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ParticipantOn: Macron is a coward, Medvedev, at RT, see top post. (About postponing a visit to Kiev.)
Macron visited the Salon de l’Agriculture in Paris, and had to RUN away, booed, and more, reportedly the Security Services ‘failed’ / ‘didn’t do their job right.’
Print, in French: https://rb.gy/3rdzb4
Vid in F – 4 mins.
He did manage more or less to impose himself (a Frenchism) in a ‘secure place’ some time later with a small group (for the cameras.)
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ParticipantMichael R prev. thread : “.. power has shifted from democratically elected interests to corporate and private interests….”
Yes. > Defend us from Globalism:
Col. Macgregor is CEO of this org.? A new political force?
The acrimonious divide between the USA ‘right’ (Repubs, say) and the ‘left’ (Dems, say) has been so exacerbated, on purpose, to serve the oligarchs, that turning back is going to be very difficult, if not impossible, imho.
Trump Derangement Syndrome is real, hate of senile Bid-> Admin as well. Much or all of the antagonism is built on ‘social issues’ – abortion, gays rights, PC behavior, hiring policies, sensitivity training, voting rights -to come back to that- sex change, school curricula, immigrants as nasties / lovely gals, etc.
General economic and foreign policy is left in the shade. This is deliberate.
Top ‘W’ 20% don’t give a fig about who sleeps with whom, who marries or not, who has abortions, etc., and they never have. Such matters are just for the Plebs to become riled up about.
The ‘open borders’ policy in the US is actually an ‘attract illegals’ policy, yes to boost the DEM vote, but also to provide instant and cheap ‘labor.’
Bringing up a child to participate succesfully in W society is hugely expensive, the bill is paid by the parents / family / State. Outsourcing that cost is advantageous, the sudden availability of 20, 25 yr. olds ready to work for lowish wages is a ! fantastic ! boon.
Ex. Merkel promoted the influx of Syrian immigants into Germany on humanit. grounds, with the unspoken aim of augmenting the work-force. (Syrians have the reputation of having had a good education, being adaptable, etc.)
Yes, kicking in an open door (sic) but it has to be said again.
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ParticipantSeaBirds, heh 🙂 yes. Deals with Moldova are definetly on the cards. For what exactly idk.?
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Participanttop post:
France is forming a coalition of nations that are willing to consider the possibility of deploying Western forces to Ukraine, Politico reports. On Friday, French Foreign Minister Stéphane Séjourné travelled to Lithuania to hold a meeting with his Baltic and Ukrainian counterparts to promote the idea that foreign forces might assist Ukraine in tasks such as de-mining.
https://tinyurl.com/ypfm9fjf (Sputnik)
Macron was the only EU ‘leader’ that dampened anti-Russia spewing, in times past. Recall, in 2018, he was the only one to go to Moscow for the FIFA, he cheered, etc. Being ‘with’ Russia was def. on the agenda.
https://tass.com/world/1012744?show-layout=body
Subsequently R. teams were banned from FIFA (??)
Macron is mega unpopular in F (endless list of issues..) He has always aimed to present himself as a leader of the EU, being the fore-runner, the strategic genius, moving in the right direction, he provides stellar analysis, etc. Against Germany – anyone who imagines the bones of WW2 are buried and forgotten – No.
He is furious because Russia in interfering, with great success, in France-Afrique, throwing the traditional F manipulators out of some Afr. countries, as Russia offer ‘better deals’…
Other points could be brought up…
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ParticipantSeaBirds posted prev. thread:
We could suggest that Nuland may not have left on a sour note. Maybe most objectives of the deep state were fully achieved with remarkable success, and maybe military defeat of Russia wasn’t necessarily one of their goals. They managed to sever a growing partnership with Russia and Germany….
I agree a lot has been achieved, many Russians and Slavs have been killed and in one way or another UKR becomes ‘up for grabs’ (US Corps, deals w. other countries, etc.)
Yet, Nuland quitting spells out, internally and for the public, just one message: the determined UKR anti-Russian (say, neo-Nazi) camp within UKR and its support by the USA (Pax Americana) is loosing, has in effect, lost, and must re-group, withdraw, re-consider, etc.
— The UKR defense front is breaking down is how I read it, but I am not a military savy person. While it could hold there was still hopiness. —
That UKR cannot win against Russia is finally being acknowledged, so a driving figure has to go. She is an emblem, to be quickly ‘retired.’ (Not Blinken, who plays another role.) I’m sure she was told to quit ‘gracefully’ for a nice pension / whatever.
*sidebar*: How that idiot Trudeau and Canada are going to manage to downscale I have no idea. Maybe they will gather and wear UKR embroidery shirts (as usual) and play UKR (i.e. Russian) music and dance while cursing Putin, Canadian Farmers, left and right wing extremists, while being filmed going kissy-kissy amongst themselves. / end sarc.
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Participant“everybody says michelle is gonna run..”
This outcome might have been a hope at some time for some ppl.
Michelle might, would hopefully, win a LOT of votes!
Yet, she herself and Obama know that would be a recipe for disaster for them, negatively impact their fortune, life-style, image — future.
They are smart enough to realise that and so it won’t happen.
Michelle herself has said, No Way.
Shows: candidates for the Presidency in the US are boosted as Popular Actors, Figure Heads.
Voting becomes supporting some guy/gal on some TV show Desert Island Style. Or, as a person of your ‘color’ or as has movements and slogans that you like, pro this or that, against this or that, trivial stuff.
Meanwhile, the PTB / the Deep State / the Elites carry on with their program.
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ParticipantSo what is the difference between Trump and Biden? (see articles at top post.)
US Presidents come and go.
All of them (since, say, the Vietnam war, I am no historian) just looove having enemies, to feed the MIC, other big biz, maintain hegemony, kill slant-eyes, kill slavs, kill any etc., keep ppl afraid and riled up at home, while pretending there are some disagreements, arguments, etc. re. any topic that can be conjured up.
Ex. the Dems were the only ones to mildly object to the bombing (destruction..) of Iraq, because that was (ostensibly) a G. Bush move. Then when in power they went on to destroy Lybia and crow about it. At present, Syria devastated (via Obama) is still being occupied in part.
The Genocide in Gaza is heavily supported by the Bidadmin, by Repubs, Trump, and all in powerful positions, incl. the latest Kennedy, and prob. others I don’t even know about. Ex.
6 March 2024. Donald Trump has voiced explicit backing for Israel’s war on Gaza, suggesting that he supports the goal expressed by the hardline government in Tel Aviv of continuing the assault until “total victory.”
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ParticipantBenjamin (Bald and Bankrupt is his you tube monkiker) joins ‘migrants’ aka illegals, crossing the Darien Gap. Vid. 49 mins.
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Participantre. UKR.
50+ page article explains how Zelensky became president, focussed on internal UKR matters. By G. Alder. 2023. (Kolomoisky, Burisma, etc. are mentioned …)
Volodymyr Zelensky and the breadbasket-case of Europe: The deep politics of a hybrid regime
Moon of Alabama has an article up “Screw The Facts – Europe Commits Itself To Further Escalation” which ends with:
Is it really difficult to understand that the path towards further fighting Russia will only lead to devastation? Why then is there no effort made to prevent it?
Comments span the gamut of explanations, from the Desperation of British Elites who must Win, to sunk costs fallacy and not knowing what is going on, historic hate of Russia, European countries as Vassals to the US, lack of independence, disgusting corrupt leaders (ex. Ursula), delusional thinking which sees the ‘W’ as superior no matter what – gotta stick to our plan death be damned or embraced -, to Elites being subject to control via blackmail, to some mention of consp. theories that point to the ‘plebs’ in European countries being targets of the ‘Elites’, anything effective for that aim being acceptable (de-population not mentioned..), and more… All good comments…
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So the ppl of Europe are not informed by their ‘leaders’ of the aims of all this. They have to guess, interpret, construct plausible / wild theories; the demise of the ‘democracy’ ideal, right there.
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Fear and ineptitude are the main reasons. The US is still seen as more powerful, deadly, than Russia.
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UKR. guerrillas are attacking NATO facilities? Idk if true? Was a long time coming…Noirette
ParticipantThe ‘war’ in UKR (provoked .. > a civil war with USuk supporting the Banderists) is lost, and has been ‘lost’ for a long time, depending on how one wants to define that, and how one envisions the possible outcomes.
Russia took over Crimea without splilled blood, the vote to join Russia reflected majority opinion (no comments on that for now) .. see also Donesk and L. split offs.
See how the “W” -> US as top boss, others who follow (Germany, Italy in first place, Axis powers in the past, now + UK, side-switcher, heh..) has been silent about Crimea for about a year or more now.
All those who ‘count’ and have ‘stakes’ in this game know that UKR could not survive in its 2010 form (done), nor do they care.
Slavs killing slavs is great, any dent made on Russia is wonderful, biz oppos in UKR (extractive industry / cheap labor / .. farming not so much, requires stability, etc.) will be ‘plentiful’ when things settle down. The public will just be fed BS via the State Prop MSM, Putin lost as he didn’t conquer Kiev in UKR, we need to defend Democracy, etc.
Russia will not give up until its ‘security’ is guaranteed. What exactly that will take Idk, as the European “W” has destroyed its credibility by being arrogant idiots…
Russia can no longer sign any accords (Merkel and Hollande admitting they lied about their adherence to the Minsk accords, who put them up to that I wonder, heh) with European countries / the EU. Moreover, ex ‘neutral’ countries, Sweden and Finland joining / applying to join NATO, Switz. putting stiff sanctions on Russia (beyond the ones mandated by the UN, which it now has to follow), Ireland on a kind of dodgy fence..hmm… opposition within Europe to the USuk-isr is diminishing as I write, all are ligning up to the Voluntary Loosers Club.
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Participantaspnaz posted, re. Bourdain.
Why the fuck did they kill him, that is the bit I don’t understand…
Yes, he was murdered, why is mysterious? Is tangled up? In the lower levels of celebrity, where a lot of acrimony, violence, etc. is tolerated?
His GF at the time, complicated … who knows. I don’t. Maybe there was a personal thing.
Note, the F State *always* covers up Anglo Suspicious Deaths (aka murders) on their territory.
See Lady Diana. That way, GB authorities / Police / S.S / Others/ can state, it didn’t take place here, we are limited in our reach, we are collaboratin’ with F Authorities, etc. Local GB groups (whatever) are thus limited, no local police, whistleblowers, witnesses, commentators, etc. nobody on the spot, it all happened on the Continent…
Very convenient.
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ParticipantJohn Day wrote: Dima at Military Summary channel reports that Macron cancelled his visit to Ukraine to sign a defense agreement for “security reasons” .. which are rumored to be that Ukraine planned to assassinate him and blame it on Russia.
Macron is terrified of physical violence and risk, he hides out when demos take place, and more, to the level of a shaking granny, say. He keeps this hidden as best as he, his staff, can.
As to plots to assassinate him, rumors can fly, and this one *may* have spooked him. I doubt the rumor is true, for sure the F SS would have known that, so it looks like just an ‘excuse’.
Anyways. Ze will travel to Paris instead.
Imho, the Macron visit was supposed to be a ‘soldering’ in some way(s) of F-Ukr ties, announcements, of ‘tight brotherly’ solidarity, and so on. Macron backed out (imho) because it is now accepted that Ukr. is in the pits and is to die a slow death / to be cut up, e.g. parts to Poland (Galicia ! ! ) and Blackrock, say, this last is just something I bang on about.
Note, the planned visit was joint junket, with a conglomerate of Biz (MEDEF international F-UKR) who also cancelled. Not a purely Gvmt-Leader visit. It was to discuss plans about re-building Ukr.
The plan was to announce 200 million Euros investment for re-build. (A small sum to be sure, yet a foot forward. The money comes in part from small biz who want oh-so-lucre stakes..
Macron was also supposed to announce that Ukr would now benefit for the F Agency of Development. (AFD in F. – being on the list awards some ‘guarantees’ of aid.) -> from F MSM press.
Just to say, much going on, and the competition right now is for who gets to control what, in the leftover, available, not too ruined, territory of Ukr. 1/3 of Ukr. rich farmland has already been sold off, beginning under Poroshenko, mostly to US Cos. (Afaik, no links to prove that right now.) F is a minor player, posturing and dancing around, it makes dates, backs out, etc.
MEDEF wiki in eng. http://tinyurl.com/25dkvckb
their site in eng. https://www.medef.com/en/
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Participant(> several top posts.)
The pretense of a ‘compos mentis’ Joe Geno is crumbling. The Democrat inner circle and masters have come to some realisation(s) and are now seeking a path to some ‘future’, I mean as a group, as no doubt some individuals have been plotting since day one.
That future doesn’t look good for the Dems. Independently of electoral machinations, varied skull-duggery, massive fraud (last election..) and the intricacies of US electoral procedures (see some expls. at top post) which I don’t grasp, the Dem Party has lost, is loosing, support massively.
Re. *only* personae and internal matters —> Booting out Bernie, the Bernie Bros, was a first kind of death knell, the second was a senile Prez hoiked up (neo-con-lib btw), and the third, which now comes into play, is the incumbent Vice, Kabala H.
This person would not be a successful manager of 2 pizza joints / a hair dressing salon / a skating rink, could not teach 6th grade with ease, could not cook for 40 ppl with 3 aides, could not manage a complicated HR computer program, etc. She was ‘selected’ as she was branded as representing a ‘minority’ but was not ‘black.’
sidebar: The Dems hate black ppl, at least those I have met in Europe do. Obama of course was not black, in the sense of being a descendant of slaves or ‘black’ immigrants. The son of a Kenyan/British foreignor and a US white gal linked to banking, academe, and maybe other …
Similar trajectories. The ‘Socialists’ in France became a non-entity with Hollande (long story), Macron and his backers and supporters took over the center-left and eliminated the competition. In GB, ppl here will be more familiar with that, Corbyn was thrown under the bus for ‘anti-semitism’ (amongst other sins), it took quite some strenuous (and degrading) effort but was accomplished.
Not that I lament the death of these parties, I am just describing. They had it coming, imho, good riddance. The true ‘left’ 🙂 will see another day – and rise. Or not.
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ParticipantChris Hedges. Not a fan, still I read the article at top post, OK.
What Isr. is guilty of as determined by Int’l bodies is sadly only marginally relevant, if at all.
I wrote some time ago that Isr. will just ignore whatever judgments / condemnations / demands / strictures are made, by any Int’l organism.
While Isr. has presented arguments in the prescribed setting, to appear to be participating., etc., to keep the locals on board (in the main Israeli Jews), signalling > We are defending our legitimate actions, we have valid arguments, we can stand up to Int’l BS, etc.
…. As it has been doing for 70 years, nothing new.
Netanyahu has said “Nothing will stop us” (14 jan, 2.25 min.)
In that, he hits the nail on the head. Who, what country, what entity, force, coalition, will take DIRECT (such as military actions) measures to stop the Genocide in Gaza? None, as Isr. is defended by the USuk.
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Participantaspnaz quoted: “The reluctance of key European countries France, Spain, and Italy to join the naval alliance indicated a growing skepticism among the US’s traditional partners — both western and West Asian — about Washington’s commitment and capability to defend its allies in any impactful way.”
more:
“In response to Yemen’s Ansarallah-aligned armed forces’ Red Sea blockade of Israeli-linked vessels, the US Department of Defense announced the formation of “Operation Guardian of Prosperity … to uphold the foundational principle of freedom of navigation” in those waters, initially consisting of a coalition of ten countries, most of them insignificant partners.”
from: https://thecradle.co/articles-id/20286
Re. France, Macron first joined / supported / adhered to (.. not clear, verbal declaratives..) this naval alliance, and then 2-3 days later back-tracked. (Can be documented from MSM articles in F.)
Allegedly, it was Army Generals who refused to act, on ‘ethical’ grounds – as against the ethics of Defense Forces. I have no proof of this, it was of course covered up. Macron has always been the Jupiter who just forges ahead, or back, or moves sideways, etc. Yet that Prez. initiatives, decisions, declarations / etc. be scotched in this way, i.e. for the public to be able to see it, is unprecedented (last 20 years.) *Imho*
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ParticipantIsrael. —– A two-state solution is what is always mouthed by all outside actors who pretend that they want ‘Peace.’ Particularly USuk and some EU countries. Now comes over as a cheery, folkloric, aspirational myth. Put forward to fool an ignorant public.
Potted history, offical version. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two-state_solution
Some highlights: *1947.* Partition Plan (never implemented) .. 1993. Olso accords.. hmm..
A 2-state solution will never arise. All top political actors know this. No outside party will attempt to enforce it. (Incl. USuk, EU, R, UN.) While Fatah (ostensibly – their real role and its hisotry is another topic) might have been ‘for’ as a presentable policy, they have been crushed by Hamas, who, btw, afaik, has never expressed any interest / demands in that direction. Certainly not in the past 4 months.
Isr. will never accept a 2-state solution. As an ‘ethnic’, ‘separatist’ and ‘expansionist’ entity, it can only continue to corral, oppress, imprison, kill, etc. the low-life unter-menschen (Palestinians, but not only.) It can’t give that up, if it did, it would loose its internal support (Israelis who have privileges, etc. but of course not all Isr. citizens) and its outside backers who fund it, arm it, and prop it up with image Kontrol and various other measures.
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ParticipantScott Ritter on his recent visit to Chechnya. Interesting enough. Vid, see from 0 to 21 mins.
LIVE: The International Court of Justice delivers its Order, from Syriana Analysis. 50 mins.
(re. S. Africa accusation > Israel .. genocide + its prevention)
A vid. doc.
Louis Theroux, 2011, BBC. 57 mins. … he investigates and interviews the nationalist Jewish settlers who have chosen to live in disputed areas of East Jerusalem and the West Bank, including locations declared illegal by even Israeli officials.
*The Ultra Zionists.* https://watchdocumentaries.com/the-ultra-zionists/
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ParticipantZelensky out of control (see top post) and Netanyahu going public saying,
“Nothing will stop us” -> not the Int’l court, Iran backed axis of evil, and no-one else! Fighting (he says) against HAMAS, the new Nazis ..
(Netanyahu is giving the finger to the US..) 1.20 mins, Hebrew, eng subs. http://tinyurl.com/f7k9bmtf
Note Obama hated and disregarded Net., Biden loathes him as well, they haven’t spoken on the phone for maybe, idk, 20 days..(?)
It looks very much like some alleged ‘allies’ aka Satraps paid to do whatever by the USA are no longer directly controlled by the BidAdmin, they (e.g. in Isr, Ukr..) are going down their own path, in a ‘rogue’ fashion, in a confused way, indulging in agression / murder, in line in part with their long-standing aims that were previously encouraged, supported by the USA, now sorta left on the back shelf. The Hegemon is rapidly going down…
Just one angle, there are others.
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ParticipantThe conflicts in Ukr. and Isr. are similar.
The CIVIL WAR aspect: One party tries to kill off, displace, get rid of the ‘bad, scum’ inhabitants, the undesirables, within a territory that is defined ethnically (etc.) and/or has a history or a hope as a ‘country’ ..
Isr. has no settled official borders, Gaza is controlled by Isr., the W. Bank is a patch of ethnic / religious enclaves controlled by Isr.
> *Pals / Arabs are scum.* (making it short.)
The Donbass in Ukr. was prev. for a long time part of Russia (USSR) and its inhabitants have been under attack since 2014 at least (Maidan) by the ‘Center’ + ‘W’ of Ukr. (Crimea managed to split off w. Russian support.)
> *Donbass Russkies are scum.* (short.)
Both are ‘controlled’ conflicts, they are not Great Powers in all-out war, but ‘minor’ (of course no. of deaths, etc. is horrific..) and various factions have different interests.
The glaring difference:
The Ukr. conflict was planned and directed by the US (+ allies, weakly..) since the collapse of the USSR, to the failed first Color Revol. in Ukr. (2004) to the harder, murderous, Maidan ‘coup’ (2014), followed by support for the Banderistas, targetting of Donbass ppl, and the ‘selection’ of Poroshenko, next, Zelensky, a better controlled puppet.
To provoke Russia, the Bear, attack it not only by sanctions, but on the ground in the Donbass, provoking it into a military response, which worked.
In Isr. the Locals in power, Netanyahu and other in his cabinet etc. reacted to all this concentration of US attention on the Donbass by creating mayhem that made them out to be victims, aw usual.
> Hamas attack that they certainly knew about, or directly sponsored … to get the US re-involved in defending Israel, as the US is turning away from the minuscule territory oupost in the ME. Obama and Biden loathe(d) Netanyahu. Negotiations, accords, if they take place, will be with Arab States. (Oil etc.)
Juat one take, one aspect.
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ParticipantRemembering… Namibia condemns Germany for defending Israel in ICJ genocide case.
The Namibia presidency slams Germany for failing to draw lessons from its own genocide against Namibian people in the early 20th century.
Wikpediai:
“The Herero and Namaqua genocide (or the Herero and Nama genocide) was a campaign of ethnic extermination and collective punishment which was waged against the Herero (Ovaherero) and the Nama in German South West Africa (now Namibia) by the German Empire. It was the first genocide to begin in the 20th century,[5][6][7] occurring between 1904 and 1908.”
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ParticipantTo add to zerosum who linked to Pascal L. blog, Neutrality Studies, prev. thread,
who wrote: Pascal Lottaz (the host of “Neutrality Studies”) explains why he thinks the strikes on Yemen is the 1st stage of the coming war against Iran. LLoyd Austin is in hospital and the neocons are seeing their chance of escalating the war(s) in the Middle East.
Alexander Mercouris sees an “inevitable escalation” pointing to a US attack on Iran, in the same vein.
The Duran, see after 1.11, http://tinyurl.com/3y82nv6h
Pascal L., another vid:
ICJ-Case is HOPELESS for Israel. But Technicalities Might Save It After All.
http://tinyurl.com/3n6t96nr .. is well worth a watch.
The question has always been, will the US relinquish, maybe in part only, its hegemony, assumed, global dominating superpower status, in some reasonable, “downplaying”, negotiating, way, or will it just blast on and use nukes destroying much of the world, once it is forced to admit its own vision of itself no longer holds?
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ParticipantOpen Doors Kick…
Promoting ‘diversity’ as exemplified and vaguely discussed in the last thread, i.e. hiking ppl of ‘color’ or ‘xyz disadvantaged’ (gay, disabled, trans-gender, etc.) is simply a means for those in power to put forward underlings who will do their bidding 100%, without question.
Racism / anti-gay in France is a HUGE topic of concern and justifies a lot …Don’t get me onto *Attal* as PM in F..
The result, a completely ‘fake’ ‘Gvmt’ and ‘Associative Society’ (applies to F..) where many important posts are occupied by ‘stooges’ who are under ‘orders’ – aka kindly formulated suggestions – which are carried out without question.
The stooges are often genuinely really impressed, star-struck, and adore their masters, some can’t believe their good luck, others rapidly adopt an arrogant attitude — the former are preffered by the PTB.
In the US, from far off, it seems that white men are particularly targeted, being demeaned, cancelled, imprisoned. The ‘revanchard’ mentality may account for some of that, but basically, imho, ppl are being manipulated by those in power, the divide-to-conquer strategy reaching an alarming apogee, stridency and actioning of levers to spread suspicion, hate, and the ‘norms’ one must adhere to as a ‘proper person’ going thru the roof.
> Objecting makes one a Nazi, a white supremacist, a terrorist, a Muslim radical, a Marxist, a Communist, a laughable clue-less retrograde idiot stuck in past epochs, a woman who doesn’t stand by other women, a person who wants to undermine democracy, etc. etc.
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ParticipantWhat, Gonzalo died?
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ParticipantOroboros, on the unvaxxed getting together, it was bound to become a societal trend.
Anyway, here the births in France 2015 – 2023.
The /p/ > 2023 means ‘provisional’ – not all nos. in yet.
https://lecourrierdesstrateges.fr/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/image_2024-01-04_200353429.png
F, in Europe, has always had a strong ‘pro-natality’ policy, in the form of aid to families, mothers, small children, etc. which was quite successful, traditionally making F a ‘high’ birth rate country, in comparison with say, Italy (in the pits) — as well as *most often* the ‘top’ of Europe for birth-rate, one ex. of stats:
Now no more….Apparently authorities have no interest in figuring out what is happening.
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ParticipantL. Austin was hospitalised in Emergency Care, ICU, for what? is not divulged, afaik.
> After a 3 min goog search, so idk? More details?
Why hide whatever it is? Why claim the primary cause was ‘elective surgery’? Heh, because it signals ‘whatever op’ was planned well in advance, normal, dont’cha know, he was just getting a nose-job, belly reduction, removal of some trivial viral ugliness (or some such thingie)..
So why were other officials not informed in time and proper procedures not put in place for his handing over / replacement, as is reported in the MSM ?
My guess is effects of the jibby-jab are being covered up in panic, with clashing narratives being put out. What was, is, his ‘illness’? How does one end up in the ICU for ‘elective surgery’ when one is a Top Guy?
Other scenarios are possible see above (Red, John Day) – who knows, I don’t claim to.
However a Defense Sec (or Min in other countries) being AWOL as ‘ill’ and such confusing and contradictory stories being put out is indicative of a *Failed State* (to put it very mildly.)
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ParticipantWES posted: Just ask Haiti about the Clinton’s helping.
Right on.
Haiti, never forgiven for ‘black slaves’ winning.
“The country thus became the first independent nation of Latin America and the Caribbean, the second republic in the Americas, the first country in the Americas to eliminate slavery, and the only state in history established by a successful slave revolt.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haiti
Can one hope that what the Clintons did will be exposed? Idk but doubt it.
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ParticipantOn: RT, Trump talks like a Nazi – prev. https://shorturl.at/deAR8
Lies (“insurrection”), smears (“insults women”), call it libel / slander etc., and blatant pop ops. — e.g. pix of Trump that one sees on a Goog search, are all standard.
Add in law-fare on all fronts (Stormy Daniels… I remember being in school train going up to N Switz., Vallorbe, snow all round, and the screen in the train showed news about that lady .. heh ..)
re. -> financial dealings, personal dealings, alleged roles in whatever, etc. to hopefully make him withdraw / kick him off the ballot / make him so disreputable, disgusting, that ppl can’t vote for him. Say.
The last doesn’t work, but it has to be done, as Dem. voters, enthusiasts, adherents, dependents (dollars), must be kept on board, corralled; the vilification has to continue, even expand, otherwise ppl might stop to think about policies, the future of the US, etc.
Maybe 60 .. years ago Trump would just have been shot. Hard to compare, as much has changed since then. The divide-to-rule via propaganda schemes has reached levels so extreme that there is *risk* of devastating civil disturbance in the US.
Plus, the myth of ‘democracy’ (votes not tallied, faked, Diebold to the rescue, more..) as an arbitrator that translates public opinion into Gvmt. policies has to be upheld, so there NEEDS to be two pol. parties, opponents, a kind of fight on the ground for the minds: Ppl have to take sides. Trump plays a role in that scenario, killing him off would be crass, risky, and destructive of the overall script, as it is presented.
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ParticipantEpstein.
I was never interested in the ‘sex’ supposed trafficking, and ‘blackmail’ potential aspects. Rich men have courts of well-paid young women hanging aroung, nothing new there…(Of course I condemn the trafficking and exploitation of underage children/teens, of vulnerable women, young men, etc. …)
The latest ‘revelations’ of Epstein ‘contacts’ are NOT new, all of them were known well before, from Epstein’s black book, from the flight logs, from official transcripts of court cases, and more, all available on the internet for years, even from MSM articles, etc.
As a fan of locked room mystery murders re. Epstein dying in his cell did grab my interest, I came to some conclusions, whatever. To add to that dossier, his brother, Mark, has recently spoken publically for the first time in MSM (afaik), interviewed by Tucker C.
Jeffrey Epstein’s Brother Reveals Everything He Knows. 25 mins.
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Participantfrom MoA listed at top post: – (b is good imho) –
The real aim is to remove all Palestinians from Gaza, to either kill them or to dump them in some foreign land. This would be followed by an attempt to remove all Palestinians from the West Bank before capturing and annexing the south of Lebanon.
However no foreign country is likely to support such a genocide and to take up the burden of millions of unruly refugees.
https://www.moonofalabama.org/2023/12/biden-needs-to-come-to-israels-and-his-own-rescue.html
Allrighty… All those who support Israel’s ‘attack on Hamas’ and consider Hamas ‘a terrorist organisation’ have spoken not ONE word about accepting refugees: Palestinians in Gaza, other, such as Christians, the Stateless, other Arabs, Orphan children, Unidentified Homeless, Refugees, etc.
At best, they pushed the ‘send them to the Sinai’ directive. For the rest, as the French say, •Silence Radio.•
Those who have declared Hamas a ‘terrorist org’, labelling as a sign of adherence to ….:
AUS, NZ and Paraguay. In part, only, as they draw a distinction between the political / military wing.
Plus, natch… USuk – isr. EU, Canada, and Japan. (list is from wiki, ok imho but things can change fast.)
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ParticipantTrump’s ‘X’ Xmas Message (no. 1 at top post, link below.)
Didn’t know he had gone that far, damning his enemies. His personal pov, perhaps understandable from his position, Hmm -> doesn’t count in the grand scope.
All is just one more glaring sign of the now ongoing rapid fall, heh, let’s say plunge into the fiery depths, of the USA’s hegemonic power.
Trump, Biden, Hunter B., others, are seen, all over the world, to be new style ‘Mafia’ Capos, using whatever available means to attack, discredit, stifle their political ‘accusers,’ enemies, Biz rivals, and more.
Using all means to hand (lawfare, lies, smears, false accusations, kontrol of media narratives, etc. not mentioning possible violence) and making it all **public**, see the digital aspect (Twitter-X etc.) to garner public support …? Heh, for votes in rigged elections?
All this looks more like .. Crazy US teenagers? Gang wars fought out with messages by rich people barricaded in their homes? Pathetic attempts to garner sympathy thru vilification, slander, playing the victim, making empty threats, etc.?
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ParticipantHollywood Celebrities Now Support Palestine in Record Numbers [Inspirational]
The CJ Werleman Show. vid. 11 mins. Dec. 22, 2023.
A beep-beep signal of turning tides.
Celebs. know nothing about Intl. politics, don’t care, and just follow along, to keep their status and fame, to remain in the ‘top in-group.’
The chatter in that class: They talk to each other all the time and have a kind of ‘solidarity’ amongst themselves (imho) now pivoting to support or at least empathise with Pals is of course ‘late in the game’ and merely ‘gotta get with the new narrative’ – we have to catch up etc. – it is all very very telling.
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ParticipantJo6: Putin Now Serious About Negotiating End To War: Diplomats.
Yeah, that just signals W’s hopes, delusions, grasping at straws.
Russia will decide and enforce everything and the W will try to put out some lame weak narrative to ‘explain it all’ and pretend ‘no loss.’
See for ex. NATO’s Stoltenberg: ‘Putin has lost Ukraine forever’
NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg has said that he believes Russia “has lost Ukraine forever” as a result of the war, and will not be able to achieve its war aims despite a massive military effort since the invasion in February last year.
https://news.yahoo.com/natos-stoltenberg-putin-lost-ukraine-104350240.html
🙂 !
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ParticipantUKR. The US has now admitted that UKR with US-poodle-W support cannot ‘beat Russia (R)’ *It is time to wind the conflict down, negotiate* is the message. (No more billions from the US, etc.)
The pref. US-W solution is a frozen conflict, where the loosing party isn’t seen to be loosing but in stasis, upholding ‘what is right’ but not venturing further for ‘humanitarian’ – ‘moral’ or ‘strategic’ or even ‘supremacist’ reasons, oh! it is all ‘complicated history’ etc.
Mega US-+ Cos. and affiliates already own a lot of land / biz interests / Gvmt. officials in UKR, so are keen to do ‘rebuilding’ with funds from x,y, investment into a,b.
I expect R, which will decide the outcome, may let the loosers save face somewhat, although Putin is publically furious about the duplicitous Minsk Accords — surely he didn’t believe in them to begin with, after one year. The EU -> Merkel and Hollande admitting they never intended to implement them will go down in history as one of the craziest moves ever. It probably isn’t even true, in Merkel’s case. Why alienate the super mega neighbor who actually (in Germany’s case) controls the economic power of the country? What pressure was applied from where?
R will not try to hold territory where the ppl are not ‘Russian’ and ‘pro-R’, as it doesn’t want to be a dominating occupier. R’s problems are more in the ‘too much territory’ – hard to defend – too low population – category. Which is why after 2014 it has done everything to encourage UKRs to emigrate to R, and paid to change the Edu. system in the Donbass to R.
So, what happens to the remainder of UKR that R will not want? Kharkiv and Odessa are often mentioned as R ‘aims’? Maybe…but then not further…?
Putin ‘+’ have repeatedly ‘warned’ / ‘hinted’ that Poland, natch, Hungary and Romania, want to re-claim Trad. ‘lands’ (in order, Galicia, Trans-Carpathia, Bukovina) and even Bulgaria has piped in (Bessarabia.) All 4 are EU countries, and their expansion would be subject to EU approval (> unelected leaders, etc.) The USuk might like to shelve this problem region onto the EU, so maybe. Other: a Rump UKR. with no military, no sea access, no good industry (etc.) a kind of no man’s land, might be acceptable to R and the US.
These options are being discussed, imho. Other outcomes are more apocalyptic.
Noirette
ParticipantHappy Holidays to All, let love of the living flourish, no matter what we can enjoy good meals and fun times with all the nice kiddos., without losing respect for the dead.
Noirette
ParticipantOroboros posted: Ukronazi tells reporter he supports Israel with a Nazi insignia on his sleeve.
Good find of a clip.
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ParticipantFrom prev. thread. Red posted:
Neil Ferguson is a cunt of high order.
Yes. ‘Predictive modelling’ of this shoddy type, according to the most charitable view, is akin to using divination stones, Ouija boards, visions from on high, prayer for guidance, etc. to predict the future.
Fuzzy descriptions by N.F. are BS, but the folklore funny is replaced with,
*Standard, elaborated, scientific views that are imposed by State authority.*
Imho. N. F. knew what he was doing with his analyses and predictions. They were, are, sort of marginally clever, superficially convincing. Hey, he gets paid, they like him, he is a hotshot, etc.
Noirette
ParticipantOn, US knows UKR can’t win. (from a top post) https://tinyurl.com/5y3hdrcr
That UKR could not win against Russia, even with USuk-NATO help in the form of arms, advisors, training, endless matériel, billions of dollaris, was obvious.
I’m ignorant about military matters, yet looking at a MAP, data from the World Bank, World Data, etc. — questioning 🙂 the ghosts of Napoleon and Hitler – knowing a bit of recent UKR history, social situation, governance, since 1990, etc. etc.
> That UKR would loose, be quashed, broken up, was a given.
Slavs killing Slavs, allrighty, Tennis anyone? Photo shoot with Scarlett Johansson?
From the Orange Revolution in 2004 (Yushenko, pro-W, after ditching his first wife and marrying a US woman with super level posts in the US state Dpt., poisoned with dioxin during his pol campaign, which he won against the pro-R Yanukovich) to today, after the Chocolate King (Poroshenko) scuttered away, to the Actor Zelensky, these stooges paid, directly or not, by USuk(eu), are coming to the end of their road.
Zelensky will be replaced, as the narrative requires it, soon or within a few months. The body language of those shunning him now is over the top. A sub. replacement figure will have a tough time so may be hard to pump up. Zaluzny is often mentioned, idk, seems doubtful in a way, who knows.
Russia will dictate the terms of the end-point of URK-R hostilities.
So what was the USuk + poodles trying to accomplish? Slavs killing slavs? Just decimate, too cool, kill! heh? Profits for the MIC? Grabbing territory, Foreign Mega-Cos buying up fertile land, in UKR, to do biz? Fighting a useless war for kudos, what? Poke the bear just ‘because’? Keep homies in fear? Protect BidAdmin interests in UKR? What?
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ParticipantHopper’s theme, which he illustrates superbly: Loneliness.
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ParticipantSupporting Palestinians against violence from Isr., its oligarchs, others, is being viciously repressed all over the W.
E.g. Ppl being arrested for brandishing a Pal. flag, (GB), preventing demos at any costs, etc. US Top Unis firing ppl left and right for supporting Palestine, cracking down on student opinion…The contradictions have become TOO STARK.
One can’t run a perpetual near-hysterical PR campaign against ‘discrimination’ – ‘hate’ to ostensibly protect minorities who are ‘oppressed’, such as gay ppl, LGTB, ‘non-White’ ppl, i.e. Blacks, Asiatics, Original ppl (whatever they are called in different countries), women who are always short-changed, handicapped ppl (that is a whole other horrible story..), etc.
> … While at the same time justifing the ethnic cleansing, outright murder, failing that, torture of Palestinians in Gaza!
The hypocrisy is too blatant.. The double standard too evident…young ppl get it…
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ParticipantOroboros, I remember the show of the 2012 Olympics, yes, strange, not readily interpretable…though many ppl were alarmed, iirc. This vid is 4 hours long watching it all to analyse it is a tough job.
*The Complete London 2012 Opening Ceremony | London 2012 Olympic Games.*
For light relief, Mr. Bean Live Performance at the London 2012 Olympic Games.
5.5 minutes. http://tinyurl.com/mu5yn2hn (Why was he there?) The Spice Girls did a show as well.
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