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  • in reply to: The “Safe” Vaccines #79466
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    Yes, it has become clear that the media, the mRNA vaccine campaign and the political economic system are a closed circuit.

    This is morbid. I admit it. It adds to the stress. I check daily to see if the numbers of deaths and hospitalizations have started to climb or not due to the Delta Variant. Across the all of the USA, these numbers would be hard to fake; too many people and systems. Being unvaccinated, I am dependent that the few people in suburbia who come close are not contagious. My extended future depends on the virus mutating to a nonlethal variant or that the vaccines work. There is no alternative. The public health system in the USA is dysfunctional; intentionally, so there is no replacement to the for-profit system.

    If I am forced, at some time, to go to the dentist or doctors, it is a roll of the dice. The risks from the mRNA vaccines are unknown but real. The numbers in the VAERS chart above need to be divided by the total number vaccinated and multiplied by the number of adverse reactions unreported which is an unknown guess. On the other hand, roughly I have a 10% chance of death and likely side effects if I survive unvaccinated if I catch COVID-19 from another person shedding the virus while parking, walking, taking the elevators, and sitting in the waiting room. Not Sophie’s Choice; but still disconcerting.

    My, sort of crazy, rational is that as long as I can control my contacts I don’t need to be vaccinated. If I can’t, I do. But then I will have all sorts of other big problems.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle July 5 2021 #78970
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    Initially relying solely on mRNA Gene Therapy to control the Coronavirus Pandemic was the greatest experiment conducted on humans perhaps ever; or, at least since the atmospheric tests of nuclear bombs. Posts above, indicate that the age of experimentation is not over. The 64% transmission rate of coronavirus in mRNA injected people in highly vaccinated Israel and the end of masking and social distancing in the USA and now in the UK will test to see if a new variant infection spike will strike this winter or will incredible luck win out. Together with the North American Western Heat Dome and the already started regional wildfire season, a continuing pandemic will test if western civilization can survive climate change, an economic depression, and a chronically sick, increasing unsheltered population with no working national public health or welfare systems.

    A new 30% minority, the unvaccinated, is being generated for Identity Politics to blame for the ongoing loss of life and wealth not the real culprits.

    in reply to: The Great Big Delta Scare #78898
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    Nothing is done in isolation. The USA is being bombarded with a Private/Government PsyOps campaign. From its start to today, the PR for the mRNA gene therapy jabs is expertly written; starting with use of the term “vaccine”, to hide their true nature and to ignore the conscious decision to overrule the need for precautionary testing and review before approval put in place by law and regulations after the thalidomide tragedy.

    More than half of all Americas have been jabbed. Now the intent is to convince by any means possible (lying, blaming, and threats) to get the leftover unvaccinated injected. This winter another lockdown will tell if the Delta Variant scare is real or not. Except one more will flatten the US economy.

    This is truly dumbfounding. It would not have happened if the USA had a functional national public health system. This is far beyond the loss of trust. This is a foundational issue about the current economic political system and how it works. A reasonable interpretation is that the West is run by a rich cult that believes that there is no such thing as society. Mammon is God. All that matters is money. Certainly not the lives of the riff-raff. Injecting every American will make billions of dollars for the pharmaceutical corporations not to mention the riches gathered from jabbing the rest of the world. Yet, for now, the enduring consequences of this experiment are unknown.

    But greed can’t be the whole story. This July 4th is a perfect reflection of the Fog of War. The USA is retreating out of Afghanistan. This is the fall of Saigon, all over again; a trauma that killed the draft and triggered the Reagan Revolution that ended the New Deal. Joe Biden and Vladimir Putin may have agreed to end NATO’s Ukraine aggressions. This could finally signal that Barrack Obama’s pivot to China is underway. Except any war there would cut off the flow of goods from Asia which would flatline the West’s economy already depressed by the Pandemic. Also, last week the UK’s HMS Defender almost got in a firefight with Russia in the Black Sea. Ending the Great Game may be a bridge too far for certain Overlords.

    Climate Change goes unaddressed. Last week’s early blowup of wildfires in the West cut Canadian Pacific, Canadian National and Union Pacific rail lines. Transport links can’t cope with the PNW/BC heat dome and regional wildfires. This Independence Day reminds me of the quip about the end of WWII and Joseph Goebbels’ Propaganda broadcasts. The Reich’s glorious victories kept coming closer to Berlin.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle July 3 2021 #78840
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    The problem in authoritarian regimes is that underlings have to believe the propaganda to survive. The problem with censorship is that the rulers don’t know the truth. Being detached from reality, the overlords start going off surveilling, silencing, imprisoning and then eliminating others. This never ends well.

    The Western Empire isn’t what it says it is. It isn’t democratic. It isn’t even an Empire anymore. It is corporate criminal mob looting resources, wealth and labor while it can.

    There is transmission of coronavirus from the vaccinated to the unvaccinated. A higher percentage of vaccinated die from the Delta variant than the unvaccinated. CDC ended social distancing and masking in the USA. Clearly the sole goal of the public/private partnership is to inject as many as possible, forever, with profit making mRNA jabs. Future consequences are simply unknown due to the lack of data but the side effects from the mRNA jabs are known knowns.

    Next winter will likely be crucial. The first unknown is will the new variant kill so few that a new lockdown is not needed. A second unknown is will the CIA and Washington Post trigger Watergate II to remove Joe Biden for daring to withdraw from Afghanistan throwing the USA into a Constitutional crisis. Finally will unvaccinated Deplorables are blamed for the chaos? Or will luck and money win out? Then the coronavirus pandemic will turn out to be into just another profit-making Opioid Crisis that happened to kill 15 times more Americans. Perhaps a few lawyers will be richer years from now after all the lawsuits are settled.

    All the nations of the Americas eventually will become Brazil clones; mostly poor and ill in shanty towns, the overseers in gated communities, and a few very rich living in guarded island/mountain, silo attached, mansions. Restoration of the rule of law, democracy, fraternity and equality would avoid this. China will be the main world power with Europe second if they can keep the peace and the earth doesn’t overheat.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle July 1 2021 #78740
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    Bill7

    Yes, I believe that there still is a coronavirus pandemic ongoing among the elderly and obese and for those with long-haul COVID. COVID-19 did overrun hospitals last year from New York to California triggering the rush to get rich with gene therapy jabs. Life expectancy in the USA for the last two years declined; 1.4 years for Whites up to 3.9 years for Hispanics.

    Today there are good arguments that this is no longer the case. The excess deaths in Europe and the USA are below historic averages. CDC says this is due bad reporting which may be the case, since the US mail service is still disrupted and I have not got my income tax refund yet. But coronavirus is not eradicated in the USA. My county is low risk right now. 50% of adults vaccinated and one death last week. But it had the highest number of deaths in Maryland; 1,597 . The elderly, overweight and unvaccinated are still at risk. Not to mention the bills if hospitalized. I maybe paranoid but I am still here. At this point, being cautious and avoiding the public, the risk of vaccination could outweigh the risk of not getting jabbed. It is fairly clear for young males the risks of a second mRNA jab outweigh the benefits. Yet only a label warning was added.

    Perhaps, the virus will follow the pattern in the past of becoming more contagious and less deadly. Hopefully this winter this comes true and the hospitals are not overrun once again. I wish the USA had a competent government that could provide a working public health system that would care for its citizens and eradicate the virus so the worry would vanish.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle July 1 2021 #78733
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    A year and half into the coronavirus pandemic, the very foundation of the West’s response that “mRNA vaccines are safe and effective” is false. They are not vaccines but gene therapy.

    Human beings are crash test guinea pigs with inadequate follow-up and compensation for the side-effects from the mRNA emergency use. To date, blood clotting with low platelet counts in young females and myocarditis in adolescent/young males are associated with mRNA jabs. Jabs continue in the USA with a label warning.

    There are increases in the COVID-19 reproductive rate in highly vaccinated nations in particular Israel.
    https://tinyurl.com/2p7t4xfb

    The asymptomatic vaccinated people may be passing the virus to the leftover unvaccinated. But this is a known unknown since there is no cheap accurate test to detect virus shedding individuals or surveillance and identification of coronavirus virus in the Western population. Federal masking and social distancing requirements were ended. There is no plan B. This is not science.

    In the Americas we have an acute case that the propaganda that the rulers believe to be true is in fact not reality. In the 20th century, the 1000-year Reich and the Soviet Union collapsed directly because to this.

    The Western Empire is withdrawing from Afghanistan too and has an economic disaster underway worse than the effects of Chernobyl. Politico is pointing out Kamala Harris is an unsuitable replacement for Joe Biden; except there is no Gerald Ford ready on the sidelines.

    There is one final frenzy to grasp the last shinning glimmer of wealth.

    When the climate changes, Siberia and North America will become choked in hot toxic wildfire smoke and more of Miami’s seaside condos will collapsed. Everyone will be on their own trying to escape.

    My alternative is to restore the US Constitution and government by and for the people, end inequality, and jail the criminals who got us into this. Enron’s Jeff Skilling in 2006 was the last CEO imprisoned for their crimes.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle June 30 2021 #78656
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    If you go through family photos of before Bill Clinton and the triumph of the plutocracy, all the kids are thin. I simply do not remember any obese kids in high school. Today the obese are a clear sign of a sick society. They are the victims. The obese and elders are the Americans at risk from coronavirus. If there was a functional public health system, they could have been protected from exposure to the virus by universal testing, contact tracing and safe/paid isolation. The virus was eradicated by nations with working public health systems. This could have been done globally and would have prevented the rise of new variants. But no, billions of dollars in mRNA jab profits going a few oligarchs is too lucrative.

    The coronavirus pandemic is a clear indication that unless democracy and good government are restored, extreme climate events like the heat dome over PNW/BC will not be mitigated. Born and raised in Seattle, I simply cannot believe it reached 108°F at Sea/Tac Monday. The infrastructure wasn’t built for this. The Douglas Fir forest environment cannot survive if this continues. Welcome regional wildfires.

    But nothing will be done. “Buy an air conditioner.” “Google ‘tape a box air fan with MERV-13 filters’ to clean indoor air.”

    in reply to: Debt Rattle June 29 2021 #78586
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    The Pandemic is real. It is deadly to old farts. Western Governments could care less. No PPE were stockpiled nor safe working conditions imposed on nursing homes or meat packing plants. No borders were sealed tight to air travel. Asymptomatic aerosol transmission is still denied by the “experts”. The neoliberal’s death star is greed. “It is the Benjamins, honey”. The hundreds of millions of 100 dollar jabs have created several new pharmaceutical billionaires,

    In New Zealand, Australia & Singapore the public health systems leftover from SARS #1 outbreak worked and eradicated coronavirus. But the Indian government’s failure gave rise to the delta variant. With variant outbreaks at younger ages, all three nations are falling for the mRNA vaccine hype.

    The USA is opening up its public service economy, ignoring the delta variant spikes in highly vaccinated Israel and UK or that the number of cases is starting to rise again. If for-profit hospitals are flooded again next winter, the new lockdown will be blamed on the unvaccinated not mRNA vaccine failure.

    If there are any historians left after the collapse of a nuclear armed hegemon, the real culprits will be identified; the warring global and national oligarch clans who together destroyed democracy in order to get wealthier.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle June 26 2021 #78355
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    Stephanie Seneff’s “Worse Than the Disease? Reviewing Some Possible Unintended Consequences of the mRNA Vaccines Against COVID-19” is frightening. It has been half a century since I had a genetics course and most of this is new to me but I did not see any ideological red flags. This puts in one place all the dribbles and drabs that snuck through the corporate state PsyOps campaign on the intertubes. I simply cannot grasp how widespread use of mRNA Gene Therapy without any systematic follow-up was approved across the world. One thing for sure it involves money and is way beyond a conspiracy theory. It must include the human high caste’s engrained disdain of deplorable no-accounts.

    Doc Robinson’s Effective Reproduction Rate (R) graph with the USA less than 1 is good news but the Delta Spikes in highly vaccinated Israel and the UK (80% have one shot) indicate that solely relying on the mRNA vaccines to control the pandemic is a fallacy. A disastrous delta spike, flooding hospitals with patients again, and another lockdown appears to be approaching. With no Plan B, all one can do in the West is lower one’s possible exposure, build one’s immune system and pray that God is Rochelle P. Walensky’s, Anthony Fauci’s & Joe Biden’s copilot, Perhaps, this time, the USA will be a lucky country like Australia. But I wouldn’t bet on it.

    in reply to: The Risks to the Fully Vaccinated #78227
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    The US federal coronavirus risk estimations are all skewed to make money for pharmaceutical companies not to control the pandemic. Doc Robinson’s link above and the earlier #78124 link to a study from Israel indicate transmission of coronavirus variants occurs in the fully vaccinated. The unvaccinated definitely are at risk if they come within breathing distance of a shedding carrier, and the vaccinated too. But since these cases are no longer required to be recorded, this is another known unknown. A fourth variant spike appears to be almost certain next winter in the USA since there has been a conscious decision to return to normal, end masking and social distancing, and ignore the risks. There is no plan B. The failed public health system has not been rebuilt. There is only more fear propaganda blaming the unvaccinated.

    The elephant in the room is that the proven side effects of the gene therapy vaccines are identical to having COVID for both encapsulated mRNA and gene modified adenovirus jabs. J & J vaccine and AstraZebeca cause blood clotting with low platelet count in young women. J & J use was continued in the USA with a label warning. Similarly, Pfizer and Moderna mRNA jabs cause myocarditis in adolescent boys and a label warning was added.

    The only thing that possibly be causing this is the artificial spike protein assembled within human cells by gene therapy. The Establishment simply do not care that a certain percentage of adolescent boys and young women will get uncurable long term illnesses; if they survive.

    If there was a functional public health system, if off-patent treatments were allowed, and if the health of Americans is improved, there would be no need for a lockdown next winter in response to a new overflow of coronavirus variant patients into for-profit hospitals.

    In the last two years the life expectancy of Whites in the USA has declined 1.4 years, Blacks 3.25 years, and Hispanics 3.9 years. The USA is on the brink of splintering apart due to greed, corruption and incompetence.

    in reply to: Let’s Save Some More Lives #78023
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    No weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, the Benghazi rat line of weapons to the Islamic State, billion dollar cookies handed out to neo-Nazis in the Euromaidan Coup, the Great Recession, unproven gene therapy injected into half of all Americans, known COVID unpatenable treatments ignored, and 617,864 Americans dead.

    F. Scott Fitzgerald explains it. “I couldn’t forgive [Tom] or like him, but I saw that what he had done was, to him, entirely justified. It was all very careless and confused. They were careless people, Tom and Daisy—they smashed up things and creatures and then retreated back into their money or their vast carelessness, or whatever it was that kept them together, and let other people clean up the mess they had made.”

    There is an alternative. Nations with functional governments and Public Health Systems; China, South Korea, Singapore, Taiwan, Australia, New Zealand can pull through. Unless the Constitution and government by and for the people is restored, billionaire profiteers jailed; the USA’s fate is to become a northern Brazil; mercenary guarded gated communities surrounded by poor sick favelas. That is, if mankind survives the coming possible extinction events, nuclear war and climate change.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle June 18 2021 #77628
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    Brett Weinstein’s “How to save the world in three easy ways” (the start is clipped above) is well worth the three hours and putting up with the loud serial entrepreneur and the too quiet scientist. Censorship and ostracization are real. Facebook has taken the video down. But linked podcasts can be googled. This video is too close to the truth. The discussion of science in the coronavirus pandemic is banned. Unpatentable treatments ignored. The question is by who? Perhaps, a dark force of Imperialists guided by group-think, money and hubris are the ones who have cost the West trillions of dollars in lost economic spending, grief and millions dead to generate a few more pharmaceutical billionaires.

    Clearly, the statement that mRNA vaccines are safe and effective is a lie. The real problem is that the risks are unknown. To earn a living, travel, receive acute medical or dental treatment, relief from long-COVID symptoms; vaccination may be worth the risks; especially if otherwise healthy and past the age of reproduction. Cancer is an unknown risk down the road. But the PR marketing is that there is absolutely no risk. But, indeed, you have no idea of how many empty chambers there are when you play jab Russian Roulette. It is criminal that there is no strenuous surveillance of the outcomes of the mRNA jabs nor a determination how effective the vaccines are in preventing transmission. The failure of the public health system is a deadly debacle

    The West is incapable of keeping its people healthy. Extracting wealth for the 1% from everyone else is the game being played. There is no alternative.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle June 13 2021 #77268
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    The times are swirling downward. I had to cancel my Washington Post subscription. This is my last month after four decades. I just could not read Washington Propaganda on the Potomac anymore without my emotions erupting. Today on the front page top center “Families of the late-stage victims note a cruel juxtaposition as the US death toll inches to 600,000” above a picture of Amanda De Cora visiting the grave of her mother. A cruel play on “All Quiet on the Western Front” or “How do you ask a man to be the last man to die for a mistake?”

    The Elite cannot know that the mRNA “vaccines” will safely control the coronavirus pandemic, the scientific data to prove this has not been generated yet. The reopening, the fake return to normal, is based on us CDC models that the virus will be gone in the USA by November 2021. If the vaccines fail, if the deaths and suffering become too great to ignore, if lockdowns are re-initiated next winter to keep the for-profit hospitals functioning, if new variants keep arising; literally, the lights will go out all over Europe, South Asia, and the Americas. “We shall not see them lit again in our life-time”.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle June 11 2021 #77164
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    “Irreconcilable differences” = 614,738 Americans who died in the coronavirus pandemic.

    Granted the majority were unproductive old farts that the nursing home industry and government are unwilling to spend the big bucks to save; likewise, the obese, the ill, essential workers, and multi-generational households. Billionaires made out like bandits.

    Yes, Donald Trump was denied a second term which would likely have torn America apart by now. But instead, Billionaire #1 gets to rocket into space next month.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle June 11 2021 #77162
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    When the system is geared to exploit the people and the planet to enrich the 1%; it is inherently inequal and unstable. Divide and rule Empires all ultimately fail. The Western one is falling. Nobody wants to face reality. It is too unpleasant.

    The US CDC models say the virus will be gone by November 2021. This is the goal of the public/private PR Campaign. Prayers too may help to make this come true. A new coronavirus spike and lockdown this winter and everything spins out of control. Pandemic shortages and inflation already are becoming too obvious to ignore.

    in reply to: The Ethics of Child Vaccinations #77025
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    From the return of the Princess Cruise possibly infected passengers in a plastic screened isolation section on an airplane that has continuous air re-circulation, no PPE, and the transmission of the virus from the air base into the community; it is clear that the US government’s response to coronavirus pandemic has been a giant SNAFU. Still is. The Biden/Harris Administration has not made one bit of difference.

    Today, it is literally everyone for themselves. The experts due to hubris, group-think and money are solely depending on for-profit mRNA “vaccines” to control coronavirus in Europe, South Asia, and the Americas. Unpatentable treatments are deep-sixed. Public health (masking and social distancing) measures were ended by the CDC.

    As part of the fear messaging, PR white coats say that the coronavirus is endemic, everyone will be exposed. Get jabbed. Kids too. However, if the mRNA silver bullet fails, there is no Plan B if a variant spike breaks out this winter. There are no universal cheap accurate tests. 50 State contact tracking and isolation of the infected is inadequate. There is no way to know if the breakout coronavirus infections in the vaccinated will infect the unvaccinated. Or, if those with waning immunity who were injected first at the beginning of 2021, will also be infected. There is no attempt to tell who has immunity from a previous coronavirus infection and doesn’t need a gene therapy jab this year. No assuring that meat packing plants and nursing homes are safe to occupy. No arrests for manslaughter.

    The only way to explain this is the dismantling of democracy, the end of the rule of law, and the triumph of greed.

    in reply to: Let’s Save Some Lives #76783
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    For years the neo-liberal dollar capitalist system was defined down to “There Is No Alternative” (TINA). This is the implementation of “1984” in real time. However, TINA fails as soon as Russia/China/Iran axis escapes the Swift Payment System.

    Likewise, there is an alternative for mRNA gene therapy. It is old fashion public health measures: universal testing, contact tracing, isolation, masking, social distancing and personal hygiene. Next winter, the western system will collapse if the vaccine silver bullet fails and if a coronavirus variant spike forces another lockdown. But, here too, there are alternatives: non-patentable treatments, national public health measures, and functional governments working for the public good.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle June 5 2021 #76690
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    If replicate studies show toxic levels of artificial spike protein coded by the injected mRNA are detected in blood and ‘then accumulates in organs and tissues including the spleen, bone marrow, the liver, adrenal glands and in “quite high concentrations” in the ovaries’; the neoliberal West’s sole “vaccine” response to the coronavirus pandemic is as great a catastrophe as the Soviet’s Chernobyl. Except the oligarchs will try to keep this hidden as long as possible. Today there is no reactor melting down and spewing radioactivity.

    This information is only on the internet. Note: The Saker and Colonel Lang moved their blogs to Iceland.

    What is bizarre is that China released the genetic code on the new coronavirus on January 11, 2020 before their successful lockdown of Wuhan started on January 23, 2020. People in high places, including Dr. Anthony Fauci, knew things and said nothing or lied. Yes, coronavirus started out as a plague of the elderly. But the nursing home industry refused to spend money on patient and worker safety. Western governments refused to shut their borders or control the outbreaks. The use of unpatentable treatments was prevented. All due to the opportunity to increase pharmaceutical profits. Six hundred thousand Americans died because of that.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle June 1 2021 #76420
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    I am the camp that Coronavirus Pandemic is real. So many money-making hospital beds were swamped that nation states were forced to act. Except, they could not in the West. Governments had been dismantled; democracy kaput. Industry across the board has been consolidated, deregulated (fines are the cost of business) and dysfunctional. PR (marketing) became 100% propaganda. “Safe and effective vaccines”. When profits matter more than lives (PG&E burning down Paradise CA), everyone is on the own.

    Hacks are shutting down gasoline pipelines and meat packing plants. Security costs money. With the next winter’s fourth coronavirus spike, no meat or gasoline, a Texas Freeze 2022 sequel will engulf America. Unvaccinated Russian Scapegoats will be blamed for the chaos and the disunity of the United States. Not the real cause, the global plutocracy’s divide and conquer reign.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle May 30 2021 #76330
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    It is highly ironic that the West is unsure to declare sars-cov-2 virus as natural or manmade.

    The Moderna and Pfizer “vaccines” are lipid encased human engineered mRNA and the J & J, AstraZeneca and Sputnik V “vaccines” are human designed DNA genes inserted into an incompetent adenovirus that takes over human cells to produce mRNA that directs the assembly of spike protein to induce immunity.

    Corporate media completely ignores that all regulatory approved coronavirus vaccines are manmade substances that direct human cells to assemble an artificial spike protein.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle May 29 2021 #76271
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    The West’s coronavirus response has been a debacle since January 2020. In the first invasion in Washington State, CDC’s test did not work and the State was told to stop testing. 18 months later and 609,000 Americans dead; the response is still incompetent and evil.

    The first public health priority is a cheap, fast, accurate test to tell if a person is infectious and if they need to be safely quarantined. Without universal testing, the degree and progress of the pandemic is unknown. Contract tracing doesn’t work.

    With universal testing, those who are already immune would not have to risk the mRNA gene jab. Instead of the vaccines being targeted to eliminate coronavirus in a public health campaign, money making booster jabs will be needed for those who can afford them and coronavirus will be endemic in the lowlife population of Europe, South Asia and the Americas.

    Vietnam is reporting that is fighting a highly infectious combined UK and Indian mutant variant.

    The basic problem is the money is all that matters in the West. Just as mercenaries never win national wars, for-profit healthcare cannot defeat a pandemic. The plutocracy gets rich on the suffering of others; until it falls.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle May 27 2021 #76116
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    Humans have to process information through an imprinted template that was selected by reproductive success in tribes. With development of agriculture in the last 10,000 years, humans developed basically unfair hierarchical warring States, especially in Europe. The Enlightenment and the American Constitution tried to mitigate the oligarchy but since the fall of the Soviet Union, the West has retreated back into its European past.

    The only thing that matters now is money, not life, liberty or happiness of the people. The Establishment couldn’t be bothered to explain how mRNA vaccines work and document the risk verses benefits for an informed consent. They would never approve of a functional government public health system to combat coronavirus like China, Australia or New Zealand. It would hamper their exploitation and power.

    Today’s comments are PR (propaganda) running wild on all sides. Russia is now blamed for anti-vaxxers. If you must be in public to survive, the mRNA vaccines, at worse, will give you years of life that the elderly, obese and ill would not have if infected with coronavirus because of the failure of the US public health system and the corrupt profit-seeking nursing homes and healthcare system.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle May 20 2021 #75650
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    V.A.

    From Sputnik V Wikipedia:
    “Gam-COVID-Vac is a viral two-vector vaccine based on two human adenoviruses – a common cold virus – containing the gene that encodes the full-length spike protein (S) of SARS-CoV-2 to stimulate an immune response.

    From COVID-19 vaccine Wikipedia:
    “As of April 2021, 16 vaccines are authorized by at least one national regulatory authority for public use: two RNA vaccines (Pfizer–BioNTech and Moderna), seven conventional inactivated vaccines (BBIBP-CorV, CoronaVac, Covaxin, WIBP-CorV, CoviVac, Minhai-Kangtai and QazVac), five viral vector vaccines (Sputnik Light, Sputnik V, Oxford–AstraZeneca, Convidecia, and Johnson & Johnson), and two protein subunit vaccines (EpiVacCorona and RBD-Dimer)”

    I feel the misdirection is intentional part of marketing jabs. The Pfizer and Moderna vaccines are human modified coronavirus spike mRNA encapsulated in lipids to get inside the cells and direct assembly of the spike protein. This is one step less invasive than the DNA gene viral vector vaccines which coopt two cellular process. The human designed gene in the virus takes over the coding of messenger RNA in the cell nucleus and the modified mRNA then directs the spike protein assembly in the ribosomes instead of more viruses.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle May 20 2021 #75638
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    I always thought that I was well informed nerd. Not an ass-kissing people person. After the loss of the Vietnam War, there would be no more US colonial wars. The Iraq Invasion shattered that illusion.

    The COVID Pandemic debacle and the Vaccine Sell made clear that corporate news and private/public marketing are propaganda with little relationship to science or reality.

    Only after the same rare blood clotting reaction occurred in young women with the J & J and AstraZeneca treatments did I realized clearly that they both are literally gene therapies not vaccines. A man-made double strand DNA gene is inserted into a replication incompetent adenovirus that takes over the cell’s nucleus and codes the mRNA that goes into the cell to direct the ribosome to make the coronavirus spike protein which then sticks out of the cell’s surface when the cell breaks down triggering the immune system. The marketing is so through and repetitive I could not add 1 + 1.

    For example, a week ago, the Washington Post Coronavirus Newsletter answered an e-mailed question asking if the coronavirus vaccines change the nucleus. They replied no the mRNA vaccines do not enter the nucleus; completely ignoring the Adenovirus “vaccines” (J & J, AstraZeneca and Sputnik V) that must enter the nucleus to work.

    I read TAE, NC, Ian Welsh and Zero Hedge every day. If I was bamboozled, I have to believe all of my fellow neo-Serfs are too. Identity politics has so divided Americans into two ethnic/political silos, that the Overlords can rule as they wish.

    in reply to: Where Did The Science Go? #75331
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    The West’s suffering is due to for-profit education, healthcare and war. To pass through the revolving doors to a McMansion in the Hamptons; they believe. They live in an impenetrable bubble. Wealth shows their value. Lowlife others are worthless. They got a Harvard education and punched all the right tickets.

    In order to allow Joe Biden and Kamala Harris walk off the stage maskless into the White House; CDC upper management decided based on models that there will be no new coronavirus cases in the USA on October 1, 2021. They believe it.

    Coronavirus is endemic and number of new cases today is a little higher than the first peak that shut down New York State. mRNA vaccines lower transmission but do not eliminate it. Eight fully vaccinated New York Yankees tested at work caught COVID.

    Dr. Eric Feigl-Ding in a tweet after calculating various R0 contagiousness values indicated that when combined together, vaccines + masks + mitigation can hold back a surge even for variants but dropping all masks/mitigation does not. The US government is betting there will not be a surge next winter despite the science.

    A constant problem since the Wuhan pandemic became public in January 2020 is magical thinking in the West. It comes with the ruling ideology. They will never undertake a national public health campaign needed to eliminate the virus. There is too much money to be made with patentable gene therapies and an endemic illness.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle May 14 2021 #75286
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    V.A.

    I am not a Russian expert and I never have been to Europe, Africa or South America. Russia is #7 on the list of nations for coronavirus deaths. I attribute this to the infestation of neoliberalism introduced by Boris Yeltsin and the Harvard Boys. Vladimir Putin has reined in the oligarchs to a degree but not completely.

    Democracy has two stellar advantages 1) the peaceful transfer of power and 2) consent of the governed. Since January 6th the USA has lost both. Russia is in a hard place between Europe and China. The corporate western empire is pursuing a regime change campaign against the Kremlin. A peaceful transfer of power would be a triumph for the Russian people.

    I visited Thailand over a half a century ago; Hat Yai, Bangkok and Chiang Mai. Between Burma and Vietnam with China not far away and Malaysia to the South, it is on the fault line in the clash of civilizations. Never being a colony indicates that the Thais know this. Hopefully they will stay united and the military doesn’t usurp the kingdom.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle May 14 2021 #75284
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    I served in a war zone for a year. Welcoming chaos is crazy. It naturally draws psychopaths, adrenaline junkies and crooks to the periphery to score some loot.

    The USA is on the cusp. Representative Ocasio-Cortez calling Representative Greene “deeply unwell” is signal. So is January 6th, the DarkSide Hack, 737 Max, PG&E wildfires, the Texas Freeze, and the auto assembly shutdown due to computer chip shortage.

    The disdain of the globalist top 10% for lower class Americans is shown by the US federal government’s ending of masking and social distancing for more than half of all Americans who are unvaccinated in the middle of a pandemic. Masks mostly protect one from getting droplets sprayed on them by super-spreaders. Now no one will wear a mask in public for fear of the jeers and violence. With the virus endemic in the USA and unhindered air transportation around the world; Indian, European and American variants will spread worldwide. A winter spike will rip the USA apart.

    China, Vietnam, South Korea, Singapore, Thailand, Iceland, Australia and New Zealand, isolated from the rest of the world, will try to keep human civilization going in a New Dark Age.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle May 11 2021 #75013
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    Reality is becoming so unsettling that it is dismissed as people retreat into their ethnic silos.

    A nihilist government ignores cures to sell repeat treatments — injecting over half of the US population with experimental mRNA gene treatments. A private public partnership sells the vaccines as safe and effective even though supporting data is incomplete and blood clotting risks have been identified. With a goal of 70% by July 4th the injections are intended to reopen the economy. Adverse effects are being simply ignored.

    The vaccines do cut the severity of the infections and lower transmission. But breakthrough infections in the fully vaccinated can transmit new variants asymptomatically.

    This summer and fall with the decline in numbers of cases it is possible to eradicate the virus with strict public health measures, but the US establishment simply doesn’t bother. They are getting richer. They do not see the plague as an existential threat. Yet their amoral pathological greed to make more money risks a fourth coronavirus wave this winter and a possible societal collapse.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle May 8 2021 #74837
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    The PBS NewsHour also had a segment on “The Premonition”:
    https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/the-ignored-characters-of-the-pandemic-and-why-their-premonitions-were-pushed-aside

    This broadcast so brought back flashbacks to 2002-2003 and Scott Ritter, Colonel Pat Lang and Juan Cole. The Private/Public Campaign to invade Iraq. They were all blackballed for telling the truth. To this day; the false belief persists in America that Saddam Hussein’s Iraq had weapons of mass destruction and were allies with Al Qaeda.

    The exact same thing is occurring today with selling of the mRNA jabs. The HuffPost goes after Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wisc.) for spreading misinformation about the VAERS system and the rise in the number of deaths to around 3000 from vaccinations by repeating that the CDC says “COVID-19 vaccines are safe and effective.”

    Be prepared, when gene therapy fails, scapegoats will be needed.

    It is clear that Donald Trump was singularly incapable of rising to the occasion but European and American democracies were already bought and flushed down the drain — incapable of controlling the pandemic unlike Australia and New Zealand who are continuing to eliminate the virus.

    It still is a tragedy that the CDC does not have quick safe cheap accurate coronavirus tests. The US federal/state governments are simply incapable of identifying and tracking the transmission of the virus and safely quarantining community outbreaks. Unless working national public health systems are built to fight pestilence and supersede the for-profit healthcare system; plagues will be endemic across the world wherever there are failed governments and rich oligarchs.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle May 3 2021 #74412
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    Liz Cheney talks about the “Big Lie” (a rigged election), George W Bush wrote “the GOP metastasized into its terminal form” and Cindy McCain voted for Joe Biden. The US corporate political duopoly fell due to January 6th insurrection and the coronavirus pandemic. There is now a single global, Davos oriented, Western Establishment — the Empire and everyone else.

    The underlying unmentionable is that the US and Canadian governments are lackeys to global corporations and billionaires. There is no better indication of the colonial servitude of the peoples of the Americas than the 1,242,031 who have died in the USA, Brazil, Canada and Mexico due to COVID-19. WaPo points out that the Mexican excess deaths are vastly under counted by half.

    The tragedy of the New World is that all of the governments are so corrupt and incompetent it is simply impossible to judge the risks. The mRNA vaccines are being wasted. Gene therapy does cut down the risk of death and severe illness but at the risk of known and unknown side effects. Due to the variants and jab hesitancy the Holy Grail of “herd immunity” will never be reached. But the vaccines together with a vigorous competent national public health program of testing, contact tracing, isolation, masks, social distance and personal hygiene can eradicate the virus. However, the Establishment won’t spend the money or restore democracy. Professional Managers need the exploitative privatized healthcare system to have an income. But, millions of dead cannot go unnoticed. Unrest and Succession are certain if the virus remains endemic in the Western Hemisphere.

    1491 repeats itself and will keep reoccurring if strong borders and good government are not restored.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle May 2 2021 #74362
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    I googled Germ’s information and found the following;

    Salk researchers and collaborators show how the coronavirus spike protein damages cells, confirming COVID-19 as a primarily vascular disease.

    mRNA vaccines code the assembly of the spike protein to trigger the immune system response.

    I will need to go to the dentist and doctors, sooner or later. Isolating at home is not a long-term solution. I located the state drive-in Pfizer vaccination site 45-minutes away and was going to call to make an appointment. This news mucks everything up.

    Since I am an old fart, I resent the implication that I should just go and die. This attitude causes civil wars. But this amoral ideology has infested the West and brought on the pandemic. “Profits before lives”. If the USA had a functional national public health system and a government that cared about the best interests of its citizens, all this would have been avoided.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle April 30 2021 #74232
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    “Grieving the End of Progress” is excellent at illuminating the elephant in the room.

    I’m amazed that I am not depressed. I am still in the bargaining phase although it is clear that denial and siloing makes finding the truth near impossible. WaPo found experts who said that Joe Biden’s speech to Congress was mask — social distance theater since vaccines make COVID-19 risk to participants nil. But this is not true. The Kentucky nursing home breakout with 22 vaccinated patients and workers becoming infected and one dying shows that the mRNA vaccines do not prevent super-spreader events.

    Likewise, the spike in Israel Excess Deaths of over 65 who are 90% vaccinated that Doc Robinson linked to is concerning and unexplained.

    In the USA, the only alternative to vaccination is isolation at home – avoiding the public – if you can afford it. Or denial and saying the hell with it. Ultimately all are not a viable when hospitalized. Today’s spike in cases in blue regions of Oregon and Washington State show that corporate global progressiveness has failed. For-profit vaccination and government that relies solely on it are failing. The US public health system must be nationalized and the USA put on a war footing to eradicate coronavirus and its variants.

    Over a million persons have died in the Western Hemisphere in the pandemic. The present course will end up with South Asia, Europe and the Americas filled with sick and highly unequal States like Brazil with all the chaos that will bring.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle April 29 2021 #74178
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    What is primary yet it is not discussed is the complete failure of government to plan, test and collect data to track the pandemic in real time down to the community and individual. For example, the Israel article shows that there is no need to vaccinate anyone who has caught the disease and recovered. It makes more money for corporations but increases the risks to the vaccinated. But accurate cheap tests are needed to detect those who have recovered and have antibodies and also those who are shedding the virus. They are still unavailable in the West sixteen months into the pandemic although home tests are starting to be sold by drug stores in the USA but are not part of a public health program. Everyone in South Asia, Europe and the Americas is on their own.

    The virus needs to transfer to uninfected hosts to reproduce during a one week period when the infected are shedding the virus. Cut this transmission and coronavirus will die out.

    It is unfortunate that trillions are proposed be spent on infrastructure and four more years of free education but do not included adding screened windows and HEPA air filters to classrooms. There is absolutely no interest in ending the pandemic by closing borders, nationalizing the public health system and doing everything necessary that already has been proven to be successful in Taiwan, Singapore, Vietnam, South Korea, Australia and New Zealand. It would only take two months to end the pandemic. But it is expensive, requires a working government going on a war footing during the emergency.

    My next door neighbor has determined that like her this old fogey needs to be vaccinated. This is incredibly stressful when you don’t know what to believe; not unlike, being a war-zone except in the US Army you were never alone.

    in reply to: The Virus Is Far From The Biggest Danger #74069
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    The West went with vaccines because it makes money for corporations. There is a mental block to anything else. It threatens the overseers’ pocket books.

    It is possible to develop quick, cheap and accurate antigen and antibody tests in order to see who has been infected and who has antibodies to determine that they do not need to be vaccinated. Those who are recently infected and shedding the virus, must be safely quarantined for free, immediately, or stay at home if they test positive. Provide enough public health workers at the community level to keep track of testing, contact tracing, medical reports, work and school bubbles, quarantines and treatments. Healthcare for all to treat the ill.

    Western rulers are getting richer. They are uninterested in eradicating coronavirus or the over million dead in the Western Hemisphere.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle April 27 2021 #74012
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    The Israel report is very interesting. I didn’t see any trigger memes. The study is supported by the by the ringing reports of protection of healthcare workers at first, but the private/public PR campaign has been deadly silent about this the last two months. It is becoming clear that mRNA vaccines won’t prevent breakout infections. Coronavirus will remain endemic in South Asia, Europe and the Americas without comprehensive public healthcare programs. If these reported serious adverse reactions are the result of the vaccines themselves, this will be the West’s Chernobyl.

    in reply to: One Myopic Dimension #73890
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    The world is two dimensional when all that counts is money. Multinational billionaires and corporations bought western politicians and superseded democracy with trade pacts starting the 1980s. The globalized Western Empire caused the spread of coronavirus out of China. Imperial “Insiders” are a cult. The Empire is not led a charismatic authoritarian but a family type of religion. “The free movement of people, capital, goods and services.” Increasing their wealth, no matter what, is their guide and justification. This is what killed over a 1.1 million people in the USA, Brazil and Mexico.

    The mRNA vaccines will not control coronavirus. The breakout transmissions indicate this. But the gene therapies could well lower the numbers sufficiently that testing, contact tracing and quarantines could work in nations where coronavirus is endemic. That there is absolutely no discussion of restoring the public health system in America is documentation that Europe, South Asia and the Americas are led by class cults.

    Rentiers and Managers simply will not give up the half of the 17.7% of US GDP that is exploited from Americans to pay for privatized healthcare. Good governance vanished decades ago. Propaganda is intentionally siloed to divide Americans to assure that nothing changes. But it will.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle April 24 2021 #73824
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    PR news (propaganda) is siloed to reinforce existing ethnic and class divisions to maintain the status quo.

    The risks of getting COVID-19 are simply not clear at all. This is intentional in order to sell as many mRNA jabs as possible. Clearly the US government is not telling the whole truth. It is using the vaccines to compensate for a failed 50 state public health system.

    The risks of COVID-19 are substantial and real for the elderly, obese, diabetic, and already ill. John Hopkins says my risk is 4.8 out of 10. Coronavirus is highly contagious. It travels in the air as an aerosol. In a quarantine hotel, it infected occupants across the hall when the door was open for only 50 seconds.

    For the young, yes, the risks are less, but there is still a chance of getting long COVID or dying. It has been shown that outbreaks occur when schools are reopened. Claims that say that kids don’t transmit the virus to grandparents in multi-generational homes are false. Younger patients are being hospitalized in the US due to the rise of the UK variant.

    In neoliberal nations, the privatized healthcare system is unable to process the overload. India families are begging for oxygen for their ill. The virus is endemic in South Asia, Europe and the Americas. In the endemic regions of the world there is no testing for the virus and variants in real time for everyone, comprehensive contact tracing, or free safe quarantine facilities. You are on your own. Isolation works if you can afford it but has side effects. Hugging others is risky, even outdoors. Vaccination lowers risks significantly but apparently still allows transmission of the virus; most likely allowing the virus to remain endemic in populations without a comprehensive national public health system.

    As an individual, if you get sick and die, that is it. Population risks don’t matter. What is frightening is an unvaccinated Kentucky nursing home worker spread the virus to 22 vaccinated residents and workers — one died. Sooner or later, humans and the virus will coexist as another common cold. Where deadly strains are still endemic, there will be no go zones, isolated by strong borders, or civilization will have collapsed.

    But then, like war, afterwards, you will only meet people who were lucky, prudent or both. The maimed will be ignored. The pandemic named but forgotten.

    in reply to: Save Earth Get Rich #73784
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    When money is the sole means of measuring value, life gets shortchanged.

    “Biden’s billionaire political sponsors promise to save you, but of course they do need to make a profit off it.” Yes. This is true not only of climate change but everything else too.

    The USA has been at war for thirty years so the military and contractors can make money. Plus, the protection racket assures the world’s wealth is handled by Wall Street, City of London and its Caribbean Island offshoots.

    Transportation, Education and Public Health are being privatized to increase flow of public money through private hands. The mRNA vaccines within a for-profit healthcare system are incapable of controlling coronavirus. In a Kentucky nursing home one infected worker infected 22 other vaccinated customers and workers, killing one. If an uninfected elderly American with comorbidities wants to go out in public and have a reasonable risk of not dying, they must be jabbed twice this year and once in the years following, wear masks and socially distance. This is thanks to billionaires who do not want a functional government and will only approve policies that increase their profits not the expensive public health measures that are eradicating coronavirus in Taiwan, Vietnam, South Korea, Australia and New Zealand.

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    This could be a turning point. Reality has punctured the PR bubble. The basic problem are leaders that still believe the propaganda. They must if they are to earn 7 million dollars like Janet Yellen.

    The US Navy dare not to run the Bosporus Strait with two ships into the Black Sea. Ukraine realized they will get not support for a hot war with Russia and have backed down.

    Why risk gene therapy and having your body awash with coronavirus spike protein when you still must mask up and avoid dark damp spaces? Overseers cannot explain why Texas is outperforming Michigan. Half of the nation has been injected with mRNA vaccines once, but the number of coronavirus cases is plateauing at the second peak levels.

    The First Rule of Neo-liberalism is “profits over lives”. Coronavirus Vaccines are corporate profit makers.

    Taiwan, Vietnam, Australia, New Zealand prove that coronavirus can be eliminated but constant vigilance is required to control imported outbreaks from Europe and the Americas. Half-ass lockdowns and vaccines do not work. There must be a working government with strong borders, a public health system that tests, tracks, and quarantines the infected for 7 days, and a united people that mask, social distance and practice personal hygiene. In two months, coronavirus would be gone, and the economic depression ended. But this is too expensive for the rentier and managerial classes. The pandemic has profited billionaires.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle April 20 2021 #73562
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    Humans view the world through an inherited template imprinted by education and experience. Views and thoughts that don’t match are ignored. If the brain cannot avoid it anymore, cognitive dissonance, anxiety and insomnia results. Myself, the Republicans were crazy for invading Iraq in 2003. Democrats insane for inciting the Ukraine Coup and starting a forever war in Europe, then there is “Russiagate”. After a fourteen-month quarantine, I know I live in a failed state run for corporate interests not the peoples.

    The pandemic is real. Mutated variants assures that it is not going away anytime soon. Vaccines make money but will not control an endemic coronavirus. Jab hesitancy is increasing. Yearly shots at a minimum will be required. For the elderly and those with comorbidities, the roulette wheel risk of infection; long COVID, or death is there as long as the virus remains in the population. “India’s health system has collapsed”. The Russian flu that is speculated to be caused by a coronavirus lasted from 1889 through 1895.

    The virus can be controlled. Taiwan and Vietnam, for example, prove it.
    https://theconversation.com/how-taiwan-beat-covid-19-new-study-reveals-clues-to-its-success-158900

    The basic problem for Americans is that these successes show that a functional government with strong borders must do everything; test, trace, quarantine (7 days), mask, social distance, and personal hygiene to reduce the virus’s basic reproduction number below 1 and eradicate the virus. The globalist Western Empire cannot, will not, control the virus. It is too corrupt and incompetent. “Profits over lives.” The Hospital Ship Comfort came and went during NY city’s first wave without being properly utilized because it does not fit into the for-profit healthcare system.

    In a decade, the coronavirus waves of infection will fade away. Survivors (if WWIII is avoided) will ignore the maimed and will forget the past. The Western Empire will be gone. North American states will no longer be united.

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