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  • in reply to: Debt Rattle January 12 2023 #125920
    Noirette
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    DBS I Hope you are right šŸ™‚ about the US accepting being one player in a multipolar world, if that was your message.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 12 2023 #125918
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    jb-hb, here in Switz, today, in public transport, those that have digit. screens (tram, bus, boat..) one can see ads that advise:

    *If you are over 65, protect yourself, get vaxxed* – Pic is of good looking Latino man with a bandage strip on the upper arm, his T shirt hiked up, smiling.

    *If you are pregnant, protect your baby.* Pic is of a lovely bulging pregnant tummy, with protective hands on the mid section, no face is figured.

    Follows a no. to call to get vaxxed. I use public transport a lot and the reactions in the buses etc. has not been good.

    How these ads come to be is not easy to dope out.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 12 2023 #125912
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    Ilargi: My prediction is that NATO will -try to- expand/widen/deepen the Ukraine conflict in 2023, and not just a little. They have to, because Ukraine as a theater is failing, no matter how much additional weaponry they import into it. And because Ukraine is running out of -under 65- boots on the ground.

    Iā€™m taking for granted that USuk (+ poodles, with Germany perhaps not too yappy doggie but a 2nd tier mover) is to destabilize, harm, attack, Russia, and kill as many Russians as possible, via full spectrum warfare, economic, informational, image-wise, plus most important, the violent proxy war in Ukraine.

    Very difficult to make predictions, because USuk can, imho (so not ā€˜have toā€™ as Ilargi writes) still withdraw, dial down, abandon the adventure. They can construct a narrative – Iā€™m not saying it would be easy, but it is possible – of reasoned actions, the effort is too costly, detrimental to our own ppl, is in some sense unwinnable ideologically, we gave it a good run, Russia only absorbs the Russian speaking parts, etc. See, what did USuk-eu state, shout, about Crimea in 2014? Nothing of substance. Then attention turns elsewhere, etc.

    So USuk-eu has many paths open for it still, it can make choices, bifurcations.

    Russia, by contrast, has committed itself to holding and absorbing (following the votes) Donetsk and Luhansk People’s Republics, Zaporizhzhia region (93% for joining R) and the Kherson region (87 %). (I was very surprised the Russians ran these votes in the last two regions.) It cannot turn back from that without suffering a crushing defeat ā€˜at homeā€™ which would see (most likely?) Putin and his coterie replaced in favor of ā€¦ who knows what.

    This is one of the reasons why USuk will not negotiate, while formulations vary, ā€œunless Russia gives back the territory it annexed illegallyā€ – Crimea is often included. It also explains in part the ā€˜positive propaganda spinā€™ about Ukraine winning, as the aim is to keep Russia fighting, preventing it from giving up, negotiating, or whatever.

    Just as Russia was goaded into moving into the Donbass initially, by the provoking of a civil war in Ukraine, with Kiev shelling the Donbass and killing 14K ppl.

    Many stress several ā€˜ethnicā€™ – lang – soc – divisions in Ukr, but had Ukr been allowed to commerce and link with both Russia and its EU neighbors in its own fashion, no war would have resulted. Oligarchs arise in precisely these conflictual situations, side bar story.

    What will happen next, as ā€˜likelyā€™, see Ilargi, is more investment and provocation from the W, sending of arms, advisors, and maybe even troops (Polish as new proxies, maybe).. plus Romanian.. or even other.. remember the token EU troops to Iraq, the ā€˜Coalitionā€™ ..

    The two important qus.:

    Do we see a slow and steady march to a devastating WW3?

    Will the USA accept becoming one Power in a Multi-Polar world?

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 9 2023 #125582
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    Bowie was smart, driven. See his fantastic, long-lasting success in the ā€˜popā€™ world.

    He was appreciated here (Switz.) for being friendly, discreet, ā€˜respecful,ā€™ and paying on time, when he owned prop. here. Many ppl I know met him šŸ™‚

    Analysis of the impact of the internet plus smartphones, on opinions, how they coalesce, are created, ā€˜tribalismsā€™, ā€˜group identificationā€™, ā€˜fringe(s)ā€™ etc., on socio-economic politics in the W, has been sorely lacking.

    A topic that nobody tries to tackle seriouslyā€¦ (Lame papers in Cultural Studies Journals donā€™t count ..) Imho because many actors think they can control, corral, influence the circuit, see Twitter Files.

    Here is Bowie in a Nihilistic mode, 4 mins. def. Beckett influence?

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 8 2023 #125438
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    Yes, Oroboros. Trump would have gathered tremendous support worldwide for pardoning Assange + seeing to his OK life somewhere, e.g. in Australia, with wifey + little kiddies.

    I suppose he, Trump, was told (the deep state neo-con crowd who advised him) that it was a no-no, for x reasons. The ‘cancelling’ of Assange has much to do with the murder of Seth Rich, Democrat plots, etc.

    Recently, many MSM articles support / call for / predict / the ‘freeing’ of Assange.

    I reckon, hope, it will happen. It has become super embarassing for the US. Chinese and Russian diplos, + others, sneer at the free-speech and ‘rules-based’ order, bringing up the Assange example, extreme cruelty to a non-violent journalist…

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 7 2023 #125336
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    Germā€™s post quoting ā€œRecord Ambulances queues at A&E.ā€ re UK, prev. thread,

    https://bit.ly/3GMyi5q

    The Tories (not that Labour would do better, the spin and calendar might vary somewhat) are finally coming close to privatising health care, officially, completely, a long time aim.

    Provoking strikes is part of the plan, the chaos shows the present system is not tenable, something must be done, the system is broken, etc.

    More employees, docs, nurses, lower level, quit in disgust (or thru other mechanisms, blame, no-vax stance, etc.) The more strikes the better..!

    So facilities close down, ambulances donā€™t show up, triage doesnā€™t work properly, etc. Let it all rot.. and it does, as complex systems that are not maintained by keen ppl working precisely defined slots in a matrix break down quickly.

    What happens next, watch for it,

    > Health care will be shunted to the responsibility of ā€˜regionsā€™ – outside of any ā€˜Nationalā€™ mandate.

    (Berlusconi did this in Italy, thereby ensuring fractioning, power to local scammers, potentates..)

    The rationale will be, different regions have different health/etc. problems, local control is more sensitive and caring, etc. Then, Funding from the center will be meagre, rationed.

    > Tele-Med will be the first portal to health care. The digitalisation will permit the Private cos. as part of Gvmt. to control all of med care in the UK.

    Poor and sick ppl will have to turn to Gvmt. help to make their cases heard, in front of a functionary who types in stuff.

    see for one ex, https://bit.ly/3imF8Fq

    in reply to: Debt Rattle December 31 2022 #124789
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    aspnaz above, quoted, snipā€¦

    ā€œMIT does not protect direct threats, harassment, plagiarism, or other speech that falls outside the boundaries of the First Amendmentā€¦ā€ ā€” from them.

    MIT did not defend Aaron Swartz, it stayed (afaik) as much as possible in the shadows, and sort of never ā€˜came outā€™ with any strong positions, statements.. (?)

    See: https://news.mit.edu/2013/mit-releases-swartz-report-0730

    The stuff, he, Aaron, downloaded, from JStor – if that was his only ā€˜supposedā€™ illegal ā€˜actā€™, was totally innocuous. JStor is a compendium publishing social science articles – all U libraries around the ā€˜depvā€™ world have a subscription to JStor, and even without logging in to some ā€˜authorisedā€™ library etc. thingie, it is possible to see, read, all JStor material via a well known pirate site, whom JStor has never attacked.

    Aaron and MIT is a very covered-up story.

    JStor today: https://www.jstor.org

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    Happy New Year to all šŸ™‚

    in reply to: Debt Rattle December 28 2022 #124472
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    Germ offers up the most salient, recent, COV19 ā€˜therapeuticsā€™ news.

    Adding, by S. Latypova,

    Nobody Knows What is in the Vials

    Covid-19 injections are dangerous, non-compliant biological materials. Their production must be stopped until a full investigation can be done.

    ————

    She deals with the manufacturing process, its implementation, oversight, compliance, etc.

    https://sashalatypova.substack.com/p/nobody-knows-what-is-in-the-vials

    Idk (?) about those microscop. pics etc. they might be just usual ā€˜junk.ā€™ In any case, that arguments exist means that much is being hidden, twisted, obfuscated.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle December 27 2022 #124415
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    Ok, Medvedev predictions, an exercise:

    Oil price will rise to $150 a barrel, and gas price will top $5.000 per 1.000 cubic meters.

    Maybe for a short while high prices can exist, but basically, when energy becomes unafordable, too expensive, i.e. the profits it confers via manufacturing processes / transport / other, sink, then the customers stop buying. About the specific price idk, that would take a lot study.

    The UK will rejoin the EU

    No, never. The EU is disintegrating, dissolving slowly, there are many reasons for this, it is complicated, but countries are leaving, will leave, maybe a ā€˜coreā€™ will remain, all is done of course to cover that up.

    The EU will collapse after the UKā€™s return; Euro will drop out of use as the former EU currency

    No, see above, yet the Euro will subsist as a viable currency for a long time.

    Poland and Hungary will occupy western regions of the formerly existing Ukraine.

    Very possibly. Poland taking Galicia for ex. As Ukr. will be divided, cut up, occupied, one way or another.

    The Fourth Reich will be created, encompassing the territory of Germany and its satellites, i.e., Poland, the Baltic states, Czechia, Slovakia, the Kiev Republic, and other outcasts

    Maybe Czechia, Slovakia, would prefer another belonging? But heh, the 4th Reich, why not.

    War will break out between France and the Fourth Reich. Europe will be divided, Poland repartitioned in the process

    see above, but no war between F and Germany, tied at the hip since WW2.

    Northern Ireland will separate from the UK and join the Republic of Ireland

    A done deal and will happen soonish, in the cards for many years now.

    Civil war will break out in the US, California. and Texas becoming independent states as a result. Texas and Mexico will form an allied state. Elon Muskā€™ll win the presidential election in a number of states which, after the new Civil Warā€™s end, will have been given to the GOP

    This sounds like fanciful stuff, there won’t be a civil war in the US..but idk.

    All the largest stock markets and financial activity will leave the US and Europe and move to Asia

    Yes that is a possibility.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle December 27 2022 #124408
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    A very strange Twitter thread from Medvedev. Elon Musk reacted: ā€œThose are definitely the most absurd predictions Iā€™ve ever heard, while also showing astonishing lack of awareness of the progress of artificial intelligence and sustainable energy..ā€

    Musk may be right about the absurd predictions made by Medvedev (more below if time ..), but the lack of awareness of the progress of artifiicial intelligence is bogus.

    (I guess Musk has to support AI?..?)

    AI, as it is called, and implemented today, uses massive data compilation and calc. in a basically correlational approach, it just churns about looking for relationships, and then humans take these on board or question them.

    That is the nitty-gritty (yes, other specific uses exist but marginally imho?) This method can be extremely interesting and productive, useful, but as humans interpret the data, it can be, is, instrumentalised for many purposes, agendas.

    All the data rests on basic measurement of ā€˜somethingā€™ (be it cholesterol levels in humans, rainfall p. y, number of words in a sentence, dollars spent on medications, rise in levels of x, y, z, the GDP of countries, etc. etc.) and many of these measurements are rough, arbitrary, or not the crucial ones, the relationships thrown up by ā€˜primitiveā€™ stat. analysis are *in fine* most often not very useful or interesting. (Though some might be but there is no way of judging.) They become a kind of ā€˜toolā€™ used politically, economically, by factions competing for power.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle Boxing Day 2022 #124320
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    On Chris Hedges. The Dems are now the War Party.

    Hedges is a 9/11 denier, that is, he endorses the official story / wonā€™t talk about that topic at all, as many others..

    He himself is a part of the war-mongering machine while cloaking himself in pretensions, penning lofty analysis, heh.

    (I didnā€™t read the whole article, so there is that..I canā€™t stand that type of calculated smarmy pseudo-expert-intellecutalismā€¦)

    In the US, the War Party is whatever party is in ‘power.’

    One party objects, very mildly, to the ā€˜Warsā€™ the other party instigates / supports / funds.

    For ex. the Dems on occasion objected to the Iraq War (bombing another country to oblivion, killing children..) because it was Bush instigated. Later they more or less shut up.

    At present we see that US support for Ukraine fighting Russia in a proxy war is hyped up by a Dem effort, the Repubs are looking a tad edgy, I read that some of them didnā€™t join a standing ovation for Zelensky at his show in front of Congress, and that some are demanding some ā€˜accountingā€™ of the billions sent to Ukr.

    It is all political theatre designed to keep ppl guessing, uncertain, thus, joining, admiring one or another pol, faction, being staunch partisans for their tribe / side / leader, etc. And calculated to allow a very narrow window for ppl to express anti-war opinions.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle Christmas Eve 2022 #124196
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    > Oroboros, who posted a clip of Biden caressing and sniffing Zelensky from behind, here is Macron, who went nuts at the W. Cup in Qatar.

    He ran out into the field and started hugging and embracing, to ‘console’, two stills:

    https://bit.ly/3PVfGmW

    https://bit.ly/3HW1ZlD

    MbappĆ©, the footie player pictured reacted by going immobile, stiff – not moving, no doubt he was super embarassed, he behaved like a child being mishandled, do nothing > be real quiet, etc.

    Macron is known for being keen on young black sporty / athletic men (orā€¦ journos like to take pix that support that..)

    One occasion was a huge scandal. Macron and his wife invited an LGTB black ā€˜danceā€™ (?) group to perform at the ElysĆ©e, on the occasion of the *Festival de la Musique*, which is supposed to celebrate all music, pop, trad, classical, etc. 2018.

    Here they are dancing in front of the ElysƩe. 1 min. Note the Americana feel.

    Whatā€™s important is the intrusion of mad-cap, quasi-hysterical ā€˜identity politicsā€™ playing a role in Politics, via images, propaganda, etc.

    The outrage, gossip, support, drowns out what Gvmt. policies are enacting, doingā€¦

    in reply to: Debt Rattle December 23 2022 #124163
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    To all, Merry Christmas – enjoy Great Holidays – Happy New Year – Celebrate whatever festivities that welcome the Dark turning into Spring.. šŸ™‚

    in reply to: Debt Rattle December 22 2022 #124101
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    There is only in fine, one vital question.

    Will the USA agree to, and find its place in, what is now called a ā€˜multipolar worldā€™ ?

    How, when, in function of what, could, would, the US come to submit to such an arrangement? I. e:

    > The USA as no longer a dominating power, merely one country amongst many, with similar, not too different, clout, influence, kudos, commercial control, on par with for ex., Germany, China, Italy, Iran, Brazil, South Africa (etc.)

    > With international relations (commerce, rules of war, and more) subject to some kind of international arbitrage (some kind of Intl. Body, Court)

    > Implying that the USA gives up military dominance / threats / etc.

    Sounds very unlikely, right?

    Apparently nobody is optimistic about the USA bowing down, retreating gracefully…

    Russia, China, in first place, have figured, judged, that the US will not give up its dominant position, at any cost, will never negotiate, so it is Do or Die. (What tht leads to horrific..)

    in reply to: Debt Rattle December 21 2022 #124094
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    citizenx, I watched the first half of the video you posted. Argh. I’m at a loss for words, how to elegantly express outrage, which I can’t do right now.

    It is time for ppl to understand that the war (ww3 ongoing right now) is a class war, with a medley of powerful entities – ex. MIC, Big Pharma, Rich Elites, Mega Corps, Subservient Gvmts. paid for and corrupted by lobbyists, Big Med, Big Green Industry, and others – are covertly fighting against ppl all over the ‘developed’ world.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle December 21 2022 #124043
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    correction, 2002 > 2022

    in reply to: Debt Rattle December 21 2022 #124042
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    This DC party invite shows all the money to be made off the Ukraine war.

    — A Ukrainian Embassy reception, sponsored by Americaā€™s biggest weapons makers….

    ā€œThe Ukrainian Embassy hosted a reception last week in honor of the 31st anniversary of the countryā€™s armed services. Events like this are part of the social calendar of Washingtonā€™s smart set (ā€¦)”

    “The logos of military contractors Northrop Grumman, Raytheon, Pratt & Whitney, and Lockheed Martin were emblazoned on the invitation as the eventā€™s sponsors, below the official Ukrainian emblems and elegant blue script that said the Ukrainian ambassador and defense attachĆ© ā€œrequest the pleasure of your company.ā€

    (see link for image of the invite)

    from VOX, Dec. 16, 2002, by J. Guyer.

    https://bit.ly/3Gc69Es

    in reply to: Debt Rattle December 20 2022 #123964
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    re. prev. thread.

    As far as I recall from that time, there is NO WAY Bourdain killed himself.

    He had a 13-yr old daughter whom he loved, he was in the middle of filming a series, all going well. He had good relations with her mother, no nasty divorce, etc.

    He had fallen in with a dodgy GF, Asia Argento, how that happened, and who she is, is another story.

    NYT ample description of the ā€˜officialā€™ version.

    .. which doesnā€™t give any reasons for his suicide, as there were none to be credibly put forward. (NYT article may not be readable for some ?)

    France generally bows down to, and accepts, directives and the cover-up narratives from the Anglo-World (basically, the US) for *individual* cases. Princess Diana’s Death is a prime example. These are easy concessions, bargaining chips, for F to make, in return for what, idk and wonā€™t speculate about.

    in reply to: Galileo vs the Vatican #123759
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    The piece from the Telegraph (Torygraph vs. the Guardian) is imho a sort of limited hangout effort. quote:

    …our governing classes have certainly learnt something they will remember.
    ……………
    The critical lesson that has been indelibly absorbed by people in power, and those who advise them, is that fear works.

    Journo obfuscation. Covid ā€˜policiesā€™ (vax in first place, but masks, isolation, no school, others, etc.) were imposed via a pre-planned playbook (imho), NOT principally by inducing fear.

    The policies were effective not via boosting fear but by hitting the caring and compassion and being *a good person* (> accepted by society, an upstanding person, etc.) buttons. Extremely cynical and manipulative for sure.

    The spiel was, the Gvmt. ā€˜caredā€™ about constituents, the nurses, the NHS, etc., the Authorities were there to protect, help, be kind, reduce suffering, death. *Big Brother is protecting you!*

    Responsible citizens were supposed to follow along, get vaxxed not in first place not for their own benefit or survival, but to save other ppl, Granny, etc. from illness, death. A totally cynical manipulation …The article mentions ā€˜moral coercionā€™ but in a glancing way.

    The Governing classes ref. to in the article did not suddenly realise that ā€˜fearā€™ worked, this has been know since humans exist.

    It was the comprehensive suppression of dissent even when it came from expert sources ā€“ and the prohibition on argument even when it was accompanied by counter-evidence ā€“ that really did the trick.

    Yes, this is a good point.

    (pertains only to the Cov. part of the article.)

    in reply to: Debt Rattle December 17 2022 #123753
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    Dr Rich, because I believe the Plandemic had, has, more overarching (sp) aims, but this thread is dead…. Yes, as you write, “AI” has severe limitations..

    in reply to: Debt Rattle December 17 2022 #123679
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    Oroboros, thx for that post, info.

    Making services cheaper while charging as much as poss. is part of the pic.
    The other is aggregating data (AI) to decide and endorse, some plan of action. The main negative point (imho) is that trust is destroyed, the doc who liked you and did his best for you, and was accountable in a way amongst his patients and his peers, becomes a servant of an algo. ghetto, where he is just a front man, or woman, obeying orders from some Central powers, sent day by day via the internets. (Already visible in some areas.)

    in reply to: Debt Rattle December 17 2022 #123678
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    Farm expropriation in NL.

    Agricultural statistics are very dodgy.

    Agri. / land use is highly dependent on natural geography (soil, climate, etc.), as opposed to political geo. and almost all measures use ā€˜countriesā€™ as categories.

    The path from Agri. land use (production) to the foodstuffs that are sold / consumed at end point is +++ complex and involves processing — harvesting, combining foods, chem. agents, etc. using mostly heat — transport, packaging, and more, such as fin. matters, tariffs / VAT, contracts with supermarkets, Gvmt. regs, etc.

    A last caveat: energy use. The energy innput (all kinds) has to be taken into account, which it isnā€™t on the whole.

    So it is hyper! complex.

    Still, all over the EU, land use for agri has been sinking, in favor of cheap food imports, and some ‘intesive agri’ efforts.

    Netherlands agri land use, 2020: 53% (1961: 68%) Note the sharp downtrend, set to continue.

    Chart, some similar in % EU countries. For NL is is just one more ā€˜down-step.ā€™

    https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/AG.LND.AGRI.ZS?locations=NL-FR-DK-DE&most_recent_value_desc=false

    in reply to: Debt Rattle December 17 2022 #123676
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    Today I listened to a talk by Sasha Latypova. (New to me.)

    INTENT TO HARM – EVIDENCE OF THE CONSPIRACY TO COMMIT MASS MURDER BY THE US DOD, HHS, PHARMA CARTEL.

    She outlines the structures and functioning of the covid vax response, via an analysis of open source Gvmt. docs and data, in the US.

    https://bit.ly/3FBVkKx Bitchute, 1h 18 mins.

    She also has a substack. https://bit.ly/3Ytn7p7

    Here she is in an interview at Rounding the Earth.

    https://bit.ly/3uVZiJ2 Rumble

    This cleared up some questions I have been vaguely wondering about for some time, re. Emergency Use of X, Y, in the US.

    It also fits in w. my pov that one subsiduary aim of the Plandemic is to eliminate medical doctors as independent agents.
    AI + tele-medecine (control from the top) will take care of diagnosis and remedies (or not, ex. remdesivir), only tech staff is needed for on-body work, such as setting bones, logging a MRI, or at a high level, e.g. a liver transplant, yes surgeons and all the support staff (intensive careā€¦) are needed, specially in ā€˜privateā€™ health care for the rich, so some training / serious qualification has to continue, but at a far lower level than at present. (OK, hospitals fulfill many functions, it gets complicated.)

    How this played out in different W countries should really be studied.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle December 15 2022 #123584
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    WES, yes, right, about the Banksters.

    Afewk, that was an interesting memoir, thanks.

    I have relatives in the S. of France and my family went there for summer vacs. every year, as we were not moneyed.

    As a small child I remember getting up at 5.30 – 6 or so am. Everybody worked in the fields gathering a flower crop, doing what they could, till around 9 – 10 am.

    Then the truck manned by the buyers would be on the spot, they weighed the produce and paid cash.

    We children, a whole band of us, were then free to swim in the reservoir, roam the country, borrow a donkey from the neighbor (he was elderly and the last to have a work-animal, of course the donkey had to be treated very well), do races with ā€˜bricolĆ©ā€™ carts down the hill, hike to Mamie Bakery to buy pain au chocolat (it was a steep long walk up, 25 mins, and smooth down) and in the afternoon have, for ex. dance lessons (by an older cousin) using the record player. We also played cards, board games, and helped in the kitchen, chopping veggies, cleaning floors, etc.

    The crop was used in the perfume industry and became obsolete when the chem industry concocted a synthetic substitute and the EU paid farmers to NOT cultivate flowers / many spices / other crops.

    Today, my relatives still grow grapes and make their own wine, nut and other (vin de noix, vin d’orange), fruit, preserves, etc.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle December 15 2022 #123482
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    Re. article from Consortium News, top post: Germany and Lies of the Empire. https://bit.ly/3W284kI

    Well Hit – ler would turn over in his grave if he was told that to conquer more Lebensraum (use cheap labor, sell products, to the East, infeodate, control), to get rid of the Gypsies (keep them at home – Iā€™m leaving the Jews out here, they could all go to Isr-a-hell), and fight a covert war against France, knock out those bothersome Greeks, impoverish them, turn some neighbors of, and those ā€˜traditionally close toā€™ the arch-enemy, then the USSR, into crazed opponents of Russia: ā€¦

    That all he had to do was invent a kind of pan-European Thingie which would garner International Recognition, and work stubbornly and quietly in the corridors of power, using German territorial and industrial superiority to dominate.

    Plus point! Promulgating and achieving goals in tune with to his personal bents, smoking cigarettes and gobbling meat, would gradually be phased out, discouraged and *in fine* Verboten.*

    more: šŸ™‚ šŸ™‚ .. spinning offf here…

    The pact would have included: accepting + championing homosexuality, same-sex marriage. I suppose Hit – ler would have had no problems with that at all. Leni Rifenstahl could glorify it with glorious cinematography, there you go, a mini price to pay for domination of Western Europe and further East, as… nobody cares about deviants, or – ppl have the right to their preference.

    *were German / Nazi social tropes at the time, not just those of Hit – ler.

    Much more could be said about the Merkel interview(s), what is hidden here is intra-EU fights.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle December 14 2022 #123403
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    Figmund, ppl checking out of the work force, not even looking for jobsā€¦

    (USA in the link you posted, but elsewhere as well), is a result of energy inputs sagging, diminishing, dying off, as you know..

    Biz, big and small, facing too high energy bills, stop paying their workers, abd close down.. Too cumbersome to keep up – too expensive to pay for – now regulated by xyz, rationed – and lastly, simply, as not available.

    The bonanza of cheap / affordable, easily piped in, trucked in, and ā€˜producedā€™ (e.g electricity) energy was previously spread around, creating ā€˜goodā€™ paying jobs.

    David Graeber wrote that capitalism created BS jobs, but really it was, is, a kind of ā€˜surplusā€™ energy thing.

    A real trickle-down, not from the Rich who of course will never condone such, the servants gotta serve, and stay quiet, submit, and more, etc. but just through the growing demands of tech advances, which require a lot of employees, trained, rushing around in vehicles, working in factories, for ex. producing and installing wind turbines, servicing, controlling them, etc. Or, controlling traffic, with cameras, tech spies, police on the ball in super vehicles, admin, staff with computers sending out fines, etc.

    Without the energy that fuels all this ppl are ā€”> sent home.

    From the employees side, if a job is too taxing and doesnā€™t pay enough for feeding – housing – clothing 1 person / 2 ppl, depending on job, for some, a family, there is no point to it, better to scrabble around, more benefits can be accrued by whatever other means.

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    T. Meyssan offers up a view to make sense of the World Situation, making some historical comparisons along the way.

    His take, summary: ā€˜Radicalā€™ and ā€˜powerfulā€™ forces will join together independently of whatever rivalry, hate, etc. is promulgated in ā€˜theirā€™ populations.

    Ex. Italy, Germany and Japan, the Axis powers. Fascism, Nazism, and ā€œHakkō ichiuā€ amalgamated, joined together.

    https://www.voltairenet.org/article218494.html

    How that is relevant for today, plus other points, see link.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle December 13 2022 #123315
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    re. prev. TAE describes an US vs. THEM narrative.

    Idk about the Twitter Files, so, a general take.

    For sure there was censorship / triaging of twits by IT types at Twatter, in support of ā€˜Dem.ā€™ narratives – pol stances – aims – cover-ups – agendas – trends to be encouraged – etc. Including ā€˜boostingā€™ (sic) x y z ā€˜facts.ā€™

    Now typcial now of IT, in the US first, as an ex. Profess. middle-class, middle-manag. types, who must find things to do, for good pay. They band together in a quasi-cult like atmosphere. In-group fervor substitutes for any reasonable actions, including the survival of the company and their jobs, which then take second place. Under semi-control by some political factions, how the money circulates, idk.

    I suppose Musk tried, is trying, to wrest control, change the mindset, culture, structure – hierarchy – control mechs.. some supression or censorship is by now unavoidable, choices must be made. Free speech has always been for the ones, not the others, and never for all without restrictions.

    I read that Twatter had 7.5 K employees (see link.) My imagination which may be quite wrong is that to run a Twat thingie, maybe 1- 2 K ppl are needed. (Outside of watching posts by humans, not algos, and censoring / boosting, so maybe one can hire a bunch to do that..) So it all looks like a groupie party, a kind of jamboree of the ā€˜virtualā€™ economy, extracting as much as possible via ads, data licensing, and/or, plus, getting funding from outside parties (i.e. non-commercial inputs.) At some point the inputs diminish, die off, other opinions, propaganda, etc. get a gripā€¦ ??

    https://www.statista.com/statistics/272140/employees-of-twitter/

    in reply to: Debt Rattle December 11 2022 #123233
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    Micheal Reid, the Pastreich interview was interesting, specially on Covid (Hopes re. US politics, hmm.)
    Afewk, Brian B. is v. professional and smooth, yes.

    Figmund, that clip, thx for posting it. Oh Man.

    The polished, suited, groomed, Sunak meeting the deliberately down-dressed in crummy T shirts and tired camouflage fatigues, Zelensky, and his protectors who accompany him, similar.

    While the Servant Staff is impeccably turned out in plummy elaborate rigged-up uniforms.

    As in a silly, boring movie. The noble fighters in tired dirty T shirts, signalling: We are of the people, real fighters, determined, no dress code for us real warriors, we ā€˜isā€™ the supremo lance of opposition to Evil, etc.

    Massive fail. Who is brought on board with Ukr-USuk war with these kinds of images? Zel. has a TV / movie / prop,. background, producing easy BS stuff, financed by oligarchs, but is completely lost in Intl politics, he hasn’t a clue.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle December 11 2022 #123162
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    Re. Assange. Afewk asked, at

    Debt Rattle December 10 2022

    Why a sudden U-turn by the Guardian and company now?

    1. Trump can be blamed for the indictment in 2019. Obama held off. (see 2 links below) So, Dems => Nobilis, Trump => Horribilis!

    2. The pro-Assange cause is quite successful WW. Russia and Xi have both ridiculed the US for their hypocritical *free speech* screechy BS by pointing to Assange, a non-violent person, a journalist, reporter, blogger (depending on def.), made to suffer horrors. Mega embarassing -> no counter-argument is at hand. Australia is being blamed as well, why do they not defend their citizen?

    3. The Guardian (and maybe similarly the NY times, to a lesser degree .. ?) were publishing some of Assangeā€™s docs, takes, etc., and very keen on the *New Journalism* (wikileaks, the new era, internet, public participation, etc.) as that might make them more relevant, better ā€˜newsā€™ purveyors, which would surely rapidly augment revenue.

    At the Guardian, Brit. authorities intervened pronto and forbade all wiki news, even destroyed servers (I have read.)

    So some MSM have a grudge against their controllers, and want to claim more leeway, independence, etc. Vassals aren’t happy all the time.

    one news link, Chicago Tribune

    https://www.chicagotribune.com/la-fg-britain-julian-assange-arrested-20190411-story.html

    indictment Assange US official doc

    https://www.justice.gov/opa/press-release/file/1153486/download

    in reply to: Debt Rattle December 10 2022 #123108
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    from prev. thread.

    Merkelā€™s ā€˜confessionā€™ may be ground for tribunal ā€“ Moscow

    Maria lashes out at Angela. https://bit.ly/3uGRDy0

    Merkel should just keep her mouth shut, she is making things worse. Not a consideration for her, I guess, she is trying to get in with the Zeitgeist (pro-Urk more violently than she was,) Merkel was good at pushing problems away, sending them down the road. She did perpetual ā€˜balancing actsā€™ – like going for Minsk and NS 2, which at the time, was perhaps reasonable, or looked clever, in a way.

    Imho the Minsk efforts were not straight-out duplicitous, just a lame effort to look good (Europe loves peace efforts even if fakey), Rightio. Hollande went along but tried to duck commitments and media on this, he didnā€™t want to be involved as he had other problems.

    Now she exagerates her ā€˜duplicityā€™ and ā€˜evilā€™ side with a ā€˜confessionā€™, trying to get xtra brownie-type points. Argh.

    Putinā€™s public riposte ā€œnear zero trust from now onā€ is a political theatre to R ppl, there were no mysteries about all this, anyone who cared to look knew what was happening on the ground.

    The Minsk Protocol, 2014, had as a first condition a cease-fire. That was broken in under about 10 days or so. All continued along as usual, with shelling of the Donbass, as nobody reacted.

    The UN Resolution 2202 (2015) was aimed at re-enforcing, promoting, Minsk I, with higher authority clout, as there were (? idk, guessing) NATO ppl trapped in the Debaltsevo cauldron.

    https://press.un.org/en/2015/sc11785.doc.htm

    It had no effect.

    At link Samantha Power said .. it was ironic that the Russian Federation had called the meeting to adopt a resolution on a conflict that it had fuelled…

    What we see is Intlā€™ orgs., Pols, making statements, taking positions, empty posturing, jockeying for kudos, following agendas of some big players (Corps), etc. for many different reasons. Merkel seems to feel she can still be part of the game.

    I did see the link to MoA but post is long enough.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle December 8 2022 #122921
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    On arms sent to Ukr. Mentioned in top post.

    I listened today — to Xavier Moreau, his latest bulletin, in F. from Donesk, he is mostly outraged at the bomb damage on schools, etc. but he had nothing to say about Arms though that is one of his areas of competence.

    — To radio France Soir, featuring Jaques Baud (some of his pieces have been posted here, see Postil magazine, ex, link below) and Francois Martin, in F,

    https://bit.ly/3UI8JGg

    Where what happens to the arms sent to Ukr. was brought up.

    Ukr. has since 1991 been a huge arms seller. When the USSR dissolved, all ā€˜atomicā€™ capacities were returned to Russia, but all other arms, be it stocks, manufacturing capacities, patents, etc. became the property of the new ā€˜regions.ā€™

    Post 1991, Ukr. sold huge amounts of arms that they had in stock, for mega profits (Oligarchs, greed.) This trading in arms is a staple of Ukr. commerce, and continues, the imports (aka gifts) from the ā€˜collective westā€™ are sold on, to Russia (in first place, unsurprising, they are close by and can pay), to Albania, W. Africa, and gangs in Finland, to quote some exs.

    An estimate put forward was that light arms (including anti-tank) only 30 – 40 % reached the front line in Ukr. All the rest is sold off left and right, v. cheap.

    interview with J. Baud, ex. text in eng. https://bit.ly/3Y642ZQ

    in reply to: Debt Rattle December 8 2022 #122919
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    Oroboros, prev. thread. šŸ™‚

    In France Macron’s nick-names donā€™t make those historical comparisons, that would be too grandiose, flattering. ( -> was to Napoleon and Alexander)

    Some exs., a selection,

    Jupiter my favorite, it was invented by those who worked on his first campaign -> imperial, dominating..

    The small powdered Marquis (by another pol, meant to be insulting)

    The Mozart of Finance Odd? as Macron is v. poor at math wasn’t a successful banker …. except at convincing ppl by charm, etc.

    Play on his name: Micron, ok; Macrotte (my shit ball), Macaron (sweet, sort of hard outside and soft inside), etc.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle December 7 2022 #122848
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    Top post, Jeffrey Sachs: https://bit.ly/3P7LiVL

    JS is Chief of the UN Sustainable Development Group, and advisor to Gutteres (UN head) for some matters economic. Idk what position, what influence he wields. So, anything coming from his mouth or pen cannot be trusted (ask afewk.) Rightio.

    Some high-up figures, perhaps Macron in first place, others, note JS quotes Macron amply, are calling for negotiations re. the US-Nato — Russia proxy war in Ukr.

    JS, quotes: ā€œThere is no military way outā€ – ā€œA disaster for everybody, a threat to the whole world.ā€

    At heart, those calling for ā€˜diplomacyā€™, ending the killing in towns and fields, and sitting down at the table, whether sincere or not, are peace-washing their images: We tried, we wanted, we did out best, etc.

    USuk (poodle EU, NATO) has clarioned that Russia must give up Crimea, the Donbass, all ā€˜occupiedā€™ lands. This hard line has held fast for now, *ensuring* that no negotiations can be engaged in from the Russian side, as they cannot ever give up Crimea and some parts of East Ukr. Macron and the like ignore that or pretend to do so. So the war goes on.

    Oroboros, Alexander looks very like Macron.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle December 6 2022 #122759
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    Drug trade Afgh – Taliban.

    Afewk, The brookings inst. can be wrong about many things, slant stuff, be right about some others, as I pointed out they seemed to ā€˜excuseā€™ or explain by various factors, the Talibanā€™s actions re. drugs.

    The top Bosses (Amrikis previous – Taliban now more in charge) control the drug trade, in part directly, and for another part ‘mafia style’, take rake-off payments, while organising / doing nothing much except ? some meddling in the hierarchy, who is top boss etc., “Amir has to go home, leave the biz,ā€ that kind of thing.

    Many articles, studies about the drug trade since the flashy US withdrawal from Afgh detail that the trade under the Taliban has a new super profitable life.

    Which doesnā€™t mean US actors are no longer involved, btw. Though the first collabs. are the Pakistanis, but as they also seize drugs for their profit — then what happens Idk..

    From the Atlantic Council, yikes.. Yet the content may be of interest.

    Afgh. drug trade is booming under the Taliban, R. Stone. Aug 2022
    .
    https://bit.ly/3VLIpfA

    The UN has studies, articles, surveys, position papers, action proposals..

    Quote:

    The global trade in illicit Afghan opiates has become one of the world’s greatest transnational drug and crime threats, with severe consequences for health, governance and security at national, regional and international levels. Illicit Afghan opiates are trafficked to almost every continent in the world, with the exception of South America, and are trafficked along three broad routes ā€¦

    https://www.unodc.org/unodc/en/data-and-analysis/aotp.html

    Iā€™m NO fan of the UN, think the WHO shoudl be shut down, but they do publish studies etc. which are OK. The split between procedures set up long ago, carried out by employees – intā€™l collabs., and capture / manipulation of narratives by political / more powerful forces is evident.

    Abut NZ Idk. And I have never been to Afgh. either though II wanted to visit it – past tense as it looks like Iā€™ll never get to go there.

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    Along the lines of ā€œScientist who worked at Wuhan lab says COVID was man-made virusā€ at top post, C. Martenson, vid: “Fauci lab-leak cover-up revealed via e-mails.”

    https://bit.ly/3FtJUcY

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    Afewk posted: (…) When the Taliban began discouraging poppy planting and harvesting, that really was the last straw for the criminal gang that controls America, and they commenced their futile war on the anti-drug Taliban. The pretext for the initial attack was ā€˜womenā€™s rightsā€™, with a bit of harbouring ā€˜terroristsā€™ thrown in.

    Imho, no, not really … as the Taliban did not discourage poppy planting. They destroyed x area poppy fields because prices had sunk desperately low, caused by a glut. Later they expanded somewhat, while prices rose slowly.

    From Brookings, long, sept. 2021:

    ā€œThe Talibanā€™s 2000 ban on opium poppy cultivation was an isolated and likely unsustainable policy move by the Islamist regime. In the post-Taliban era decreases in poppy cultivation and opiate production that periodically took place over the previous two decades have largely been the result of the saturation of global and local drug markets, poppy crop disease, inauspicious weather such as drought, or temporary coercive measuresā€¦ā€

    https://brook.gs/3UCQDWi

    Heh, sounds like even making excuses for the Taliban, by dragging in many factors (crop disease, etc.) while the motivation was purely financial.

    There was no ā€˜last strawā€™, the US, the Taliban, and all others knew this trade would continue, via perhaps some different routes, markets, refineries (mostly in Pakistan), profit margins, etc.

    How Opium profits the Taliban by G. Peters, 2009 is interesting. (Havenā€™t re-read it, so ?)

    https://www.usip.org/sites/default/files/resources/taliban_opium_1.pdf

    The real scandal is that this agri. crop could not be made legal (as many, incl. the UN, pushed for.) Afgh. could have been the no. 1 producer of legal medecines based on the poppy. The US opposed it.

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    Pfizerā€™s chief executive Albert Bourla, Ph.D., is in hot water for claims he made during a BBC interview late last year about the company’s then-unapproved COVID vaccine for younger kids. The claims have reportedly been branded ā€œmisleadingā€ and ā€œoverly promotional.ā€

    (ā€¦)

    Thatā€™s the latest finding in an ongoing case at the British pharmaceutical marketing regulator the Prescription Medicines Code of Practice Authority (PMCPA),Ā The TelegraphĀ reports.Ā 

    more at:

    FIERCE PHARMA. https://bit.ly/3uk4kPn (scroll down a bit)

    Article downplays ā€˜the caseā€™ – ā€˜hot waterā€™ is not a legal term for ex. Some kind of attack on Bourla took place and maybe a small wedge against him / Pfizer was lodged. Will anything further happen? I doubt it. For the mo. + No MSM reports afaik.

    > see other articles on the site to see what BigPharma is up to and how it dresses it up. It is proudly put out public info.

    That the MSM doesn’t report continues to be very efficient, because ppl have to fit in with what others know/believe to continue to live in insecure harmony with others.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle December 3 2022 #122546
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    “Declassified AustraliaĀ exposes and analyses a massive secret propaganda operation being run out of the US, that has been buried by Western media.” by Peter Cronau. 22 Sep, 2022

    ā€˜We believe this activity represents the most extensive case of covert pro-Western IO [Information Operation] on social media to be reviewed and analysed by open-source researchers to date,ā€™ say the researchers fromĀ Stanford UniversityĀ and internet research firm,Ā Graphika.

    The researchers found most of the Information Operation ā€˜likely originated in theĀ United Statesā€™. From there it ran a massive, interconnected web of automated ā€˜botā€™ accounts on Twitter, Facebook, and other social media platforms.

    Lots of analysis….

    from declassified australia. https://bit.ly/3FyarWN

    in reply to: Debt Rattle December 3 2022 #122535
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    By Fabio Vighi, long.

    A self-fulfilling prophecy: Systemic collapse and Pandemic simulation.

    Fleshes out the idea that the Pandemic was pushed forward to deal with, and conceal, an economic disaster. excerpt re. one aspect:

    The only thing that matters for the clique directing the health emergency orchestra is to feed the profit-making machine, and every move is planned to this end, with the support of a political and media front motivated by opportunism.

    If the military industry needs wars, the pharmaceutical industry needs diseases.

    It is no coincidence that ā€˜public healthā€™ is by far the most profitable sector of the world economy, to the extent that Big Pharma spends about three times as much as Big Oil and twice as much as Big Tech on lobbying.

    The potentially endless demand for vaccines and experimental gene concoctions offers pharmaceutical cartels the prospect of almost unlimited profit streams, especially when guaranteed by mass vaccination programmes subsidised by public money.

    Why have all Covid treatments been criminally banned or sabotaged? (ā€¦)

    From the Philsophical Salon.

    https://bit.ly/3VQNHGr

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