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  • in reply to: Debt Rattle September 22 2021 #87812
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    @phoenixvoice

    Thanks for response yesterday Funny we caught Covid shortly after setting up camp along Lake Michigan. The beach/bike vacations are our favorites.

    I split time between a old Trek MT820 and a Trek Navigator 3.0. I estimate I have put about 15k miles on the navigator, a real workhorse. For MTB, I have a hard tail Rockhopper. Haven’t road biked much. Picked up an old Technium Tri-lite. The story behind the Tri-lite is that Boeing and Raleigh engineers were having lunch. The Boeing guys let on to the fact that they had a good process for thermally bonding steel and aluminum thus eliminating the weld. So the steel lugs/BB are thermally bonded to the aluminum top, bottom and seat tubes on this one.

    Anyway, love the bike, riding, fixing or reconditioning in my spare time. Picked up a couple dozen to refurb over the winter. Hope I get the time.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle September 22 2021 #87810
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    Spikes are Bad and Spikes in the Blood are Really Bad (installment 3 of ??)

    Installment #1 summary: There are certain factors, on the surface of cells, that mediate the entry of the spike protein. These have been identified as ACE2, TMPRSS2, Salic Acid (SA), CD147, cathespin B and L. All these factors involved in the entry of the spike protein have been shown to be expressed by the endothelial cells. Endothelial cells make up our vascular plumbing. They also make up our lymphatic plumbing.
    https://encyclopedia.pub/1397

    Installment #2 summary: Animation of influenza virus invading the lungs

    Debt Rattle September 21 2021

    The clot thickens.

    “Autopsies on people who died of the coronavirus are helping doctors understand how the disease affects the body — and one of the most remarkable findings concerned blood clotting, a pathologist says. Dr. Amy Rapkiewicz, the chairman of the department of pathology at NYU Langone Medical Center, spoke to Erin Burnett on OutFront (CNN) Thursday night (7/9/2020).
    Some Covid-19 patients are known to develop blood clotting issues, but the degree and the extent to which that occurs was described as “dramatic” by Rapkiewicz.
    In the early stages of the pandemic, bedside clinicians noticed a lot of blood clotting “in lines and various large vessels,” she said. “What we saw at autopsy was sort of an extension of that,” she said. “The clotting was not only in the large vessels but also in the smaller vessels.
    “And this was dramatic, because though we might have expected it in the lungs, we found it in almost every organ that we looked at in our autopsy study,” she said. Rapkiewicz’s study outlining her findings was published at the end of June (2020) in The Lancet journal EClinicalMedicine.”
    So, we are about 6 months into this thing, and they are finding that in severe cases the damage extends well beyond the lungs.

    Fun fact: According to Steve Black (M.B.Ch.B D.A. FFARC/P Medical Practitioner & Anaesthesiologist, Pilot, University of Leeds) The arm brain circulation time, which is the time taken for an intravenous injection [not intramuscular] in the arm [assume wrist] to pass through the heart and lungs and out up to the brain through the carotid arteries, is around 15 to 20 seconds.

    Diffuse alveolar damage (DAD) is characteristically seen in severe cases. Here is a schematic an alveolar sac.

    air sac

    Notice how the epithelium (air sac wall) and the endothelium (capillary wall) are simply one cell thick.
    Here is a video that describes the how this virus reeks havoc, not only on the air sac walls but also the capillary walls rendering them leaky. This would provide a pathway for the virus (spike) to enter the blood stream. Keep in mind this video made was early days (Mar2020) prior to Dr. Amy Rapkiewicz comments above regarding the autopsy evidence of clotting throughout the body.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle September 21 2021 #87753
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    @Boogaloo I just reordered. We burned thru most of what we had with our recent bout with Covid. A friend of my son’s had dropped off fire pit and was wondering how orally dose some injectable that he had picked up.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle September 21 2021 #87751
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    I think I got it. 1ml=1000mg. Since 1% solution then 1ml=10mg IVM.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle September 21 2021 #87750
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    Any comments on taking injectable ivermectin orally? Jokes are welcome too. It’s a 1% sterile solution for cattle. Cattle dosage is 1ml per 110# of body weight. I have a friend that is scrambling to find something before the next wave and it was the only product available at a local tractor supply.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle September 21 2021 #87734
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    Spikes are Bad and Spikes in the Blood are Really Bad (installment 2 of ??)

    Installment #1 summary: There are certain factors, on the surface of cells, that mediate the entry of the spike protein. These have been identified as ACE2, TMPRSS2, Salic Acid (SA), CD147, cathespin B and L. All these factors involved in the entry of the spike protein have been shown to be expressed by the endothelial cells. Endothelial cells make up our vascular plumbing. They also make up our lymphatic plumbing.

    https://encyclopedia.pub/1397

    In general, viral invaders have surface proteins that facilitate entry into the host cell. Influenza has two, HA and NA. Here is a nice animation that demonstrates how these invaders attack the lungs.

    in reply to: The Vaccines Kill Many More People Than They Save #87673
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    Receptors

    Spikes are Bad and Spikes in the Blood are Really Bad (installmentsd 1 of ??)

    I am more accustomed to the language of aero-thermo fluid dynamics and not so much biology. Basically, I am no expert and just want to unpack the why’s. It would be nice to have a Bob Malone to bounce things off of, but I think this community that Raul has created may actually be best.

    Anyways, understanding the spikes are the key whether natural or injected. The following image gives a good visual of what kind of receptors the spikes have an affinity for. More detail can be found in the link to this paper.

    https://encyclopedia.pub/1397

    in reply to: The Vaccines Kill Many More People Than They Save #87667
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    Thanks Doc Robinson,

    So In the case of the mRNA injection is it the instructions that make a spike or does the manufactured spike remain encapsulated?

    in reply to: The Vaccines Kill Many More People Than They Save #87655
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    “Treat Your Own Covid” blog probably saved a view lives

    Who do I thank?

    Give me Covid naturally or give death.

    I mean liberty

    Treat Your Own COVID

    in reply to: The Vaccines Kill Many More People Than They Save #87641
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    #12 in the should get vaccinated list

    “Defective virus design (s1 was never supposed to be free, inclusion of PEG was unnecessary and allows LNP to be widely distributed)“

    Does anybody have good links to info that would shore up this statement? I’m coming up bagel in my search. Thanks

    in reply to: Debt Rattle September 20 2021 #87614
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    If you look forward to and enjoy Dr. D’s commentary everyday, this linked article/interview has that vibe.

    https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/17695/hinge-moment-history

    in reply to: Debt Rattle September 19 2021 #87573
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    FBI at J6 event

    in reply to: Debt Rattle September 19 2021 #87565
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    Covid fog. not 2020 but 2021.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle September 19 2021 #87564
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    “Namibia then stopped distributing vaccines — they had used up their stock. A few weeks later, the sub-Saharan nation experienced a surge of cases,”

    https://www.pbs.org/newshour/health/for-countries-with-few-vaccine-doses-fighting-covid-19-is-a-race-from-behind

    When did they rollout vaccinations?
    April 2020
    When did cases and death start to surge?
    May 2020
    When did they have to pull back
    End of June 2020
    When did they resume?
    A couple weeks later
    When did cases peak?
    July 3rd
    When did deaths peak?
    July 17th
    When did the run on IVM start?
    June 2020

    “However, since the onset of the pandemic, there have been global claims it can effectively cure Covid-19. Some health practitioners around the world, including in Namibia, have recommended it to their patients, despite the Namibia Medicines Regulatory Council advising against it.

    The Namibian last week found that shelves stocking ivermectin in some Agra outlets nationwide, namely in Windhoek and at Gobabis, Okahandja and Ondangwa, have been emptied, as demand for the drug soared.”

    https://www.namibian.com.na/212489/archive-read/Namibians-gobble-up-ivermectin-as-Covid-cases-soar

    in reply to: Debt Rattle September 18 2021 #87518
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    That was just a test

    in reply to: Debt Rattle September 18 2021 #87517
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    Test

    in reply to: Debt Rattle September 18 2021 #87467
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    @germ

    Thanks for posting that interview, authentic and heartfelt. What will it be like when all the Deb Conrad’s are forced out? Seems like she has a strong case for wrongful termination. But who has that kind of time and resources to weather it out in a corrupt system. It just seems at some level, as you move up in an organization, a tin heart and a lobotomy is required.

    Yesterday, you posted an interesting link to the Swedish experience compared to other countries. The thing that is a bit confounding is the typical signals that show up in the data after mass injections. I gather most of the adult population is fully injected. It seems there might be a lag and at the moment they are in the calm before the storm.

    in reply to: I Am Afraid #87420
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    in reply to: I Am Afraid #87408
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    “For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms. “(Ephesians 6:12)

    “I get up every morning, take a deep breath and crack on.” (John the undertaker)

    Ominous interview, thanks for posting Raul. The deluge of misinformation today (sarcasm) is paralyzing and gobsmacking.

    In yesterday’s comments, Doc Robinson posted this article pointing out the virtue signaling from the school superintendent at a School district in San Antonio.

    “This variant is stronger than ever. It is more effective at even breaking through our vaccinations,” Martinez said. “Cases are in our schools, even with vaccinations, and we have students that are unvaccinated. Trustees, that is not a good combination for ensuring the safety of both our staff and our children.”
    “Under our leadership, under our teachers and our principals, we are not going to allow our children and staff to be put at risk. I’m sorry, we’re not,” he added. “This is not about a fight. This is about: we’re seeing what is happening. And so imagine if the staff weren’t vaccinated. Imagine what could happen. Imagine the spread.”

    https://www.tpr.org/education/2021-09-14/197-vaccinated-san-antonio-isd-employees-got-covid-in-august

    The only thing this type of irrational magical thinking is propagating is fear. How do we effectively combat this?

    In the 60s, the KGB learned that if you bombard people with fear messages nonstop, in two months or less most of the people are brainwashed to believe the false message. To the point that no amount of clear information they are shown, to the contrary, will change their mind.

    Interestingly, RT offered John the undertaker 85K GBP for his silence.

    Also, John Day weighed in with the following.

    “Thanks for that article, Doc Robinson. They mention escape from the vaccines, but they also describe the super-power of enhanced viral infectivity, and the virus is not about to miss it. I think it is already “enhanced” pretty well. The rapidly rising Delta peak of cases, here in Texas, was supposed to drop just as fast. It’s not. It is sustaining, with a big fat area under the curve. The vaccines have opened up a whole new population to infection, somehow.

    Repeating his observation: “The vaccines have opened up a whole new population to infection, somehow.”

    According to the WHO, the earliest documented samples of the Delta variant were in Oct 2020. The first documented cases first appeared in Maharashtra. It was reported that the last stage of the clinical trails for Covishield began in Sept2020 at the state-run Sassoon General Hospital in Pune Maharashtra.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.livemint.com/news/india/oxford-covid-19-vaccine-serum-institute-begins-last-phase-of-clinical-trial/amp-11600698691078.html

    So just thinking out loud as I am not sure how to organize my thoughts regarding the origin an transmission of the Delta variant.

    The Covishield is a viral vector injection. The variant shows up in the Maharashtra population shortly after the trial is launched. From there it circles the globe or is it just literally just showing up wherever people are getting jabbed (mRNA or VV) and it is simply being labeled as Delta. Soon to be rinsed an repeated with a new variant.

    If you understand the basics of respiration, getting jabbed and wearing a mask is a sure way move the toxic by products from your blood to your sinuses. So if some mRNA generated spike is spilling into the blood stream then the injected are the problem.

    We will win this.

    “And having disarmed the powers and authorities, he made a public spectacle of them, triumphing over them by the cross.” (Colossians 2:15)

    in reply to: Debt Rattle September 16 2021 #87330
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    @limeincoconut

    I think we are on same page. Not getting the jab is the best option. I was writing from the point of view of the aorta and a basic understanding of the lymphatic system.

    When I am at the pharmacy and people are lined up to get the jab I swear I can hear the aorta screaming “the right arm you moron!”

    I took 130 years to get a partial understanding of the mechanisms behind nitro under the tongue and the calming the heart muscle.

    I Forgot to note who (Raul, Dr. D, Karl D) but this was penned back I April and it still resonates today.

    “It ought to be obvious that playing parlor tricks on your body’s cells to produce the “spike protein” — not introducing it directly into your body which is incidentally the actual definition of a vaccine, but tricking your cells to produce it instead (and which has now been magically redefined to count as a “vaccine”) is inherently dangerous. You’d think that a decade or more of both animal and human trials, with very close follow-up on every single human so-exposed, with all of the data written up and presented to the world in public would be required to know if this sort of malarkey has unknown but severe danger associated with it. Among other risks doing this could result in cells in very unpleasant places (e.g. your heart, spleen, etc.) taking up said “instructions” and being damaged, leading to an immune response in a very bad place that could injure or kill you, or it might lead your body to target your own cells since by definition the cells that take up said “programming” and produce the protein are diseased. If either of those things happen then the very same thing that kills you when Covid goes badly might kill you as a result of the vaccine either immediately or somewhere down the road when challenged either by the original virus — or some other as yet not-identified stimulus.”

    in reply to: Debt Rattle September 16 2021 #87311
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    @DarkMatter

    Re holocough:

    The vitD data was compelling so I have been maintaining high levels. I tested at 90nmol/L not too long ago. My wife felt that she had Covid back in Jan2020 and I think let her guard down. She last tested at 50nmol/L.

    Fortunately, I did not think so and worked on sourcing the stuff for treating your own covid that was posted on this site. I also found other things that might be helpful.

    For instance, we did nebulized breathing treatments with food grade hydrogen peroxide. I used a 0.5% solution diluted with saline made from distilled water and canning salt. My wife only felt comfortable on a 0.1% solution.

    My wife’s kidneys are joined (horseshoe) and one side does not drain well. I think her kidneys were overwhelmed by the amount of white blood cells generated from her immune response. She also had excruciating pain in her lymph nodes and by day 6 felt death was preferable to what she was experiencing.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle September 16 2021 #87302
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    @ my parents said know

    Great illustration of the lymphatic system. Thanks

    “The largest collecting lymphatic vessel, the thoracic duct, connects the lymphatic system with the cardiovascular system.”

    The right side (green) does not have this direct interface with the blood stream.

    I’m simply hypothesizing, but it would seem receiving the jab in the right arm is the better option if you were concerned about adverse cardiovascular events with the safe and effective mRNA injection.

    But according to today’s first article. THE SPIKE WILL NOT BE FOUND IN THE BLOOD. IT IS TRAVELLING “INCOGNITO”. Then it really wouldn’t matter.

    I think the scientific community might be whipping up the next level of Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt (FUD) for their masters.

    If the following sentiment starts gaining traction in the MSM then maybe we will have to start injections in the second trimester.

    “The narrative that those affected are usually asymptomatic and have very mild or no disease may be false. Many of those who are asymptomatic may actually fall victim to myocarditis, a sinister, stealth-like disease, whose resulting disability may take decades to manifest.”

    This is simply messaging to create future deniability that the origin of future cases of myocarditis are not due to the injection.

    So the jury is still out on the mechanisms behind blood clotting and death, which happens with severe cases of covid and in rare instances following injection.

    “But others think the role of the spike protein warrants further examination. Michel Goldman, an immunologist at the Free University of Brussels and a former director of Europe’s Innovative Medicines Initiative, told me that unvaccinated people with severe COVID-19 have also experienced strange clotting events that mimic what happens in the heparin-related autoimmune disorder. He speculates that the spike protein could be the source of this problem—but not because it looks a bit like platelet factor 4.

    It’s possible, he says, that the spike protein interacts with platelets directly and causes them to secrete platelet factor 4. One mouse study published last year by scientists in China found that the spike protein could indeed activate platelets that had been engineered to carry a cell receptor for the coronavirus. Meanwhile, another study from December, not yet published in a journal, suggests that the spike protein can damage the cells that line our blood vessels. Goldman noted that these cells, when perturbed, are known to release molecules that bind to platelet factor 4, which might in turn become a target for rogue antibodies. All of this could potentially contribute to the symptoms seen in VITT.”

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theatlantic.com/amp/article/618623/

    in reply to: Debt Rattle September 15 2021 #87204
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    Tad long.

    Are you vaxed? No, I am vexed. That’s my latest approach and it seems to disarm the inquisitor as they feel they can help me with my vexation about vaccination. This way I can set them up for cross examination with all the misinformation I have gleaned from TAE, like a good lawyer…eh.

    Holy hell, oxy. I tend to approach this stuff like MLK. My wife on the other hand leans more towards the Malcom X approach. It just means I will be too late in pulling the trigger and likely dead and she will pull the trigger too soon and end up in jail.

    The Minaj fluff up the other day. Ya know, had she been a good sister she could have tweeted that her man got the shot and his wanker is so huge now.

    Anyway, my wife and I recently got the holocough. We are 56 and in good health. My case was very acute and short lived. I took HCQ and nutraceuticals. My wife had a rough time of it. She was on HCQ, IVM and nutraceuticals. She ran a fever for 10 days. Definitely impacted lungs, kidney and heart. Follow up EKG showed enlarged ventricle. She is doing better now. We have been riding again. She was able to do a 12 mile ride with me last night at about 90% of her pre-covid pace so that is encouraging.

    The experience got me thinking about the weaponized spike protein again. You definitely don’t want that thing finding it’s way into your cardiovascular system and reeking havoc. For this reason the injection has been marketed as the safer option. The case for the injection follows this kind of logic.

    “Most COVID-19 vaccines are administered by injection into our upper arm, away from any major blood vessels. Once injected, the muscle cells around the injection site express the spike protein, thereby eliciting an immune response from the body. A large proportion of the remaining dose in the arm drains through our lymphatic system, into the liver and then is destroyed by enzymes there. A very small proportion may ultimately end up in other tissues or the bloodstream. 

    Most people get infected by SARS-CoV-2 after inhaling virus-laden droplets from other infected individuals. In this case, the virus first infects cells in the airway, and then deeper in the lungs. Once in the lungs, it then circulates through the bloodstream to the rest of the body. This infection leads to significant damage of the endothelial cells of the lungs. It causes inflammation and inhibits much needed oxygen supply to our blood.”

    https://health-desk.org/articles/what-do-we-know-about-vaccines-lung-damage-and-blood-clots

    Here are some “preventionistas” raising the flag on unknown long term sinister outcomes.

    “Infection preventionists need to be able to articulate to those who feel that the young are safe just because their fatality rate is extremely low, that even in this age group there are major concerns regarding long-term consequences of this virus.

    Several recent studies have supported the growing hypothesis that coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) is primarily a cardiovascular, and not a pulmonary virus. The narrative that those affected are usually asymptomatic and have very mild or no disease may be false. Many of those who are asymptomatic may actually fall victim to myocarditis, a sinister, stealth-like disease, whose resulting disability may take decades to manifest.”

    https://www.infectioncontroltoday.com/view/is-covid-19-primarily-a-heart-and-vascular-diseases

    Back to this hypothesis that very little spike will end up in the bloodstream after injection. Does it matter if I get the shot in the left or right arm?

    The thoracic duct, where the two shall meet.

    In vertebrates, there are two vascular systems: the cardiovascular and the lymphatic system. To exert their functions, both vascular systems build highly branched, tree-like tubular structures. In the cardiovascular system, the heart pumps the blood through arteries into smaller arterioles and into capillary beds. From there, the blood returns via venules and veins to the heart to proceed to the lungs for new oxygen loading. Under physiological conditions, the major functions of blood vessels include the supply of gases, fluid, nutrition, and signaling molecules to the tissues with the capillaries as the actual sites of exchange. At these sites, plasma leaks from the capillaries into the interstitium, driven by blood pressure and osmotic gradients. The lymphatic capillaries take up this protein-rich fluid, thereby maintaining not only tissue fluid homeostasis but also exerting immune surveillance. The lymphatic network is composed of blind-beginning thin-walled capillaries without pericyte coverage and with incomplete basal lamina as well as of collecting lymphatic vessels with a smooth muscle cell layer, a basement membrane, and valves, which prevent back flow of lymph. The largest collecting lymphatic vessel, the thoracic duct, connects the lymphatic system with the cardiovascular system.

    The thoracic duct is the largest lymphatic vessel in the human body. Around 75% of the lymph from the entire body (aside from the right upper limb, right breast, right lung and right side of the head and neck) passes through the thoracic duct.

    While Fauci, Biden, your doctor or nurse will say it doesn’t matter I would probably go with the right arm if you are so inclined to risk the jab.

    in reply to: Pandemic Brooding #87084
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    So the other day I was chatting with a coworker that wants to be a forest hermit and live in a cave. I told him that I am starting wake up wishing I was born to Amish parents.

    in reply to: The Narrative of Loss #87016
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    Remember OKC bombing. Maybe you missed this one. Reporting of multiple bombs from local news outlets.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle September 12 2021 #86994
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    @DarkMatter, Thanks! How did you get the images to post?


    @thomasjkenney
    , did the brits quit. Lily Zhou at Epoch times seems to confirm England drops passport plan for nightclubs and crowded events.

    The peaceful protest tweet form France is amazing. Pray it does not come to violence.

    Replace fear with faith.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle September 11 2021 #86942
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    Earlier today, Mr. House posted a link to a money circus article that did some dot connecting of 9/11 Carbon nanotube fallout to graphene oxide in Covid injections. I guess a creepy conspiracy post is in order given the date.

    I believe most of us who read TAE are “George Carlin” woke by now.

    “We who see government deception cannot win the day with a smoking gun and a hurrah any more than they can ever conclusively defend the official lie.” (quote pinched from the article)

    “Is there any means known more effective than war, assuming you wish to alter the life of an entire people? And they conclude that, no more effective means to that end is known to humanity, than war.” (another quote pinched from the article)

    I remember a while back, the four horsemen entered the discussion thread. I haven’t figured out how to post images, but if you are interested you can pull up “The World in 2019,2020 and 2021” Economist covers.

    2019 (Vitruvian Man)
    2020 (Eye Chart)
    2021 (Slot Machine)

    The 2019 cover has the 4 horsemen (just below Putin). If you look closely, the Statue of Liberty is on the War horse. Is she wearing a mask or a face shield? Also, down in the left corner is a pangolin. Vitruvian man has a cell phone with a QR code in the right hand (digital passport?). In the other right hand are scales. There are other symbolic images and many rabbit holes to down.

    The 2020 cover is an eye chart. Hindsight is 2020? Refer back to 2019 to understand 2020?

    The 2021 cover is a slot machine. The world sits atop the lever arm implying a gamble on how 2021 will play out. Interestingly the Covid injection is shown with a green liquid.

    Back to the horsemen (referencing Wikipedia)

    The Statue of Liberty is on the second horse.

    The rider of the second horse is often taken to represent War (he is often pictured holding a sword upwards as though ready for battle) or mass slaughter. His horse’s color is red (πυρρός, pyrrhos from πῦρ, fire); and in some translations, the color is specifically a “fiery” red. The color red, as well as the rider’s possession of a great sword (μάχαιρα, machaira), suggests blood that is to be spilled. The sword held upward by the second Horseman may represent war or a declaration of war, as seen in heraldry. In military symbolism, swords held upward, especially crossed swords held upward, signify war and entering into battle. (See for example the historical and modern images, as well as the coat of arms, of Joan of Arc.)

    The second Horseman may represent civil war as opposed to the war of conquest that the first Horseman is sometimes said to bring. Other commentators have suggested that it might also represent the persecution of Christians.

    Vitruvian man with the QR code and scales in the right hand.

    The third Horseman rides a black horse and is popularly understood to be Famine as the Horseman carries a pair of balances or weighing scales (Greek ζυγὸν, zygon), indicating the way that bread would have been weighed during a famine. Other authors interpret the third Horseman as the “Lord as a Law-Giver” holding Scales of Justice.] In the passage, it is read that the indicated price of grain is about ten times normal (thus the famine interpretation popularity), with an entire day’s wages (a denarius) buying enough wheat for only one person (one choenix, about 1.1 litres), or enough of the less nutritious barley for three, so that workers would struggle to feed their families.

    Covid injection with green liquid.

    The fourth and final Horseman is named Death. Known as Θάνατος (Thanatos), of all the riders, he is the only one to whom the text itself explicitly gives a name. Unlike the other three, he is not described carrying a weapon or other object, instead he is followed by Hades (the resting place of the dead). However, illustrations commonly depict him carrying a scythe (like the Grim Reaper), sword, or other implement.

    The color of Death’s horse is written as khlōros (χλωρός) in the original Koine Greek,[43] which can mean either green/greenish-yellow or pale/pallid.[44] The color is often translated as “pale”, though “ashen”, “pale green”, and “yellowish green” are other possible interpretations (the Greek word is the root of “chlorophyll” and “chlorine”). Based on uses of the word in ancient Greek medical literature, several scholars suggest that the color reflects the sickly pallor of a corpse. In some modern artistic depictions, the horse is distinctly green.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle September 9 2021 #86776
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    Regarding iron. Once upon a time, I cleared up a serious ecoli infection using apolactoferrin. Doc thought I was nuts and actually called me the next few days to see how I was doing and encouraged me to go the ER. I told him that he blew his credibility when he tried to put me on antibiotics, which is typically not indicated for that type of infection. Lactoferrin can sequester iron and make it unavailable to certain types of bacteria. I took quite a bit and It cleared it in 48 hours and everything went back to normal.

    I remember germ had posted a protocol that recommended lactoferrin. Didn’t give it much thought as covid is a virus and thought to be more for any bacterial infections that could arise.

    Today’s iron article peaked my interest into the merit of using lactoferrin as an antiviral and I came across this statement.

    “Apolactoferrin is a synthetic form of lactoferrin, and has low to no iron (0-12%), and is not generally helpful for persons with low iron levels. … If you are trying NOT raise your iron levels, apolactoferrin is what you want. Only apolactoferrin works against viruses but both work against bacteria.”

    Things that make you go hmmmmmm.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle September 8 2021 #86660
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    “Apparently nothing can cure this belief in people, not billions in fines, losing their pensions, their kids disappearing, not thousands of drug deaths a year, not their own maiming: NOTHING. No wonder they don’t respect us; why should they?”

    Dr. D 8/22/2021 10:49am

    Today the the Whiteheads posted an article on Dissident Voice, it opens with a Bin Laden quote.

    “I tell you, freedom and human rights in America are doomed. The U.S. government will lead the American people in — and the West in general — into an unbearable hell and a choking life.” (Oct. 2001)

    The Rise of the Security-Industrial Complex from 9/11 to COVID-19

    The forward escape

    https://odysee.com/@academyofideas:3/how-to-escape-from-a-sick-society:7

    in reply to: Debt Rattle September 1 2021 #85958
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    Clever montage.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle August 18 2021 #84510
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    Madamsski offered Citicenx some hope and a place to stay. I read it as heartfelt and authentic. True courage in my book.

    in reply to: Stop Mass Vaccination Now! #84470
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    21sept2020

    The phase-III or the last stage of clinical trial of the Covid-19 vaccine ‘Covishield’, being developed by Oxford University, and manufactured by the Serum Institute of India (SII), began today at the state-run Sassoon General Hospital in Pune, Maharashtra on Monday, a senior official said.
    “We have started the phase-III trials of the vaccine candidate. We will administer dose to 150 to 200 volunteers,” said Dr Muralidhar Tambe, Dean, Sassoon General Hospital, reported PTI.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.livemint.com/news/india/oxford-covid-19-vaccine-serum-institute-begins-last-phase-of-clinical-trial/amp-11600698691078.html

    in reply to: Stop Mass Vaccination Now! #84440
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    To a world that has become weary, yet accustomed to playing defense against SARS-CoV-2, evolution of the Delta variant is both unwelcome and unsurprising. Delta, or B.1.617.2, was first identified in India in Dec. 2020.

    https://asm.org/Articles/2021/July/How-Dangerous-is-the-Delta-Variant-B-1-617-2

    Ramesh, a 57-year-old resident of Bhopal in Madhya Pradesh, India, sits outside a tea stall, rummaging inside a dirty bag of crumpled medical documents. He is searching for a record from a nearby private hospital, where he had taken part in a clinical trial for a COVID-19 vaccine in India. He finally finds it. It shows that he received his first injection on Dec 7.

    https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(21)00145-8/fulltext

    in reply to: Debt Rattle August 18 2021 #84390
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    @johnday

    The “Treat your Own Covid” back in Feb. was huge with my family and friends. Thank you for your contributions. I will likely be in the same boat soon.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle August 18 2021 #84331
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    Holy Crap. Thanks Raul

    in reply to: Debt Rattle August 17 2021 #84297
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    China pursuing New Zealand Model

    “As the diplomatic and economic costs accumulate in the next year, I think there will be an [internal] push to persuade Xi to go another way…and gradually open up,” says Shih. “But I think the most likely outcome in the next 12 months is status quo to continue with the zero-COVID approach.”

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/fortune.com/2021/08/05/china-delta-outbreak-covid-vaccine-lockdown-growth/amp/

    China Old school vaccines are leaky and protection fades. China does not appear to be pursuing recomb or mRNA route. Looking to hamster ovary tech instead. US military should be vaxed up several times over in the next 12 months. Hopefully ADE is not a thing,

    https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202108/1231470.shtml

    Hamster farms might be a growth industry if this pans out.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle August 17 2021 #84221
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    “A good tree bringeth not forth corrupt fruit; neither doth a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. For of thorns men do not gather figs, nor of a bramble bush gather they grapes.” How, according to this criterion, should we evaluate the fruit of contemporary Christianity, whose tree now boasts nearly 2000 annual rings?

    Who could possibly count the millions of innocent victims who have been killed in the name of the Lord? Why should we not blame a well-known writer for a remark like this: To crucify is not a Christian act. To burn alive or to impale—that’s the deal (V. N. Voinovich, Moscow 2042)?

    Why has the result of Christian history been not faith, hope and charity, but hate, depravity, and despair, on every story of society? Is it only because of the fact that “many are called and few are chosen”? Is it only because wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there will be which go in thereat”? Or probably this grievous fruit is related to Jesus’ question: “Can the blind lead the blind? shall they not both fall into the ditch”?

    Eugene Poliakov

    Jesus would not bend a knee to the state or bomb a country. Bush’s Jesus would which is the antithesis.

    Well said Dr. D, when will we learn? Just wanted to rephrase for clarity. Thanks.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle August 17 2021 #84189
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    News18 explicitly mentions oxygen plants. Ivermectin must have been edited out at print time.

    I remember Bob Malone said he choose to get the Pfizer injection because Moderna was 3x the spike instructions.

    in reply to: Hope #84107
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    Still trying to bring about that inflection point in my sphere of influence. Unfortunately, I see more and more succumbing to the coercion. I am sure I will see a mandate email from my employer soon.

    Anyway, a couple of notes from the Economist magazine podcasts related to their World in 2021 edition. The first one is just offensive and The second is more of the same predictive programming that we struggle against.

    “I think there is a danger that democracy will retreat in 2021. I’m hoping eventually we will be able to get widespread vaccine out there and that will make it easier for people to gather together and organize, which is what you need to be able to do if you are going to resist tyranny.”

    Robert Guest, foreign editor Economist

    “There won’t be widespread vaccination in the world until 2023. Rich countries have over ordered 4 to 5x more than they need to vaccinate their whole population. Looking as though many countries that vaccinate early may have to give boosters at the end of the year to cover against new variants. Then it looks like we will have endemic coronavirus and it’s going to be everywhere and we will need annual shots to protect us much like the flu. That seems to be the long term position…Once you want to open your borders to the rest of the world, even if you have vaccinated your whole population and only allow vaccinated people in you are going to find its not a water tight seal as these vaccinations are not a 100% effective. You need to have herd immunity and it looks like herd immunity is a tall order given the large numbers of people that a reluctant to be vaccinated.”

    Tom Standage, deputy editor Economist

    in reply to: Debt Rattle August 16 2021 #84051
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    Anybody get invited to an “Adopt a Tali” event?

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