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  • in reply to: Debt Rattle February 23 2020 #54302
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    This obviously has huge implications. From the SCMP today:

    Coronavirus: Wuhan to quarantine all cured patients for 14 days after some test positive again

    The authorities in Wuhan on Saturday introduced 14 days’ mandatory quarantine for recovered coronavirus patients, after some discharged patients again tested positive…

    In the southwestern city of Chengdu, a patient initially discharged on February 10, after meeting the standard for having recovered, was readmitted to hospital nine days later when they tested positive again during a check-up.

    In another case in Changde, a city in Hunan province in central China, a woman tested positive on February 9, five days after she was released from quarantine at a local hospital having tested negative in two previous laboratory tests.

    Meanwhile, in the southern city of Guangzhou, the coronavirus was found in stool samples from a small number of discharged patients, South Metropolitan Daily reported on Saturday.

    https://www.scmp.com/news/china/society/article/3051966/coronavirus-wuhan-quarantine-all-cured-patients-14-days-after

    in reply to: Debt Rattle February 23 2020 #54298
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    Some more quotes from Roger Water’s speech at yesterday’s rally for Assange:

    This last year we have seen major protests erupt across the whole world against neoliberal/fascist regimes. In Chile, The Lebanon, Colombia, Ecuador, Haiti,France and now, of course also in Bolivia fighting the new US imposed military dictatorship there.

    When will we see the name of England appended to that noble list? I sense the scratching of heads in drawing rooms across the home counties, “What’s he talking about, the man’s a bloody pinkopervert, bloody anti semite, what’s he talking about? We don’t live in a dictatorship, this is a free country, a democracy, with all the finest traditions of fair play, pah!”

    Well, I’ve got news for you Disgruntled of Tunbridge Wells. We’d like to think this is a free country, but are we really free? Why, when Julian Assange is brought to the dock in the tiny magistrates court inside Belmarsh prison are so many seats occupied by anonymous American suits, whispering instructions into the attentive ear of the prosecution’s lead barrister, James Lewis QC?

    Why?

    Because we don’t live in a free country, we live in a glorified dog kennel and we bark and/or wag our tails at the bidding of our lords and masters across the pond.

    I stand here today, in front of the Mother of Parliaments, and there she stands blushing in all her embarrassment. And just upstream from here is Runnemede, where in 1215, we, the English, laid out the rudiments of common law. Magna Carta, ratified in 1297 article 29 of which gave us Habeus Corpus. Or did it? It stated:

    “The body of a free man is not to be arrested, or imprisoned, or outlawed, or exiled, or in any way ruined, nor is the king to go against him or send forcibly against him, except by judgment of his peers or by the law of the land.”

    Sadly, Article 29 is not enforceable in modern law. Magna Carta is only an idea, and in this propaganda driven modern world, it provides no check in principle to Parliament legislating against the rights of citizens.

    We do however have an extradition treaty with the USA and in the first paragraph of article 4 of that treaty it states. “Extradition shall not be granted if the offense for which extradition is requested is a political offense.” Julian Assange has committed no crime but he has committed a political act. He has spoken truth to power. He has angered some of our masters in Washington by telling the truth and in retribution for the act of telling the truth they want his blood.

    …There are other speakers here, so I will make way, I could stand here all day railing against the dying of the light should we not stand Bulldog like, with arms linked, ranks closed in front of our brother and comrade Julian Assange. And when the lackies of the American Empire come to take him, to destroy him and hang him in the hedge as a warning to frighten future journalists, we will look them in the eye and steadfast with one voice we will intone.

    “Over our dead fucking bodies.”

    Roger Waters Feb 22nd 2020

    <a href=”https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2020/02/roger-waters-on-julian-assange/&#8221; rel=”noopener”

    in reply to: Debt Rattle February 23 2020 #54296
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    Mortality rate for closed cases outside of China = 9%
    (with the caveat that the calculation, as outlined below, was done with official numbers)

    Mortality rate for closed cases outside of China =
    (Deaths outside of China) / (Closed cases outside of China) = 9%

    Note:
    Closed cases = Deaths + Recovered

    in reply to: Debt Rattle February 23 2020 #54275
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    Ilargi: “…mortality rate for closed cases is still 10%!“

    That 10% is the worldwide rate. I haven’t seen what the rate is outside of China, where there are still relatively few cases per country, and the healthcare systems aren’t overloaded yet. So I did the simple math and got this result:

    Mortality rate for closed cases (outside of China) = 9%

    in reply to: Debt Rattle February 22 2020 #54223
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    Three days ago, an epidemiologist published this article suggesting 21 days:

    While the World Health Organization (WHO) estimates the incubation period of COVID-19 could be up to 14 days, this upper limit was actually observed for a small proportion of cases of SARS. In the context of an accelerating COVID-19 epidemic and growing uncertainty, a higher upper limit (possibly 21 days) for the incubation period seems reasonable and warranted in the interest of adequately protecting the public.

    Is 14 Days Long Enough to Contain COVID-19?
    Not getting incubation period right could defeat purpose of quarantining

    https://www.medpagetoday.com/infectiousdisease/generalinfectiousdisease/84963

    in reply to: Debt Rattle February 22 2020 #54221
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    Meanwhile, Coronavirus incubation could be as long as 27 days, Chinese provincial government says.

    SHANGHAI (Reuters) – A 70-year-old man in China’s Hubei Province was infected with coronavirus but did not show symptoms until 27 days later, the local government said on Saturday, meaning the virus’ incubation period could be much longer than the presumed 14 days.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-health-incubation/coronavirus-incubation-could-be-as-long-as-27-days-chinese-provincial-government-says-idUSKCN20G06W

    in reply to: Debt Rattle February 22 2020 #54220
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    The CDC is still sticking with the 14-day incubation period and quarantine. From the transcript of yesterday’s press conference:

    Yesterday, nearly all of the remaining people who returned from Wuhan, China, via state department chartered flights, who have been quarantined at four department of defense installations across the U.S. have completed their 14-day quarantine. We are truly thankful to those released from quarantine for their cooperation and patience and wish them well as they return to home, work, and school. I want to be clear that someone who has been released from quarantine is not at risk for spreading the virus to others. Specifically, they are not infected.

    …what we would consider the incubation period, which we know to be 10 to 14 days.

    https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2020/t0221-cdc-telebriefing-covid-19.html

    in reply to: Debt Rattle February 21 2020 #54180
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    “Striking how little has changed, other then the 30c for a full lunch, and the fast food competition.”

    Something else has changed, as shown in the Debt Rattle photo from a few days ago (which I presume was taken by Jack Delano at the same diner in Washington DC)

    Jack Delano, Entrance to colored drivers’ lunchroom at truck service station on U.S. 1 (New York Avenue) 1940

    in reply to: Go Forth and Multiply #54138
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    Some more details about Assange and the potential asylum in France (translated from French). There are also efforts to get him asylum in Switzerland.

    “We are of course working on the possibility of asking the French authorities for political asylum, our Constitution allows it, we have an example”, “the political asylum granted to Ayatollah Khomeini “, added the lawyer, admitting that this was “not the best example”.

    The two French lawyers joined the Assange international defense team about a month ago, alongside Belgian, British, Spanish and American lawyers, under the coordination of former Spanish judge Baltasar Garzon, also present at the conference.

    A first asylum request in France made by the former counsel of Julian Assange, Juan Branco, had not been completed. An asylum application has also just been made to Switzerland by NGOs.

    On the choice of France, Me Dupond-Moretti put forward criteria of professional connection, part of the structures of Wikileaks is hosted in France, and personal. Julian Assange lived in the country from 2007 to 2010, his second child, still a minor, and the mother of this child are of French nationality and reside in the country.

    https://www.lepoint.fr/monde/dupond-moretti-veut-demander-l-asile-politique-pour-assange-a-emmanuel-macron-20-02-2020-2363736_24.php

    in reply to: Go Forth and Multiply #54133
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    A study published today by The Lancet looks at Africa.

    We used data on the volume of air travel departing from airports in the infected provinces in China and directed to Africa to estimate the risk of importation per country. We determined the country’s capacity to detect and respond to cases with two indicators: preparedness, …and vulnerability…

    Countries with the highest importation risk (ie, Egypt, Algeria, and South Africa) have moderate to high capacity to respond to outbreaks. Countries at moderate risk (ie, Nigeria, Ethiopia, Sudan, Angola, Tanzania, Ghana, and Kenya) have variable capacity and high vulnerability.

    https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)30411-6/fulltext

    in reply to: Debt Rattle February 19 2020 #54105
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    Coming soon, to a hospital near boscohorowitz?
    Hotel getaway: Oregon comedian quarantined amid cruise ship virus sneaks flight to Seattle

    An Oregon comedian who had been stranded on a Holland America cruise ship in Cambodia due to COVID-19 virus concerns managed to get a flight back home by breaking quarantine in a hotel where ship’s passengers were being held pending test results.

    Frank King arrived at Sea-Tac Airport Monday afternoon on his way home to Eugene…

    Some passengers had been put up in a five-star hotel in Phnom Penh awaiting travel home when the news of the positive test hit, meaning those on board and those at the hotel would have to all be tested and await results before being allowed to leave. But King, who says he had an important speaking engagement back in the U.S. decided he couldn’t wait…

    “There was no official ‘you can’t leave’ (at the hotel) but if you tried to go out the front door with your luggage, security would stop you,” King said. “But if you went out with your backpack and you were sightseeing, not a problem…”

    “So I thought, you know, I’m outta here,” he said. King said he first walked around the entire hotel scoping out security and noted lesser security was along the back gate. “So out I go the back gate with my luggage,” he said.

    King says he was stopped by someone and repeatedly told he was not to leave, but he refused to comply unless he was going to be arrested and instead got into a waiting three-wheeled tuk-tuk, even carrying his luggage on his shoulders, to get to the airport.

    He says he chose to fly back on his own on a more full-service airline, even purchasing a full-price, upgraded ticket as not to raise suspicion that he was trying to quickly leave the country at the last minute as cheaply as possible.

    King said he sailed through the airports on his three connecting flights, only being asked if he had been to China, and had a rental car reserved in Seattle to get home to Eugene if he couldn’t fly from here.

    https://katu.com/news/nation-world/man-stranded-on-coronavirus-infected-cruise-ship-arrives-at-sea-tac-airport

    in reply to: Debt Rattle February 17 2020 #54054
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    A large percentage of vitamins and other supplements come from China, too. For example, “An estimated 95% of the world’s vitamin C is produced in China (according to vitamin distributors).”

    in reply to: Debt Rattle February 17 2020 #54043
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    DiEM25 demands: no extradition of Julian Assange to the United States
    https://diem25.org/diem25-demands-no-extradition-of-julian-assange-to-the-united-states/

    in reply to: Debt Rattle February 16 2020 #54017
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    The NYT has some more reporting on that story. The American woman in Malaysia tested positive twice for the coronavirus, and “the flights taken by the [other] passengers from Kuala Lumpur substantially increased the risk of a global pandemic.”

    An American woman who disembarked from a cruise ship in Cambodia last week has tested positive twice for the coronavirus since flying on to Malaysia, officials in that country said on Sunday.

    Cambodia allowed the ship, the Westerdam, to dock after five other countries turned it away over concerns about the coronavirus. Officials said that more than 140 other passengers from the Westerdam had flown from Cambodia to the airport in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia’s capital. All but eight had been allowed to continue to their destinations, including airports in the United States, the Netherlands and Australia.

    Eyal Leshem, the director of the Center for Travel Medicine and Tropical Diseases at the Sheba Medical Center in Israel, called the disclosures “extremely concerning” and said the flights taken by the passengers from Kuala Lumpur substantially increased the risk of a global pandemic. “We may end up with three or four countries with sustained transmission of the virus,” he said.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/16/world/asia/china-coronavirus.html

    in reply to: Debt Rattle February 16 2020 #54016
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    Some more news about the cruise ship passengers who flew to Malaysia where one tested positive for Covid-19. All 145 passengers on that flight are considered close contacts, but 137 of them have already taken flights to somewhere else. There seems to be too much reliance on negative test results, and too much reliance on “asymptomatic” to mean “uninfected”.

    “All 145 passengers who arrived onboard that flight were screened; two of them showed symptoms on the thermal scanner and were brought to Hospital Sungai Buloh for further tests,” the DPM said…“As such all other passengers on the flight are considered close contacts,” she said. Following this, the airline cancelled the three remaining chartered flights.

    However, it was said that 137 of the 145 passengers who arrived here on MH8763, have boarded flights to other destinations. Six others are still awaiting connecting flights. “These six will be tested for Covid-19. If they test negative, they will be allowed to continue with their journey. If found positive, they will be warded at the hospital and monitored,“ she said.

    https://www.thesundaily.my/local/no-more-passengers-from-infected-cruise-ship-will-be-allowed-to-enter-malaysia-dpm-XB2012734

    in reply to: Debt Rattle February 16 2020 #54015
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    News from Africa. I’m reminded of what the CDC said earlier, “Negative test results can provide a false sense of security.”

    People in contact with Egypt’s first recorded coronovirus case, a Chinese national, tested negative for symptoms in an examination conducted Saturday… no Egyptians returning from China were found to be infected.

    Medical sources said that none of the Egyptians returning from Wuhan showed symptoms, and that their quarantine will end on Tuesday.

    A security cordon was imposed by police 500 meters around the Nagelah Central Hospital in all directions, barring all entry or departure without a proper permit from Health Ministry.

    https://egyptindependent.com/contacts-with-egypts-first-coronavirus-case-test-negative-for-symptoms-health-ministry/

    in reply to: Debt Rattle February 15 2020 #53979
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    Some snippets from yesterday’s press conference with the CDC, which gives hints of things to come:

    There are more than 600 people still under quarantine in the United States.
    If a person tests negative once, it’s not clear that it’s a true negative.
    Negative test results can provide a false sense of security.
    It could mean the virus hasn’t established itself sufficiently in the system to be detected by test.

    The kind of things that we’re talking about are community led level decisions. For example, in general, social distancing, school closures, cancelling mass gatherings, sort of nonpharmaceutical interventions. We’re talking about things like telemedicine, teleschooling, teleworking, so that at a societal level we try to disrupt the spread. In a situation like this where we don’t have a vaccine and we don’t yet have a specific countermeasure, those kind of nonpharmaceutical interventions at a community level are really important… working closely across all of government and with our local and state partners on planning for those operations.

    https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2020/t0214-covid-19-update.html.html

    in reply to: Debt Rattle February 15 2020 #53977
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    About the Japanese fellow who was symptomatic in Hawaii… The NYT reports that after he returned to Japan on Feb 7, he developed pneumonia and made three trips to the hospital before being diagnosed on Feb 14. His wife, who had traveled to Hawaii with him, developed a fever and was confirmed to have the virus on Feb 15.

    The man fell ill during the second week of his vacation in Hawaii. At the time, officials said, the couple was staying at a time-share in Honolulu, on the island of Oahu. Before that, the couple had been in Maui, but the man showed no symptoms while he was there. It remained unclear if the woman showed any symptoms while on vacation.

    Officials said that the man began showing signs of illness on Feb. 3, and wore a mask when he went outside the time-share, the Grand Waikikian by Hilton Grand Vacations, in the Waikiki neighborhood of Honolulu. Representatives for Hilton did not respond to a message seeking more information.

    Several days later, on Feb. 7, the couple returned to Nagoya, Japan’s fourth-largest city. A day later, the man visited a hospital after developing a fever, but he was not admitted, Japan’s health ministry said. He learned he had pneumonia two days later, but was again released from a hospital.

    On Thursday, he was taken in an ambulance to a hospital for the third time, and Hawaii health officials learned on Friday morning that he had tested positive for the coronavirus. His wife also went to the hospital on Friday with a fever, and on Saturday, she was also confirmed to have the virus.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/14/us/coronavirus-hawaii-japan.html

    in reply to: Debt Rattle February 14 2020 #53936
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    “A fifth case of novel coronavirus has been revealed in B.C. [Canada] on Friday. The woman is in her 30s and flew into YVR from Shanghai recently, before driving to her home in the B.C. Interior region. Four cases are in the Vancouver Coastal Health region; those patients are in stable condition and are still recovering in isolation at home”

    https://www.vancouverisawesome.com/vancouver-news/fifth-case-coronavirus-confirmed-bc-2094855

    in reply to: China Cedes Virus Control #53904
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    “95 percent of U.S. imports of ibuprofen, 91 percent of U.S. imports of hydrocortisone, 70 percent of U.S. imports of acetaminophen, 40 to 45 percent of U.S. imports of penicillin, and 40 percent of U.S. imports of heparin, according to the Commerce Department. In total, 80 percent of the U.S. supply of antibiotics are made in China.”

    I had no idea that the US (and perhaps most countries in the world) are so dependent on “Chinese medicine”.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle February 12 2020 #53870
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    There are currently 60,373 confirmed cases and 1,369 deaths from the Wuhan Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV) outbreak as of February 13, 2020, 03:50 GMT

    If you focus on the worldwide reported “Cases with Outcome” (outcome being either Recovered/Discharged or Death), then the mortality rate is 18%.

    There are currently 60,373 confirmed cases and 1,369 deaths from the Wuhan Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV) outbreak as of February 13, 2020, 03:50 GMT… “Total Cases” = total cumulative count (60,373). This figure therefore includes deaths and recovered/discharged patients (cases with an outcome). By removing these from the “total cases” figure, we get “currently infected cases” (cases still awaiting for an outcome)…

    Currently Infected
    52,972
    Mild Condition
    44,753
    (84%)
    Serious or Critical
    8,219
    (16%)

    Cases with Outcome
    7,401
    Recovered/Discharged
    6,032
    (82%)
    Deaths
    1,369
    (18%)

    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-cases/

    An alternative method, which has the advantage of not having to estimate a variable, and that is mentioned in the American Journal of Epidemiology study cited previously as a simple method that nevertheless could work reasonably well if the hazards of death and recovery at any time t measured from admission to the hospital, conditional on an event occurring at time t, are proportional, would be to use the formula:

    CFR = deaths / (deaths + recovered)

    which, with the latest data available, would be equal to:

    1,369 / (1,369 + 6,032) = 18% CFR (worldwide)

    If we now exclude cases in mainland China, using current data on deaths and recovered cases, we get:

    2 / (2 + 76) = 2.6% CFR (outside of mainland China)

    The sample size above is extremely limited, but this discrepancy in mortality rates, if confirmed as the sample grows in size, could be explained with a higher case detection rate outside of China especially with respect to Wuhan, where priority had to be initially placed on severe and critical cases, given the ongoing emergency.

    Unreported cases would have the effect of decreasing the denominator and inflating the CFR above its real value. For example, assuming 10,000 total unreported cases in Wuhan and adding them back to the formula, we would get a CFR of 7.9% (quite different from the CFR of 18% based strictly on confirmed cases).

    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-death-rate/

    in reply to: Debt Rattle February 12 2020 #53859
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    Subprime Auto Loans, Serious Delinquencies Soar. These Are the Good Times (WS)

    Car payment calculator
    What’s your credit score?
    Subprime (501-600)
    Based on your score, the average rate is 11.89% (new) or 16.14% (used).

    No sympathy for the banks, they set the interest rates high enough to make a good return, despite the defaults.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle February 11 2020 #53836
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    VietnamVet: “At a 1% mortality rate and a failed quarantine, around 3.3 million Americans will die.”

    For some perspective, I looked up the ‘normal’ death rate for the US, and it’s almost 1% (2.8 million deaths in 2017).

    in reply to: Debt Rattle February 11 2020 #53821
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    Getting uglier…

    “Workers at March Air Reserve Base [California] and their families have been verbally attacked in person and on social media by people fearing their proximity to the 195 Americans under quarantine at the base…”

    Workers at coronavirus quarantine base accosted amid unfounded fears of spreading virus
    https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-02-10/coronavirus-quarantine-workers-accosted-amid-unfounded-fears-of-spreading-virus

    But wait, what about the 24 day incubation (not 14 days)?

    Coronavirus quarantine to end for 195 people who flew into Riverside County two weeks ago
    https://www.desertsun.com/story/news/health/2020/02/11/coronavirus-quarantine-lift-195-people-riverside-county/4713985002/

    in reply to: Debt Rattle February 9 2020 #53724
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    At 1:55 in that video, the coughing woman answers Yes to the question “Have you been in Wuhan, China, in the past two (2) weeks?”

    in reply to: Debt Rattle February 9 2020 #53723
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    This video from the CDC is not confidence inspiring. A coughing woman at the airport. Minimal precautions taken by staff.

    Public Health Screenings at U.S. Airports for 2019 Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV)
    January 23, 2020
    Hartsfield-Jackson Atlanta International Airport – International Terminal – CDC Quarantine Station – CDC Enhanced Health Screening to identify sick travelers and limit the spread of 2019 Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV).

    https://www.cdc.gov/media/video/b-roll/314659_Broll%20Package_ver3.mp4

    (No audio, video is in public domain and meant for TV news to overdub.)

    in reply to: Corona Lockdown Fallout #53663
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    “CDC has the legal authority to detain any person who may have an infectious disease that is specified by Executive Order to be quarantinable.”


    https://www.cdc.gov/quarantine/quarantine-stations-us.html

    in reply to: Debt Rattle February 7 2020 #53657
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    About the ages of the coronavirus victims. “Young healthy people can have very mild symptoms that may manifest as a cold.”

    Age and conditions of Coronavirus cases

    According to China’s National Health Commission (NHC), about 80% of those who died were over the age of 60 and 75% of them had pre-existing health conditions such as cardiovascular diseases and diabetes.

    According to the WHO Situation Report no. 7 issued on Jan. 27:
    The median age of cases detected outside of China is 45 years, ranging from 2 to 74 years.
    71% of cases were male.

    The WHO, in its Myth busters FAQs, addresses the question: “Does the new coronavirus affect older people, or are younger people also susceptible?” by answering that:
    People of all ages can be infected by the new coronavirus (2019-nCoV).
    Older people, and people with pre-existing medical conditions (such as asthma, diabetes, heart disease) appear to be more vulnerable to becoming severely ill with the virus.

    February 6:
    2 new cases in Canada (British Columbia): a man and a woman in their 30s. The man displayed only mild symptoms. Health officials said that young healthy people can have very mild symptoms that may manifest as a cold.

    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

    in reply to: The Big Lockdown #53564
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    Today the Lancet mentioned the use of nutrient supplements, and zinc (“safe, cheap, and readily available”).

    Specific drugs to treat 2019-nCoV will take several years to develop and evaluate. In the meantime, a range of existing host-directed therapies that have proven to be safe could potentially be repurposed to treat 2019-nCoV infection. Several marketed drugs with excellent safety profiles such as metformin, glitazones, fibrates, sartans, and atorvastin, as well as nutrient supplements and biologics could reduce immunopathology, boost immune responses, and prevent or curb ARDS. Zinc and other metal-containing formulations appear to have anti-viral activity, are safe, cheap, and readily available. These formulations could be used as adjuncts to monotherapy or as combinational therapies with cyclosporine, lopinavir–ritonavir, interferon beta‑1b, ribavirin, remdesivir, monoclonal antibodies, and anti-viral peptides targeting 2019-nCoV.11 Tocilizumab, a monoclonal antibody that targets the interleukin 6 receptor, has a good safety profile. Monoclonal and polyclonal antibodies to 2019-nCoV could be developed for post-exposure prophylaxis.

    https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)30305-6/fulltext

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 28 2020 #53106
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    Dr. D: “WWE monster trucks for the hoi-polloi.”

    And the national political scene is a soap opera.
    Keeping up with the ( ? )
    I can’t keep up!

    Lily Tomlin: “No matter how cynical I get, I can’t keep up.”

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 21 2020 #52857
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    After years and billions of dollars down the drain with the 787, the Board of Directors and CEO Jim McNerney, followed by CEO Dennis Muilenburg, established a policy of returning 100% of free cash flow to shareholders. This took the form of share buybacks and increased dividends.

    David Calhoun has been on the Board since 2009. Board votes and debate aren’t public, but it is assumed he supported this policy.

    The money dedicated to this policy would have funded several new airplane programs. Even half of this money could have funded two or three new airplanes.

    https://leehamnews.com/2020/01/20/pontifications-another-calhoun-challenge-fixing-boeings-product-strategy/

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    “…a host of problems that occurred under Denis Muilenburg’s watch. Calhoun must deal with these, too.”

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 18 2020 #52799
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    Same parade day as above. A child of 13 in the crowd would be 90 this year.

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    Washington, D.C. Waiting for the parade to recruit civilian defense volunteers
    Esther Bubley, July 1943

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 10 2020 #52623
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    China To Become First To Realize UN Goal Of ‘No Poverty’ (CD)

    On the other hand, there’s this story from two days ago:
    China province of 80 million claims only 17 people in poverty, sparking debate about official data

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 8 2020 #52594
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    Tulsi Gabbard drops the F-bomb:

    https://twitter.com/i/status/1214763380893896704

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 8 2020 #52591
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    A developing story.

    Areas of investigation for Ukraine Airlines crash
    By Scott Hamilton, Leeham News, Jan. 8, 2020

    Some news reports of the Ukraine Airlines crash yesterday in Tehran linking the event to the Boeing 737 MAX crisis are irresponsible. The Ukraine airplane is a 737-800, a highly reliable aircraft with thousands in service around the world.

    Drawing any conclusions about the crash at this stage and under the unique circumstances of open, armed conflict in the region is also irresponsible.

    None of the news reports LNA has seen so far indicates possible radio communication from the pilot. The flight and voice recorders apparently have been recovered, but no information has been released of what information these contain. It’s unlikely any information has been downloaded at this point.

    https://leehamnews.com/2020/01/08/areas-of-investigation-for-ukraine-airlines-crash/

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 3 2020 #52492
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    More support for Assange.

    Mexico president calls for Julian Assange to be released from UK prison
    MEXICO CITY (Reuters) – Mexico’s President Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador on Friday called for Wikileaks founder Julian Assange to be released from prison in London, urging an end to what he described as his “torture” in detention….

    And this from Bob Carr, former foreign minister of Australia:

    The only prosecution [following the Collateral Murder war crime] is of the Australian who exposed it. His extradition fight starts in a London court next month and could drag on through appeals for a year…

    Whatever Assange did in 2010-2011 it was not espionage, and he’s not a US citizen. His actions took place outside the US. Under this precedent anyone, anywhere, who publishes anything the US state brands secret could be prosecuted under the US Espionage Act and offered to the maw of its notoriously cruel justice system.

    American diplomats talk darkly about lives lost because Assange leaked unredacted material. But during the Chelsea Manning trial in 2013 a US brigadier general in counter intelligence was asked to nominate casualties caused by the leaks. First he said he knew of one, an Afghan national. Later he had to retract and say there was none. Pentagon spokesman Geoff Morrell had said in 2010 “there was no evidence that anyone had been killed because of the leaks”…

    All said, we [Australians] are entitled to one modest request: that in the spirit with which Barack Obama pardoned Chelsea Manning, and given President Trump’s own objection to “endless wars” in desert sands, it would be better if the extradition of Assange were quietly dropped.

    An issue of freedom: US treatment of Assange risks souring alliance
    By Bob Carr, The Sydney Morning Herald
    January 4, 2020

    in reply to: Debt Rattle New Year’s Day 2020 #52445
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    Jailing And Fining Chelsea Manning Constitutes Torture, Top U.N. Official Says

    Nils Melzer, the U.N. special rapporteur on torture, said in a letter that he made public this week that detaining Manning and fining her with the aim of coercing her to testify constitutes a kind of torture that runs afoul of U.S. international human rights obligations.

    Jailing And Fining Chelsea Manning Constitutes Torture, Top U.N. Official Says

    A “monument to courage” in Berlin, with Manning, Assange, Snowden, and a fourth chair which invites the public to stand with them.

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    “Anything to Say”, by Davide Dormino

    in reply to: Debt Rattle December 28 2019 #52381
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    From a few days ago, more evidence of the DNC’s machinations.

    The Democratic National Committee produced a new “unity” fundraising advertisement which featured 10 presidential candidates—but notably left out Hawaii Congresswoman Tulsi Gabbard… She has consistently polled higher than at least two of the candidates who were featured.

    Critics blast DNC for snubbing Tulsi Gabbard in “Unity” fundraising video featuring 10 candidates

    in reply to: Debt Rattle Boxing Day 2019 #52359
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    Some more French support for Assange, published 26 Dec, that’s highly critical of his legal team’s approach.

    The strategy of “discretion”… Our conviction, already stated in this edition, is that this strategy is doomed to failure and does not respect Julian Assange: from the point of view of effectiveness and ethics, we strongly condemn it. It is politically undermined by the gigantic conflicts of interest affecting Assange’s lawyers, and although Gareth Peirce is apparently not in direct conflict, her acceptance to do the job ends up sharing her colleagues’ contradictions. On November 6, she met in the United States senator Rand Paul, a libertarian from the Tea Party, just before or after his successful blocking of “a resolution reaffirming the Senate’s support for whistle-blowers protection”. Read our analysis at the end of the article.

    Assange Tortured – Gareth Peirce turns blind eyes

    in reply to: Debt Rattle Christmas Eve 2019 #52329
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    The organization Reporters Without Borders (RSF, based in Paris) published this today:

    Two months before Assange’s extradition hearing, RSF calls for his release on humanitarian grounds and for US Espionage Act charges to be dropped

    The Boards of RSF include, among others, the head of the Associated Press in Paris, the global news director at AFP, the CBS correspondent in Paris, and some Nobel prize winners.

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