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A small bit of good news to report today. I had a meeting with two fully vaxxed professional colleagues. I expected, with trepidation, that “the vaccine” question might come up — and in fact it did. I was determined to stick to my guns, and I did. But instead of focusing on politics, I focused on science. Though my colleagues were initially flabbergasted that I had not received the vaccine yet, when I explained that I am pro-vaccine, and would be first in line to receive the right vaccine at the right time (first choice — lived attenuated vaccine (Covi-Vac); second choice — inactivated virus (Sinovac or Sinopharm); third choice protein subunit (Novovax); fourth choice adenoviral vector (AZ, J&J, Sputnik); fifth choice mRNA (Pfizer or Moderna)), their reaction was “Hmm. I wish that I had talked to you before I got vaccinated.”
I think this is the way forward. We need to undertand the science, and be better able to engage with the science than the charlatan politicians pretending to rely on the science. This is difficult, very difficult, but worth it. There is great harvest awaiting — people genuinely hungry for the truth, for understanding, not politics. Although we hesitate because we are not sure we fully understand the science, the people we seek to reach are in the a same boat. If you scratch the surface, there are huge numbers of people out there who are consciously aware that the official story does not add up, but who seek to engage and undertand on a scientific level, not an ideological or religious level. We need to reach them where they are, not where we wish they were. Even though we do not understand all the science and we are not experts in the field, I am convinced that this is the only way to reach many of them.
Isn’t the solution a more decentralized government? I am all in favor of the institution of government, but I prefer more at the state and local level, rather than the Leviathan that Washington has become.
Yet because of American history, anyone who suggests that the federal government should be weaker and the States should be stronger will be accused of being a Confederate KKK sympathizer — this is another Jedi mind trick of the elite. The last thing they want is for a meaningful choice that varies from state to state.
I watched the new Malone/vanden Bossche video last night. It is well worth the two hours.
A key to understanding van den Bossche’s argument is that nobody who gets infected has a pure single strain of the virus. This is critical, and this is something that I missed before. When we refer to the “Delta variant” this does not mean that 100% of the virus in the infected person is Delta. Rather, the initial innoculum that causes the infection will be a mixture of millions of viral particles. Some will be Delta. Some will be other strains. They are all competing against each other in the same person. The effect of the vaccine is that a higher percentage of the particles that replicate and get passed on from a vaccinated person will be the particles that can evade the vaccines. The vaccine has a concentrating effect. There will still be non-Delta virus replicating in a vaccinated person, but at a much lower level.
In contrast, viral replication in unvaccinated people does not favor one strain over another, and has a more diluting effect, which is a good thing on a population-wide basis, as it helps to counteract a single strain from becoming dominant.
His theory for why kids are starting to get sick now where they did not before: High viral pressure means that kids might be exposed once, and successfully clear the virus without developing disease, but with a lackluster immune response that produces only low level of antibodies. On second exposure, the presence of the low level antibodies from the first exposure might enhance the disease.
Malone clarified that ADE, strictly speaking, is a phenomenon where low levels of non-sterilizing antibodies might make it possible for the virus to take over macrophages — white blood cells that the virus ordinarily would not be able to attack. That does not seem to be what is happening here. However, there does seem to be some other enhancement mechanism that results in the higher viral loads in vaccinated people. This is not necessarily ADE because it does not involve macrophages. ADE is just one subcategory of enhancement.
Those were some of the key points I took away, but I should probably watch the video again with pencil in hand.
All this talk about bovine ivermectin brings back memories of the early stages of the pandemic. I recall that John Day posted one of the early small studies from China that indicated chloroquine phosphate might be effective. This was around March 2020 when bodies were piling up everywhere. The only thing I could find was chloroquine phosphate for the aquarium. The bottle has a warning in capital letters on the label “Not for human consumption.” Not long after that, a couple in Arizona died from chloroquine phosphate overdose. Fortunately I never had to take it, but I recall thinking to myself at the time “I’m not going to just sit here and die.” I still have the bottle, but I no longer keep it in the medicine cabinet.
By the way, today I received a delivery of nitazoxanide and dutasteride from our friends down in India (I already stockpiled enough Ivermectin to treat the extended family and half the neighborhood).
Although self-medication involves some degree of risk, I have no intention to sit at home and wait for my lips to turn blue.
Most of our discussion criticizing “the vaccines” has emphasized that, regardless of whether the delivery platform is m-RNA or adenovirus, they all program the body’s cells to produce the spike protein antigen. Part of the risk surrounding these vaccines is the unknown variable of how much spike protein the body generates, or where, or how long it takes the body to clear.
But the Chinese vaccines, Sinovac and Sinopharm, do not work that way. They both use inactivated virus. They do not rely on a mechanism that requires the body to produce spike protein. The problem with using inactivated virus is that the vaccines do not work as well. But the advantage of these vaccines is NOT having spike protein attacking your endothelial lining and other cells. If I had to take a vaccine, I would take one of these rather than Pfizer, Moderna, AZ or Janssen. But sadly, because of politics, this is not an option where I live.
The ideal vaccine would be a live-attenuated virus vaccine. These vaccines have a better response rate than the inactivated virus vaccines, and more long-lasting protection. But the only live attenuated virus vaccine in clinical development for Covid that I am aware of is the Codagenix vaccine called Covi-Vac, which completed a Phase I clinical trial of only 48 patients. I hope this works.
The last category is the protein subunit vaccine. These are different than the mRNA, DNA and Adenoviral vector vaccines because they do not program your body to make the spike protein. They still rely on the spike protein: They just inject it directly. I am trying to find more information about what what part of the spike protein they rely on, or whether they do anything to the spike protein to make it less toxic. It is hard to find meaningful information about these. Novovax would be the first. SK also had a product in clinical trials in Korea. All things being equal, if I had to take a vaccine, and I cannot get Sinovac or Sinopharm, I think I would prefer a subunit vaccine rather than Pfizer, Moderna, AZ or Janssen. An least then I would know how much spike protein is involved, and presumably there would be a lower risk of auto-immune disease. But it is hard to find meaningful information …
@chooch Why not just order from overseas like many of us here have already done?
@sumac.carol
Perhaps an important variable is timing. I read that Canada got a late start on its vaccination drive, with only 3% fully vaccinated as of beginning of May. Then Canada suddenly zoomed up near the top of the list. So it may be the case that you are still in the sweet spot of vaccine effectiveness. Once you get six months out from reaching 70% fully vaccinated, when vaccine effectiveness plummets (and ADE possibly kicks in), the numbers may reverse.
I do not think the situation is as dark as many are making it out to be. Rather, this is a combination of:
1. Incompetence
2. Centralized power
3. Propaganda
4. Regulatory capture
5. Social media echo chambers
6. Wishful thinking
7. Hubris
8. Law of unintended consequences
9. Debt servitude (intimidating people from speaking out)That al adds up to something dark and bleak, but I do not think that anone who knows better is trying to cull 90% of the world’s population. But I have been wrong before . . .
I am not sure any of this helps your argument that Sars-COV2 does not exist. In fact, it undermines the argument from the previous video. It seems to say that coronaviruses with spike proteins have existed, and have been known, for a long time, and that people have been trying to patent the sequences — it does not say that they do not exist. In fact, all corona viruses have a spike protein. The spike protein is the part of the virus that makes the “corona” — this has been known for a long time.
Whether products based on the gene sequences of these viruses are classified as vaccines, or therapies, or bioweapons, or whatever, and whether they qualify for patents, is an entirely different question.
Your line of reasoning seems to follow the contradictory “kitchen sink” reasoning of climate change deniers, who simultaneously argue, with a straight face, that (i) global warming is not happening at all, (ii) global warming is happening, but it is attributable to non-human factors, (iii) there is insufficient evidence to determine whether global warming is happening; and (iv) global warming is happening, but that is a good thing because it will offset global cooling expected from a decrease of solar activity.
I don’t think this guy knows what he is talking about. He is not a virologist. He admits that this is not his specialty. He complains that he cannot buy an isolated sample of SARS-COV2 virus for testing like he would test glyphosate. She asks hims if this is normal, if he could buy, for example, an isolated sample of measles virus, and he says he does not know.
The virus was sequenced by the Chinese in January 2020. I recall a Chris Martenson podcast sometime shortly after that where a lab in Europe took that sequence and built the entire virus from scratch, according to the published sequence.
This “never been isolated and purified” argument is not a valid criticism, and seems to be pushed by people without the right credentials.
@mister roboto
Exactly why I will be voting straight-ticket Republican in November 2022 for the first time in my life with no qualms whatsoever about doing so.
Why note vote for Vladimir Putin as a write in candidate instead?
“I do not support mandatory vaccinations.” -Vladimir Putin
https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/vladimir-putin-says-he-opposes-mandatory-covid-vaccinations-2476077
@ezlxa1949
Yes, but if you order it from overseas, will it clear customs in Australia?Anybody here at TAE have a link to a purified, isolated sample of the alleged SARS‑CoV‑2 “virus”???
I am not sure I understand the point of collecting a purified, isolated sample. What exactly is the point? We have scanning electron microscope images that show the virus as tiny compared to a human cell, and the human cells themselves are tiny. The virus particles are so small, I am not sure if there is a practical way to “isolate” and “purify” the samples. Purify and isolate them from what? But even if it were possible, who would want to do that and why? Why is it necessary if we can do a gene sequencing instead? We can do so many gene sequencings that we can even create the family tree, and identify where new variants pop up.
I think that there are plenty of things to question about the official narrative, but questioning the existence of the virus is not one of them.
@ John Day
My plan, if the medicines get to me is to give them away, and ask people to spend $60 gambling to get more sent to them, which they should give away in the same pay-it-forward anti-imperialist scheme.
As of this week, shipments are still getting through to the US (I arranged to send some to a friend who is struggling with long covid). I had a hiccup with email communications this time, with unanswered emails for more than a week, but that was immediately resolved with a phone call (yes, they answer the phone). I see that FLCCC recently started recommending nitazoxinide as an alternative if IVM in unavailable (or to be taken in addition to IVM if you can get both). Nitazoxinide is not commonly available in the US, but is available from our friends on the subcontinent. I have a feeling this might keep coming through even if the IVM is eventually blocked.
Some are now saying that “Delta” is actually Covid vaccine-caused illness. I don’t know if that’s true, and have no way to find out, but it wouldn’t surprise me.
Technically speaking, I don’t think that is true. The mutations can be mapped on the genome. We know which amino acids have been substituted, and at which spots. The Delta variant is a real thing. Having said that, there may be reasons why people who have received the vaccine might be more susceptible to disease from this particular variant.
Now this is just plain crazy. Some in Korea are now arguing that Korea should push to the front of the line to sign contracts for new expensive experimental treatments that are still in clinical trials. 950,000 won is about $800 per treatment — which is quite high for Korea. Meanwhile, not a peep in the local media about investigating repurposed drugs that cost only pennies per dose.
https://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/nation/2021/09/119_315334.html
I watched the McCullough interview again over the weekend. One thing that stood out was his passing comment that it seems like much of the world is in a trance. He commented that you can see it in the eyes of many doctors, where they seem to be vaguely aware that something is not quite right, but they fail to see things clearly. And it’s a worldwide phenomenon that also affects countries with politics very different from the US. But he sounded a note of optimism that eventually this will change. These are dark days right now, but the tide will turn.
To have conversations with people, I think the key is to keep asking them what they think. People love to share their own views. Ask more questions. The theme that I keep coming back to in my conversations is that there are too many things that I do not know, and the official story is always changing. Things that seemed so certain have turned out to be wrong. Here’s a short sampling:
We thought the vaccine stayed in the deltoid, then we learned that was wrong.
We thought that the spike protein was harmless, then we learned that was wrong.
We thought the body could clear the spike protein in 2 weeks, then we learned that was wrong.
We thought the vaccine would lead to herd immunity, then we learned that was wrong.
We thought break though infections were very rare, then we learned that was wrong.
We thought viral loads would be lower in the vaccinated, then we learned that was wrong.
We thought the vaccine would prevent severe disease, then we learned that was short lived.I expect that pattern to continue over the next 6 months. I hope to stay on the sidelines for the next 6 months, if I can. A lot of things the WHO, NIH, CDC and FDA think they know are going to turn out to be wrong.
@upstate. @v.arnold
Thanks for the McCullough video. I recommend that everyone drop whatever you are doing, invest an hour of your time, and really try to understand. Watch until the explanation is clear.He very politely told me: (1) there are no studies out of the NIH showing it to be effective, and (2) used in a prophylactic manner, it is very destructive to the liver. One or two doses, okay. Taking it for a week, or two, or longer is not good.
Liver damage is only the beginning. Two weeks after that you start to grow a mane, then your hands and feet start to harden until they turn to hooves, then you grow a tail, then your teeth grow longer, and finally you end up with an insatiable appetite for apples.
To the Australians:
Even before this pandemic began, your rulers had an authoritarian bent. I recall visting Sydney three years ago — my first trip to Australia. When I went to the airport for my return flight home, while going through airport security, I asked whether it was possible to opt for a “pat down” search in lieu of the airport body scanner. Everywhere I have ever been, this has always been an option upon request. When I asked this question (all I did was ask the question), I was asked to take a seat and wait. A minute later a supervisor came over and told me that pat down was not an option in Australia, and that if I asked the question one more time, I would be denied access to the airport and would have to come back the next day. Fine. I went through the body scanner, seeing that I had no choice. But that left an impression on me, and I thought as I left Australia that this was probably a place I did not want to return to. After that limited experience, the stories about the Covid response do not surprise me at all. Wonderful country except for the authoritarian rulers.
Great post worth saving. I recall Chris Martenson mentioning that EGCg is another OTC supplement that works as a zinc ionophore. He also mentioned the Quercetin as another option.
It’s on the Store and Donations page
What would you prefer? Paypal or Bitcoin? One perpetuates the status quo. One is a symbol of defiance to all things centralized. Should I switch over? I think your bitcoin address should be prominently displayed at the top of the main page!
I have never had a problem with paypal. But Raul, c’mon, get with the times. Get yourself a bitcoin address and everything is so much easier.
What a tool. 1000 words to try to justify a bullshit piece full of lies and suppositions by RS. As if the nuts and bolts of how they formulated the hit piece make one goddamn bit of difference. I’ve really never seen such a load of horsepuck.
I think it is worthwhile to watch David Fuller’s film “Ivermectin For and Against” — which was initially abnend by Youtube, and then reinstated:
He strikes me as a journalist who wants to get to the truth, but lacks a grasp of the science.
Having said that, I cannot defend the 1000 word rambling piece posted above, which was difficult to read and could not seem to get to the point.
@polder
@oxymoronI actually walked away with an entirely different impression. To me, this was the best we can expect for now. The realization of no herd immunity means no vaccine passports, no more lockdowns, no more child vaccinations. It means reopening. It means the establishment will need to become open to multiprong strategies. Including Vitamin D. Did you see that at the end? This is great news.
I’m coming under harsh institutional scrutiny for giving people real information about vaccine risks/benefits, and now for prescribing ivermectin based treatment.
This is very disturbing. If they fire you, I am happy to volunteer behind the scenes to support the lawsuit.
Proxalutamide is the next drug will will start hearing more about in the battle of Covid:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7899267/
Flávio Cadegiani is the most recent addition to the FLCCC. He summarized his findings on last week’s FLCCC webinar:
https://odysee.com/@FrontlineCovid19CriticalCareAlliance:c/FLCCC-WEBINAR-082521_FINAL_YouTube:7
If you’re upset, think how upset the double vaccinated are?
In my experience they are not upset at all, at least not so far. Rather, they almost all share the “just get a booster” mindset, with very few thinking about long term consequences. We’ll see what happens once we have more data on the safety, efficacy and efficacy duration of the third shot.
I have been careful in my conversations with people, avoiding debate, just asking a lot of questions. I find that people like to talk, and the more they talk, the more you can ascertain who they rely on for their sources of information. Just keep asking questions . . .
CDC just reported that overdoses of Ivermectin are rising.
Every year there are more than 50,000 emergency room visits from Tylenol overdose. If 50,000 people per year cannot read the simple instructions on the Tylenol bottle, I would not be surprised if a few people go overboard with a product that requires math to get the dosage right.
Today’s NC article on The Coming School Opening is a good sobering read (yes, I still recommend that site even though I have been banned from posting). Nice to see a left-leaning site and fawning commentariat finally coming around. Good comment from our VietnamVet down at the bottom.
The man who owns the liguor store around the corner told me a few minutes ago that I should have the “booster shot”.
I suppose I would have said “Make it a tequila.”
The tide will turn. This cannot go on forever.
So, tell me again- how did the vaccines cause the variants?
Vaccines do not cause the variants. The virus is constantly mutating on its own. It does not need a vaccine to do that. Every viral replication is an opportunity for a new variant to be created. What a non-sterilizing “leaky” vaccine does is increase the chances that vaccine-resistant variants become the dominant strain in the community. They work best against the original strain they were designed for. They beat alpha, but the virus has moved on. But you are correct that the vaccines did not cause the variants. Instead, they expedited evolution by killing off the alpha variant so that delta, gamma and lambda can thrive. And with the exceptionally high viral loads for the delta variant, we have a lot more viral replication and even greater potential for an even more resistant sub-variant.
It may have seemed ridiculous to those whose countries have a more lax approach, with perhaps predictable results. NZ has been lucky but it most certainly is a success story because of its approach.
Yes, NZ has been a success story, but what is the end game? I am in South Korea, which has also been a success story, but what is the end game? Are we supposed to live this like forever? Until we find a vaccine that does not leak? How many years do we wait for that?
In the beginning, the call was to flatten the curve, and to make sure our hospitals were not overrun. I was 100% on board with that. This virus was something new, something frightening (and rightfully so), and we needed time to study it and understand the mechanism of the disease. We have had a year and a half to study it. We have learned that it causes serious long-lasting disease in some people, and we are learning more every day. What next?
There has been a lot of optimism that if we can just wait for a vaccine, then we can go back to normal. But now it seems that optimism was misplaced. So where do we go now? Small businesses cannot hold out forever.
Today’s microscopic blood clots article seems suspect.
… what is happening in bodies is that the spike proteins in the vaccine become “part of the cell wall of your vascular endothelium. This means that these cells which line your blood vessels, which are supposed to be smooth so that your blood flows smoothly, now have these little spikey bits sticking out. … when the platelet comes through the capillary, it suddenly hits all these COVID spikes, and it becomes absolutely inevitable that blood clots will form to block that vessel.”
This makes no sense to me. The vaccines contain genetic material to prompt the body to produce spike protein, which the body recognizes as an antigen, prompting the immune response to produce antibodies. The antibodies bind to the spike protein so that they can be cleared.
The spike proteins do not and cannot become part of the cell wall of your vascular endothelium to create spikey bits sticking out. That’s just silly. Perhaps there are microscopic clots. Perhaps the d-dimer tests are pointing to a real problem. But the doctor’s explanation does not pass the smell test. Quack quack quack.
@absolute galore
FLCCC updated its recommendations on August 11. Now it is 0.2mg/kg twice a week for prophylaxis. Before it has been one a week or one every two weeks, but now it is twice a week in communities where the virus is active.
Early outpatient protocol for people who have become sick is 0.4mg/kg every day for the first five days. However, if treatment starts on or after day 5, or if the person has co-morbidities, use the higher dose of 0.6mg/kg.
I connected to the Zoom FLCCC weekly webinar today for the first time. For anyone interested, you can sign up on the FLCCC website.
FWIW Pierre Kory announced that he got Covid this week. So did his daughter. He said he had been taking Ivermectin weekly as a prophylactic, and he got sick on Day 7. He said he had a mild case, but the key is to be prepared in advance, and to start taking it in the higher dose of 0.4mg/kg at the first sign of symptoms.
