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Ilargi wrote: ..it’s also that the volunteers who work in the kitchen get even more of a sense of pride and self-worth from doing something that really changes human lives. Don’t underestimate the loss of pride, of having a goal in life, there are so many facets to this, of not being able to do your job for 5 months. And then to be able to contribute to helping the neediest people in your society, it gains a whole new meaning.
I volunteer 2 mornings a week for a large ‘religious’ charity. All the those who work there are either: volunteers – ppl sent by social services (paid a bit by them, to get experience, learn stuff, be someone, etc.) – properly paid employees (e.g. truck driver, cleaner, decorator, seamstress, accountant) – ppl working part-time for reduced pay (because they get a state stipend for disability for ex.) – other.
A big crowd, from a ret. prof (much respected), to a girl ‘say’ from the gutter. Sometimes there is some uneasiness …but Swissie culture is good at overcoming class / educ. distinctions. All are committed to raking in as much as possible to give to the disadvantaged, the shared goal works (more or less…) And “goals in life” (see Ilargi)… yes…
The sad story of the day, is the ret. prof, aged about 80, who was previously complaining about not having his vax appointment honored (some screw-up?) got it, then drove home, arriving there, got out of his car, passed out, fell down, was found by passers-by, and hasn’t been back since… though reportedly he is ‘doing OK.’
Working for an entity that considers that everything done must be for profit is not only destructive of society, but sears the soul (as seeing or not the soul of Putin etc. was a topic previous) of those who are coerced or forced, thru lack of alternatives, to participate in it.
other link maybe of interest:
Scientific Analyses and Papers on Lockdown Effectiveness
“Here collated are the papers of shame – the lockdown ideology is destroying our societal health, selling the lie of saving lives. Lockdowns cost net suffering and lives – by a huge margin. Here we gather together the evidence.”
Exposition is one-sided, contra lock-downs.
Personally, I don’t for now have an opinion about the effect of various ‘lock-down’ (restrictive, quarantining, stopping movement, travel, meetings, congregations, etc.) measures taken in various countries, locales, types of places, etc. There are just too many variables. Still, the aspect of never let a good crisis go to waste is terribly strong.
under: ..follow the science rubric :
Re. comparisons between industry funded / vs not so medical research .. recommended:
Epistemic Corruption, the Pharmaceutical Industry, and the Body of Medical Science by Sergio Sismondo, Department of Philosophy, Queen’s University, Kingston, ON, Canada
Front. Res. Metr. Anal., 08 March 2021 (link below)
Paper is short, gives some review of previous attempts.
quote: My focus here is on how the pharmaceutical industry corrupts medical science.
Sergio rightly points out:
-> that the ‘conflict of interest’ concerns / shows of clean hands are really facticious
-> that much of the industry clinical research trials are ‘farmed out’ to contract research orgs – this part is the meat of the paper
A point he might have made but did not (see e) .. in the paper) is that somehow it has become widley accepted and shrilly touted that there is a **gold standard** in med. res. i.e. the double-blind w. placebo trial. Some ‘methods’ are superior to others, are the tops!
—BS. Different questions / problems / potential ‘scientific’ support for practices, call for different research approaches, methods, it all depends on many factors, and all have contstraints on them, e.g. ethical, theoretical, etc. etc. —
This attitude serves to decry purely observational studies, which are just as good. (Other point which I may tackle later.)
The nitty-gritty is that such trials are very expensive to run, and Big-Med-Pharma can afford it, while others either can’t or consider them not needed, useless, or a waste. (More pointless endavours, jobs, etc.) (Natch cheating even in such supposed ‘rigorous’ efforts is easily accomplished.)
I think it was madamski who ironically wrote “Science following the Science” or something like that, it made me laugh, but it is so apt. Here we see that certain interests define what “The Science” should aspire to, or be, or display itself as, as engineered by powerful moneyed interests, Big Corps, and by extension, their paid-up politicians.
link 1 – vid, anchorage meet, 1 hr 11 mins, in eng, chinese
link 2 – radio free Europe, print, eng
https://www.rferl.org/a/putin-denounces-eu-confrontational-stance/31163983.html
link 3 – F blogger in Moscow, print, french
http://russiepolitics.blogspot.com/2021/03/conversation-poutine-michel-lue-veut.html#more
While the int’l news has focussed on:
The Blinken – China diplomatic disaster in Anchorage. Vid. of locale shows desperately ugly place, already an insult… (link 1)
(Recall, the Chinese speak and understand English, the trans. are for the public and for the Americans.. Note there are cuts.. this is when the US asked for reporters to leave the room, afaik…an epic watch..)
and … Biden’s response on a US TV show that Yes, Putin is a killer!
The EU reaction has been abysmal. EU politics has gone bonkers.
Putin phoned Charles Michel, Pres. of the EU Council, on 22 March, before the session of the EU council that is to discuss relations with Russia, on 25 – 26 March.
While the F MSM hasn’t reported on this at all, except with vague condemnations of whatever Russian thingie, and I can’t find a transcript of the call, the EU site offers a run-around, a PDF with no content, this article in Eng. gives some pointers, from RadioFreeEurope. (link 2)
What Charles Michel demanded (!) according to Russian sources, and some F ones, and in line with link 2:
> Russia must implement Minsk accords. (The problems with this accord are endless and merely denoucing Russia is ridiculous.)
> Russia must give up hybrid war and its cyber-attacks
> Russia must respect human rights
(see for ex. link 3)
links below
I am having trouble in understanding why Biden was appointed President.
I can only see this event as a strong indicator of the weakening and coming effritement, slow shattering, splintering, degrading, of the Pax Americana, of the USA as a dominant power, or even, in some time, of the USA as a viable, cohesive entity.
// Taking it for granted that the election was stolen and Biden was chosen by a DNC cabal – see all the other candidates quitting – / by the PTB / aka Deep State / some combo / or all. //
Reasons. Heh. ? .. ?
1. Biden is the perfect puppet, as he doesn’t understand what is going on. US presidents are all puppets in a way, since Bush J., just to quote an arbitrary point (as in other countries as well), the trick is to find one who looks good.
But, Biden presents a decrepit, abysmal, public face, doing *irreparable* harm to the USA’s image. Similarly, the idea that “the aim is for Biden to die / quit and Harris to become President” is lame, this can be accomplished with any President. Moreover what would be the advantage of having Harris as Prezzie? Just another puppet and not competent.. loathed by many…> It all seems like a shoot-yourself in the foot exercise.
In the ROW, all important ppl, pols, etc. know that Biden is a senile basket case, not even a real person .. (Medicos consider his being hoisted to the post elder abuse.) The Biden – Russia, Blinken – China events show that expressed resistance to and disdain of the US has risen, and cynical triumphant laughter from round-about is echoing loudly.
2. Is the aim WW3? A blundering idiot Prez. and crossed signals provoke growing animosity – Russia, Russia, Russia, bis repetita, resistance to China’s rise and development, etc. Which then goes ka-blooie…and most of us die. Yet, in the US some survive, etc. Heh sounds like future-fic. If so, this isn’t well thought-out.
3. Might certain factions desire a break-up of the USA to return power to more local forces? Leading to some split-ups, aka secessions, the US states? For more control?
4. A few powerful ppl hope for tremendous financial returns. That is a constant, but what they do / how etc. is another story.
5. Other?
ROW = rest of the world
Is it that my left leaning friends were always this credulous? Is it just because so many are stuck in these digital media bubble silos that surround our minds in cottony propaganda? Because we are not interacting face to face and it this is preventing many from obtaining accurate bearings on what is going on in the world? – phoenix voice.
If by left-leaning one means, in the US, voting Dem, or being a “progressive”, ppl who might consider for ex. the Obama admin not ‘left enough’ etc., or being a Bernie Bro, angry at how he was treated .. In France, as the similarities are striking, adhering to the Socialist Party, having voted for Hollande (Socialist) as opposed to Sarkozy (who was supposedly ‘right wing’) — In fact the both were centrists but colored their positions to appeal to different demographic groups, then:
These left-leaning ppl are, yes, credulous in the sense that they believe, or pretend to believe, adhere to, the touted facts, stances, opinions, positions, of the lefter faction within the ‘allowed’ politics in the US and France.
They belong to, or aspire to join, or feel they truly desperately need to embrace the ethos of the 20%, of – not the richest as that metric is often used – but the 20% who occupy positions of expertise and power. E.g. sitting on decision nodes, important position in Gvmt. in education, health, working in the MSM and molding opinions, being a U prof, an expert in some kinda science, or demonstrating special gifts in the various arts, etc.
Their main motivation is to be part of the professional-managerial class (PMC, as opposed to ‘workers’ lowly types, deplorables..), with vociferous hangers-on (spouses for ex.), or wanting to sell to those who can pay. (Hot Art, etc.) Their status, with the attendant super perks, monetary and other, is attained, or should be awarded! they feel! .. Because of moral criteria, ethical probity, political correct vision, a genuine caring for ‘lower groups.’
Therefore, they use preachy wide-eyed posturing that appears to favor the oppressed, the victims of society (it is necessary to perpetually invent new ones..!) without ever having any impact whatsoever, for ex. on Black ppl being imprisoned for minor drug / other offenses… or the Prison Industry as a whole.
They are hypocrites, aren’t ‘left,’ in the old sense of ppls control of production, worker’s rights, care for the weak (helping families, med care needed, education, advancing society, dealing with x y z…) They have zero interest in an egalitarian society, they just want to climb up the ladder to join the Tops, and be pandered to, admired. They thus support Big Pharma, the MIC, the Banks (Obama was a champ on that score) and ally with the neo-cons, etc. or whomever is killing efficiently.
The ‘right’ in this frame is another story – less hypocritical.
The vaccination of children and v. young people contra-covid is totally crazy and beyond the pale (see upstateNYer, Doc Robinson, others, in previous thread.)
What has happened with the Pfizer, Moderna, vaccines shows there is a breakdown between ‘official’ – Gvmt. produced so to speak – advisories, and what happens on the ground.
For ex. the UK advisory for the Pfizer jab stated clearly that,
It is unknown whether /vaccine/ has an impact on fertility. (For men and women)
Safety for under-16 not demonstrated.. and more …laid out pretty clearly…
On the ground, the advisories are not followed because of hype and propaganda for the VAX which works via ascarcity thus desirable model as well as the ‘emulation model, popular movie stars, fantastic ppl, take the vax, some saintly women are even willing to die from it, and so on.
Just like the ads strategy used for ex. for expensive handbags (some models from Vuitton) and watches (Rolex top of range..) These AD methods are used because they are the only way of by-passing the Gvmt. official strictures, not that those are in fact ‘independent’ or ‘rigorous’ or ‘best science’ etc. Many of them have been corrupted by corporare funds and the attendant melding of corps – “humanitarian” – other, ex. UN orgs – and State, and are on the take / have thru corruption become completely incompetent. Still, these various instituted bodies are obliged to pretend, and display a weak, imho unconvincing, version of ‘clean hands’ and “fulfilling our mandate.”
Pregnant women should not be vaxxed, but on the ground, they are, and are mighty proud, and that is all fine with >> the MSM, others, nobody objects.
So part of all that swampy mess is that if the VAX promotes health and Proteks (sic!) it must also be good for our little kiddies, who should be allowed to ‘get’ it, but, for their safety, you never know, we will test it first!
consent for the vax in F:
https://www.lejdd.fr/Societe/vaccin-contre-le-covid-19-quest-ce-que-le-consentement-4015419
judge ok with forcible vax spain, one ex:
consent for the vax in F
https://www.lejdd.fr/Societe/vaccin-contre-le-covid-19-quest-ce-que-le-consentement-4015419
judge ok with forcible vax spain, one ex
From around here, France, Switz. some legal issues re. Covid.
1. In F, as the vaccines are approved only for ‘emergency’ use, informed consent is required. In principle, a pre-vax meet with a medico who explains, at least 5 days before, must be done. Consent can be verbal, and withdrawn at any time. —Note Spain has had two court cases where the judge ruled that forced vaccination was legitimate – both cases involved old ppl in care homes with family opposed to the vaccine.—
No doubt the letter of the guidance is not rigorously followed, particularly in old ppls homes, yet, such is the legal frame. Once the person has been vaccinated, it will be (imho) well-nigh impossible to prove ‘error’ or ‘coercion’.
Life Insurance Cos. have made their position public, in F, for now only thru interviews, e-mails, responses to individual queries, etc. ..>..
Dying post cov-vaccine is tantamount to a voluntary participation in an experiment. Put for ex. in these terms, trans. participating in a bio-medical experiment, which is an exclusionary case ..
In ‘official’ Med. trials, the subjects, as willing participants, either forego compensation for insult, or the responsibility falls to the drug Co. or the State, or is shared, all as agreed to, signed, beforehand.
So, in F, for post-vax death, insurance policies won’t be paid to the beneficaries. *Unless the State intervenes.
2. In Switz. small biz owners have discovered that many of them had (private, personal/own biz) insurance against biz losses in case of an EPIDEMIC. Typically, a medium-end popular restaurant I know of, with two venues, making money hand over fist. But as the WHO declared a PANDEMIC, these biz. are not being paid the compensation. … *Unless the State invervenes..
Such snarls may concern many others in other places…What about ppl’s, private, or public (or mix) health insurance / guarantees / State policies. Ex. What about long-haul Covid in various settings? How are the sufferers going to be ‘classed’, treated? Disabled? Chronic infection?
2 links MSM in next post.
USA: Texas Senate Testimony of Dr. Peter McCullough who makes the point that Covid-19 patients are not being taken care of which I agree with. (Not all he said natch.)
I never thought the Medicos (with some valiant exceptions of course) would simply abandon their mission to take care of patients and do their very best (even if not super effective all the time..) but that is what has happened. Naive me, sigh.
We see that medical circuits (doctors, clinics, hospitals, professional associations, Gvmt regulation and oversight, as well as medical research as reported scientific journals) have been infiltrated and taken over by ‘big money.’
As desperate ppl will pay everything they have and go deep into debt for help, cures, and saving a loved one.
(re the “West”..)
In no particular order, the culprits are Big Pharma, Big Corps who run hospitals, care-homes, outpatient clinics, networks of med. practices. Pharmacists (on the ground practioners, also part of Big Corps in many places), medical machinery and equipment producers (huuuge industry, very expensive products, profitable for share-holders), and at another post, Health Insurance, private cos. in first place but not only, Gvmt. tax payer supported is not exempt.
20 mins, March 2021. search on you tube: McCullough testifies to Texas Senate
Following the Vanden Bossche screed in the previous thread see Israel, the top-star-vax country. All nos. from Our World in Data.
Israel, number of daily deaths (7 day rolling average) per million ppl:
Highest point 2020 Oct 14 ………………. 4.47
Down, down -> lowest Dec 9………………0.79
Steep rise -> highest Jan 25 2021……… 7.49 (note 1)
Then sinking -> latest March 6 2021……..2.05Vaccinations. Doses per 100 people (Pfizer vax, 2 doses needed.)
is an almost perfect linear trend, going from
Dec. 23 2020………1.62
Jan 25 2021……… 46.8
March 11 2021……106.5Haaretz March 11 2021: 56% pop received first jab, 43% got 2 jabs, fits with the nos. above.
The death numbers, provided one accepts them, do not support the idea that vaccines are creating a ‘surge’ in deaths within the quite narrow time period (their long-term effects are another topic), nor the claim that vaccines have lowered deaths.
No relationship between the two can be discerned. *Imho.*
There is the time lag – about 1 or 2 weeks to note infection, another 2 weeks or often far more till death. Plus, overall the numbers of deaths are too small. As are at various dates the ‘fully vaccinated’ (what groups?) etc. Many other variables can be presumed to play a role and are left aside.
1. On Jan 25, to compare, UK 18, USA 9, Italy 7
//this post with links didn’t stick so i removed the links and will post them below.//
About the article Scientists Accuse CDC Of Misinterpreting Their Research For ‘Harmful’ School Reopening Guidelines posted in previous thread.
Forbes https://bit.ly/3l4nuTU
…States that K-12 education is open in Switz. since the UK variant. Yes, but not the whole story.
After the summer (say, as UK variant is mentioned), all outside-home venues for children, young ppl, were kept open.
Including “crèche” (day-care age 0 – 4/5 years, including private care, like a group of moms sharing), para-school (day-care for lunch, activites, outside of school hours, i.e. canteens, play and sports venues, and the like), primary school to age 12, lower secondary school to age say 14-16, special Ed. (all ages, incl. adults), upper secondary or high school to age 18-19.
Vocational training has taken a hit (one can’t be an apprentice in a closed facility) but class time is maintained, and the ‘practical side’ is, it is claimed “compensated for.”
Number of ppl allowed in a group is suspended, annuled, for approx. ages 0-18 (it is not the age that counts but the activity) for sports, group outings, and the like, provided it takes place in a state, para-state, or accredited private setting, and is supervised by adult(s), and proper measures are adopted (masks for ex.) Sports training of under-18 continues as usual (v. important in Switz, ski, ice-skate, tennis, marathon, etc.)
The Universities (age 18, 19 plus) are closed. U Students are in a bad way. Another story.
Here, everyone, afaik, approves of these measures. No way young ppl will bear the sacrifice. No way. They are life, they are the future, and deserve the best.
The covid stats (imho) don’t show negative results, outcomes, of such policies, as compared to other countries, => a very complicated topic.
Dr D. : Geert Vanden Bossche is Belgian, Flemish (Dutch dialect vs. French-speaking.) His written English is very typical “Dutch”, so we know he wrote it himself. No editor or even vague advisor passed by there.
https://be.linkedin.com/in/geertvandenbossche (was posted in top link)
At the top of the page, click on the FIRST “fait marquants” report to download it.
Surveillance of Covid vaccines effects, France.
Data is hard to find, one has to get around a ‘page doesn’t exist’ thingie. Links in a 2nd post.
* = my comment*
From the French Public Health site. Nos. are cumulative to 5 March (or noted if different)
*All are certainly undercounts; the report does not warn about this.*
Total vax so far: 4,315,000
*this is jabs and not ppl fully vaccinated, fully vaxxed maybe about 5% of the population*
Pfizer 3,954,000 (rest: Moderna, Astra Zeneca.)
Undesirable effects (for all) 9,174
For just one week, last week in Feb, 29% serious, 71% not serious.
Pfizer (leaving out Moderna and Astra Z.)
cumul. to 25 Feb: 7,000 undesirable side effects
*the no. is not given, I’m peering at a shoddy chart*
22% serious
78% not serious75% for women, 25% for men.
*Vaxxed, from other stats, is 60% women and 40% men, as the group ‘working in med / health / old ppls homes etc. are predominantly F. Still .. ?*
68% aged 16-64 —32 % aged 65 +
*As the huge majority of ppl vaxxed have been elderly, this shows that relatively ‘younger’ ppl experience more serious side effects. All the F stats have been very reticent re. age-groups, and this info is often missing, or obfuscated somehow. For ex, in the report summarized here, no “effects” / the deaths are detailed by age.*
Serious effects of ‘special interest’ – implying not all are listed – total on the list is 834:
>> most frequent:
259 “heart” (various)
65 convulsions
64 strokes
49 Covid 19
49 acute respiratory distress
54 hemorragic disease (idk what exactly this refers to)
37 anaphylaxis level II and III
30 facial paralysis (Guillain-Barré is a separate category: 1)
21 thrombosis
16 pulmonary embolism
217 deaths
*this cat. appears as the last entry on the table, it is not a total, but a separate category.* (very sneaky)
——
peculiarly Diabetes is on the list (9)!
The list is incomplete because accompanying text mentions zona (shingles) while stating “most cases weren’t serious” (91 cases.) High blood pressure is also mentioned but not on the list.
So the F official site logs 217 deaths as directly caused by the Pfizer vax. Implied as well is the Pfizer vax causes Covid-19, if only in a very few cases.
I have never seen such a mess in F. stats. The F. are good at math, good at stats, and many of the d-bases and Gvmt. reports on all kinds of topics are well done, or OK, acceptable, and can be downloaded, checked, etc. Caveats are regularly in the prelude, introduction. E.g. employment (in all its forms), leukemia cases, prisoners, etc.
Naturally, many damning or sensitive numbers / topics are simply not published, the control is tight.
V. Arnold posted (prev thread):
The public education system in the U.S. is irreparably broken. The poor are sentenced to ignorance by a malfuntioning educational system.
Yes, for ex. Beyond inherited privilege, which sees the children of the rich attaining ‘well paid positions’ and so on, thru contacts, etc. – other reasons, factors, are well documented.
E.g. often mentioned as an emblematic ex. (correctly..). High-earner Silicon valley types don’t allow their children to have smart phones or tablets, at all. Zero. (I have read, not a far stretch .. know of one family where this rule is applied..) The children attend private schools following a Montessori line, or other ‘soft’ similar philosophies / educational principles.
The children mess with paints, play guessing games, sing (old fashioned!), write how they like, do ‘estimations’, and ‘discussions’ (math lessons), and so on. The teachers are not better trained / more benevolent, simply, the system is different.
The rich children are not subjected to skill-n-drill (rote learning perfomance when useless, though some is always obligatory, basic mental math, multiplication tables, reciting the alphabet, for ex.) and not punished or degraded for failure, as testing / marking ‘down’ / is avoided as it makes no sense. The kiddos aren’t treathened by violence, in the shape of scary drills, possible and real police interventions, etc.
The distractions of the EVIL You-Tube links for under 12-s (as just one ex.) can’t be viewed by these children. In their environment, the ppl around them talk and chat to them, like and accept them, ppl joke around, don’t have score-cards,
The only global trial of potential COVID-19 treatments is languishing. The World Health Organization’s (WHO’s) Solidarity trial, set up last year to quickly test potential COVID-19 therapies with tens of thousands of patients, produced headlines in October 2020 when it showed that four candidate treatments offer little benefit. But since then, it hasn’t launched any new tests. On 27 January, John-Arne Røttingen, who works at Norway’s foreign ministry and chairs the trial’s executive group, pulled the plug on the study’s only remaining arm, which tested the antiviral remdesivir. “The Solidarity trial is now on pause,” he says.
Science 05 Mar 2021:
Vol. 371, Issue 6533, pp. 972-973
DOI: 10.1126/science.371.6533.972link: https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2021/03/international-megatrial-coronavirus-treatments-standstill
links, all thru a link shortener, bitly, and didn’t stick. all originals in french so prob not much read anyway, can do better if requested
French medical staff are quite reluctant to have the vaccine, if keener than the general public. Before their arrival, in Nov. 2020:
53% French public was opposed to the covid vaccine(s).
Amongst libéral (non-gvmt) medical personnel:
Docs and pharmacists, 80% said would accept it for themselves, and 85% would recommend it to their patients.
Midwives and physiotherapists: 60%, and 80% would reco. to their patients.
Nurses: 50% … 80%.
—link 1
Dec. 2020. Med. staff (including ‘aides soignants’ – nurse helpers) working in old ppls homes. 76% are opposed to corona vaccines, and 5% ‘don’t know.’
—link 2
As for general attitude to vaccines, here the % vaccinated against flu for season 19-20
Docs 67%
Midwives 48%
Nurses 36%
‘aides-soignants’ 21%—link 3
These numbers are explained by social stratification. Med personnel (see 1) consider themselves socially above their patients (as younger, better educated, in better shape, more attractive, maybe in many cases ‘richer’, etc.) I do find the no. of those who won’t accept a dodgy product for themselves but who will recommend it for their patients quite alarming, but *there ya go* – social superiority, bis.
Those working in old-ppls homes (see 2) are way down the social ladder as compared to independents and public hospital employees. Much of elder-home care in France is privatised, and are pure profit-making machines.. salaries in the pits.. work conditions disgusting..
As for actually being vaccinated (for flu), the % (see 3) speak for themselves. (In F, midwives have higher status than nurses, which is why they are treated as a category apart.)
As the vaccines are being produced and promulgated by the top power echelons (Corporations, aka Big Pharma, Gvmts. and rotten NGOs in web of alliance, be it uneasy) higher-placed followers or hangers-on adhere through self-interest, fancifully assumed or aspriring group-belonging —> approval sinks steadily lower down the social scale.
It follows that the corona vaccines are being advertised and boosted (sic) by primitive prop methods. (There are no ‘scientific’ arguments to be made, invented ones might contravene some still existing laws / conventions.)
E.g. famous ppl being jabbed on TV, some proudly announcing their vax status, etc. as if a vaccine is akin to some fashion move, like a super symbol artsy tattoo or wearing X highest-end shoes, a visible sign of belonging to the in-crowd. This also ties up with the ‘vax-status pass’ issue, which will certify not only that ‘you’ are a good, moral person (protecting everyone and all grannies) but admire your betters and imitate them, i.e., submit to them — or not.
links in next post
Nearly six out of every 10 people who died with coronavirus in England last year were disabled, figures suggest. (Feb. 11, 2021.) BBC
Why Is There A Correlation Between The Vaccine Rollout And Increased COVID–19 Mortality? (Feb. 2, 2021) by I. Davis.
Data Disaster: A Call for an Investigation Into the CDC’s Conduct During COVID-19 (Feb. 18, 2021)
2.37 hours. Youtube vid. From Stand for Health Freedom.
Not quoted in that article about the Chinese miners at Swiss Policy Research is the original MA thesis:
(PDF in Chinese and in Eng.) 2013.
The analysis of 6 patients with severe pneumonia caused by an unknown virus.
– – by Li Xu.
abstract: quote ..They were all workers at the same mine where bats and bat feces (…) the type of bat in the mine…was …from which was extracted SARS-like-CoV when Scientists in China were looking for SARS pathogen… >> see text
(3 patients died and 3 patients survived)
this was imho the link that made my attempts at posting fail, as the above parts did go through.
stitch together part 1 and 2, suppressing ////… ////
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/6981198- ////…….////
Analysis-of-Six-Patients-With-Unknown-Viruses.html
“Covid-19 Virus Origin: The Mojiang Miners”
from swiss policy research
“Finland Had a Patent-Free COVID-19 Vaccine Nine Months Ago — But Still Went With Big Pharma.” (Why?)
https://jacobinmag.com/2021/02/finland-vaccine-covid-patent-ip
test, part of my post:
This video shows Dr. Astrid Stuckelberger (prof at GE Uni, I know ppl who know her and they say she is great) expressing grave doubts about relationships between GAVI, Gates, and the WHO, and what exactly these links are. She has 20 years experience WHO/NGOS/world agreements, etc.
vid is slow to load
Idk – I hit submit and saw it go but then no post showed up on the site. (Vague for sure, I’m cooking a big meal … busy…) I thought it might be because of links. I will try again, in next post, maybe in 2 parts.
Polder dweller on prev. thread:
A general question for those of us who live in Europe is why there’s no promotion of alternatives to vaccines at all? If I even mention this kind of thing to friends and colleagues then they roll their eyes, call me a “wappie” (a Dutch colloquial term for a conspiracy theorist) and the conversation is shut down.
The so-called rich Western countries (EU, USA..) have suffered big time from COV-19.
Demographic reasons: 1) Far more older ppl, e.g. over 80, vulnerable / many with underlying conditions, 2) More obese ppl, 3) Societal, more consumption, more moving around, more crowds, more ‘lotsa contacts’ as in partying in discos, etc. A short list, one could go on.
What also counts is Health Authorities (Ministers, Advisors, > their directives, etc.) who are incompetent and arrogant with it.
Ex. Macron and his ex-Health Minister Buzyn, Boris Johnson and Neil Ferguson. These ‘leaders’, plus their previous incarnations, have been running ‘Austerity’ on health services since the nineties if not before. They themselves know they can pay for their own health care, and ‘smart technology’ and ‘just in time’ and ‘wonderful new scientific advances’ will be ‘innovative’ and … will do the job. What the job is remains unspecified.
The Gov. top dogs, EU, are in lien with Big Pharma, and even subservient to it. Because they are lackeys to Mega Corps, in a general way, and Pharma is of course a fantastic money maker, it occupies a no. 1 spot on the Podium. (Many will pay their last cent and go into enormous debt to save a loved one.)
The links between Pharma Cos, health personnel – Docs, Hospitals, makers of equipment, etc. – Lobbyists who are well paid – the Parasites on the system (Insurance Cos. for ex.) and elected representatives (corrupted), plus Organisations like GAVI, the Wellcome Trust, the Gates Foundation, are very consequent, robust, and together they steer what happens.
The MSM, the easily accessible media, supports the powerful, and of course prioritize fear, anxiety, as that awards them profits (views, clicks, ads, donations, etc.) They serve, and align with, the ppl behind the scenes who are directing, if confusedly.
The top dogs in “W” countries, hard-hit, and facing unwelcome difficulties (finances, disruptions, loss of income, trade, energy questions, etc.), put their efforts behind vaccines, which would “solve” all in one stroke, while also feeding their 5-star club-member, Big Pharma. Deaths of old people and others are not a consideration.
The handmaiden MSM supports all this 100% and will not give any space to any alternative voices, while ridiculing and mocking anybody for what they imagine or claim to be total loopy BS.
Danish citizens who watch TV can only dismiss any questions or objections to the MSM mantras as coming from ‘conspiracy theorists,’ crazy people.
Propaganda is astonishingly effective.
John Day, thank you so much. I will pass this on to those who may be interested or likely to read and absorb without rejecting out of hand. You may be saving a life here or there around the world, green dots scattered on a map and you will never know, …so it goes.
Nevada bill would allow tech companies to create governments.
from top post. https://bit.ly/3jspHb0
Yes… though Gvmts. is a bit of a stretch. This proposal or action(s) is just a few more small but significant steps towards a neo-feudal landscape.
Where Industrial Kings and Big Biz Boards create enclaves aka fiefs, where they reign as KorpoKings (maybe not the best moniker, have to think..) who regulate everything, including rating of ppl, the housing / jobs / pay / privileges they can hope for, etc.
All dressed up in faux-modernity discourse about competition, innovation, loyalty to ‘right’ values, aspirations, best lives to live, and so on. Probably many ppl see this as ‘cool’, as they might escape stupid rules about lawns and some taxes they don’t agree with, ignoring the wider legal, territorial, aspects. Clinging to some tribe, group, top boss, cult-like figure, etc.
USA State and Federal Legislation (not much use.. recently.. to ordinary ppl) will no longer apply in these -for the moment- tiny areas. —> Or only so when the locals fociferously demand it and a kind impasse has been reached?.. to be seen..
Next, other small areas will pop up here and there, and flourish.
The mantra will be competition and better lives, and being with your people, like-minded people, while sub rosa all the Big Corps will collaborate to enslave all employees and low-lifes, and a ‘blanket’ power will be given to Regulatory Oversight (corp controlled.) With locals ultimately, completely powerless.
This bleak vision is hopefully rather fanciful, not realistic, easily debunked.
