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  • in reply to: Debt Rattle February 21 2023 #129561
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    Regarding dioxins from the Ohio train fire, Newsweek reported today that “the EPA has so far not stated publicly whether it was monitoring for them.”

    https://www.newsweek.com/ohio-train-derailment-fire-pollutants-dioxins-furans-concern-1782778

    in reply to: Debt Rattle February 21 2023 #129549
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    “Once the immediate shock of the Ohio incident has passed, no doubt much of the focus will be on the inevitable litigation – particularly when the cost of treating all of those additional cancers becomes clear.” (from “Expect More of This” article at The Consciousness of Sheep .co.uk)

    The costs won’t be clear for decades, if at all. The latency period for the resulting cancers can be 15 years or more.

    In 1976, a chemical plant malfunctioned in northern Italy, and a cloud of gas including dioxin was released (the Seveso disaster). Animals started dying. “After the incident, ICMESA initially refused to admit that the dioxin release had occurred. At least a week passed before a public statement was issued that dioxin had been emitted, and another week passed before an evacuation began.” (Wikipedia)

    Fifteen years after the accident, mortality among men in high-exposure zones A (804 inhabitants) and B (5,941 inhabitants) increased from all cancers (rate ratio (RR) = 1.3, 95% confidence interval (CI): 1.0, 1.7), rectal cancer (RR = 2.4, 95% CI: 1.2, 4.6), and lung cancer (RR = 1.3, 95% CI: 1.0, 1.7), with no latency-related pattern for rectal or lung cancer. An excess of lymphohemopoietic neoplasms was found in both genders (RR = 1.7, 95% CI: 1.2, 2.5). Hodgkin’s disease risk was elevated in the first 10-year observation period (RR = 4.9, 95% CI: 1.5, 16.4), whereas the highest increase for non-Hodgkin’s lymphoma (RR = 2.8, 95% CI: 1.1, 7.0) and myeloid leukemia (RR = 3.8, 95% CI: 1.2, 12.5) occurred after 15 years. No soft tissue sarcoma cases were found in these zones (0.8 expected). An overall increase in diabetes was reported, notably among women (RR = 2.4, 95% CI: 1.2, 4.6). Chronic circulatory and respiratory diseases were moderately increased, suggesting a link with accident-related stressors and chemical exposure. Results support evaluation of dioxin as carcinogenic to humans and corroborate the hypotheses of its association with other health outcomes, including cardiovascular- and endocrine-related effects.

    Health Effects of Dioxin Exposure: A 20-Year Mortality Study
    https://academic.oup.com/aje/article/153/11/1031/64538

    in reply to: Debt Rattle February 20 2023 #129482
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    @ John Day

    The video shows the air dispersion starting Feb 4, the morning after the 9pm train crash. More than half of the video happens before the controlled burn of the vinyl chloride on Feb 6.

    Before the controlled burn, the burning train cars included four hopper cars loaded with PVC pellets. I saw a comment somewhere saying that this amounts to 1 million pounds of PVC in the fire. This didn’t get much attention because PVC is not considered a hazardous material to transport. But guess what, when PVC is burned, especially in an open fire instead of a special incinerator, it’s a major source of dioxins in the environment.

    The train manifest from the EPA shows that four hopper cars loaded with PVC (“Polyvinyl”) were actually in the fire:
    https://response.epa.gov/sites/15933/files/TRAIN%2032N%20-%20EAST%20PALESTINE%20-%20derail%20list%20Norfolk%20Southern%20document.pdf



    HYSPLIT Air Dispersion model depicting the potential transport of chemical plumes from Ohio disaster

    in reply to: Debt Rattle February 20 2023 #129473
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    @ Polemos, thanks for the NAC info a few days ago.

    @ John Day
    This image was posted here at TAE a few days ago (from Twitter), here it is shown from another site, which also has a video showing changes from Feb 4 to 7


    NOAA Hysplit Model Particle Cross-Sections
    https://strangesounds.org/2023/02/ohio-disaster-cover-up-noaa-removes-two-images-of-hysplit-models-from-their-article-here-they-are.html

    in reply to: Debt Rattle February 18 2023 #129348
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    T Bear: “…things that countered the effects of mRNA injections …”

    A combination of of bromelain (an enzyme found in pineapples) and Acetylcysteine (also known as N-acetylcysteine or NAC) was found to disrupt the spike protein, via “breakage of glycosidic linkages and disulfide bonds.”

    Bromelain and Acetylcysteine (BromAc) has synergistic action against glycoproteins by breakage of glycosidic linkages and disulfide bonds. We sought to determine the effect of BromAc on the spike and envelope proteins and its potential to reduce infectivity in host cells. Recombinant spike and envelope SARS-CoV-2 proteins were disrupted by BromAc. Spike and envelope protein disulfide bonds were reduced by Acetylcysteine. In in vitro whole virus culture of both wild-type and spike mutants, SARS-CoV-2 demonstrated a concentration-dependent inactivation from BromAc treatment but not from single agents.

    The Combination of Bromelain and Acetylcysteine (BromAc) Synergistically Inactivates SARS-CoV-2
    https://www.mdpi.com/1999-4915/13/3/425

    in reply to: Debt Rattle February 15 2023 #129129
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    • Palestine, Ohio Train Wreck: It’s The Dioxin (Coppolino)

    Yes, burning PVC or vinyl chloride is really bad news, since if it’s burned somewhere other than at a specially designed incinerator, the incomplete combustion will create dioxin, furans, etc.

    Dioxins are called persistent organic pollutants (POPs), meaning they take a long time to break down once they are in the environment. Dioxins are highly toxic and can cause cancer, reproductive and developmental problems, damage to the immune system, and can interfere with hormones.

    https://www.epa.gov/dioxin/learn-about-dioxin

    Looking for some information about why the vinyl choloride monomer (VCM) was being transported by rail like that in the first place, instead of it being turned into stable PVC at its origin site, I found some related comments on reddit (r/ChemicalEngineering) which seem to be deleted now, but are still cached.

    The explanation given was that most PVC manufacturing sites make the VCM themselves before turning it into PVC, but there are still a few PVC manufacturing sites which get their VCM supply by rail.

    Question on reddit r/Chemical Engineering:
    While all this is true, it does not answer the original question of why the VCM was being shipped and not polymerized at the site where it was created. Having studied this process a good bit in school, I was taught you want to store as little VCM as possible and turn it into PVC ASAP.

    Reply:
    This is the case for most PVC producers. Basically the whole chlorine chain, starting from brine and ending up with PVC (along with chlorine, caustic, VCM and other smaller streams). However, there are a few sites in US, mostly built in the 60s/70s, that are only PVC manufacturing that rely on VCM supply via rail. I worked at one of those sites for a little over 7 years. Every drop of VCM that plant has processed has been provided via rail since then. That particular site was picked for a PVC plant due to cheaper and easy access to “good” water and lower labor costs. What was true when plant was built is still true today, good profit even with relying on rail.

    Another comment, about preventing such disasters:
    Think of it like a flare. In the industry, if an overpressurized vessel didn’t have a safety valve dumping the excess material causing overpressure to the flare system which burns it gradually, the vessel would explode. Similarly, here, instead of letting it explode by itself, they lit it on fire.

    That being said, IMO, it was a complete BS move that has absolutely ruined the lives of people and animals. We’re going to get a ton of cancer cases out of that place. They are downplaying it in the media because big business owns it but this is a Chernobyl-level event. It’s complete BS that they aren’t reporting the severity of it properly. Chickens ten miles away are dying in their coups. If I was the EPA, I’d shut that rail company down and liquidate all their assets to pay for all the damage and havoc that has been caused, most of which we are yet to see.

    From a safety point of view, I have the following recommendations:

    Rails should be inspected and should have security measures to make them tamper-proof. No one should be able to derail a train accidentally or on purpose.

    All throughout the rail lines and all the cities that the rail goes through should have fire departments who are knowledgeable about what is going through their city and how to neutralize it. The rail companies should pay for the chemicals required to neutralize the hazardous chemicals.

    Rail operators should also know how to handle those chemicals safely. The safety datasheets of those chemicals should be made available to all concerned parties.

    Toyota has a hydrogen tank that needs an armor-piercing round to damage it. It doesn’t get damaged in an accident. Maybe we need to use that type of MOC if it works well with the chemicals being handled.

    A train just doesn’t derail on its own. But that’s a political topic for some other time. Be careful about who you elect.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle February 14 2023 #129036
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    John Day: “Note that if you had any cryptocurrency financial dealings last year you have a LOT of documentation to file on your income tax return, or you will be in violation of Federal Law”

    My theory is that one purpose of such easy to ignore laws, like cryptocurrency transaction filings, or draft registration of 18 year old males, is for the federal government to have something that can later be used to pressure these people to ‘talk” if they might have some useful information about somebody else.

    “Cooperate with our investigation, and we won’t file federal charges against you for money laundering, or draft evasion. You wouldn’t like the federal prisons.”

    in reply to: Debt Rattle February 14 2023 #129024
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    Part 3 of 3

    Red: “What is this problem we are seeing with the difference to authority?”

    Another paywalled article says that when the American public doesn’t defer to authority, they generally support the ideals behind the rule of law, but they don’t believe the authorities are acting in accord with those ideals.

    Does the American Public Accept the Rule of Law – The Findings of Psychological Research on Deference to Authority
    https://heinonline.org/HOL/LandingPage?handle=hein.journals/deplr56&div=30&id=&page=

    in reply to: Debt Rattle February 14 2023 #129021
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    Part 2 of 3:

    Red: “What is this problem we are seeing with the difference to authority?”

    The following article is behind a paywall, but the abstract has some clues. I interpret it to mean that deference to authorities is related to the resources one gets from that system, and the ways one identifies with certain groups in that system.

    “the psychology of legitimacy involves both instrumental [resource-based] and relational [identification-based] elements”

    The Psychology of Legitimacy: A Relational Perspective on Voluntary Deference to Authorities
    https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1207/s15327957pspr0104_4

    in reply to: Debt Rattle February 14 2023 #129020
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    Multiple links aren’t posting, so here’s part 1 of 3:

    Red: “What is this problem we are seeing with the difference to authority?”

    Instead of the Stockholm Syndrome, I think it’s more about the issue of perceived legitimacy.

    “If a person believes that an entity has the right to exercise social control, he or she may also accept personal disadvantages.”
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legitimacy_(political)

    in reply to: Debt Rattle February 14 2023 #129016
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    Eat the mealworms?

    Besides the allergic reactions possible from eating insects (similar to dust mite or shellfish allergies), it turns out that mealworms require as much or more fossil fuels than meat, for each kilogram of edible protein.

    Then why are insects being pushed? They are said to produce less greenhouse gases than livestock, and require less space.

    although the fossil energy needed to mealworms rearing is comparable to or higher than conventional food sources such as milk or different meats, these insects produce reduced GHG—one of the main factors inducing climate changes—and the space required for their rearing is much lower than conventional livestock

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7952304/

    in reply to: Debt Rattle February 13 2023 #128977
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    New Zealanders are learning that they cannot rely on their digital ‘money’ or their government to save them.

    Gisborne shoppers warned not to panic buy as Eftpos services crash

    Tairāwhiti Civil Defence is urging residents not to panic buy as Eftpos and Paywave services remain out of action.

    Damage to a key fibre-optic cable means residents are only able to make purchases using cash.

    Tairāwhiti Civil Defence controller Ben Green cautioned there was not need to panic buy.
    Use what you have at home. Come together with neighbours and support one another,” he said.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/weather-news/300806079/live-state-of-national-emergency-declared-as-cyclone-gabrielle-smashes-nz

    in reply to: Debt Rattle February 8 2023 #128553
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    Chris Hedges is criticizing identity politics and “the liberal media, academia and social media platforms.”

    Identity politics and diversity allow liberals to wallow in a cloying moral superiority as they castigate, censor and deplatform those who do not linguistically conform to politically correct speech. They are the new Jacobins. This game disguises their passivity in the face of corporate abuse, neoliberalism, permanent war and the curtailment of civil liberties. They do not confront the institutions that orchestrate social and economic injustice. They seek to make the ruling class more palatable. With the support of the Democratic Party, the liberal media, academia and social media platforms in Silicon Valley, demonize the victims of the corporate coup d’etat and deindustrialization. They make their primary political alliances with those who embrace identity politics, whether they are on Wall Street or in the Pentagon. They are the useful idiots of the billionaire class, moral crusaders who widen the divisions within society that the ruling oligarchs foster to maintain control.

    Diversity is important. But diversity, when devoid of a political agenda that fights the oppressor on behalf of the oppressed, is window dressing. It is about incorporating a tiny segment of those marginalized by society into unjust structures to perpetuate them.

    Chris Hedges: Woke Imperialism
    https://scheerpost.com/2023/02/05/chris-hedges-woke-imperialism/

    in reply to: Debt Rattle February 1 2023 #128053
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    “Sharing adventure” seems so conditional. How about simply “sharing”. It encompasses joys and sorrows.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle February 2 2023 #128052
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    Imperious Basterds

    in reply to: Debt Rattle February 2 2023 #128050
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    The Plunder Years

    in reply to: Debt Rattle February 2 2023 #128045
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    Deep State and the Seven Moral Dwarfs

    in reply to: Debt Rattle February 2 2023 #128044
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    “After excluding approximately 87,500 people with a vaccination record, researchers found that those with immunity due to having recovered from COVID-19 had little risk of reinfection or severe cases of the disease.”

    The unvaxxed have little to worry about, while the vaxxed are still worrying:

    “We are all playing Covid roulette,” writes prominent environmentalist George Monbiot

    We are all playing Covid roulette. The next infection could be the one that permanently disables you. I’ve been hit three times so far, and feel lucky still to be active. But I’ve lost a little every time: stamina, lung capacity, sleep, general fitness, however diligently I’ve exercised since.

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/jan/26/covid-roulette-clean-air-ventilation-long-covid

    in reply to: Debt Rattle February 2 2023 #128029
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    It’s part of a trilogy.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle February 2 2023 #128028
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    Movie title with that cast:
    The Fall of the American Empire, Part II

    in reply to: Debt Rattle February 2 2023 #127979
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    “My religion is very simple. My religion is kindness.”
    — Dalai Lama XIV

    in reply to: Debt Rattle February 1 2023 #127958
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    I think that one path to happiness is to voluntarily be of service (on one’s own terms), and I think that Bosco knows this (with his sharing with homeless folks), as well as Veracious Poet (with his service to homeless dogs and cats).

    Spending less time here could mean more time to be of service somewhere, and perhaps lead to more happiness than was found with interactions here.

    Take care.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 28 2023 #127543
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    A more-nuanced view from Derrick Jensen, which happens to mention vaccinations.

    If our emphasis on production requires that resources be funneled toward producers, which seems self-evident; if the funneling of resources toward the already wealthy is a characteristic of a culture in which, as Ruth Benedict observed, “the advantage of one individual becomes a victory over another, and the majority who are not victorious must shift as they can”; if this funneling is also a cause of widespread inequality and insecurity, then it makes sense that our hyperemphasis on production leads to hypermilitarism. The rich have to protect what they’ve got, and take what they don’t. This is precisely what I observed in myself when I wanted to destroy the chicken-killing coyotes. An emphasis on production requires an emphasis on private ownership requires a means to protect this ownership requires, in the end, murder.

    You may say it’s crazy to suggest that hot showers are predicated on dams, nuclear power plants, hydrogen bombs, and napalm. I’d say it’s even crazier to think we’ve built these things if they aren’t necessary for hot showers.

    Although it seems clear to me that the two are linked—that is, hot showers, computers, vaccinations, major league baseball games, and compact disks of Mozart on one hand are tied inextricably to global warming, evolutionary meltdown, ubiquitous genocide, institutionalized cruelty to nonhumans, immiseration of the majority (“who must shift as they can”), high rates of incarceration, and NASA space probes on the other (not to mention the designated hitter rule) —it doesn’t really matter whether they are or not. Pretend for a moment that they are. Are you going to argue that compact disks are worth genocide? Or to take a “more difficult” dilemma, are you going to suggest that the wonders of modern medicine (available to the few) are worth the immiseration of the majority? To state these trade-offs are fair, as Grey Reynolds seemed to be suggesting, would immediately show that one is not fit to be a member of a functioning community. It would suggest that one has become deafened to the sufferings of others, and to one’s own conscience.

    Now pretend that they are not linked. We can have hot showers and email and a computer that plays chess without having any of the negative characteristics of our culture. This leads immediately to an even more difficult question: in that case, why the hell the ubiquitous genocide, the mass rapes, the biological meltdown?

    The primary link is not causal, in that my hot shower does not lead causally to the showers at Treblinka, but familial, in that my own shower and the other are distant cousins. Both ultimately spring from the same ancestor, which is the need for control, and a willingness to deafen oneself to all other considerations. I’m not talking about the simple act of heating water to pour over oneself: I’m talking about the systematic bending of others—human and nonhuman, animate and “inanimate”—to our will.

    Excerpt from A Language Older Than Words
    https://derrickjensen.org/language-older-than-words/the-sticky-webbed-machine/

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 25 2023 #127100
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    Some of the CDC’s misinformation about the mRNA injections disappears from their website, like the people disappearing in a photograph with Stalin. Image from Jessica Rose’s substack:

    https://jessicar.substack.com/p/the-international-conference-on-the

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 18 2023 #126474
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    oxymoron: “can anyone provide links to the bromelain nac study on clearing spike please?”

    “in the current study we set out to determine whether BromAc can disrupt the integrity of SARS-CoV-2 spike and envelope proteins”

    Abstract
    Severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus (SARS-CoV-2) infection is the cause of a worldwide pandemic, currently with limited therapeutic options. The spike glycoprotein and envelope protein of SARS-CoV-2, containing disulfide bridges for stabilization, represent an attractive target as they are essential for binding to the ACE2 receptor in host cells present in the nasal mucosa. Bromelain and Acetylcysteine (BromAc) has synergistic action against glycoproteins by breakage of glycosidic linkages and disulfide bonds. We sought to determine the effect of BromAc on the spike and envelope proteins and its potential to reduce infectivity in host cells. Recombinant spike and envelope SARS-CoV-2 proteins were disrupted by BromAc. Spike and envelope protein disulfide bonds were reduced by Acetylcysteine. In in vitro whole virus culture of both wild-type and spike mutants, SARS-CoV-2 demonstrated a concentration-dependent inactivation from BromAc treatment but not from single agents. Clinical testing through nasal administration in patients with early SARS-CoV-2 infection is imminent.

    The Combination of Bromelain and Acetylcysteine (BromAc) Synergistically Inactivates SARS-CoV-2
    https://www.mdpi.com/1999-4915/13/3/425

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 14 2023 #126160
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    Speaking of Rome, it’s impressive how Rome’s population fell massively in the 3rd century AD (the city lost over 90% of it’s population) and it stayed that way for more than 1,000 years!


    https://romabyrachel.weebly.com/the-timeline.html

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 13 2023 #126044
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    Re: piping treated wastewater/sewage directly to household faucets,

    I wonder if the treatment processes are 100% effective, and 100% reliable during power outages, at removing the risks from all those pathogens (like the Covid viruses) and pharmaceuticals (psychiatric drugs, antibiotics, etc.) that are found in wastewater.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 13 2023 #126042
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    On tap for Colorado: Turning sewage into drinking water, directly to your faucets.

    “direct potable reuse — the process of treating sewage and sending it directly to taps

    Colorado’s water quality agency gave unanimous preliminary approval [and later gave final approval on November 14, 2022] to regulate direct potable reuse — the process of treating sewage and sending it directly to taps without first being dispersed in a larger water body.

    Colorado to reuse water for drinking, creating new supply
    https://www.cbsnews.com/colorado/news/colorado-recycled-sewage-reuse-water-drinking-creating-new-supply/

    State okays use of treated wastewater for drinking
    By Ken Pletcher
    Published Nov. 16, 2022
    State okays use of treated wastewater for drinking

    On Nov. 14, the state’s Water Quality Control Commission (WQCC) members gave final approval to regulations that pave the way for treated wastewater from sanitation districts to be used as drinking water. The measure had won unanimous provisional approval by the commissioners at its October meeting. The WQCC is the administrative agency under the Colorado Department of Public Health & Environment that is “responsible for developing specific water quality policy” in the state.

    The process is known as direct potable reuse (DPR)

    https://soprissun.com/state-okays-use-of-treated-wastewater-for-drinking/

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 12 2023 #125984
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    Researchers are finding ways to deliver spike protein antigens to the immune system via food, such as lettuce.

    “Oral booster vaccine antigen—Expression of full-length native SARS-CoV-2 spike protein in lettuce chloroplasts”

    In summary, this brief communication reports the first expression of the full-length spike protein in an edible plant. The spike protein is fused with the transmucosal carrier CTB, to facilitate oral delivery of this antigen to the immune system… In addition, the spike protein will cross epithelial cellsupon oral delivery to the gut lumen by binding to both ACE2 andGM1 receptors because the spike protein enters human cells utilizing ACE2 receptor and GM1 coreceptors…

    https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/epdf/10.1111/pbi.13993

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 12 2023 #125927
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    upstateNYer: “Almost lost her grandson (in his 20s) from Pfizer. He immediately had significant blood and health issues – I can’t remember the medical details, sorry – but he now has TYPE 1 diabetes.”

    It happens.

    “Adult-Onset Type 1 Diabetes Development Following COVID-19 mRNA Vaccination”
    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36625174/

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 8 2023 #125509
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    @ upstateNYer

    I appreciate the feedback.
    As the waitresses say in Noirette-land, “Service!”
    I am here to serve. 🙂

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 8 2023 #125440
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    @ Red
    “Cardiac symptoms are common after the second dose of BNT162b2 vaccine, but the incidences of significant arrhythmias and myocarditis are only 0.1%.”
    Aren’t those higher odds than damage from the vid?

    0.1% is 1 per thousand,
    which equals 100 per 100,000
    after the second injection of the mRNA vaxx.
    (In another study, myocarditis in children was additionally found after the first injection of the Pfizer mRNA.)

    The CDC estimates the risk of myocarditis/pericarditis from a case of Covid to be somewhere around 50-65 per 100,000 for males age 12-17, which is probably overestimated because the number of people infected by Covid is greater than the number of documented cases of Covid, while incidences of myocarditis are less likely to be undocumented.

    The post-vaxx 100 per 100,000 “significant arrhythmias and myocarditis” may not be 100% apples-to-apples with the post-Covid 60-65 per 100,000 “myocarditis/pericarditis”, but the rates of myocarditis/pericarditis resulting from Covid are probably overestimated due to all the undocumented Covid infections.

    Moreover, the Covid strains are evolving to become less damaging, while the vaxx damage risks are only increasing with the additional injections.

    …myocarditis is a known cardiovascular sequala of COVID-19. The CDC estimated that among men 12-17 and 18-29, the incidence of myocarditis and myocarditis or pericarditis was 50.1-64.9 and 55.3-100.6 cases per 100,000, respectively…

    Furthermore, calculating the incidence of myocarditis after vaccination is relatively precise given that the two inputs, cases of myocarditis and vaccine doses administered, are known. The calculation for estimating the incidence of myocarditis after SARS-CoV-2 infection is more challenging to obtain because the total number of people who have had an infection is likely unknown and unattainable. Studies typically rely on documented infections, which likely suffers the flaw of undercounting the total number of infections because not everyone with the infection has a documented positive test. Thus, the incidence may be inflated and inaccurate.

    COVID-19 vaccine induced myocarditis in young males: A systematic review
    Benjamin Knudsen,Vinay Prasad

    https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/epdf/10.1111/eci.13947

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 8 2023 #125417
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    A study in Taiwan counted the high school students who got cardiac symptoms after the second Pfizer injection, even if they weren’t hospitalized.

    “Conclusion: Cardiac symptoms are common after the second dose of BNT162b2 vaccine…”

    In total, 763 students (17.1%) had at least one cardiac symptom after the second vaccine dose, mostly chest pain and palpitations.

    Changes of ECG parameters after BNT162b2 vaccine in the senior high school students
    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36602621/

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 6 2023 #125252
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    Peter McCullough wrote an article about that study.

    Massachusetts General Hospital, Harvard School of Medicine, had 13 young boys and 3 girls hospitalized with myocarditis and available for study. Yonker et al found all the subjects had large quantities of free circulating Spike protein generated from the vaccines while control subjects without myocarditis did not.

    The Spike protein they had evaded the apparently sufficient library of antibodies that were supposed to neutralize it. Thus, it is possible that some persons do not make specific neutralizing antibodies after injection, and thus, the Spike protein is able to circulate and damage the body, specifically the heart muscle.

    https://petermcculloughmd.substack.com/p/circulating-spike-protein-that-evades

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 6 2023 #125251
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    Re: [Germ] “Circulating Spike Protein Detected in Post–COVID-19 mRNA Vaccine Myocarditis”

    Some notable details from that study:

    Most of the vaxxed myocarditis patient they examined had spike protein circulating in their bloodstream, where it’s not supposed to be.

    And the spike protein most likely came from the vaxx, not from a Covid infection (as evidenced by no nucleocapsid antibodies being detected).

    One of the patients had increasing levels of spike protein detected at day 24 after the first injection. No data was shown beyond 24 days post-vaxx, so we don’t know how long the spike protein kept circulating in the bloodstream.

    https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/epdf/10.1161/CIRCULATIONAHA.122.061025

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 3 2023 #124971
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    Link to same FDIC meeting webcast, discussing bail-ins, posted at YouTube:

    https://youtu.be/0PtULsOtI2o?t=5729

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 3 2023 #124970
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    Bail-ins are being planned.

    This may be old news, but I just stumbled upon some video clips today showing part of a recent FDIC committee meeting where they are discussing bail-ins.

    “It’s important that people understand they can be bailed-in, but you don’t want a huge run on the institution. But, they have, I mean, they’re going to be.” (Time 1:35:29)

    I went to the FDIC site and found their link to the full video of that meeting.

    FDIC dot GOV:
    https://www.fdic.gov/about/advisory-committees/systemic-resolutions/agenda/2022-11-09-meeting.html

    Click on “Virtual Meeting” link to open a new page, then click on “Systemic Resolution Advisory Committee” (at left) to get to this FDIC webcast of the meeting:

    Systemic Resolution Advisory Committee
    November 9, 2022

    https://fdic.windrosemedia.com/index.php?category=Systemic+Resolution+Advisory+Committee

    in reply to: Debt Rattle December 27 2022 #124422
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    In fact, for most of the population, the health risk from coyote bites is now higher than the health risks resulting from the rats.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle December 27 2022 #124421
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    “Unfortunately people are now seeing that their pet coyotes are developing symbiotic relationships with the rats and actually protecting them so that the more coyotes you have the more rats you get.”

    And despite all the assurances that the pet coyotes are safe, a growing number of people have been hospitalized and/or died after getting bitten by their coyotes.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle December 27 2022 #124398
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    “Are COVID vaccines effective? Study shows chances of contracting COVID increase per dose”

    Big study shows the current situation (Sept-Dec 2022) regarding vaxx ineffectiveness for working-age people. The prior injections weren’t just ineffective, they backfired.

    A new study that followed over 50 thousand working-age people has revealed that far from reducing the chance of contracting COVID, the vaccines actually make it more likely that an individual will contract the virus. Not only that, the risk of contracting COVID was actually shown to increase dramatically in relation to the number of vaccine doses a person received.

    The study involved 51,000 employees of the Cleveland Clinic between September and December of 2022…

    There was an “increased risk of COVID-19 with higher numbers of prior vaccine doses” as illustrated starkly in the cumulative incidence plot below. People who had three or more doses were around three times or 300% as likely to contract COVID than those who were unvaccinated.

    Are COVID vaccines effective? Study shows chances of contracting COVID increase per dose
    https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/364787

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