same One World Government that is in charge of everything else, is ALSO in charge of the OFFICIALLY ENFORCED BELIEF SYSTEM that that allows you to believe it or not. If you try to believe what they don’t want you to believe then brother, they will move to CRUSH you in so many ways that I do not enjoy counting them.
Well, boys and girls, push has come to shove and the time is upon us when we must decide which side is lying, which side is lying more, and which side is lying the most. You life LITERALLY depends upon making the right call.
Is there God or is there not, and if so then what does God want of you? Whatever that is, then you better get to work pronto, because the end is near, and you can take that from a barely known raving lunatic.
As a mental exercise (just to keep the old brain cells revved up) go on a sort of Easter Egg hunt to find the biggest lies in our entire civilization. Here’s how to do it:
Identify the biggest and most powerful OFFICIALLY recognized leading institutions (there are many, but the number is small enough to be easily understood by anyone with reasonable intelligence). Now find out what the top layers of that institution ACTUALLY believe and ACTUALLY do to achieve and realize those beliefs. I don’t mean what they SAY, I mean what the DO. For example, is the World Health Organization trying to IMPROVE everybody’s health? If NOT, then what BELIEF do they have that is driving their actions? I Betcha it isn’t that the world’s population needs to go UP.
Anyway, you get the idea. You will find that the alleged truth at the the top of EVERY institution will turn out to be the biggest and worst lie that one could possibly imagine in regard to the civilizational “zone”
ruled over by that institution (hint: communications, news, and education are KEY institutions because they control so much of what people believe to be facts.)This is because Satanic Nephilists (under a myriad of misleading names and labels) constitute the entire executive management of every one of those “official” institutions. No exceptions.
At the end of the day you will have a very interesting list. What ARE the biggest and worst lies that this civilizations’ official institutions work toward around the clock around the world?
West using Zelensky’s Jewish heritage to distract from Nazism in Ukraine”
Just like the Kahzar dynasty is using totally fictitious “Jewish” heritage and bunk “anti Semitism” to distract from Satanic Nephilism in the whole damn world.
It’s not as if the distractions were sufficient to keep that historic fact a TOTAL secret, but I must admit (and am somewhat dismayed) by how well it worked. Frankly, I had always assumed that (since I was just a barely-above-average-dummy, and even I had figured it out) that there had to be at least hundreds of thousands, hopefully many millions, who also saw through the ruse.
Alas, it has not been so. Even among the most lofty there is near total fucking ignorance (and even rejection) of the fact as stated above.
The wise and well informed are ridiculed, and a total lie is held aloft in its place as the veritable APEX of respectable information. I am consistently stunned by how deeply rooted the lie has been.
All that is necessary to refute the veracity of that fundamental truth is to suggest that the well informed (and to that extent “wise”) individual actually BELEIVED the facts which were simply true. I’m sure you can see how frustrating that is for the guy. If he knows and speaks the truth then he is regarded as liar, fool or lunatic, and the things that he is trying to communicate to others are dismissed and rejected out of hand and without further inspection, because they are the ravings of a fool or lunatic and thus not worth consideration and CERTAINLY never to be believed as true under any circumstances.
And yet you cannot understand yourself or your role in the world if you do not know your own history.
That’s a tough nut to crack, but I keep trying and am gaining tons of valuable experience as a nut job.Hmmm. I see now, from other (bigger) photos that Sholz does have other facial injuries. I retract 3.2 % of my snide innuendo.
Check out the “Hathaway Shirt Man” eye patch being sported by Herr Sholz today there in Eurotardistan.
Says he fell while out jogging. Congratulations on controlling the clumsiness well enough to avoid any injury to hands, cheeks, forehead or nose. It was just that right eye. Lucky guy.
I must say that it’s been a while since the plague of black eyes swept through the leadership class. Nothing like a small (but tangible) demonstration of the futility of resistance to abject subjugation to whip the troops into line. Good old ritual humiliation. Jawohl, mein Führer.
Do what you’re told, Olaf. Next time it won’t be your eye.
P.S.
You just have to wonder who physically administered the discipline. Was it all ceremonial and shit, or just a quick smack in the peeper by some goon?If you tell the truth about something that the government has done wrong then the government will treat you as an enemy, but if you tell a lie about the government doing something wrong (for example, if you say that the vax is safe and effective, or that the dollar is strong, or that Ukraine is beating the Russians) then you will rewarded with praise, privilege, wealth and authority over other people.
That’s about as bad as bad gets. We have a government that literally hates and punishes truth and good, while at the same time lavishing rewards and power upon falsity and evil.
And make special note of the fact that I’m not talking opinions and theories. I’m talking tangible and personally pragmatic facts. We are all experiencing this inversion of the most basic human grip on reality itself. The ability to tell true from false in order to seek workable solutions. True solutions work. False solutions fail, and our government has made truth illegal.
Am I exaggerating or overstating the case for dramatic purposes? Well, no, actually. I’m not.
I am, if anything, actually understating the self-evident fact that major factions (in some cases RULING factions, like in America and Europe) of every government large and small, at all levels, is intensively dedicated to the complete elimination of truths, and the replacement of those facts with absolute lies, obfuscation and and evilly purposeful deceit.
This is no small thing. because ultimately such a purpose is far worse, even, than being anti-human or anti-life. It is in the category of anti-EXISTENCE, because the the extant Universe as created by SOME sort of originating intelligence, is what truth IS. To be against THAT is to be against existence itself.
As an additional (but important) note. Long before America becomes a toothless charity case to the world the nationalistic faction within its borders (like Trump or other like him) will depose the weakened idiots inside the Beltway and turn America back into a normal country that can co-exist (relatively peacefully) with other nations in a multi polar world.
Or else (as Putin said a few months ago) a few depraved monsters die and go to Hell, and the rest of us die and go to Heaven.
