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NZDSOS come at swinging (G_d bless ’em): https://nzdsos.com/2021/07/22/deaf-to-the-deaths/
@ Dr D
Despite my respect for your posts – seriously, WTF?!
China attacked the US (via Detrick) who then attacked China.. Seriously.. What.The Fuck?
Ron Unz will spent 5000 words explaining his logic – yes, Covid in Iran immediately after Covid hit the news, and killing several of Iran’s legislature is a good solid argument, well made.
WTF is a couple paragraphs suggesting the US did that in response to a first attack? Unless I missed something.. the evidence was so brief..
It’s a trainwreck. There’s a vast amount of bullshit. Geo-politics and self-interest continue as usual, driving humanity towards the precipice. Yep – same ol’ same ol’
Interesting article on the conspicuous failure of the “Zero Covid” strategy across a variety of countries: https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/zero-covid-catastrophe-participating-nations-see-new-records-across-board
It was always transparently magical thinking, which makes it so extraordinary the majority here in NZ seem unable to see through it.
PS: that said, a new group of GP’s has sprung up here to fill the gap of CovidPlanB who appear to have passed the cudgel on. They appear to have taken the gloves off very early and I’m enjoying their output: https://nzdsos.com/posts/
@Ilargi Australia is done. Pull the plug and let it pour down the drain. The only things people there think are “wrong” in their isolation campaign are in not building quarantine accomodation, and in not ordering vaccines fast enough. Blind as bats.
You nailed it. The batshit insane thing about Australia and NZ is that the media output is as decoupled from the rest of the world as our borders. The border isolation plus media echo-chamber in these parts means the fear has been stoked exponentially. Whereas in Europe and the US there are counterfactuals provided by bordering countries or states, down here it’s a mono-factual. The majority truly believe we’ve dodged a plague of biblical proportions due to the wisdom and efficacy of the politicians.
It is the best example I’ve ever seen of why plurality of opinion is perhaps the most essential defence against tyranny.
“A high-functioning psychopath would box Fauci into himself with ease. Putin, for example, would have him squirming on the ropes in ten questions”
I agree that a high functioning psychopath would roundly trounce Fauci. I don;t understand why you consider Putin to be one. Every transcript I’ve read of Putins, or (subtitled) video clip I’ve witched, Putin appears far too savvy as to the genuine emotion behind the questions he faces to be purely responding intellectually.
apropos the Chiva vs Us thing, Fred Reed is very on point today: https://www.unz.com/freed/watching-china-anatomy-of-a-suicide/
I dunno if it’s true, but his line “Reading of Chinese efforts, one gets a sense of motion, agility, vitality remarkable in a nation that in 1976, when Mao died, was the poorest nation on earth.” is stunning
Several thanks today:
Ilargi – great compilation of posts – thanks you
the commentariat – some wonderful discussion on all levels
News from NZ – the NZ govt has just approved the J & J vaccine as a second to Pfizer. Good to know there’s a non-mRNA option available, though I have as little faith in J & J. Maybe least-worst of the two for now.
Having backed the (idiotic) “isolate and vaccinate” strategy, the NZ govt is waaaay late in receiving enough vaccine (I consider this a blessing..). Rather than question their strategy (and to deal with the mRNA-hesitant) the new approval has been announced with zero socialisation or debate.
Stadler and Waldorf were true intellectuals by comparison…
Re the NZ, Australia, Canada thread earlier.. curious that anti “hate speech” legislation seems be arising at least in Canada and NZ presently (I assume Australia will either follow, or won’t need to because the judiciary simply don;t enforce the law:
In all cases, driven (and possibly written) by the colonising power…
@Bill7 “Who the f*ck else should do the deciding?”
Indeed – you nailed it succinctly.
One of the gobsmacking things to me has been the way vast numbers of health practitioners appear incapable of recalling their own hypocratic oath – first do no harm.
With that oath in mind, and knowing the speed and lack of clinical trials underpinning the vaccines, how can any health practitioner possibly offer them in anything but the most guarded and caveated terms?
Not that they couldn’t/shouldn’t offer vaccines as a medically-approved treatment (to withhold access by patients to them would be just as unethical), but with full evidence (pros and cons), with the patient making an informed, unpressured decision.
Of course the vaccine uptake in France shows what the patient response is to that….
Thanks for the comments and responses today.
I was unnaturally cranky this morning when I wrote, so I was worried I’d taking the proverbial shit in the communal living room that I’d live to regret..
I don’t know if it was related (because standard temporal physics would be undermined), but this afternoon Wellington NZ went into “Level 2” because an Australian travelled through the city, then tested positive once they returned home.. Jesus wept…
Now they’re trying to trace contacts/locations.. my organisation are working from home till Monday.. and it’s my 8yo daughter’s birthday on Friday.. at this stage her birthday plans are still on track (ie less than 100 people gathering.. I assume they can stay 2m+ apart at laser strike..)
It hurts. It’s deeply demotivating, and depressing. I had a rant this afternoon at a coworker who was deeply proud to have got some of the first vaccines in Auckland, together with his wife. Nothing too bad, but how do collegial relationships persevere when they say “I got one of the first vaccines” and I reply “I’m sorry to hear that”.
And yes I can pull my head in and BS or say nothing, but that’s less and less tenable over time..
The tension it’s a building, and something’s gonna happen even if we don;t know what.
And if i can paraphrase my earlier comment today – I for one am glad that Taibbi has taken to the pen, regardless of how late it was. He’s built a platform for himself from first principles. He’s not protected by a corporate legal team with wodges of cash and inside connections. He’s not made Covid a theme of his columns. But when he brings he credibility to the contrary party.. I want to welcome it. Late, no problem.. hopefully he’s one of us now..
This is difficult to phrase without sounding disrespectful for all the value you provide at TAE, but I’m not convinced that you – of all people – get to question why Taibbi et al were slow to the party.
A year ago, TAE was focussed pretty much exclusively on Worldometer stats, Taleb’s “maximum cautionary principle”, the necessity of lockdowns, and the value of vaccines.
A few of the crankiest contrarians amongst the commentariat were adamant that on first principles every MSM screed we were being saturated with was pure idiocy, or at the very least questionable but we were very much in the minority.
Credit to you – with the accumulation of evidence over time, you changed your mind.. and sooner than the Taibbi’s of the world have done. But it seems to me the TAE commentariat changed your thinking rather than vv, which is presumably the same process that has happened with Taibbi. In which case labelling his slow uptake as “cute” feels a bit off to me.
It puts me in mind of Upton Sinclair: “It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.”
I was following up on what happened to the NZ CovidPlanB team who were very vocal in the early days of Covid. Since about Q1 this year they’ve wound down their voice, most likely I suspect from exhaustion.
But they linked to this site of GPs, dentists etc in NZ raising their voices: https://nzdsos.com
They’ve published their exchange of letters with the Medical Council in NZ (who are demanding GPs get vaccinated) and Medsafe who license medicines here. The authorities make my skin crawl with their blind obeiscance to bid pharma “authoritay”: https://nzdsos.com/letters/
It illustrates Hopkin’s point perfectly – this is not a rational debate.
I liked those quotes earlier. Followed the Charles Murray link you posted, hoping it was from there, but no.
Would you post a link to the source?
Amongst several sites, I read xymphora most days.. that definitely precludes me from judging your source.. 😉
To mitigate and ameliorate the human condition was good, he said. To lose it altogether was a catastrophe because we can only know God as creatures – i.e. created or given beings – not as gods who have taken charge of our own destiny.
A perfect, succinct statement of how and why personal ego needs to be kept in check.
@my parents said know – you beat me to posting that same link. It’s absolutely perfectly in illustrating that TPTB don’t remotely believe the BS they solemnly excrete upon us plebs. Will they all be quarantining on returning to their own countries after their unmasked sojourn..? Like hell they will!
Eric Clapton brings up some of these points, I was happy to see. Always liked him.
Whereas I was always pissy that Stevie Ray Vaughan died instead of Clapton when Clapton offered his seat to Vaughan and the helicopter crashed. I always thought Vaughan was the better musician.
But I shall gracefully retract and reconsider.. perhaps Clapton had an extra role to play in the human drama..
Here’s the link to the full vid that I posted a section of in the last post:
Some hyperbole, but overall a very interesting watch.
Someone (statistically, probably Germ.. 😉 may have linked to this segment previously, but it’s a first for me and I found it compelling (it’s only 7 mins long): https://youtu.be/DKcSNrGf4dE
His statement that biological organisms are – per se – not patentable fits with my (limited) understanding of IP law (and I’m happy to be enlightened by anyone more knowledgable in the area), but in principle:
– if natural organisisms are unpatentable AND
– the CDC did indeed receive a patent on the Coronovirus genome
..that’s potentially the smoking gun right there.
The URL at the end of the video still works, but the link from there to the full doco is dead (links to “chapters” of it seem to work though. If anyone has a link to a copy of the full video I’d be very grateful to see it.
And lastly a couple of good links from Lockdownsceptics.org.uk a couple of days back:
The Covid genome has a sequence at the all-imprtant furin cleavage site which does not occur in nature, and is commonly inserted as a genetic marker. Which seems to imply an engineered virus, but one engineered for research rather than biowarfare purposes (why advertise synthetic origin in a bioweapon when alternate sequences would work as effectively without advertising synthetic origin?)
Interesting psychology suggestion on why the “covid-together” tribe’s is inpenetrable to logic, stats or argument.
From an article in a leading NZ daily today: https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/coronavirus/125386042/nzs-covidfree-status-relies-on-trust-in-the-vaccine.
“The Pfizer vaccine, being used in New Zealand, has already been administered to millions around the world with no more serious side effects than the flu vaccine. It has been tracked and monitored in more detail than any vaccine in history.”
I wish I had the time and money to public challenge idiocy like that. The VAERS DB linked by Ilargi a few days back shows the annual flu vaccine death rate in the US to average around 200/year, but over 4000 deaths have been registered from Covid vaccinations already this year. Europe is similar.
Pfizer has been gifted relative headline anonymity because the other mRNA vaccines have had worse rates than Pfizer’s, but the death rate from the Pfizer vaccine certainly exceeds historical flu vaccination rates.
As to why the insurance companies are not adjusting rates to reflect Covid risks, the insurance companies are expendable and so are their employees. The upper management of insurance companies have golden parachutes regardless of whether the company or its business model goes belly up, they are ‘made men’.
Nah, I’m not onboard with that. Historically, insurance companies have been very savvy at accurately modelling risks, perhaps because the ongoing existence of their entire business (and many of the longest running have been in business over a century) depends on them not getting it totally wrong.
I recall a thread on TAE in the early days of Covid discussing remarks from a senior actuary at one of the big insurance companies who immediately pooh-poohed the Imperial College model, as his company had invested many millions trying unsuccessfully to model pandemics, and had admitted failure.. pandemics being simply too complex to accurately model (or more likely, small changes to variables make a large difference to model outputs and therefore the model’s predictive value was small).
More likely in my mind – there’s no excess death from Covid, therefore there’s no need to alter premiums (much).
Wait some time until the outcomes of Covid vaccination make themselves statistically felt, and you can guarantee life insurance premiums will alter in the same way they did for smokers, heavy drinkers, etc.
The NZ govt is also running well behind vaccination schedule, ostensibly because of late delivery of vaccine shipments from abroad.
I’ve begun wondering to what extent doubt is emerging within the government PTB, and whether they’ve begin kicking for touch.. hoping to delay things until a plausible reason for changing strategy/direction emerges.
I was actually thinking of dual-Nobel laureate, for making speeches about peacification but your candidate is worthy also!
Apropos the uni-opinion world, and for them’s that’s interested in NZ politics (Doc R, I’m think of you), here’s a great article posted yesterday in one of NZ’s main dailies: https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/opinion/125352433/this-government-promised-to-be-open-and-transparent-but-it-is-an-artfullycrafted-mirage
She notes the vast chasm between what Jacinda Ardern promised would be the “most transparent administration ever” (echoes of another glib charismatic frontman..?) and what has actually transpired – a remarkably opaque government that has massively multiplied the number of PR roles within all branches.
Thanks for taking the time to respond to my question.
Your speculation may will be right (I find it quite plausible), but difficult to prove.
In working to sway mainstream opinion, I think it’s better to stick to what can be concretely proved, ie that Fauci et al lied, were two-faced about they said publicly and privately, and most importantly were directly funding GoF research whilst pretending an engineered origin of Covid was impossible to consider.
Lastly, with Tiananmen Square in the news lately, and cited by someone in the comments, a reminder that the story that has entered mainstream consciousness is a mythologised version: https://archives.cjr.org/behind_the_news/the_myth_of_tiananmen.php
I loved the Solzhenitsyn today.
Can someone pls help me understand why the Chinese doc applying for a vaccine patent in Feb 2020 is supposedly so terrible?
The lab was doing gain-of-function research. The stated purpose of GoF research is to be able to develop remedial treatments in advance of an actual pandemic. In the course of that research they very likely made advances that could potentially be monetised following the outbreak of Covid, regardless of whether the lab was the source of the precise virus that we now know as Covid.
Now I personally think GoF research is reckless and stupid, but I also don’t see how the patent application is evidence of any kind of smoking gun.
Despite the thousands of words penned before and since, our host’s pithy phrase remains the most accurately succinct:
” Fauci is a wanker and a rodent”
@ WES – great story, and pleased to know you better 🙂
My anecdote de jour (in keeping with TAE’s economics focus)… the NZ Reserve Bank today released it’s auditor’s public report on the significant data breach which happened to the bank around last XMas.
I was contracting to the bank on a related project at that time, and have been holding my breath as to what the public record would say. So it’s a huge relief that no shade has been cast in this general direction, and that – although anodyne – the report is targeted pretty fairly.
Although from personal and direct experience I knew the facts to be true, it’s weird how much external judgements can create doubt and uncertainty, and it’s a relief to be done with them.
Once again, I credit the TAE community (amongst others, but probably primarily) in helping maintain calibration of “real” and “unreal” in the face of public noise.
The raw death numbers in the VAERS graph you led with are brilliant.
But the cumulative count part of the graph makes no sense at all – it should jump rapidly in 2021, but it continues at the same rate as previous years.
A corrected version of the graph would be even more compelling.
“It’s a hard rain is gonna blow”
Or fall, even.. my lyric-brain is failing.. unravelling rapidly, like a tapestry with some angry kittens..
The Phoenix vote audit re-starts tomorrow, in case anyone cares.
Damn straight I care.. having passed through angry (I hear you today, V Arnold) and jaded, I’m buying in popcorn on any prospect of telling revelations, wherever they may be (and the US election outcome was so transparently weird that landmines must lie buried in all directions)
I mean, think about it.. Covid has indeed been a “make out like a bandit” opportunity for TPTB, but there are now just so many fronts and lies in play in so many different theaters that the likelihood of maintaining all of the facades in perpetuity has become ludicrously unlikely.
The question is – how will the uber-wealthy attempt to play this out..? The extent of vaccine hesitancy (and let’s admit it, the published stats are going to be BS in the direction of over-claiming vaccination) is a good indicator of the extent that credulous narratives are losing their grip. Which is not to understate the grip and power they retain, but it’s flimsier with every month that passes.
The situation in Gaza is confronting more and more people with the dissonance between the official “Israel has a right to defend itself” and the viscerally felt (some tribes are not like the others..).
It’s a hard rain is gonna blow, as the 80 yo poet said way back.. but when? and how?
@ Herr Werner
I echo Madamski’s applause: “I’m pretty sure you win today’s internet. Bravo, sir. Well done.”
I agree with your point about Gates, FB etc being more idiotic than willfully evil, and the associated one that the doing of evil is widespread and unconscious.
But people need access to real information to make valid moral choices of any kind. Take away that raw data input and it becomes impossible to exercise moral choice.
The greatest evil that Gates, FB, Google and the MSM do is in sabotaging the moral compasses of the world at large with the shear volume of selective and misleading information they pump out. The evil they produce is directly proportional to the resources they throw at the process. As individuals they may be no more of less moral than you or I, but they’re undoubtedly responsible for more evil via their leverage.
“But, getting vaccinated with an mRNA jab cannot make you infectious in itself.”
Indeed, according to theory it cannot, and if the vaccines have been produced in fully sterile and functional conditions then scientifically they cannot. But underpinning that is the untested assumption that vaccine production has been conducted properly, and as various volumes of destroyed and/or spoiled batches have shown, that is definitely an assumption.
I don’t have any evidence that’s happened (or necessarily believe it has), just saying you can’t rule it out – it could be that some batch of vaccines are contaminated with Covid.
Re earlier discussion on Craig Murray’s comments, I don’t get how they’re really controversial. He believes (from his personal moral position, which clearly preferences collectivism over individualism) that people should “suck it up” and get vaccinated. I have no intention of getting vaccinated, but his statement of his personal beliefs is free speech in action. He’s honest enough to say that coercion by the state (even when it pulls in the direction of his personal beliefs) is unacceptable and should be resisted to the end. Bravo to that!