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An interesting interview with Melissa Ciummei
We are running out of time and we need to stand up
All we really need to do is mass non-compliance
It is now accepted even by Fauci that the “vaccines” become ineffective after a few months. I would be interested in understanding why this is. I can think of two possibilities:
1) The immune system forgets how to create the antibodies for the spike protein over time
2) The virus mutates so that over time the spike protein antibodies don’t recognize the mutated virus
If 1) is true then a booster might get your immune system to remember how to make the spike protein antibodies, or it might not. I haven’t heard anything about testing boosters. The default response is “If it worked once it will work again” which seems naive.
If 2) is true then a booster is totally useless.
In either case they can have no idea as to the effectiveness of a booster against a variant they knew nothing about a few days ago.
If one of the good doctors here knows more about this I would be interested in a more educated explanation.@my parents said know
Watching “Cabaret”. Beauty is amoral. Discuss
I always loved Tomorrow Belongs to Me
Would be a great Covid vaccine theme song.
TAE is the old guy at 1:40 and 2:26@deflationista
I agree that one needs to be careful and not ascribe a typical phenomena to the wrong source. The problem is that for sudden cardiac arrest (as well as Covid and Ivermectin) it seems we can’t get the whole story. The agencies we depend on for the research aren’t forth coming and don’t seem interested in collecting and disseminating information. Everything is obscured in the name of preventing vaccine hesitancy. Do we have an excess of sudden cardiac arrest among the young and healthy? I don’t know for sure but nothing you have written answers that question. Your info reminds me of climate change deniers saying “We’ve always had heat waves. Nothing new here.” The question is are we seeing more now.A thought experiment: Suppose only children under 18 could catch Covid-19 and that they exhibited the same symptoms and outcomes they do now. Would we create a vaccine for this and require all children to get it after only a few months of trial?
I have a friend who had Covid and then got vaccinated and just had his first booster. He thinks the unvaxxed are selfish fools (including me I guess) but says he is willing to consider evidence to the contrary. He is an engineer and thinks very logically. If I only send him one thing what is the single best paper or article I could send him?
Fauci Interview
Hubris personifiedSpeaking of healing, when I want to escape it all I turn out the lights and listen to this.
I hope you don’t meet a similar fate.
Come now, from the way you address us you must hope we all meet this fate.
Dr. Fauci Just Issued This Urgent Warning to Vaccinated People
The warning is that your vaccination is past its sell-by-date, you could get sick, hospitalized or die just like the unvaxxed so get a booster ASAP. He says it’s happening in Israel so we should see it in 6 weeks in the US.I looked around the room, wondering if anyone else understood the glaring incompetence on display. Clearly, Pence needed more input.
Just like the way industry championed sugar in the 70’s saying fat was bad. Ancel Keys was the Tony Fauci of that effort and John Yudkin was the Robert Malone. Took 40 years to recognize the damage that continues to this day from that one. The below is from the Guardian (you’d think they’d have learned something.)
Although Keys had shown a correlation between heart disease and saturated fat, he had not excluded the possibility that heart disease was being caused by something else. Years later, the Seven Countries study’s lead Italian researcher, Alessandro Menotti, went back to the data, and found that the food that correlated most closely with deaths from heart disease was not saturated fat, but sugar.
By then it was too late. The Seven Countries study had become canonical, and the fat hypothesis was enshrined in official advice. The congressional committee responsible for the original Dietary Guidelines was chaired by Senator George McGovern. It took most of its evidence from America’s nutritional elite: men from a handful of prestigious universities, most of whom knew or worked with each other, all of whom agreed that fat was the problem – an assumption that McGovern and his fellow senators never seriously questioned. Only occasionally were they asked to reconsider. In 1973, John Yudkin was called from London to testify before the committee, and presented his alternative theory of heart disease.
A bemused McGovern asked Yudkin if he was really suggesting that a high fat intake was not a problem, and that cholesterol presented no danger.
“I believe both those things,” replied Yudkin.
“That is exactly the opposite of what my doctor told me,” said McGovernFrom The Sugar Conspiracy
Doesn’t give me hope that this farce will be widely recognized in my lifetime.
@John Day @Mister Roboto
How did you set an icon for your account?
Worried about child’s future fertility and COVID-19 vaccine? Know the truth about the risks
From the article:Knapp explained that the building blocks of mRNA vaccines such as the Pfizer COVID-19 shot for kids are not new.
She also pointed out that the vaccines affect the immune system, not the reproductive system. “They are two different parts of our body that are not interrelated,” she said.
This vaccine has not been shown to affect fertility in adults, both those enrolled in the clinical trials and those who have received the vaccine since December.
She said understanding the science of the vaccine is important. It breaks down rapidly at the injection site to cause the antibody response, she said. “Producing antibodies has never been shown to impact current or future pregnancies,” Hansard said.
“It’s the science of the mRNA vaccine. There’s not a physiological reason that (infertility) risk would exist,” she said.Stunning! A torrential flow of illogic. That Dr. Knapp is allowed to continue to practice medicine is ridiculous. I wouldn’t trust her to make coffee.
In my opinion, Take your vitamins and lose weight and you’ll live better and longer than if you keep taking booster shots.
For extra credit exercise, eat good food and intermittently fast.
Unfortunately there’s no money in any of this for Pfizer, etc. so no matter how healthy you are you will still be a second class citizen.Here is something surreal. Go to National Geographic and scroll down to the map of the US and choose Deaths and Last 2 Weeks. And then remember that Nebraska now allows Ivermectin to be prescribed for Covid 19. Is it a coincidence?
We HAVE oil, and we HAVE food. We just refuse to DELIVER it.
I suspect the reason the Chinese don’t destroy the US is that they want that oil and that food and they want enough infrastructure left in the US to deliver it to them. They can crash the US dollar any day they want but they are playing the long game and they don’t crash it because it is in their best interest not to. It is better for them to buy up US farmland and other resources with dollars and use the US government to enforce their ownership. They will be the new British and the US will be the new Irish.
In hindsight, Saddam Hussein still running Iraq would seem to be the lesser of two evils.
I have a good friend from Iraq and we have spoken about this often. He hated Saddam. His uncle was fairly high in the Government and was at the notorious meeting where Saddam read a list of names who were taken out and shot (and his uncle’s first name was the same as one of those shot which gave him an awful scare). He said you could not speak of politics ever, you could not trust even close friends. He said there were black secret service cars in the city and if you saw one you must never make eye contact with the men in the car because they would pull you over and ask why you were looking at them. He had friends disappeared. He left the country to avoid the Iran/Iraq war. All this said he would much rather have had Saddam stay in power than the US invasion and the state of Iraq now. The Iraq of his youth was somewhat like Libya – free education and health care. Prosperous. Safe. He describes how as a schoolboy they would ogle the college girls in mini-skirts waiting for the bus back in the 70’s. He said they loved all things American and would give their kids American names (he had a classmate named Eisenhower.) His family were Christians. Saddam liked Christians in the government because they had no political aspirations. Now absolutely none of his family are left in Iraq. All were forced to leave. All had to emigrate to the Europe, the US or Canada. My friend says he now sees parallels between Iraq under Saddam and the US. He no longer feels safe expressing political opinions at work And yet for all this we now have George W Bush making statements about morality and he is taken seriously. What a world.
My son-in-law’s father just came down with Covid. SIL has been reading TAE at my suggestion. He is going to take his father the FLCCC protocol: Vitamin C, D, quercetin, aspirin, melatonin, ivermectin, etc. His father is about my age and I am interested in seeing how he fares. I am not fearful of Covid but one never knows. Everything is statistical. You try to stack the odds in your favor but have to play the hand you’re dealt.
We would not seek a battle, as we are; Nor, as we are, we say we will not shun iti
Henry V
@V Arnold
My wife and I have been doing Pauling Therapy for 5 years now and haven’t had a cold of flu since we started. I assumed it was the vitamin C but now wonder if it is the lysine. Or both. Oh and our heart health is great.From the Van Den Bossche piece:
Considering that vaccinees shed and transmit as much virus as unvaccinated people, how could one even postulate that unvaccinated people are susceptible to severe disease whereas vaccinees are still largely protected from severe disease? Frankly speaking, this doesn’t make any sense at all.
This actually does make sense to me. For a vaccinated person, if they get Covid (while the vaccine still works and with the right variant) it can multiply in their respiratory lining but once it crosses into the blood stream the spike protein antibodies would keep it from doing major damage. So they would have a sizable viral load and be able to infect others but wouldn’t suffer the worst effects themselves. Maybe one of our resident doctors can comment on whether this is true or if there is a problem with this analysis.
And to be clear, it still appears to me that the vaccine causes immediate and long term harm and that staying healthy plus vitamin D, zinc, etc. are the best way to go for most of us unless we get a more traditional and well tested vaccine which would be years away.Acknowledging that there is still a benefit (although waning) for getting the jab in regards to hospitalizations and death is a way to open the door.
There maybe was a time when we could easily change our minds but that time is past. We have chosen which narrative to believe and are sticking with it. Call it confirmation bias or cognitive dissonance but more information is not going to convince many. The question now is how we will treat people on the other side. Most people I know are tolerant and willing to make accommodations even if they feel like the have to avoid some people and situations. But some people are not tolerant and openly wish harm on those that haven’t chosen like they have. Unfortunately it appears those in power are mostly pro-vaxx and in this second group. It doesn’t seem like it can end well.
@expatkiwi
Someone in the comment section of the Berenson piece pointed out that they loosened the definition of vaccine to:vaccine: a preparation that is administered to stimulate the body’s immune response against a specific infectious agent or disease
I take Vitamin D to specifically fight Covid 19 every day. I’m vaccinated and have daily boosters!
I think it is beneficial to acknowledge those facts. I can see how someone can look at that data and make a personal decision to take the jab. I can also see how someone can look at that data and make a personal decision to not take the jab – to see that small benefit as not outweighing the personal and societal risks.
I agree with this but the what is never included in the data are columns for how people who have taken prophylactic measures are faring in terms of hospitalization and death, those other measures being Vitamin C, D, zinc, etc. People are not being told about these in the MSM and I gather from my limited contact with people that they just don’t know about them. I think a table that showed how people are doing with those (including IVM.HCQ) would be a game changer but expect that this data isn’t being gathered and wouldn’t be published even if it was. We are being fed a false dichotomy.
@Dr. D.
I saw Fantastic Voyage as a kid at the drive in when it first came out. I always wished I could tear antibodies off Raquel Welch.@PolderDweller
My work place sounds similar. Everyone vaxxed and sure that they are doing the right thing. I ask myself what is about to hit them and have to admit maybe nothing is about to hit them. It’s possible that the majority of people will have no discernible negative vaccine effects (or won’t connect them if they do) even with boosters. Five years from now they may still believe they did the right thing and because of this they will accept the passports as a necessary evil in perpetuity. I also have to admit that if I got the vaxx I might have no adverse consequence. But I am convinced that the passport is the goal and is worse than Covid 19 and worse than the vaccine and that getting vaxxed is tacit approval of the passport. On top of that of course is my belief that early treatments are safer and more effective than the vaccines and have been blocked by a corrupt system that cares nothing for people and whose goal is money, power and control.@John Day
I can hardly express how impressed I am with your action. My employer isn’t mandating vaccination but won’t let me come into the office. Luckily I can work from home perfectly well. I know I would feel immense trauma if they said get vaxxed or leave. I stand with you.
I wonder if people realize that the way they are treating you is the same way people have treated the marginalized throughout history. “Why can’t he just get the shot?” is equivalent to “why can’t he just convert to Christianity?” or “Why can’t he just join the party?”
I read “The Hiding Place” a long time ago. Corrie Ten Boom remembered seeing German troops forcing prisoners into box cars. He father was watching and said “Those poor souls.” When she looked at her father she was surprised to see he was looking not at the prisoners but at the German troops. I try to remember that in all this.67-year-old former Notre Dame professor says “damn the unvaccinated,” dead 12 days after third Pfizer mRNA injection
She blamed her death on the unvaxxed crowding up the hospitals.Don’t mask up, ventilate.
SARS-cov-2 rna eliminated from hospital ward air by air filtrationMake sure and have a barf bag handy if you read this:
The Parents Who Lied to Get Their 11-Year-Olds VaccinatedInfo about the historical Spartacus:
Spartacus was a Thracian gladiator who, along with Crixus, Gannicus, Castus, and Oenomaus, was one of the escaped slave leaders in the Third Servile War, a major slave uprising against the Roman Republic. This rebellion, interpreted by some as an example of oppressed people fighting for their freedom against a slave-owning oligarchy, has provided inspiration for many political thinkers, and has been featured in literature, television, and film. The philosopher Voltaire described the Third Servile War as “the only just war in history.” Although this interpretation is not specifically contradicted by classical historians, no historical account mentions that the goal was to end slavery in the Republic.
A number of people from Edson, Alberta are in ICU after attending a “COVID party”, where they hoped to achieve natural immunity.
The report is vague. A number of people could mean 2. How about some real numbers. At the end of the report they ask the hospital for specific numbers but none are reported. None of these reporters seem interested in the complete story. I would ask how many of all the people in that hospital for Covid 19 were offered early out patient treatment? Probably none. It’s again the false choice, leaky vaccine or nothing until you are in the hospital.
@generic
I appreciate and believe your ad hoc poll. I believe that vaccines are better than doing nothing in the short term and maybe even in the long term (we don’t know yet), but the point is, they are forcing us to compare getting the jab against doing nothing.Here is a conversation I had with my brother:
– Him: The hospitals in northern Idaho are overwhelmed with unvaxxed Covid patients
– Me: How many of those patients were offered any kind of out-patient treatment when they first caught Covid
– Him: I don’t know
– Me: Probably few of them if any. The standard of care is if you get Covid, stay home until you think you might die and then come to the hospital. I believe that given home treatment the hospitals wouldn’t be overrun.
– Him: So you believe there are such treatments?
– Me: There are many doctors that claim there are
– Him: But they’re not FDA approved
– Me: Yes, the FDA, CDC, etc. have had 18 months to investigate early treatment. If they have I haven’t heard about it. The NIH finally recommended Vitamin C, D and zinc for prevention and treatment of Covid a few days ago. I have been called an idiot on line for suggesting people take these because they weren’t approved. Those alone might have prevented a lot of hospitalizations.The mainstream narrative has fought any kind of out patient treatment tooth and nail and presents the false dilemma of getting jabbed or doing nothing. I would ask why, but it would just be rhetorical.
@chooch
Thanks for the description of your bout with the holocough. Were you and your wife taking anything prophylactically?Probably the best synopsis on the whole issue I have read. I feel like I was red pilled and later on black pilled. This essay is the much more hopeful brown pill.
The pandemic of the unvaccinated will continue as the definition of fully vaccinated evolves. Soon fully vaccinated will require three shots, then four shots and so on so the reports of hospitals overrun by the unvaccinated can still be made.
@ezlxa1848
So interesting that you mention the book by Peter Boghossian and James Lindsay. Boghossian just quit Portland State University where he was professor of philosophy for 10 years because he says the university is all about conformity to wokeness now and just a social justice factory:
Makes me even more interested in reading his book.
