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ParticipantIt’s baaaaccckkk…. The village idiot bot. With another twitter cut and paste, right on schedule, just as expected, inhuman as ever.
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Participant“If the Society for Worldwide Interbank Financial Telecommunication cuts ties with Russian banks, Germany would have no way of paying Moscow for its natural gas contracts.”
There is always a ₿ackup payment option to the SWIFT system.
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ParticipantWow! What a totally amazing painting that is…The detail and it’s subtlety is fascinating…Just how does one embrace the totality of it?
First I look at the woman. Then I try to figure what’s going on in the painting behind her. Then I read the title. Then I notice the balance, which I probably would not have noticed for a long time if I did not read the title.
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Participant“nobody talks while they are on the subway or bus, and everyone wears a mask.” Yup. Sounds wonderful.
I forgot to add: Virtually everyone with eyes glued to their phone. To me that’s the creepy part. YMMV.
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Participantcan anyone point me toward some reliable independent data on the safety profile of this particular vaccine.
All 15,139 participants who had received at least one dose of vaccine or placebo through the data cutoff date of the final efficacy analysis were assessed for unsolicited adverse events. The frequency of unsolicited adverse events was higher among vaccine recipients than among placebo recipients (25.3% vs. 20.5%), with similar frequencies of severe adverse events (1.0% vs. 0.8%), serious adverse events (0.5% vs. 0.5%), medically attended adverse events (3.8% vs. 3.9%), adverse events leading to discontinuation of dosing (0.3% vs. 0.3%) or participation in the trial (0.2% vs. 0.2%), potential immune-mediated medical conditions (<0.1% vs. <0.1%), and adverse events of special interest relevant to Covid-19 (0.1% vs. 0.3%). One related serious adverse event (myocarditis) was reported in a vaccine recipient, which occurred 3 days after the second dose and was considered to be a potentially immune-mediated condition; an independent safety monitoring committee considered the event most likely to be viral myocarditis. The participant had a full recovery after 2 days of hospitalization. No episodes of anaphylaxis or vaccine-associated enhanced Covid-19 were reported.
Two deaths related to Covid-19 were reported, one in the vaccine group and one in the placebo group. The death in the vaccine group occurred in a 53-year-old man in whom Covid-19 symptoms developed 7 days after the first dose; he was subsequently admitted to the ICU for treatment of respiratory failure from Covid-19 pneumonia and died 15 days after vaccine administration. The death in the placebo group occurred in a 61-year-old man who was hospitalized 24 days after the first dose; the participant died 4 weeks later after complications from Covid-19 pneumonia and sepsis.
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Participantis that what they do in africa?
Sounds like a reasonable comment. I am troubled by masks with holes 1000x the size of a virus, being able to stop it. “People in Asia eat more rice” sounds good too. Most people in the west practice social distancing. And Asians still get on subways and buses. Overall, not totally convincing.
I thought that Africa was doing better because of a combination of two things: (i) the widespread use of Ivermectin, and (ii) the much greater percentage of time people spend outdoors. That does not negate the effectiveness of masking and social distancing. It just shows that there are other variables that can also reduce transmission.
Yes, Asians get on subways and buses. But virtually nobody talks while they are on the subway or bus, and everyone wears a mask. People do not even wear N95 masks — nobody wears an N95 mask. But they are not makeshift DIY cloth bandana masks either. Although people crowd into buses, subways and elevators, people do not spend that much time in those enclosed spaces. Most of the aeresol transmission comes from people sharing the same unventilated air for several hours. Remember: a single virus particle is not going to cause disease. You need more exposure than that, a higher inoculum.
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ParticipantHooray. Steve Kirsch got 4 out of 6 correct. He gets bonus points for getting the most important 4 correct.
The two where Steve missed the mark were where he dissed masks and social distancing. Why Steve, why? Look at the data! Look at the scoreboard! It is not even close! In Asia, where masking and social distancing are widespread, we are totally kicking your ass. It is mostly in the US, which has the worst statistics by a mile, and where there has been the most resistance from Day 1 to masking and social distancing, where there is a “blinders on” religious resistance to masking and social distancing. And just look at the numbers! Not even close!
I have my complaints against the pro-pharma kiss-the-ring vaccine-only slavish and mindless obeisance of the Korean approach. But give credit where credit is due. When it comes to controlling transmission, we are totally kicking your ass, and it is because of masking and social distancing.
Apart from these two blind spots, good work, and please continue the good fight!
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Participant“Both arguably WITH not FROM”
Or perhaps “WITH and partially FROM” — how do we categorize that? WITH? FROM? BOTH?
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Participant“The people still engaging with disruptive commenters at this point have equal responsibility for degrading the dialogue. What the hell are you trying to prove at this point. Fucking stop already.”
The bot version of delationista is only capable of cutting and pasting tweets and adding insults. No surprise there — the bot is designed to be divisive and to provoke a response. That’s part of its programming. That’s why there is no humility, no conceding a point, no empathy, and no appreciation for nuance — that’s not part of its programming. I sometimes respond, briefly, but without any expectation of honest engagement. Why do I do it? Some of these things should not go unanswered.
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ParticipantThe sheep dog picture is the art of the day for me.
As far as today’s essay, I will repeat what I have already said several times. The “from/with Covid” distinction is a false dichotomy. We would like a world where there is a singular cause for all bad things that happen, but that is not how life works. Several days ago Ilargi asked for evidence of single Omicron death. I pointed out that one of the articles in the debt rattle for that same day referred to an Omicron death in Israel. I linked to an article noting two Omicron deaths in Korea on the same day. But now these do not count because the articles did not rule out any other contributing causes??? Does that make any sense? That’s not how we keep data. It never has been. Doctors have a choice for what to write on the death certificate. When there are multiple contributing causes, they often pick one. They do not list them all. They will often select the “last straw” that pushes the patient over the edge. We are moving the goalposts if we insists on making a from/with distinction at this stage.
Likewise, it may be a mistake to focus solely on death and ignore chronic disease. Omicron might not trigger a cytokine storm like the original strain and delta, but we can expect that it is binding to ACE2 receptors everywhere, and that cannot be a good thing. I have refused the gene transfer vaccines because of my concern about repeated exposure to the spike protein and its interactions with ACE2 receptors. For that reason, I am as wary of Omicron as I am of the vaccines, especially because we lack the long term data of immune protection. We do not have the data to dismiss Omicron as “one and done.” This is not a natural virus. It is a bioweapon. Omicron is not a naturally evolved strain, but appears to have been engineered with carefully selected mutations to enhance infectiousness. Maybe it was done with good intentions, but I see it as yet another grand mass scale experiment, just like the first round of vaccines.
Those who are responsible need to be held accountable.
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Participant“Art shines and makes the world a brighter place among the ruins…”
Beauty will save the world.
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Participant“Well guess what! Today I found out on a financial website of all places, that the Germans were not fooled by the rubber Sherman tanks. Proving that Germans have a sense of humor, the Luftwaffe bombed some of these rubber Sherman tanks with wooden bombs!”
You mean woodies for the rubbers?
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Participant“And she’s outdone herself this time: Glyphosate causes COVID. Nope, not kidding.”
Not so fast. That is not what she wrote. Rather, in the early days of the pandemic, in May 2020, she wrote an article noting, correctly, that some people had a strong innate immune response, while others had severe cases. She hypothesized that Glyphosate might play a role in that. The original piece is here:
https://www.ashtarcommandcrew.net/profiles/blogs/connecting-the-dots-glyphosate-and-covid-19-by-stephanie-seneffThe article that Deflationista linked to is a hit piece that creates a misleading impression.
I am not saying that I agree with Seneff now, or that I ever agreed with her hypothesis. Only that I disapprove of Deflationista’s reliance on hit pieces full of ad hominem, strawman, and non sequitur logical fallacies to try to discredit people it disagrees with. I have no problem with researchers forming hypotheses and then testing them. That’s what science is. That some hypotheses turn out to be flat out wrong, or remain unproven, does not by itself discredit the person who made them.
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ParticipantIs it too extreme to suggest that those who violated the Nuremberg Code in 2021-2022 should face the same consequences as those who violated the Nuremberg Code in 1939-1945?
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ParticipantMark Dolan’s prediction really nailed it:
“in a similar way to those who now claim never to have supported the Iraq war”Exactly!
A little like Germany after WWII, when everyone who had served in the army claimed: “I was the cook.”
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Participant“The best example I saw was in a local Greek paper -in English- that not just called every positive test a “case”, a widely accepted piece of nonsense …”
Not sure I agree with this. It makes perfect sense to me to define a positive test as a case. Doing that creates a bright line rule. It makes sense in countries that are still trying to track and trace, and have people who test positive stay at home, and have their family members quarantine at home too. I realize that tests can be problematic if the cycle threshold is too high, but that is a separate issue. As long as the cycle threshold is appropriate, a positive test tells you something that is relevant from a public health perspective.
What is the alternative? Defining a case as a person with symptoms? How do you measure that if many people with symptoms do not report? Defining a case as a doctor’s diagnosis? Again, how do you collect that data, and where do doctor’s draw the line? Does a case mean a hospitalization? If you move that far on the spectrum, and that’s the only data you are paying attention to, then you’ve pretty much given up on containment. For many countries that have given up on containment, a positive test might be an antiquated and useless data point. But for those that are still trying to track and trace, it is still the most relevant data point.
Same issue with the “with/from” distinction, whether talking about deaths or hospitalizations. Of course we can conceptually distinguish the person who goes to the hospital with a broken bone, and happens to have an infection that is not causing disease. But for other cases, the distinction might not be so easy to make? How to draw the line? Are health systems set up to collect and filter data that way? Is it practical to expect that? When disease has multiple contributing causes, how do you deal with that when you are compiling data? I don’t think we can simply dismiss all of the data as meaningless. Rather, it is better to keep collecting it according to the same parameters (for consistency), but to recognize that it will never be perfect.
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ParticipantSimon Johnson was doing great work back in 2009, and then he seems to have disappeared. For awhile he was doing a blog with James Kwak, but then Kwak basically took over. When that happened the blog lost focus and I stopped reading.
Barry Ritzholz also had a great blog back then, but he eventually threw in the towel and went back to making money in the corrupt system, toning down all of the criticism, even though the system remains rotten to the core.
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Participant“When can we stop talking about Covid? So much bullshit…so little time…”
I would love to resume the uplifting conversation about Bitcoin and the broken financial system. Did you see the recent Michael Hudson transcript over on NC talking about the Marten’s article about the Fed’s illegal loans, which have been unreported in the mainsteam press? Great stuff. An excerpt from Hudson:
Well, what happened, apparently, was that while the Dodd-Frank Act was being rewritten by the Congress, Janet Yellen changed the wording around and she said, “Well, how do we define a general liquidity crisis?” Well, it doesn’t mean what you and I mean by a liquidity crisis, meaning the whole economy is illiquid.
She said, “If five banks need to borrow, then it’s a general liquidity crisis.” Well, the problem, as she points out, is it’s the same three big banks, again and again, and again and again.
And these are not short-term loans. She points out that they were 14-day loans; there were longer loans. And they were rolled over, not overnight loans, not day-to-day loans, not even week-to-week loans. But month after month, the Fed was pumping money into JP Morgan and Citibank and Goldman.
But then she points out that, or at least she told me, that these really weren’t Citibank and Morgan Chase; it was to their trading affiliates. Now this is exactly what Dodd-Frank was supposed to prevent.
Dodd-Frank was supposed to protect the depository institutions by trying to go a little bit to restore the Glass-Steagall Act that Clinton and the Obama thugs that came in to the Obama administration all got rid of.
It was supposed to say, “OK, we’re not going to let banks having their trading facilities, the gambling facilities, on derivatives and just placing bets on the financial markets – we’re not supposed to help the banks out of these problems at all.”
So I think the reason that the newspapers are going quiet on this is the Fed broke the law. And it wants to continue breaking the law.
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Participant“I wouldn’t take any vaccine at this point in time if they offered a million $$$ per injection…”
Steve Kirsch also prefers to avoid all the Covid vaccines if possible, but here he explains why Novavax and Covaxin are better choices than the gene therapies currently available in the US:
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Participant“We are still at zero confirmed deaths… From Omicron, that is. Not from the vaccines.”
At least one in Israel according to the article in today’s debt rattle. Plus at least two today in Korea according to today’s Korea Biomedical Review:
http://www.koreabiomed.com/news/articleView.html?idxno=12929Small numbers, yes, but still greater than zero, which is to be expected . . .
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ParticipantToday I went to my local hospital, a university hospital, to get my third and final dose of the Hepatitis B vaccine. The last visit was in August. During that visit the professor asked me if I wanted to get the Covid vaccine. I said “no thank you.” The professor did not ask me why, and did not try to change my mind, but just gave me what seemed, at the time, like a knowing glance.
This time, the professor did not even ask if I had received a Covid vaccine or if I wanted one. So I brought up the subject: “Tell me the truth. I want to know what you really think. What do you think about these Covid vaccines?”
Answer: “Well, I got it … [long pause] … because we had no choice. I received two shots, plus a booster, and we didn’t even have any choice as between the Astra Zeneca and the Pfizer … [another long pause] I wish I could have waited for the Novavax vaccine. It is a safer, superior technology. But I had no choice ….”
I explained that I will probably need one eventually because my work requires international travel, but that if I have to get one, I will wait for the Novovax.
The response: “That’s what I would do. I wish I had that choice.”
It was refreshing to hear a candid response that did not simply regurgitate the official propaganda.
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ParticipantThe case fatality rate here is Korea is downright awful.
In Korea, a case is defined as a positive PCR test. Cumulatively there have been 667,390 positive PCR tests and 6,071 deaths attributed to Covid. Across all age groups that’s an overall case fatality rate of nearly 1%. That’s a hell of a lot worse than the flu. It’s atrocious. Almost criminal. But that’s what happens when you combine (i) no early treatment and (ii) more than 80% of the population severely deficient in Vitamin D. Korea has a much lower obesity rate than Western countries, so should be doing better — but it’s the opposite.
Even if Omicron is much less severe, Korea is going to have a tough time with this as long as the authorities continue to reject early treatment and do nothing about the Vitamin D situation.
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Participant“These rates indicate that the small risks of myocarditis from vaccination are still outweighed by the risks of Covid-19.”
Golly gee whiz. I guess if we really care about health, if we really care about myocarditis, then maybe we should start early treatment for Covid outpatients? Or should we instead keep telling them to stay home until the earlier of (i) chest pains, or (ii) their lips turn blue.
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Participant“Kimo wrote, “Ian Ricksecker was an interesting read, I kept thinking, if the virus does all of this, why would I want to inject it’s spike protein?”
I had exactly the same thought, followed the this:
I can get the shot three times, and then get Covid, meaning that I get four cumulative exposures to massive amounts of spike protein. Or I can wait until I get Covid, and only have one exposure. All things being equal, I choose one exposure rather than four.
Ah, but all things are not equal, our robot friend deflationista will say: Getting the shot reduces the risk of a serious case. Which may be true, but overlooks there are other proven measures one can also take to reduce the risk of a serious case. I can see how the over 65 and serious co-morbidities crowd might see the risk calculus and very rationally say “I’ll take the three shots.” But I can also see the younger, healthier, Vitamin D supplementing, exercising, ivermectin-taking, fluvoaxamine in the medicine cabinet crowd just as rationally saying “I only want exposure to the spike protein once, not four times.”
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ParticipantJust playing devil’s advocate, Chooch, but one might look at that chart and say “See what happened when they stopped the lockdowns?”
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ParticipantThere needs to be some comeuppance once this is all over.
https://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/world/2022/01/501_321707.html
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ParticipantHAHAHAHAHAHA. Oh my god. It never ends. All the vaccinistas get covid despite taking their beloved gene therapy.
First it was, “we need to get to 70%”, the “we need to get to 85%”.
Now it is “we need booster doses”.
For fucks sake.
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ParticipantFor those that have a difficult time listening to Robert Malone for 3 hours, I suggest to listen to the second half. And if 1.5 hours is still too long, I think the best content is in the first half of the second half.
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ParticipantIt makes no sense to me to say that a PCR test cannot distinguish a coronavirus from an influenza virus. The test is all about gene sequences, and the gene sequence of a coronavirus does not look anything like a gene sequence of influenza. We are talking about gene sequences, not visual appearance. To the uninformed, the Japanese language might be mistaken for Korean. But to anyone with the slightest degree of familiarity, these are completely different. Even complete gibberish in Korean can never be mistaken for Japanese and vice versa. This idea that PCR sequencing cannot distinguish between these two virus makes no sense at all. It is an incomprehensible argument.
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ParticipantLovely Grinchdog!
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ParticipantWishing Raul and everyone at TAE a peaceful and merry Christmas.
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ParticipantGood interview with Dr. Hakim Djaballah, who was formerly at Institut Pasteur in Korea. He always has interesting and provocative things to say, and he has a nuanced view on many issues.
“I strongly believe that your population is your best partner in managing the pandemic and getting out of it. The more you antagonize them, the more problem you’re going to be faced with.”
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Participant“South Korea continues to see record high case numbers, despite 99% mask compliance and 85% of their entire population being vaccinated, which is odd because I’ve been told by CNN experts that masks prevent infections and that an 85% vaccination rate would get us past COVID”
Yes, record high cases here, but in the range of about 7000 cases per day. That’s still pretty low considering that the population is 53 million and the population density is high — much higher than the USA, which had 234,000 cases yesterday, with a population of 330 million. South Korea has made plenty of mistakes, especially (i) too much emphasis on vaccines, (ii) ignoring widespread Vitamin D deficiency, and (iii) completely ignoring early treatments like fluvoxamine, ivermectin, chloroquine, and nitazoxanide. But South Korea’s social distancing and high masking compliance has kept case counts much much lower per capita than the “masks don’t work” USA!
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ParticipantA well thought out and well written letter for those who have eyes to see and ears to hear.
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ParticipantDying WITH Omicron is not the same as dying FROM Omicron, and being in hospital with it says nothing either, if you don’t know a patient’s age, history, comorbidities etc.
All very true, but where does the with/from distinction leave us? It’s a tricky question. What happens when a person’s death is caused by a combination of things? Suppose a person has diabetes, Covid, and hypertension and all of these are working together to make someone sick enough to die — but the person would have gone on living with two of those three conditions. How do you count that death? Do you just pick one of the three? Do you say “cause unknown”? Do you list all three contributing causes? If you do that, how should the statistic be counted? As 1 Covid death? 0 Covid deaths? Or 1/3 of a Covid death? Or do you just leave it up to the doctor’s judgment?
I am not sure what the answer ought to be.
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Participant@phoenixvoice
I do not think that cross immunity can be the reason. SARS and MERS never really got a foothold here. Both were major scares, but they were snuffed out pretty quickly, and they never circulated widely.I recall in the early days of the pandemic Chris Martenson did a video on masks. Someone found a way to photograph (and video) all of the droplets that come out of our mouths when we talk. Somehow that was all colored in the video so it could be easily visualized on the film. Without masks people were spewing stuff everywhere, but with masks, all of that was held in. I remember watching that video and thinking: “Yes, seeing is believing. With this camera/filming trick, I can now see this with my own eyes.” That was around the time when there were a series of super-spreader events involving choirs and singing. Some of the early super-spreader events in Korea involved call centers where people were sitting right next to each other blathering into the phone all day long. So it was really no surprise after seeing that video how these became super-spreader events.
After that it became known that the virus is spread not only by droplets, but by airborne transmission. So yes, you can spread this and pass it even if you are wearing a mask, but in my head I still visualize that video and thinking that we’d all be better off keeping all of those droplets to ourselves, even if some people will pick it up by airborne transfer.
All of this reminds me of the old debate about passing out condoms in schools. Some people raise an objection that condoms are not 100%. They are right. They object that condoms might give a false sense of security. Right again. But in spite of those objections, the risk is lower when people use condoms. The mindset in Asia is that the risk of catching this virus is lower if everyone wears a mask. How much lower may be a subject of debate, but the consensus here is that it is lower.
And conceding your point that correlation isn’t causation, the correlation is pretty striking and otherwise hard to explain . . .
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Participant@VeraciousPoet
I suppose their are two different kinds of sheep. Silent sheep led to the slaughter in one category. Loud, annoying, bleating sheep in one category. The former probably scored high marks in math class.
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Participantyet, yet pretty well all already went and got their jabs! You know, … explanation goers: … cant go to the hockey game without an official QR code
Up until today, the rule in Korea has been that not everyone needs to be vaccinated to eat at a restaurant. Originally the maximum group was four, and at least two needed the pass. Then at least three needed the pass. Then it was a group of only two, and at least one needed the pass.
Under the new rule, effective tomorrow, unvaccinated people can go to a restaurant, but they must eat alone. No exceptions for families. My wife got the vaccine, and she has the pass. So we can eat together at the dinner table at home, but now if we go to a restaurant, we would need to sit at separate tables. Does that make any sense? The purpose is to cajole the remaining holdouts to get the clot shot.
I ask myself: “Will there be pushback now that they are moving to a ‘booster every three months’ program”? Surely people will see the madness for what it is? Especially since the vaccine does not stop Omicron? Alas, the madness has already gone on longer than I expected, and Korea is just finally getting to the “hit the panic button” stage.
There are no vaccine mandates here. It’s a softer form of pressure. My company has no vaccine mandate, but now I cannot go out to lunch or dinner with any members of my team, even one on one, because I would have to sit alone. This is a problem because I am the team head. How long can this go on? Maybe I get lucky, we go into lockdown, and everyone works from home. Is that what I should be hoping for?
So anyway, I understand the logic of ultimately biting the bullet and getting the shot. But I am hoping to put that off as long as possible.
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ParticipantMaybe I have been in Asia too long, but I just don’t get the opposition to masks.
The opposition to “vaccine only” strategies – I get it
The opposition to vaccine mandates — I get it.
The opposition to vaccinating children — I get it.
The opposition to spike protein vaccines — I get it.
The opposition to boosters every three months – I get it.
The opposition to media scaremongering — I get it.
The opposition to lockdowns — I get it.
The opposition to the corrupt Fauci — I get it.
The opposition to the corrupt FDA, WHO, NIH — I get it
The need to embrace early treatment with repurposed drugs — I get it.But on masks, I just don’t understand the opposition. This strikes me as common sense. Don’t tell me they don’t work. Look at the overall experience in Asia, where widespread mask use has been common from the beginning, and compare that to the overall experience in mask-averse countries. There’s no comparison. It’s like night and day. But as I said, maybe my experience of being here so long colors my idea of what I think of as common sense.
Korea did some things right, like contact tracing and testing, but they have been abysmal at other things, like treating people who actually come down with the disease. The current overall case fatality rate here is 0.83% across all age groups — and that counts every single positive PCR test. Basically, if you get the virus your odds here are much worse than just about anywhere else. Why is that? I think a big part of it is that more than 80% of the population is seriously deficient in Vitamin D, and they have been for years.
Current daily cases are in the 7000 range, in a country to 53 million people, and the healthcare system is stretched to capacity with ICU beds full. So they are tightening the social distancing measures again because 7000 cases per day is all the system can handle. At that rate the country will not be able to reopen for another 20 years — by that time, at 7000 cases per day, all 53 million people will have had the virus once. Yet they apparently can’t do the math. And they won’t experiment with early treatment. No discussion of trying fluvoxamine, ivermectine, nitazoxanide, dutasteride, chloroquine. Nope, they are instead adopting a “vaccine only” and then “wait at home until your lips turn blue” approach. They have 92% of the adult population “fully vaccinated” and have said they will move to boosters every three months. As if that it going to work.
The whole point of shutting down the economy was to buy time to learn about thsi disease and how to treat it. The authorities here have learned nothing. There is no Plan B.
The only thing that has saved us is that at least the people have the common sense to wear masks. Haha!
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Participant“Which donation system, leave the most in your pocket, cost less. (conversion/exchange fee, pay pal, patreon, checks, cash)”
That’s an easy one: ₿itcoin!
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