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deflationista wrote: These two groups typically like to project a level of patriotism and love of America, that it just seems completely out of character for their ‘image’ to be tolerant of Nazi symbolism at their events and rallies.
This in response to TAE participant response to his tossing a photo of Nazi trucker hats for sale at a big motorcycle rally, apropos of…?
My thought would be, even among subcultures, there will be many subgroups, as well as overlap with other subcultures. Some motorcyclists who attend big rallies and are “tough guys” who are attracted to the Nazi stuff might also belong to a white supremacist group, or espouse that type of ideology. They might not have thoroughly thought through how that jibes with their patriotism. Or they might think the country is going to hell and if only there were Nazis, things would be better. It’s hard to know unless you sat down with a few of them to discuss.Whatever the case, the percentage of people that ride motorcycles or go to Trump rallies and buy and or wear Nazi hats is fairly minuscule. The percentage of people blindly in thrall of “the science” “technology” “the experts” and the people who direct messaging from these realms, are the people who could ultimately make true fascism possible.
From The Atlantic article deflationista tagged,although I am not sure why on this non-news either?:
But here’s what we know today, based on information that we have right now: Among several wonderful options, the more old-school vaccine from Novavax combines ease of manufacture with high efficacy and lower side effects. For the moment, it’s the best COVID-19 vaccine we have.The Atlantic’s COVID-19 coverage is supported by grants from the Chan Zuckerberg Initiative and the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation.
Yeah, bro! Hit me with that old skool vax, man! Wonderful option, yo, just wonderful! Wait. What? You pumped me up and it’s not available?
Novavax again delays seeking U.S. approval for COVID-19 vaccineHere’s my take on what could be going on: pumping up the Novavax before it goes to get EUA. That would be one thought. The company received a huge injection of funding from Bill and Melissa, but the theory is that with the cupboards currently overstocked with Pfizer, J&J and Moderna vaxes, the FDA may not be disposed to grant a fourth EUA.
It’s just another “go get vaxxed” article, in the end. The Atlantic is completely pro-vaccination, even vaccinations that are impossible to get and do not even have EUA and are made by a company that has never produced a vaccine to market. Sorry, not available yet. But meanwhile, have one of these wonderful options!
It certainly seems like a more sensible approach with fewer downsides, and it can be more easily distributed to countries that do not have the deep freeze storage necessary for the mRNA stuff. I’m sure enough people will be paid that it will speed through,especially if the boosters from the big three start stalling out. Why not through another vax into the mix that the virus can do its mutant dance on? It’s a world-wide vaxp party. What could go wrong?
Sources: US to recommend COVID vaccine boosters at 8 months
Question #1: Is Delta more virulent than Alpha (or Original Coke, or whatever?) Or is it LESS virulent? I have heard both.
Question #2: Are the boosters exactly the same composition as the original vaccine,? Or have they been genetically manipulated again to correspond to the Delta variant?
I suspect the official vaxxed #s for the U.S. are fairly close to accurate. The well over 70% rates claimed for many of the states in the Northeast seem plausible based on my experience. This would be balanced out by the apparently much lower rates in some parts of the country. Which I think creates a problem that might be unique to the U.S.–your hope scenario would be a regional phenomenon. I’m not sure what that would look like, but I suspect not as good as a single, unified pushback across an entire country.
Quantitative Easing was introduced to buy time to fix structural problems in the economy. But it became the solution to every economic hiccup.
Quite so. However, the big reveal on that twitter mini-interview? Werner points to “East Asian” countries with highly sustainable, equitable high growth economies. He must be joking, but he sure looks and sound like a serious chap. How he states this with a straight face I do not know.
I do agree with his last statement, that the IMF and the World Bank are a continuation of colonialism, extracting the resources for ourselves as cheaply as possible while sending “developing” countries into a debt death spiral. But everybody knows that.
The NYT today (no link):
Delta Surge Drives Home Painful Truth: Covid Isn’t Going Away
The new flood of cases has forced Americans to recalibrate. Governors and mayors who imposed shutdowns last summer are pushing vaccines now.Right. Now that vaccines are not working, we need to…push vaccines. Oh, and let’s do the mask thing again, too. We’ll wait till the “boosters” start failing before we r\institue lockdowns. Or not.
Babies and toddlers spread the virus in homes more easily than teens, a study found.
Well, if we can’t scare them with teens getting sick, how about newborn babies as superspreaders? Are we cleared for vaccinating newborns yet? Tony, get the FDA on the phone, stat.Yes, the EOUSA Empire of Once United States of America, is leaving Afghanistan in disgrace. We are leaving because that is what dying empires with fake treasuries do, they begin to die off at the extremities. Now the Afghans will have to settle for being killed up close and personal by the Taliban instead of being caught out in drone strikes or bombing runs.
When I was a kid it seemed so simple. We prayed for the starving kids in Biafra and dug in to our overcooked meat and canned veggies.
deflationista inquires:That is quite a headline. “Death Toll Exceeds 2,0…. Is there really a way for UAE to exceed 2000 total deaths for a second time?
Yes, if the second time involved a different disease or cause of death, explained in a subhead or the body copy eg, For the second time in 3 years, a pandemic exceeded 2,000 deaths. Or if there were sufficient time between outbreaks so that it would be considered another wave that was counted separately.
But I know what you mean. Bad editing and poor wording is a pet peeve of mine, too. Headlines or sentences of the “the worst the world has seen” variety, that don’t take into account the obvious fact that the world population is the largest it has ever been, for example. I also cringe slightly at “daily basis,” which means the same thing as daily, or every day.
But for god’s sake, do not use everyday when you mean every day–though I expect that is practically a lost cause at this point, when even printed store signs read Open Everyday. The way I learned to remember it (not that it’s complicated) was, The girl wore her everyday dress every day. You may substitute whatever gender makes you comfortable in your space, no microaggression intended.
As to what Raul may have been implying, I believe the vaccines were sold as more or less guaranteed to keep you hanging on this mortal coil if you caught the covid. And that is the published number from the government of Covid deaths. Presumably deaths from the vaccines are duly noted in a different headline…somewhere. However, there is no way to know how many, if any, died of covid despite being vaccinated. And the chart has no way of indicating any variables that might or might not have caused the various peaks and valleys, rendering them meaningless. So I would say personally, there is much too little information here to imply much of anything at all, other than the aforementioned poor editing skills. What to make of this bit of text accompanying the chart:
Shown is the rolling 7-day average. The number of confirmed cases is lower than the number of actual cases, the main reason for that is limited
testing.
Huh?UpstateNYer wrote: @absolute: if you want to watch Tucker Carlson Today you need to subscribe to Fox News Nation*….Tucker is not the same during one-hour interviews as he is in the prime time segment. He is quiet for the most part. Listens.
Thanks. Yes, I watched a couple of free longer interviews, and that is what I came away with, too. Not too many talking heads do much listening these days.
I am going to take the weekend off from TAE–a mental health break, I suppose. Doing a bicycle event in Chatham on Sunday, riding with my son in the woods tomorrow. Let my brain clear out some of this constant…whatever it is. See yooze all soon.
Not sure if anyone clicked the link I posted back on page 1, but it is relevant to the Fuller piece, which is an example of what I call the “see, look how fair and impartial I’m being–happy now?” kind of writing. Check out Sagan’s list of “twenty of the most common and perilous ones — many rooted in our chronic discomfort with ambiguity — with examples of each in action:”
I accidentally deleted a portion of my comment relating to the Tucker Carlson Youtube takedown. It leads up to his guest for the show, who he has interviewed in the past. He has on Glenn Greenwald to talk about his new video platform, Rumble. That portion of the show requires membership. I’m seriously thinking about it. Despite his sometimes juvenile and snide asides (and his weird laugh and hairdo) he is one of the few reaching a wider audience who is bringing some of the truth to light.
My turning to Tucker Carlson is a refutation of the idea that we only seek sources that confirm our current position. As the events of the past decade have unfolded, and as I have delved deeper into our energy situation, our financial system, and our economy, I have come to change many of my long-held beliefs and assumptions, and I can see more clearly how information is manipulated, how we are primed to believe fabrications.
Does that make me more prone to fall victim to extremes on the “other” end of the scale? I like to think not. I have often spoken out against promoting unverifiable or illogical info posted here in support of some of our broader viewpoints, with the argument that it actually does much more harm than good in terms of bolstering a particular position.
From reading TAE commentary over time, I suspect many of the contributors here have been on a similar journey.
Regarding confirmation bias, a nifty brain pickings look at “The Fine Art of Baloney Detection,” a chapter in Carl Sagan’s book, The Demon-Haunted World: Science as a Candle in the Dark. In it he provides a “kit” — several series of questions– to sniff out the baloney:
The kit is brought out as a matter of course whenever new ideas are offered for consideration. If the new idea survives examination by the tools in our kit, we grant it warm, although tentative, acceptance. If you’re so inclined, if you don’t want to buy baloney even when it’s reassuring to do so, there are precautions that can be taken; there’s a tried-and-true, consumer-tested method.
Extra bonus!:
In addition to teaching us what to do when evaluating a claim to knowledge, any good baloney detection kit must also teach us what not to do. It helps us recognize the most common and perilous fallacies of logic and rhetoric. Many good examples can be found in religion and politics, because their practitioners are so often obliged to justify two contradictory propositions.
A list of 20 common fallacies follows. In honor of Friday the 13th, here is #13:meaningless question (e.g., What happens when an irresistible force meets an immovable object? But if there is such a thing as an irresistible force there can be no immovable objects, and vice versa)
Happy Friday (the 13th)!
FDACDCUSA authorize boosters for people with transplants:
“This action is about ensuring our most vulnerable … are better protected against COVID-19,” Dr. Rochelle Walensky, director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, said ahead of the FDA’s announcement.
No, Rochelle. You are lying. This action is the first in a series designed to roll out the Booster to everyone everywhere on earth forever.
Tucker rips You Tube:
<script type="text/javascript" src="https://video.foxnews.com/v/embed.js?id=6267707794001&w=466&h=263"></script><noscript>Watch the latest video at foxnews.com</noscript>In case the embed did not work, here is a link that should
This is a clip of last night's program. He apparently has Glenn Greenwald as a guest again, talking about You Tube and censorship.
deflationista wrote:The fundamental problem is that people are seeking confirmation, not information
Let me try to understand what you are attempting to say here.
People only look for …stuff? non-information?– that confirms what they think they already know, having found this out by…absorbing other stuff, non-info,what have you?
So where is this information you seem to regard so highly? You see the problem of your construction? Hint: It makes no sense. (Though it certainly can be read as telling us where you come from, a person with “information.”Me, first, I try to sift through all the “information” out there.
From many sources, from many points of view.
I look at what appears most logical, based on my experience up to now in the world.
I attempt to look at the rawest data we can get hands on.
I also evaluate the source: have they been caught telling oppositeinformation in the past?
Do they constantly blatantly contradict themselves?
Is there money on their side of information?
Do they exhibit signs of intelligence–questioning, curiosity?
Do they have beady eyes and sweat profusely?Geert, via Germ: dominant propagation of highly infectious, neutralization escape mutants (i.e., so-called ‘S Ab-resistant variants’), naturally acquired, or vaccinal neutralizing Abs, will, indeed, no longer offer any protection to immunized individuals whereas high infectious pressure will continue to suppress the innate immune defense system of the nonvaccinated.
darned kids: “i sincerely hope we are wrong, and they are right.”
UpstateNYer:You and me, both. I would love to eat my hat on this, I truly would. Almost everyone I know and love are vaccinated.
Doesn’t Geert’s theory stated above mean that, due to pressure on the virus from the vaccinations, it will also evade our natural immunity–in other words, the unvaxxed, whether previously infected or not, will be more susceptible to incoming variants?Ie, the vaccines screwed everyone equally, not just the vaxxed?
My ex sent me this today regarding our son, after a bizarre text discussion about their recent trip and how one of his aunts tested positive. Gotta run to the office, but may lay it out later. Meanwhile read the science. Lot of scientific jargon, like many, a lot, slammed, tsunami. etc. etc. I started to pull some choice ridiculous quotes, but the whole thing is a solid block of ridiculous. Enjoy. gotta go.
Delta Is Bad News for Kids
More children are falling ill because more are being infected.I’ve never seen a subhead that cancels out the scary headline. Bad editor I guess. Anyway, this is from The Atlantic, where all Covid Coverage is sponsored by Facebook and J&J. Majority owner of Atlantic, BTW, is Lauren Powell Jobs, Steve’s widow, who donated $600,000 to J Biden. And many causes connected to big pharma, she runs a “health fund foundation” Emerson.
The Atlantic’s COVID-19 coverage is supported by grants from the Chan Zuckerberg Initiative and the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation.chooch wrote: Nice Trek BTW, nothing like a powder coated chromoly frame. That is the original burgundy wet paint, not a powder coat. Mine is also still original, but more beat up.
Boogaloo wrote: FWIW Pierre Kory announced that he got Covid this week. So did his daughter. He said he had been taking Ivermectin weekly as a prophylactic, and he got sick on Day 7.
Interesting. The newer protocol for early went from .2 – .4 mg/kg to .4 – .6 mg/kg but the prophylactic dose stayed at .2mg/kg despite Kory having been on this and come down with Covid. Obviously he is in a continual high risk environment.
I wonder if constant use as a prophylactic can eventually make it less effective in the individual taking it?
Also, I do not understand what “he got sick on Day 7” means. Can you give us the context? Day 7 of just starting his prophylactic regime? Because I saw an interview with him months ago where he was on it. Maybe he goes on and off depending? Curious. Glad he only has a mild case. I guess if it breaks through the prophylactic dose you go right to somewhere between .4and.6. and follow the rest of the Early Treatment steps.
Unless you are Deflationista.Then you scoot on over to Rite Aid and get another shot (oops, once they approve the boosters. I think the older folks are in line for that first, though. ) Meanwhile, how about some Tylenol?
Artua wrote:
“How much more useful is today’s bicycle than a bicycle from 100 years ago?” Absolutely ridiculous. I’ve ridden the Himalayas numerous times, and to think a bicycle from 100 years ago could do that. (I was one of the first to do it in the 80’s because no bikes could do it before then.)Congratulations on conquering the Himalayas! You seem to be a fellow lover of the bicycle as perhaps the finest machine we have ever dreamed up. However, I believe you may be missing the spirit in which the comment was made. It was not to be read as a specific timeline of bicycle developments. I believe it was meant to suggest that, like Ivan Illich’s second watershed, at some point along the way, “improvements” don’t really improve much, and in many ways become a detriment and an overcomplication.
The derailleur has been around since the beginning of the 20th Century, and steel bicycles were not all that heavy–and tires were wider back then. I regularly ride a 30+ pound mountain bike up the very steep local mountain–wieight is not that significant to a point.
Although Henri Desgrange, the first promoter of the Tour de France, did not allow derailleurs in the race until the late 1930s, nevertheless riders had long been cresting mighty climbs in both the Alps and the Pyrenees for many years–on a single speed.
I would concur that vintage mountain bikes from the 80s cannot be beat for local transportation. I would post a photo of my latest but can’t recall how I did it last time. Maybe this catalog image of one of my models, currently used to haul my laundry, will show up
John Michael Greer has started hosting a weekly open post discussion on Covid 19:
https://ecosophia.dreamwidth.org/141510.htmlHe writes more prolifically than Joyce Carol Oates, and still puts up a weekly essay with replies to the commentary, as well as daily musings on his subsidiary site (linked above), and all the rest. I’m guessing he is one of those high energy people who does not need much sleep, and/or is incredibly focused throughout the entire day. Possibly also related to his Asperger’s in some way. I observe with awe his immense output.
I second UpstateNYer’s kudos to Oxymoron’s post today.
ctbarnum wrote:Far be it from me to state this, but you [deflationista] are here, why? Did the CDC send you?
I think it’s obvious that, just like our government and its various branches–CDC, NIH, NSA, CNN, MSNBC, GAFAM, NYT, ETC–he’s concerned about us and wants to keep us from harming ourselves. I feel protected knowing he is watching over us and checking in. The adult in the room, as it were. How he puts up with our antics while maintaining his quick wit and hip humor I can’t begin to fathom! God bless!
The Times, trying to explain away worrying trends, pretending like they know something. (It’s beginning of month, so was able to get in and get a link)
“The more infection rates go up in the background, the more you’re going to see disease among people who were immunized,”
“Breakthrough” for Dummies, from the NYT:
As more people get shots, the percentage of hospitalizations and deaths among fully vaccinated people should rise. This may seem counterintuitive, so it’s important to understand why.In a state with a high vaccination rate, a higher percentage of breakthroughs may simply reflect that fully vaccinated people are a bigger chunk of the population, or that there are few hospitalizations and deaths overall. Imagine a state where just two people are hospitalized but both are vaccinated — breakthroughs would account for 100 percent of the hospitalizations in that state, even though these cases were very rare.
To calm people down about the Delta variant, the Times put a big graphic on the front page, saying that 1-5%of hospitalizations and 2-5% of deaths were breakthrough cases. However, a bit further in, we get this:
While vaccines have done a remarkable job at protecting a vast majority of people from serious illness, the data in the Times analysis generally spanned the period from the start of the vaccination campaign until mid-June or July, before the Delta variant became predominant in the United States.Fun with numbers:
Although at least 80 percent of people 65 and older are vaccinated in the United States, surging cases could still present an elevated risk for them. ...then next paragraph, they switch to total population of a single state, NOT percentage over 65:
In Mississippi — where only about 35 percent of the population is fully vaccinated and where infections and hospitalizations have been surging — vaccinated older people and people with weaker immune systems have been overrepresented among those hospitalized and dying, according to the state health department.Message to readers: Not to worry, they may be vaccinated, but they are still the old and weak.
Which, if that is the cohort most likely to get severly ill and die, while most of the rest of the population (to this point) has a very low risk of serious illness or death, why are there vaccines?
It’s basically a free for all, using apples, oranges, and other numbers in whatever way will be most palatable to Times readers.
cafone wrote: I think we can all agree that whatever ADE or Delta variant is/isn’t happening, the ADE meme is growing; and buzz rules media. It can’t ignore buzz.
The Delta variant, yes. But you have seen ADE discussed majorly in a major media source? JMG notwithstanding, many of the “memes” we chat about are completely unknown to the majority of consumers of msm. Not only because the bigger outlets don’t mention them, but because many of the smaller ones get censored.
The reason ADE will have an even tougher row to hoe than Ivermectin or adverse reactions is because it makes the cure worse than the disease, and nobody wants to hear that. I guess we will have to wait for reliable type sources to note some kind of patterns that might make sense and provide us with information.
At this point I will confess that I am addicted, literally, to checking for more news, further developments, new discoveries, new facts about old discoveries, the vain hope that a few msm reporters outside of just Fox will report something resembling truth. I imagine this, like most addictions, to be a not terribly healthy pastime. Although there is some virtual relief knowing there are likeminded individuals floating around out there somewhere. (Apparently, perhaps,a statistically high proportion of them in Portland;^)
Just got back from the grocery store on my way home from work. I was one of the few people without a mask, just like a month and a half ago when they finally stopped requiring one. Eventually, almost nobody had a mask. Including when I shopped four days ago. (The sign says only no mask if you are fully vaccinated. I suspect I would be surrounded by a mob and pelted with fruit and veggies if they knew my status.)
For a while, before Ivermectin, I just rolled with it–I did not seem to fall into the category of people with a high probability of dying. Then I got some Ivermectin and that really gave me a sense of an ace up my sleeve.
Now maybe not as much. Like sumac, I’ve expressed concern about it being rendered ineffective over time. If some of the reports are true, it may have taken quite a leap, especially in how it works on more advanced disease.
So be it. Could we be getting hit with both Marek’s and ADE? If it were Marek’s, JMG’s nightmare scenario for the vaccinated could get flipped…
Either way, two things are clear to me right now:
1. Unleashing these vaccines on the virus was the height of hubris, and has now turned the entire human population into a completely uncontrolled experiment.
2. Statement number one will not be acknowledged in the mainstream narrative. Not in our lifetimes (however long that might be.) And now with even the doctors who were standing up against the system at a loss, the confusion and darkness grows, providing the perfect cover for what might really have happened/be happening.
I do believe the whole mess was human folly and human greed and the need to exert control. Yeah, same as it ever was.
Are we actually just getting into Delta? Or, as Fauci has threatened, is there something new out there? How would we know? At this point–Marek’s, ADE, new variant, just Delta finally hitting U.S., certain pockets of vulnerable people, or all of the above–it is all speculation. There is something strange in the land, softening us up for financial disaster, crop failures, water shortages. Gail Tverberg pointed out a while ago that we simply won’t have the treasure to continue with these massive vaccine campaigns for very long. And Jung pointed out it was our own minds, our own mass psychosis,that was the most dangerous threat.
I’m still a little reluctant to pull out my Ace and take Ivm prophylactically–cause then where do you go if you get it anyway? Still, I plan to live my life as fearlessly as I can, and not get sucked into the techno-medical madness we’ve unleashed. That way is insane, and no way to live a life. The New Hampshire motto is starting to make a lot of sense. May we all stay grounded.
Boogaloo: As I recall MATH+ predated Ivermectin. The protocol with Ivermectin is I-MASK+ isn’t it?
Incorrect. I-Mask+ is the prophylactic and outpatient regimen. Mask+ is the ICU regimen. Both use Ivermectin as a core medicine.
It sounds like, at least for those making it to the ICU with what is currently still being labeled the Delta variant, the standard protocol, including Ivm, is no longer producing positive outcomes. It would be speculation as to why at this point, although it appears the progression of the Delta variant, from first exposure to serious illness, is many times more rapid than the original, which often took a week or more to get to that stage. So something is happening in terms of the velocity of the virus manifesting. The FLCC approach, at both the outpatient and ICU stages, is to treat as rapidly as possible. It may simply be that due to the extra speed of the current virus, by the time people make it to ICU, things are often too far along for the medications to have much effect. But this is wild speculation.
It is also unclear who the lastest casualties are–I hear conflicting reports, with some saying same comorbidities, others reporting worrying trends of healthier younger victims.
Hard to parse this, not sure exactly what the phrase “profound responses from higher doses in prophylaxis and early treatment” means, or what the timeframe is–is this a reference to the increased prophylactic dosage implemented a while back, or yet another, as yet not posted, increase?–,but it sounds like doses will be increasing once again for one or both protocols, a worrying trend for sure. From Dr. Kory’s twitter feed 12 hours ago:
Based on our recent clinical experience along with profound responses from higher doses in prophylaxis and early treatment, we will change our treatment approaches soon. these variants transmit faster and cause severe disease faster, thus we must adapt accordingly
As of July 29, the FLCC website shows Ivermectin kicking butt on Delta. What happened in the last 10 days? And where is the data and info, or is this just frontline docs reporting observations at this point? And as someone said, any parsing of med failures as related to patient’s vaccine status?
Meant to ad, for the past few weeks here, the prevailing info nuggets have suggested that Delta is less virulent, as one might expect/hope based on previous virus behaviors. But now we are seeming to hear otherwise–more serious cases, more kids, and meds being less effective.
It sounds like Kory is saying that Ivermectin is not effective any longer, at least against more advanced cases of the Delta variant? Or could it now be a “sub-variant?”
This has been my concern, the rapidly changing virus evading the overly specialized vaccines, but now also natural immunity and antiviral drugs.
He does seem to suggest, or at least hope, that early intervention with the FLCC protocol still offers some protection.
And then there is another story just below about only 5%of people even being susceptible. I guess at this point you takes your prophylactic and hope for the best.
Is there more info on Kory’s twitter screenshot somewhere?
I remember the commercial from the 1970s, with a Native American standing at the side of the road as a car drives by and flings out a bag of garbage at his feet. Or something like that. It may have been part of the Give a Hoot, Don’t Pollute campaign.
But the Native American was played by an Italian, and it wasn’t so much the bag of paper garbage that was the problem, as it was the car that it was tossed out of. From the extraction of the materials to make it to the fuel that runs it to the roadways that allowed humans to create a vast sprawling network to the shopping opportunities it created and then became dependent on to keep the “economy” afloat, truly one of the worst manifestations of human ingenuity ever. (And turns out, the oil companies were already aware of the carbon thing being a bit of a stickler.)
But oh well! Here we are. This is what happens when you pour vast unchecked amounts of highly concentrated energy into a system–biological organisms are going to use that energy at the fastest rate possible. Humans, despite our recent fantasies and denials, are biological organisms.
I long ago stopped looking at it as “us” and “them.” Sure, there are the big baddies that have lots of money and power and “control” things (and as Ivan Illich showed, the more energy, the greater the inequity) and there are those that protest this “injustice” and then the masses who are basically trying to survive and hope their children do not drown seeking a better existence. (Side note: In the United States, motor vehicle crashes are a leading cause of death among children. In 2018, 636 children 12 years old and younger died in motor vehicle traffic crashes, and more than 97,000 were injured.)
But overall, we are simply part of a system. And no one individual can change that system. Dimitri Orlov calls it the technosphere, and uses what is perhaps a metaphor, or perhaps he believes it to be a self-actualized creature. In any event, we all have roles to fulfill, based on where we were born, our genetic capabilities, how we were raised, and what fate, circumstance, luck etc. brings down the pike for us.
Obviously mathematically most of us will be unknown unheralded extras on this stage, not Muhammad Ali or Miley Cyrus or Hunter Biden or Ghandi. The ever increasing energy inputs allow more of us to be born and survive, up to a point.
But as the Limits to Growth study foresaw, we are hitting that point. And now we begin the de-energizing of the current global civilization. It will be particularly messy because A. there are so many of us and B. we have so many methods of killing one another.
I share our hosts frustration with the various ineffectual and hypocritical protest movements, and they often do play right into the hands of the “elite”–I’m looking at you, Greta. That kind of naive sentimentality is easily employed by those wishing to present a veneer of “action” and “protest.”
But it is equally sentimental to talk about “saving the planet.” I’m not the first to say it, but the planet does not need saving. And the hubris required to believe the human race is even remotely up to the task is quite plentiful.
I lean toward John Michael Greer’s long view take on that–the planet’s climate is changing, the current civilization is waning. We will undoubtedly lose some magnificent species and whole habitats on the down cycle. But humans will most likely make it through, albeit in much smaller numbers, to create new societies for at least some time into the future. How this will play out in terms of the particulars is anybody’s guess. But we are definitely in the midst of a big bump down!
Many would be tempted to take a nihilistic approach, which is understandable. Raul mentions faith in our leaders. That is most definitely not the place to put faith. But much of humanity has lost touch not just with nature, but with the strength and inspiration nature provides to build a life of faith.
So that is what we can do. Try to create a life that we believe in, based on whatever moral or ethical or spiritual compass we are charting by. It could involve helping others in some way (always excellent for getting out of one’s own self-inflicted miseries), living a simple life, taking care of things around us as best as we can–whatever meshes with your beliefs. But it definitely takes Action and Intent and Effort to build faith and reap the benefits. And don’t expect it to save the world. It might help save a piece of your sanity.;^)
Fauci says ‘hopefully’ making young kids wear masks won’t have ‘lasting negative impact’
Delta variant is filling up pediatric hospitals and seems more threatening, Fauci saidFauci: “Now we’re tracking that, the CDC is tracking that really very carefully, so it’s going to be a balance that we would feel very badly if we all of a sudden said OK, kids, don’t wear masks, then you find out retrospectively that this virus in a very, very strange and unusual way is really hitting kids really hard,” he continued. “But hopefully, this will be a temporary thing, temporary enough that it doesn’t have any lasting negative impact on them.”
this virus in a very, very strange and unusual way is really hitting kids really hard. Dr.Fauci, can we ask you to translate that into your native tongue? You know, Science? Go ahead, we’ll wait.
upstateNYer: Since no data has been accurate in the past 18 months, why believe the blather-ers blathering on about duration of natural immunity following infection? Aren’t these the same blather-ers who are pushing the vaxx??
No. That’s what was puzzling, and led to my comment about totally opposite statements from the same “side”–in this case the people who are questioning the vaccines are at the same time claiming that natural immunity only lasts 6 months or so. Check out that Eric Topol interview a couple of pages back.
I don’t think I ever got it, though my ex claimed she had it. She got a positive test. She slept for a day or two. That’s about it. Our 11-year old son went back and forth between us. She wanted him to wear a mask around me. I said uh uh. I pray some of the truth about these vaccines breaks through to the msm. Otherwise she is taking him for the jab on his birthday this fall.
Another thing that irks (and I may have mentioned it) I volunteered to go around delivering groceries to people in the early months–including, it turned out, perfectly healthy people 30 years younger than me–when the streets were practically empty and everyone thought they might die.I even had to drop some groceries at the end of driveways so long I could not see the freaking house. Now those same people that I delivered to are demonizing me for not getting vaxxified.
Well, the assniffers at youtube took down Germ’s video.
I am seeing the censorship becoming ever more blatant. That video mentions studies that show masks don’t work against aerosols. Someone posted a comment about mask studies was removed–AND REPLACED WITH AN INFO PARAGRAPH SHOWING STUDIES THAT MASKS DO WORK.
By the way, did anyone notice in that Eric Topol interview, it is mentioned several times that natural immunity goes away within 6 months. I swear both “sides” are messing with minds.
I just pray that the vaccine-created variants do not fuck up the effectiveness of Ivermectin. Which, given all the conflicting info flying around, not only between both “sides” but also oppositeland within the same camp, I am going to start taking prophylactically. This is getting out of control ridiculous.
I wonder if another black swan is lurking. Some have said a financial collapse is imminent. Whatever.
The way this Covid thing has been handled, the way people have reacted, shows that we are woefully unprepared physically, spiritually, mentally for the inescapable rough times ahead. The total acceptance by so many people I thought would think and behave better is depressing. They have been blinded by a bad bad stew of “science”, the myth of progress, and fear.
By the way, UpstaterNYer, nobody in NYC ever said youse guys in the 20 years I lived there. Maybe in 1930s gangster movies. Or New Jersey.
The correlation here is clear enough, and the polling buffers the idea of a real connection. The jump in vaccinations is happening as concern about the virus is rising once again.
The polling is simply the government and its media agencies tracking the effectiveness of its propaganda campaigns. Remember “15 days to flatten the curve?” We’ve been barraged with fear-inducing messages for a year and a half straight. I wish there were a way to help the unvaxxed who do have access to or know about resources like TAE make a decision based on factual evidence and not the blaring sirens of mass media fear porn.
At the end of yesterday’s comments I wrote that it seemed like Fauci was setting the table to blame a possible upcoming onslaught on the unvaxxed. The Pfizer announcement posted above, saying that the fight against the virus should include anti-virals (really now?) and not just vaccines, furthers my suspicion that they are trying to paint the unvaxxed as the cause of any new covid waves.
Dr. Anthony Fauci: “The time has come [when] we’ve got to go the extra step to get people vaccinated.”
Ah, the “extra step.” Spoken like the true leader of unfree humanity. Who will be following Herr Fauci’s orders to go the extra step? We know most big corporations will be mandating as soon as the FDA finishes up its rigorous, objective, scientific, non-political testing, based on all the meticulous and fine grain data it has amassed over these past 18 months. But what about the military? I suspect a few Republican governors will resist. And some motorcycle riders.Call it conformation bias, call it hard-headed knuckle headedness, but the more these dangerous freaks insist I get vaccinated, the harder I dig in and say fux no, freakos.
My local weekly newspaper has a banner feature across the top of the front page touting some pithy message — Special Fathers Day and Grads Gift Section, or Please Wear A Mask –it’s Not Much To Ask! This week it was Delay Can Be Fatal — Get Vaccinated Now! I guess Fauci called.
Mr. Roboto wrote: I would blame the Delta Variant rather than ADE from the vaccines for the effects showing up in these hospitals.
Yes, but Fauci knows about Delta–he is talking about a new, as yet unknown (or supposedly as yet unknown–I imagine he is getting reports, such as they are, from various on the ground sources). If what DBS says is happening–serious, sudden disease and death among healthy young people–that is not Delta, no matter how you multiply it.
So it is either this ADE phenomenon which Fauci is setting up to be a deadly variant (though since unvaxxed are supposedly suffering in equal measure, that is probably not the case) or it actually is some hyper killing variant that has gone against the natural inclination of viruses, which is to become less virulent as they mutate. Which would not necessarily be surprising, since all bets are off now that we’ve added some weird half-assed leaky vaccine into the mix.
Oops, somehow the link did not show up.
Fauci warns more severe COVID-19 variant could emerge as cases rise: US ‘could really be in trouble’
Love the Pink Flyodd^^^^
Fauci warns more severe COVID-19 variant could emerge as cases rise: US ‘could really be in trouble’
The article refers to “sub-variants.” That sounds…scientific. Sure it does.
It’s Fauci’s fear that the variant could mutate even further into a deadlier strain as the virus continues to spread. ,,,
“If we don’t crush the outbreak to the point of getting the overwhelming proportion of the population vaccinated, then what will happen is the virus will continue to smolder through the fall into the winter, giving it ample chance to get a variant which, quite frankly, we’re very lucky that the vaccines that we have now do very well against the variants – particularly against severe illness,” he said. “We’re very fortunate that that’s the case. There could be a variant that’s lingering out there that can push aside delta.”…
I smell a back story set-up here–as more and more vaccinated get the covid and get seriously ill and die (not even counting any unknown ADE type scenario) he is setting up the unvaxxed to take full blame. I like that he doesn’t talk jargon to us non-scientific folk –“overwhelming proportion of the population.” Sure doc.
The scary thing to me is, we here at TAE get the sense that all the lies are about to come tumbling down. But outside of a few pockets, I do not see any change in people’s understanding of the situation. The hook of fear is in so deep their instincts will not let them pull it out, afraid more of that damage than anything else.
We are living a freaking real-life Simpsons episode. I could not stop laughing. If I did I probably would have cried. The scene where Homer tosses the cat in a plastic ziplock. Genius. Watch For These Symptoms: Mild thirst or hunger, tiredness in the evening.
As somewhat of an aside, I think what makes so many comments extra really frustrating is the separation into pages. I’ve inquired previously if this is something that can be changed with the theme setting or a widget or whatever. Obviously it would not do anything about the content of posts;^) But if one could keep the finger on the down arrow until something promising comes up, I believe that would alleviate a lot of the angst. If nothing else, it would A. save time and B. make it slightly easier to go back to a day’s thread and find something again.
The firings are picking up steam:
CNN fires unvaccinated employees for going to office
Remember the good old days, when you would be fired for NOT going to the office?…
I am certainly willing to be wrong about the vaccine death rate or the 1 out of 3 dying from ADE–in fact I leave it open as a horribly possibility. My point is always to be as factual as we can in these weird times.
Not sure if I mentioned this before, but a colleague on the West Coast has a daughter who suffered severe neurological damage within days of receiving a vaccine. She is confined to a wheelchair at the moment. In her thirties, perfectly healthy, a runner, no comorbidities. But my colleague tells me her doctor doesn’t think it was the vaccine. Uh huh.
Mr House wrote:
“Other than feeling crappy for a day, maybe two, nobody has died. ”Funny, i could say the same about it which shall not be named.
Me too! That was my point.
Oops, sorry! Got my dem confused with deflation! But whatever. Great to have dissenting views, but it helps when there is a way toward dialog that is constructive in some fashion. My comment was mostly toward recent commentary by the deflationista persona.
It is perhaps unfortunate that my post follows that of our friend democratis.Their post was not up while I composed mine. I am not lending any support to their stance–in fact I am trying to suggest removal of any fodder for their mill. I understand their completely mainstream views, but if you are going to join a discussion consisting of people who hold almost diametrically opposed beliefs, it is advisable to do so with some sort of reason, not to mention at least a touch of wit, humor, or intelligence–please pick at least one–and not snot-nosed antagonism.
With 1-10% reported.
• 20,595 Dead, 1.9 Million Injured in EU Database of Adverse Reactions (GR)
So you are implying that the real number of deaths could be between 200,000 and 2 million, in what the site claims is roughly half of Europe. That to me sounds absurd.
That to me is the same kind of fear propaganda employed by the “other side.” As I have mentioned, most people within my circle of family and friends have been vaccinated. Other than feeling crappy for a day, maybe two, nobody has died.
I don’t doubt people do die, but not in the numbers implied, and I suspect it is within the same cohort that the disease itself takes out. Also, I saw no mention of the 1 to 10 percent reported in the link. I believe that is a figure bandied about for the U.S. based VAERS. Is it also “true” of the Euro reporting system? Lets also keep in mind, just like the fact that someone dying from something other than Covid but with Covid is counted in the body count, the vaccine reaction reporting is subject to similar error.
In my opinion, this kind of wild speculation might as well be a plant to discredit “anti-vaxxers.”
I feel similar about the rampant ADE speculation– 1 in 3 dying?! Let’s hope not because that will be a horror show beyond horror shows. And there is no sense in discussing such a scenario at this time. We have enough to be concerned about. It is fear porn, which we have no shortage of at tthe moment. Please, let’s take a breath. A little restraint would go a long way here.
I did very much enjoy the links yesterday to the long essay by Charles E. and the video interview with Mark Crispin Miller. A banquet of food for thought. Great insights well formulated.
