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“that virus escaped…probably somewhere in the September [2019] timeframe…”
At least we’re getting to THAT truth
“I think it was done probably as part of a biodefense program…..”
” And they can’t be convinced others aren’t as slavish as they are.”
a modest proposal:
if you have access to U.S. National Public Radio take a few moments during the day and listen to a few moments of several programs.
i would have you note the tone of the speakers voices and the certainty with which they express their thoughts.i personally know several who gather the majority of the information they use to form their world view from NPR.
a line from Lewis Carroll to close-
“Why, sometimes I’ve believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast.” – CarrollDr. D
“Speaking of: I didn’t understand yesterday’s thesis on the USAF and the Labs. WHO are the players and what were their goals? Did they succeed in them? Things were suggested but not said directly. Could you repeat/translate?”
i know from publicly published video that “the players” considered the death of five hundred thousand children an acceptable cost for achieveing “limited policy objectives”. Are you looking for logic and the use of reason among those with that mind set?
“WHO are the players and what were their goals?” Those who hold and publish the concept of Full Spectrum Dominance.
“Did they succeed in them?”
Considering that there is now an overhwhelming amout of information about the effects of the bioweapon on the global human population i consider the test to have been an enormous success. I do not find a segment of western culture that was not touched. Education, manufacturing, supply chains, banking and personal interactions have all been stress tested. The physical, emotional and psychological state of the west leaning world exposed to the bioweapon have all been measured. The move of another piece on the Grand Chessboard.
No matter one’s assessment of the planning there is planning, and the methods and aims are for the most obscured. What i know from experience is the plans of the Military Industrial Complex rest on a foundation of disregard for life. Mine and yours. The design, purpose and molecular components of the innoculant administered to the human population is also a test and your reaction and mine will be determined and sorted by demographics. Remember Rumsfeld and the “known unknowns”? Is the weapon and the innoculant part of the same test?Full Spectrum Dominance, coming to the world near you. and bubba neither China nor Mexico is bringing it to you.
as far the the labs – if you were to tell me you know where the weapon was engineered i would ask you to pull another finger
since everyone has a BS theory about the bioweapon here ya go:
The virus was engineered as a bioweapon with parameters that would allow for controlled and specific mutations. The implementation of the project was assigned to the Air Warfare Command. The plan was innoculation and immunity from infection. Look for US Airforce Air Warfare Command posts and there you will find populations infected with the original strains. The first releases were the proof of concept tests. (Those who look at the mutations and assume natural selection are engaged in wishful thinking.)
Fauci, Eco Health and the other purported responsible parties are nothing more than compromised patsies. The DOD, DARPA management, whoever they might be, placed bread crumbs along the path to leave the impression of agency and departmental innocence.
The situation with the bioweapon is just another example of wishful thinking writ large. Those who, simple mindedly, wanted such a weapon were driven solely by their desire to possess such a weapon. Each segment of the US polity has a phalanx of ladder climbers with personal ascension at the core of their being. The yes persons in the DOD armed with intelligence gathered over time knew the yes persons available to move the hoped for bioweapon forward and those who could be easily compromised and used as a shield.
Those who implemented the immunity by infection desired the bioweapon so intensely finding the appopriate yes persons was all that was needed. The path to success, as witnessed in the culture of the US, is to insure that only yes persons are involved in the venture. One has to assume that the core group had enough sophistication and knowledge to believe they failed due diligence. Yes persons rise because they are yes persons, competency and integrity are anathema to their existence.
No one involved in the bioweapon fiasco had any competency or integrity. Anyone possesing competency in the field of virology and personal integrity was never a part of the process. Western culture has selected for yes persons since 1054 AD. The line of demarcation between the yes persons and the competent has been the poverty line. Are you at or below the poverty line? Probably not a yes person. Someone has to manage empire and keep their mouth shut.(see Stewart/Summers above)
Do you think that the reaction of The People’s Republic of China is based on information gathered from the western press? What need would there be to maintain information about the decoy in Wuhan when your worst fears are before you. Do you think, looking at history, the Chinese are moved by the western narrative or the will to survive and prosper?
All very 19th century – “Make it so”
“They need to be held accountable” – an example of fractal geometry in western thought, an exquisite Mandelbrot Set
guns for defense along with credit are a necessity and anathema to use
the banks are failing, the banks are failing, the banks are failing – September 2019, September 2019, September 2019 – the moment the big boy’s accountants noted the situation is FUBAR
“All the king’s horses and all the king’s men couldn’t put Humpty together again”
be generous and accept 10% of the western world run the show. 10% of 15% of the world’s population has the ability to control and manage the ecosystem and 6.4 billion human beings? i want to be tall and handsome, don’t see that happening either. DBDC, the full faith and credit of the nation. Almost everyone i know has historicall and present confidence in that full faith and credit. Charlie Robinson thinks his money is worth something and he is gonna loose it. brings Aykroyd’s repartee to Curtain from SNL to mind
“You know the nearer your destination
The more you’re slip slidin’ away” – Paul SimonBreaking News: The News is Broken
obviously the British guy hasn’t seen the Woody Harrelson vid about shepharding your expenditures. Big Bucks for tea, paid with cash, that’ll show em
no one seems to be asking what the people of the south thought would be the result of strip mining the entire US economy the way the garment industry was strip mined from their homes
“Home of the brave, land of the free
I don’t wanna be mistreated by no bourgeoisie
Lord, in a bourgeois town
Uhm, the bourgeois town
I got the bourgeois blues, I’m
Gonna spread the news all around” Huddie Ledbetter,Alan Lomaxin an effort to lend credence to a fellow’s reputation as an oracle:
for straight is the gate and narrow the path that leads harsh dissonance to lyrical harmony
my parents, our family, sacrificed so that six of my first eight years of education were within a parochial school system. As i entered into my freshman year at The Home of Social Engineering my parents were chagrined to discover that i had actually learned and believed what they had sacrificed to provide for me.
now fifty eight years later and fifty years of seeking and hoping to reach the straight gate i find that there is nothing new under the sun. Much to the chagrin of most i meet today i still have learned and belief what my parents sacrificed to provide for me. Seek a peace that exceeds understanding and you will find it, seek the world and her troubles and you will be rewarded. One is free to choose a path and express their experience, one who chooses another path will have a separate experience.
Pursuit of the world and her troubles following the tenets of THE BUSINESS of FAITH leads to bitterness. Hans Christian Anderson’s story is of course a metaphor for those who deny faith. Those of fatih can see those other lives and the reality they hope to construct.
“I do not pretend to understand the moral universe; the arc is a long one, my eye reaches but little ways; I cannot calculate the curve and complete the figure by the experience of sight, I can divine it by conscience. And from what I see I am sure it bends towards justice.”
Theodore Parker“Great, except no one will care. They’ve picked their side, POWER, right or wrong.” Dr. D
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Great, except no one will care. We’ve picked our side, POWER, right or wrong.Dr. this should be your byline, add a little Murrow or Harvey flair! (smiley thing)
Thanksgiving dinner in 2019 is an event that will not pass from my memory. Preparation of the Thanksgiving meal has been my gift of caring for my family for decades. In 2019 i cooked the meal solely from memory and recipe. My sense of smell and taste was lost in late September, early October, after recovering from the strangest illness i had ever experienced. After months of trying to determine what i had encounted and asking “what the hell is this?” the answer came in January 2020.
one might take the perspective that the total inanity of the NYT Nordstream strory is to give credence to the Wuhan leak foolishness. My personal intuition is Mr. Science and crew are some of the most expensive patsies ever setup. Keep your friends close and keep your adversary closer makes the most sense in terms of China and the Wuhan lab. Had the lab in Wuhan been the only level four lab funded by U.S. funded departments and agencies there would be the smoking gun.
When you have lived adjacent to a test range for sixty years you understand the U.S. DOD has zero concern for the environment or the citizens nearby. The citizens living near the test range are actually part of the testing and this is accepted because the test range drives the local economy.
“I feel blessed to be poor and work for a living…” boilingfrog
We have this in common. This is one of the greatest blessings a human being can receive when accompanied by humility.Today’s art header:
from Wikipedia – “Someone looking into a mug refers to an old Dutch word for a glutton, greedy for more.”to my eye the image is of the faces of the foreign policy of the US and Nato, gluttons, intoxicated with hubris and greedy for more
Polemos – “You also learn many don’t do anything because they are habituated to watch and take amusement in the situation,…” a clear eyed observation – good on ya
DBS – Norwegian, French, Irish Catholic in the other corner. Pahdner you did not mention the Catholic part in the region in which i came up. Some of the boys had special come to the cross ceremonies you know.
Germ are you a person of the Book or do you use another metric to define your identity?Germ, one more and i will retire. Do you think all goyim are ignorant of the Talmud?
what do you think someone might have on Sean Penn or perhaps who has coerced Mr. Penn?
being a citizen of the US access to the purported budgets for the federal agencies and departments is available. Should one follow the growth of the national security state some idea of the amount of dollars spent over the course of time for the associated agencies can be deduced. Take the period from 1961 thru 2021 and the dollar amount the citizens of the US were willing to pay to not know what the foreign policy of their nation was can be estimated. One of the growth industries in the US is self storage facilities. Self Storage of excess consumption, many items of questionable value. Considering the dollar amount spent not to know, a state of questionable value, and expecting the population to abandon the bullshit they have paid for seems a little naive and quite at odds with observable behavior.
Germ and Dr. D – We’re all Jews now. Perhaps: Some of the Jews are more Jew than the other Jews. Irony is not dead.
Gal Luft “has given information to the DOJ about the Biden family’s foreign business deals.” TP
most simple interpretation – “throw another virgin in the volcano”there is one thought that seems to escape attention rather easily, “and then they came for me”.
“Nothing is public because everything is a scam.” Dr. D
Everything is public because everything is a scam.curious why people think the most greedy and simple minded to be found have a greater capacity to control than the current crop of greedy simple minded humans.
Have you ever been in a crowd where chaos or panic ruled the moment? Your view of humanity will certainly change after such an experience. Telling someone else to “know thyself” is the chaf, seeking to “Know Thyself” is the wheat. The greatest threat to the United States and the West is the truth. Those who refuse to accept the truth about their own humanity are only a danger to themselves and no threat to the western status quo.
“whether we like it or not it takes five to ten years to build a fab and get it online for chips and such, never mind other areas of manufacturing.” Denninger
Five to ten years when the supply chain is in place, and all of the technical ability and resources are in place. There has to be a financial structure prepared for thirty years of in place investment with minimal returns. Or more bluntly, The west will offshore the failed economic system and import it into the west.aspnaz – “What proportion of the people in the west supports them? The governments do, but the people don’t, this is western democracy after all, there is no correlation between what the people want and what happens.”
“there is no correlation between what the people want and what happens.” bovine pasture enrichment, the candidate of the status quo has been supported and elected in the west without reserve. Let anyone gain a public platform and suggest even a “belt tightening” and see how the people in the west respond. “Do what has to be done, just don’t tell me and we can continue the nobility charade together”. I am amazed there are not more shoulder injuries from people patting themselves on the back. Tell the people of the west, “we must bankrupt ourselves,(increase our military budget), to preserve the current order” and see how the people of the west respond. Have a nation drain their strategic petroleum reserve to gain a fleeting political advantage and find the voices objecting on any grounds not political in nature. Murder children for profit, find the outrage. ‘We Think the Price Is Worth It’.
People can believe anything they want to and for the most part that is exactly what is done. People believe what they want, what is desired, is real. Perhaps Dr. John will remind us of the Eight Fold Path.
phoenix for your daughter:
the job of boys at your age is to ask to ask for carnal knowlege
the job of young ladies is to say “No!”point out that her friend is seen as the one in the cat bird seat and all of the others know they have no chance. Your daughter holds the gem in her hand and the value will only increase as she matures into the woman she will be. You cannot harass someone who is above reproach. Tell her there is someone she has never met who loves her and knows her value as a human being because she is my sister.
“The American way of life is not negotiable.” George H.W. Bush
How much clarification is needed to place this thought into current context?Formerly T-Bear i am yet to find anything on this plane that a human being cannot corrupt. When i was a teen my social statum used the pejorative WASP – White Anglo Saxon Protestant- as shorthand for hypocrite. i find that deciding where there is truth based solely on the text is more advantageous than discarding something solely on the location of the text.
Formerly T-Bear the following seems appropriate at this hour – ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.’
Dr. D: “The people are not galvanized to action. We’re just going to take it,”
The population, the vast majority of the population including corporate, are using the same metric. “is this action profitable for me personally?”. “Not profitable for me? Their problem, should have planned better”. My only duty is to the share holder – me!
Which term do you prefer?
Corporate Raider
Venture CapitalistFirst we sacrificed the mill workers, then the auto workers, then the information workers and now – ourselves
U.S. patrons – Were you pro-labor in 1992? Pro-labor in 1993? Did you mock Ross Perot and his idiomatic phrase “Giant Sucking Sound”? Did you ever pontificate on creative destruction?
by his own admission Dr. D tires of clarifying the obvious
not being flippant, an earnest interrogative from an old man
What did you think when the Reagan foreign policy included hostilities with Grenada and Thatcher had the Faulkland Islands adventure? What era found their entrance onto the stage and what did you think the exit of the era would bring?
What is your opinion of unbridled deregulation at this hour compared to your view in 1985?
consider these rhetorical, the daily conversation should continue without disruptionIntrospection: Examination of one’s own thoughts and feelings. Introspection is the key that opens the door to discernment. “Man know thyself”
Discernment: The act of perceptive insight. To measure information and assign value. Discernment is the key that opens the door to logic and reason.
Judgement: The capricious abandonment of information, utterance of an opinion. Ignorance wrapped in arrogance.
“Kindness is the language which the deaf can hear and the blind can see,” Mark Twain
Please allow me to join upstate and voice in the appeal to kindness.
aspnaz do you appreciate the reality of a mirved hypersonic glide re-entry vehicle? The fat lady is singing, maybe sounds like a Satie piece, none the less she is singing.
a westerner going on about territorial sovereignty
deleted my Ticker password – your forebearance por favor
Mr. Denninger (alias Mr. Cut The BS Now)
“He who lives by the sword, dies by the sword” , find the profit in that, SportGrow Up!
The cultural bias is strong this morning. Opposite land – We’re the worst, We’re the greatest. It’s them what done it.
A bioweapon was released, pointing a finger at this point is pure conjecture. Dating the weapon to the January 2020 date of notification is ignoring evidence of infection around the globe prior to that date. The Islamic Republic of Iran has no problem identifying a culprit. Crickets? Doesn’t fit the narrative?A Chinese spy balloon, a Chinese meteorological research vehicle. Pivot East, War with China in two years. We’re the worst, We’re the greatest. It’s them what done it.
“But how to create such a hidden government? ” – Bardi
The government is not hidden WYSIWYG. The answer to Fermi’s Paradox is greed, call it Baphomet if you wish. Greed driven systems collapse as seeking an “edge” supersedes seeking value. Once again call it Baphomet or call it corruption. Describe the level of baksheesh accurately and look at the culture and how it is limited. There one might find a limit to growth.Dr. D a little thought for today. Government employment by state and district ranges from a low of 10% to the high in D.C of 25%. Did not derive a mean by calculation i will just use 17.5% for example. Each employee in the government sector has a ripple in the environment. Statista has a daily interaction per connected individual of 4785 per day by 2025. I admit i roll my eyes at that number but that would suffice for an upper bound in the ripple. In each case the standard of living of communities with a larger percentage of government employment will have more incentive to maintain the status quo. Upton Sinclair was pretty forward in his assessment of men keeping their job.
Friends, go back to the first comment and read through as far as you are comfortable. An important piece of the puzzle my mother imparted to her children is “Measure the pond first”
The thought creeping up from deep within is: What are we missing? – boilingfrog
Why have we been looking the other way for so long? seems a more pertinent question. What do most think rules based order or full spectrum dominance means? for somebody else?
Oroboros, residential and light commercial planning is my mainstay. One of my clients, a residential builder, has three foundations complete and ready for construction and no incentive to begin construction. The combination of high material costs, industry driven pricing increases and interest rate increases has brought this boom in the cycle to a lethargic pace. Custom homes, my niche, has stopped except for the few for whom price is no object.
A friend, who does steel detailing for engineering, and i speak almost every Friday. The commercial construction world is slowing to a snails pace. The company he sub-contracts from is centered from Pensacola, Florida. The arc of their business is from Biloxi, Missippi to Tallahassee, Florida.
Dr. D.s perspective that the investment bankers led by the FED are pursuing a plotted course has much appeal. The rub is all of the tools in hand create a fraudulent environment. Fraud to heal fraud and the result is as your posted graph shows.
When the pen was first put to paper in the delineation of the Declaration of Independence, put aside for a moment any class based perspectives, the conviction that self-governing men could bond themselves together as a self-governing nation was a radical concept that ran counter to a millenia of modern history. A radical concept. The concept that men are equals in pursuit of a just nation was and is a radical concept. I am a radical.
Are you a radical?
Do you wish to be a radical?
Do you long for Animal Farm?One perspective to press disinformation might be found by having a look at the Continental Congress of the not yet United States. All we hear today is Federalist and Anti Federalist, and this was and has been the story line. There were states rights populists and federalists in attendance. Who owned and controlled the press? The answer to this question may be found in the first contest between Mr. Jefferson and the Federalist Mr. Adams. In support of Mr. Adams Mr. Jefferson was smeared in the press. “All the news that’s fit to print” appeared above the New York Times on an illuminated sign in 1896. Fit to a purpose and that purpose has not changed. Myths die hard and the romance with a fair and open press is born of a myth. Please remember the alleged words of William Casey in 1981. What was your reaction after reading “Killing Hope” by William Blum? What was and is the narrative in the press concerning Mr. Blum’s pamphet? ……”everything the American public believes is false”, how long have you believed in a fair and open press? Gulf of Tonkin?, Weapons of Mass Destruction?, unprovoked Russian Agression? Manifest Destiny?
“He who controls the spice controls the universe” Herbert
