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  • in reply to: Debt Rattle September 26 2021 #88208
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    * The Daily Covid
    – The Standard of Care: Undertreat then entreat then maltreat
    – I offered to share the original research. No interest.
    – The ICU is the new old man’s friend; Abandon all hope ye who enter herein
    – Pfizer Antiviral to be mandated; Will be marketed as Bubble Gum Flavored Force Paste
    – Fauci: Too BigWig to Fail
    – Unvaxxed Lives Matter
    – Vaccines: Not carcinogenic but carcinophilic; Dysgenics is the new Eugenics
    – Vaccine acceptance: The road to hell is paved with good emotions
    – Vaccine passports: Government of the no brainers, by the no brainers for the no brainers
    – The unvaxxed are the graveyard of viruses; The vaxxed are proving grounds for variants
    – Naturally immunity is the Taliban; Vaxxed immunity is the US military; Joe Biden is Commander in Chief

    * The World We Live In
    – Traffic accidents up; No one knows why
    – We are in the eye of the storm
    – Slate Magazine: Read it and barf
    – Professional. Managerial. Class: Making Money by Controlling Others to Improve Social Rank
    – Those that get to talk at rallies don’t know, those that know don’t get to talk
    – When you’re one step ahead of the crowd you’re a genius. When you’re two steps ahead, you’re a crackpot. — Shlomo Riskin

    * Come and listen to a story ’bout a man named Joe
    A mover and a shaker who’d become a little slow
    Then one day he was feelin’ kinda mean
    And made up a law to mandate the vaccine
    Pfizer…Moderna…J n J

    Well the next thing you know Joe wrecked healthcare
    Psaki said, Joe move away from there
    She said a bad supply chain is a safer place to be
    So Joe served us up a bad economy
    Empty shelves…shortages…food scarcity

    Now it’s time to say goodbye to Joe and all his ilk
    They would like to thank you folks for kindly bein’ bilked
    You’re all invited back again when Joe’s shit hits the fan
    To have a heapin’ helpin’ of survivin’ best you can
    Useless Eaters…that’s what they call you now

    Nice folks, Y’all come back, y’hear?

    in reply to: Debt Rattle September 11 2021 #86908
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    The Daily Covid
    * Vaccines produce 1000X spike proteins as Covid
    * Long term Covid 19 vaccine effects may include all kinds of autoimmune diseases all of which will require a lifetime of expensive medicines to treat
    * Your Body, My Choice: Biden to run over governors but it’s not about politics
    * Politics n.: competition between competing interest groups or individuals for power and leadership
    * Nobody died when Clinton lied
    * Gupta: How do you convince people with natural immunity to also get vaccinated
    – Fauci: My answer on that is rather flaccid. I need to make up some data and have a dose of Viagra before I can screw those people
    * Pfizer working on jab for sperm; Good news is that it will only cost pennies per spermatozoon
    * Joe Biden: I’m not a doctor, but I play one on TV, and I recommend you get vaxxed
    * Examining Covid Data: Where you slice the apple determines whether you get stem, seeds, flesh or the worm

    * If you want to know who rules over you, just look for what medicine you are not allowed to take

    * The New Nuremburg trials:
    Prosecutor: Joe, try to form a sentence out of the words hare, hunter and field.
    Joe: That’s easy guy. Hunter held the girl down by the hair in the field.

    Science: Doubt the experts
    The Experts: Doubt your doubts

    My Country Used to Be

    in reply to: Debt Rattle September 9 2021 #86738
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    What No One Would Have Believed Five Years Ago

    * There will be a virus that spreads around the world
    * It’s origin will be either from a lab where it was genetically engineered or from an animal where it crossed to humans; The true origin will be contested
    * It will mostly kill the old and people with other health problems like diabetes
    * It will also have long term adverse effects for many that contract it
    * A unreliable test for the disease will be used; Anyone testing positive will be counted as a ‘case’ and anyone dying with a positive test will be counted as a death from the virus; Public policy will be driven by the number of cases and deaths
    * Many websites will publish daily statistics of the number of cases and deaths in every state in the US and every country in the world
    * Initially it will be hoped that the virus can be quickly conquered but measures to combat it will continue for a long time
    * Countries will respond by mandating masks, keeping your distance from others, closing businesses and having people stay at home
    * Many things will go online and human to human contact will be greatly diminished
    * Initially it will be believed that the virus is mostly spread by droplets landing on surfaces and washing hands and not touching your face will be stressed
    * Eventually it will be believed that it is mostly spread by aerosols which are finer than droplets and can stay in the air for a long time
    * Mask wearing will be introduced during the droplet phase but will be continued to be stressed even after it is known that aerosols are the main way it is spread
    * The medical system will tell people that contract the disease to stay home and take the things they would take for a cold or flu and to come to the hospital when the think they might die
    * At the hospital they will be treated in a variety of ways; Some will recover but some will be put on ventilators and die
    * The main treatment that will be actively pursued will be vaccines, but instead of the traditional vaccines that use inactivated viruses a new technology will be created that, when injected, will get your own cells to create a small part of the virus and your immune system will create antibodies for just that part of the virus; This small part of the virus will itself be pathogenic but won’t be able to propagate
    * When the novel vaccines are tested they will be claimed to be 90% effective at stopping people from contracting the virus
    * Drug companies who create these novel vaccines will make tens of billions of dollars from them
    * Websters dictionary will redefine ‘vaccine’ to include this new technology
    * These novel vaccines will be quickly authorized for use without full approval; This will be claimed as necessary because the virus is so dangerous to society
    * It will be claimed that the vaccines will eliminate the disease but this will not be the case; Vaccinated people will still be able to contract the virus and spread it to others; It will still be claimed that they lessen the impact of the disease
    * It will also be claimed that natural immunity after recovering from the disease is not as effective as immunity from getting vaccinated
    * The virus will mutate and vaccines will be less effective on the mutated virus
    * Some doctors directly treating patients will claim there are existing medicines that cure or mitigate the disease
    * The medical establishment will not accept any of these, claiming there is insufficient evidence to approve any treatment using existing medicines
    * Some people will use existing medicines improperly causing bad reactions; This will be cited as another reason not to use existing medicines
    * The novel vaccines will have many reported side effects; Little effort will be given to accurate reporting of side effects or to determine if reported side effects are caused by the vaccines or are just coincidental
    * Countries will react in different ways; Countries with resources will attempt to get as many as possible vaccinated; Some will introduce draconian measures including total lock down of the population
    * There will be a large percentage of the population that refuses the novel vaccines for various reasons including possible side effects and unknown long term consequences
    * Governments will go to great lengths to convince people to get vaccinated including offering them perks like million dollar lottery tickets, requiring vaccination for employment and limiting what the unvaccinated can do
    * There will be a movement to punish the unvaccinated and some people will blame them for the mutations and the continuing spread of the virus; Some will suggest that the unvaccinated should not be allowed to associate with the vaccinated and that they should have to pay extra for health care or not receive health care if they contract the virus
    * The news cycle will be dominated by stories about the virus, the vaccines and the unvaccinated
    * People will will wistfully talk about the way things used to be and wonder if it will ever get back to ‘normal’

    in reply to: Debt debt Rattle September 7 2021 #86549
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    I have watched for years as people responded to case after case of overstepping of some “red line” that was thought untouchable with some version of “the silent majority will only stay silent for so long!”
    Just now, I realized something. The silent majority will never say or do anything. Almost all of them will assimilate into the cause they claim to oppose. It always happens this way. It always will happen this way.
    Those who have not said or done anything yet will not say or do anything unless they have a massive change of heart. They think that the change of heart will come when some future red line is crossed. But when that red line is crossed–and it always is–they do nothing.
    Just today I came across this quote, written by a German who experienced the rise of the Nazis as an adult:
    “But the one great shocking occasion, when tens or hundreds or thousands will join with you, never comes. That’s the difficulty. If the last and worst act of the whole regime had come immediately after the first and smallest, thousands, yes, millions would have been sufficiently shocked—if, let us say, the gassing of the Jews in ’43 had come immediately after the ‘German Firm’ stickers on the windows of non-Jewish shops in ’33. But of course this isn’t the way it happens. In between come all the hundreds of little steps, some of them imperceptible, each of them preparing you not to be shocked by the next. Step C is not so much worse than Step B, and, if you did not make a stand at Step B, why should you at Step C? And so on to Step D.
    “And one day, too late, your principles, if you were ever sensible of them, all rush in upon you. The burden of self-deception has grown too heavy, and some minor incident, in my case my little boy, hardly more than a baby, saying ‘Jewish swine,’ collapses it all at once, and you see that everything, everything, has changed and changed completely under your nose. The world you live in—your nation, your people—is not the world you were born in at all. The forms are all there, all untouched, all reassuring, the houses, the shops, the jobs, the mealtimes, the visits, the concerts, the cinema, the holidays. But the spirit, which you never noticed because you made the lifelong mistake of identifying it with the forms, is changed.” (Milton Sanford Mayer, They Thought They Were Free: The Germans 1933-45)
    There will be a great separation as the wedge of truth drives into the heart of each person. It will manifest at the societal level, across the globe, but it will happen within the individual.
    If the silent majority were going to do something, they would have already done so.
    I have seen countless examples of this: from workplace harassment, where the loudest complainers became party to exactly what they had complained against when their convenience required it, to churches (where red line after red line has been and is and will be crossed), and on and on.
    The silent majority of today is the oppressive majority of tomorrow. They just don’t know it yet.

    From UpwardThought

    in reply to: Debt Rattle September 6 2021 #86419
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    The Ambulance Down in the Valley

    ‘Twas a dangerous cliff, as they freely confessed,
    Though to walk near its crest was quite pleasant
    But over its side slipped a duke and a prince
    And it had fooled many a peasant.
    The people all said something had to be done,
    Though their projects did not at all tally;
    Some said, “Put a fence at the top of the cliff,”
    Others, “An ambulance down in the valley.”

    The lament of the crowd was profound and so loud
    Their hearts overflowed with great pity
    But the ambulance carried the cry of the day
    As it spread to the neighboring cities
    A collection was made to accumulate aid
    And the dwellers in highway and alley
    Gave dollars and cents, not to put up a fence,
    But an ambulance down in the valley.

    “For the cliff is all right, if you’re careful,” they said,
    “And, if folks ever trip and are dropping,
    It isn’t the slipping and sliding that hurts
    As much as the shock when they’re stopping.”
    And so on for years as these mishaps occurred,
    Quick forth would those rescuers sally
    To pick up the victims who fell off the cliff,
    With their ambulance down in the valley.

    Said one in his plea it’s a marvel to me
    That you give so much greater attention
    To repairing results than to curing the cause
    Why you’d much better aim at prevention
    For mischief of course should be stopped at its source
    Come friends and good neighbors let’s rally
    It makes far better sense to rely on a fence
    Than an ambulance down in the valley

    He’s wrong in his head the majority said
    He would end all our earnest endeavors
    He’s the kind of a jerk that would halt our good work
    But we will support it forever
    Don’t we pick up them all just as quick as they fall
    Treat them with care quite liberally
    A superfluous fence is of no consequence
    If the ambulance works in the valley

    Well this story is queer as I’ve given it here
    Though things oft occur which are stranger
    More humane we assert to remove all the hurt
    Than a plan to remove all the danger
    Before it all ends it’s time to begin
    To attend to these things rationally
    Yes build up the fence and let us dispense
    With the ambulance down in the valley

    — Joseph Malins (modified by John Denver)

    in reply to: Debt Rattle August 31 2021 #85887
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    How to Win at Covid 19 Chess

    * The Opening or Fauci’s Gambit: Engineer a virus that is somewhat deadlier than the flu. Release it and obfuscate the origins. Report worldwide deaths 24/7 to get people scared.

    * The Middlegame or The Orthodox System: Block available treatments and roll-out draconian and painful measures until a novel, somewhat safe and somewhat effective but ultimately leaky therapy can be created. This will ensure the virus spreads worldwide and mutates, prolonging the crisis indefinitely. Use the media and governments to convince everyone that the new therapy is their only hope of returning to ‘normal’. Vilify anyone who says otherwise as haters of humanity.

    * The Endgame or Zugzwang: Once people are convinced that the new therapy is their only hope, tell them that for the safety of all they must have continuing proof that their therapy is up-to-date in the form of a global, digital record required for admittance to any place where there are other people including shops, churches, travel and entertainment venues. Give this ‘passport’ a star-studded yet guilt-driven and threatening ad campaign and link it to a sexy technology like block-chain to make it hip and popular.

    * Checkmate or The Smothered Mate: Once the passport is in place you can expand its criteria to include anything you want and people who refuse will be unable to function in the modern world. You have achieved total control of much of the world population. Your ability to predict people’s response 13 moves in advance has paid off. Clear the board at will.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle August 30 2021 #85831
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    * The Daily Covid
    – The Narrative: They stole it from us, our precious!. Curse them! We hates them!
    – Schrodinger’s Vaccine: The virus is going to evolve to become antibody resistant, whether or not you deploy a vaccine, but because we have a vaccine, there’s a way to prevent the virus from spreading and evolving further.
    – Risk of ADE must be disclosed before vaccination
    – Totalitarianism for fun and profit: Sick Semper Tyrranus
    – Good ideas do not require force
    – A useful syllogism: If you get vaccinated it’s because of Covid; If you die from the vaccine it’s because you got vaccinated; Therefore if you die from the vaccine it’s because of Covid
    – How to get your funeral paid for in Ottawa: Get vaccinated just before you die
    – Identifying metals in vaccines is hard
    – Get vaxxed or not and suffer the consequences
    – Only get the vaccine if it’s vile Comirnaty
    – Unfrtunately convincing material that the vaccines are safe and effective in the long term will only be available in the long term
    – Pfizerized cells lose neutralizing activity
    – Expecting the vaccine to be effective is unrealistic
    – Take the shot; There’s a bullet in one of the chambers but trust us, there are a lot of chambers

    * Decision makers don’t have time to understand relevant information; It’s been done for them

    * It’s either Pantheism or Nihilism but not both

    * We have been in the long emergency since 2001 1973 1933

    * Solutions to Covid 19:
    1) Use Ivermectin
    2) Avoid obesity
    3) Don’t report deaths

    * US Drone Policy: Hellfire anyone with a weapon or a radio
    US Evacuation Policy: Leave behind 600,000 weapons and 160,000 radios

    * Snow’s Law: He/She who uses the F-word first loses the argument

    in reply to: Debt Rattle August 27 2021 #85561
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    * The Covid Daily
    – Biden announces new initiative: Two Weeks to Flatulate the Curve and promises to lead by example; Fauci says overdosing on horse paste might actually work this time
    – What are governments going to do when the obvious becomes obvious: Denial, Anger, Grief, Depression, Acceptance aka Lie, Lie, Lie, Lie, Lie; There will be no responsibility and no apologies
    – Natural immunity is more effective and lasts longer
    – Some vaccines contaminated with metal
    – We will never reach herd immunity because the vaxxed keep wandering away from the herd
    – A negative Covid Test is like a participation trophy: Good jab, good jab, good jab, good jab ….
    – Are the FLCCC protocols safer and more effective than the vaccines?
    – Biden announces CDC to receive ultimate worldwide sovereignty; CDC announces plan to exercise Droit de Seigneur with every man, woman and child on the planet

    * The social contract is in tatters

    * We need to give Bill Gates his own personal great reset: Control, Alternate, Delete

    * First they mock you, then they fight you, then they have you disappeared

    * How would you like today’s wages, in paper or plastic?

    * Pentagon announces US Troops were actually raptured from Bagram Airbase leaving no trace; Afghan colleagues left behind will now undergo 7 years of tribulation

    in reply to: Debt Rattle August 26 2021 #85462
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    * The Daily Covid
    – The unvaccinated are the new lepers
    – Extremely rare is the new well done
    – Ivermectin deemed not safe, not effective and not profitable
    – Ivermectin found to cause stroke, bell’s palsy and myocarditis in Fauci’s dreams
    – High risk after infection; Low risk after vaccination; Lower risk with Ivermectin, zinc and vitamin D; But there’s still a risk
    – One size must fit all
    – Delta to raise insurance premiums on employees who drink Big Gulps
    – Mr. Ed to star in anti-Ivermectin commercial; He’s got something to say
    – Japanese may try Ivermectin
    – India: Treat early to save lives; USA: Treat late to make money
    – 2023: Be sure and get your vaccine booster booster booster booster
    – Apple flavored Ivermectin is the new forbidden fruit; Taste it and you’ll be naked and ashamed, get thrown out of the garden and be chased away by Cherubim with a flaming sword

    * Dr. Malone was vaccinated; Paul was circumcised; Winston worked at Mini-Truth; Reagan was a Democrat; Anakin was a Jedi Knight

    * Fossil fuels may have destroyed the earth’s beauty, but boy that new Corvette’s a beaut

    * Invest your energy in surviving; Be the fittest

    * We should have just hired all the Afghans as telephone sanitizers

    * Bush’s Biden’s big mistake was believing the CIA’s intelligence

    * It was a slow day
    And the sun was beating
    On the soldiers by the side of the road
    There was a bright light
    A shattering of shop windows
    The bomb in the baby carriage
    Was wired to the radio

    These are the days of miracle and wonder
    This is the long distance call
    The way the camera follows us in slo-mo
    The way we look to us all
    The way we look to a distant constellation
    That’s dying in a corner of the sky
    These are the days of miracle and wonder
    And don’t cry baby, don’t cry

    in reply to: The Lies Must Stop #85351
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    * The Covid Daily
    – Kate Brown mandates outdoor mask use, citing poor ventilation of outdoor venues; Local LEO’s might not be so keen on arresting the maskless; Andrew Jackson responds: Kate Brown has made her decision, now let her enforce it.
    – Mold produced Penicillin; Scum produced Comirnaty
    – Israel needs boosters
    – Christina Parks for Surgeon General
    – Vaccines don’t work for the immuno-surpressed
    – The Pushers Maxim: The first one is always free
    – Question for Pfizer: Which types do you recommend the vaccine for?
    – Note to Fauci: Freedom is Yang worship word. You will not speak it

    * Note to all you happy people: Please restrict you happy talk to happy hour in happy valley
    – We don’t put socks in things, we put socks on things. Please don’t abuse socks
    – Let’s all give up on three: One, two, two and a half, two and three quarters ….

    * Blackmail is more effective than bribery; Guilt trumps greed every time

    * Lots of new commenters will lead to runaway comment inflation and ultimately comment devaluation; Trade in your comments now for food, water and a propane powered hair dryer before a wheelbarrow of comments will only get you a loaf of bread; Remember that comments eventually return to their intrinsic value

    * Afghanistan, mandates, protests, dementia, incompetence: Fasten your seat belts, it’s going to be a bumpy fortnight

    * Etymology:
    – CO: Carbon monoxide, a toxic substance
    – Mir, the Russian word for ‘world” and “peace”
    – NA: Not Available
    – Ty: Maker of beanie babies, i.e. cute stuffed animals thought to be valuable someday
    – COMirNATy: A toxic substance intended to facilitate Pax-Russia, which, while not actually available, has convinced the public of it’s cuteness and future value

    * Go outside to do a small task
    Be sure that you put on a mask
    “But what does that gain me?”
    In response they detain me
    “Big Brother has spoken! Don’t ask!

    in reply to: Debt Rattle August 24 2021 #85222
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    Reductio ad Absurdum

    * Daily variants requiring daily booster shots with daily new vaccines
    * 2 hour FDA vaccine approval process with fast track 15 minute approval
    * Pfizer starts new religion where everyone goes to hell unless vaccinated or a Pfizer stockholder or both
    * US military requires sex change operation for all personnel
    * US military changes mission to: Mop floors, act as chauffeur and go out for coffee and donuts for Taliban
    * Proud Boy gets life in prison for frowning at BLM poster; OAC changes death penalty stance
    * School district finds middle fingers offensive and requires all teachers to have them surgically removed from both hands or be fired
    * Omega variant can be transmitted by eye contact, has no symptoms and can’t be confirmed by testing but requires that all people live in their bathtub to halt the spread
    * WHO discovers that Covid is spread by flatulence and mandates butt masks for anyone outside their bathroom
    * Goldman Sachs announces Ivermectin backed crypto currency which replaces the dollar for all transactions except at Dollar Stores and Taco Bell
    * In a surprise move Bill Maher denounces sex but won’t give details

    in reply to: Debt Rattle August 22 2021 #84977
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    Rat Problem Update

    As I mentioned early my town has a rat infestation problem and though some suggested rat traps the mayor (who owns a coyote pelt farm) decided to address this by introducing coyotes. This had some unforeseen consequences. The coyotes also ate peoples’ pets and chickens and were a danger to toddlers. The rats mutated to a strain that many coyotes wouldn’t eat (the so called Sigma Rats). Now there is a new problem: Coyotes kill other animals (like racoons) and the rats feed on the carcasses and their population explodes (this is known as Coyote Dependent Enhancement). Many people with pets, chickens and toddlers distrust coyotes and fenced off their yards and started using rat traps. They claimed traps worked well but the mayor brought in an expert that claimed that traps don’t work as well as coyotes and that traps can be dangerous to the user so the city outlawed the sale of rat traps. The mayor’s expert also did a study that showed that 93% of the rats were now coming from fenced yards and that Sigma Rats were breeding and mutating there. In desperation some anti-coyotes started buying gopher traps and trying to use these to catch rats. One woman injured her finger in a gopher trap. Her trip to the emergency room was front page news. People complained that news of their pets that were eaten were never covered by the paper. This was dismissed as an anti-coyote conspiracy theory. Pro-coyotes are saying those with fences don’t care about their neighbors, should be ostracized, lose their jobs and they are threatening to forcibly tear down all coyote proof fences in town. The mayor is consulting with the city lawyer to see if these things are legal.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle August 21 2021 #84830
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    * TAE is using words, concepts, and explanations that are understood by a minority of people:
    – Logic: The study of the principles of reasoning, especially of the structure of propositions
    – Evidence: A thing or set of things helpful in forming a conclusion or judgment.
    – Reason: The basis or motive for an action, decision, or conviction

    * The science is clear. The vaccines kind of work and are somewhat safe and partially effective and might protect you from some variants of Covid some of the time.

    * A doctor hears about Ivermectin, tries it in his practice and sees overwhelming positive results; He researches the mechanism and clearly explains how it works; He must be a desperado, a crank and a liar

    * People believe Ivermectin works => Their healthcare providers refuse to prescribe it => They buy it in animal formulations => They can’t do math and take too much => They get a headache or nausea and call the poison hotline => One goes to the hospital => An article detailing this with a provocative headline makes the rounds and the anti-horse-paste crowd dances in the streets

    * People believe the vaccines work => The go get vaccinated => Some die or have long term disability from side effects => This must never be mentioned because it might dissuade people from getting vaccinated and cost lives

    * The situation in Afghanistan was more or less what everyone and their dog knew it was. The administration knew too but lied about it and couldn’t be bothered to prepare in advance for the inevitable. A crisis is good for a president because it gives him or her a chance to look presidential.

    * O Captain! my Captain! our fearful trip is done,
    The ship has wrecked upon the rocks, the prize we sought is gone,
    The port is burnt, the shots I hear, the people all revolting,
    While follow eyes the broken keel, the vessel smashed, convulsing;
    But O heart! heart! heart!
    We see a man as dense as any stone,
    Where on the deck my Captain sits,
    And licks an ice cream cone!.

    in reply to: Stop Mass Vaccination Now! #84531
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    My previous comment was maybe too cryptic and should have been titled: A Parable on Virus Mutation. It didn’t actually happen, at least not with the rats and coyotes.

    in reply to: Stop Mass Vaccination Now! #84513
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    In my town we had an infestation of rats and we wanted to control them. Some suggested rat traps or poison but others suggested we introduce coyotes. The mayor has a coyote pelt farm and could supply coyotes for a nominal fee so the coyote plan won. Now and then the rats mutate. Before we introduced coyotes there might have been a mutant rat that coyotes didn’t like but they lived with all the rats and never became the dominant strain. But after we introduced the coyotes the mutant rats that the coyotes didn’t like quickly became the dominant strain since coyotes ate the other rats. When people complained about the resurgence of rats the mayor hired a rat expert who said it was a function of the number of rats in the city and had nothing to do with introduction of coyotes. The mayor is starting a coyote breeding project at his farm to get a coyote that will like the mutant rats. In the mean time the coyotes have been eating peoples’ pet cats and small dogs. Toddlers are no longer allowed outside.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle August 16 2021 #84063
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    * Vaccinations: The third time’s the charm

    * No Nobel Prize for Malone; Will go to Fauci instead based on the Kissinger precedent

    * The vaxxed shed like a Maine Coon in the Spring

    * Everything shuts down in France; Airlines go under in the US; The Taliban take Kabul; The unvaxxed are to blame for all of it

    * Biden restarts and redirects Cash for Clunkers program

    * Biden Admin shows proof it can see the future with photo of Biden at Camp David taken 8 months from now; Photo proves outed operatives still alive in 2022

    * Taliban mask up and take shots while distancing; Proves they care about their countrymen

    * Pray like Mr. Wilson: Oh please, Oh please, just this once ….

    * Don’t worry Hong Kong, Taiwan, Ukraine and Lithuania, America will get you back

    * Biden’s Amazon Rule: You break it, you claim it was defective when you got it and send it back demanding a full refund

    * September 15th is when the US military puts up or shuts up

    * On September 20 it will be required to show proof of vaccination, proof of recovery from infection or proof of a debilitating vaccine side effect in order to enter theaters, gyms, restaurants or mortuaries.

    * With the Lord Biden 72 hours is like a year, and a year like 72 hours

    * Oregon plan to fund schools: Mandate no masks and get all districts to go against the mandate and get Federal aid

    in reply to: Debt Rattle August 15 2021 #83917
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    The Two Narrative and Falsifiability

    When the US attacked Iraq I knew people who were sure Saddam had WMDs. Today none of those people believe it; They all believe they were lied to. At some point the evidence surpassed the threshold of proof they required to change their minds.

    For both sides of the Covid narrative: what would it require to change your mind? Let’s take for example the Ivermectin question. One could say “If tomorrow Pierre Kory came out and said the whole thing was a ruse, that Soros had paid him millions to make up data and he had bribed people all over the planet to play along and had the bank statements to prove it I would then believe Ivermectin is not useful against Covid.” This is a pretty high bar but given the evidence maybe this is what it has come to.

    So anyway, what are your falsifiability criterion? Some questions to ask yourself:

    1) If you believe the vaccines are the best hope for beating Covid and that adverse effects are worth the cost, what evidence would it take to change your mind?
    2) If you believe vaccines are too dangerous and will likely have long term catastrophic adverse effects, what evidence would it take to change your mind?
    3) If you believe the FLCCC protocols are the best hope for beating Covid, what evidence would it take to change your mind?
    4) If you believe the FLCCC protocols are at best unproven and at worst will cost many lives, what evidence would it take to change your mind?

    in reply to: Debt Rattle August 14 2021 #83811
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    Perpetuating The Pandemic With 5 Harsh COVID Realities

    1. The virus will spread and mutate.
    2. Testing will continue so reported case numbers can remain high keeping the fear alive.
    3. Natural immunity will be repudiated and people with it will be demonized as unvaxxed.
    4. COVID-19 will not be treated at home.
    5. The current vaccines will be mandated and will be used as booster shots.

    Guitar Man

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    * Enquiring Minds Want to Know
    – What is the country by country obesity/Covid 19 correlation?
    – At what rate does Covid 19 cause mirco blood clots compared to the vaccines?
    – If Ivermectin doesn’t work, why are people lying about it?
    – If the vaccines don’t work, why are people lying about it?
    – Are the lower case rates in India due to Ivermectin or some other factor?
    – Can we trust Pfizer more than Monsanto?
    – Why is the DoD paying 3.5 billion to Pfizer?
    – What happened to the missing dollar?

    * Daily Astounding Misinformation and Fear Top Ten List
    10. Herd immunity is dead, long live herd immunity
    9. US Medicine is incompetent; The CDC are big, fat, pants-on-fire liars; Their credibility wouldn’t voom if you put four million volts through it
    8. The delta variant is contagious; The tests are worthless;. Mortality (aka death) in young adults surges after vaccination; The vaxxed are more dangerous to be around than the unvaxxed
    7. Ivermectin should work against ADE
    6. Cranks tell you to trust them as authorities rather than trust the trusted authorities who have repeatedly lied to us over many years; So choose the crank you trust wisely; Which crank would you invite to your backyard barbecue?
    5. Please buy my new book: How to Win Cranks and Influence Sheeple
    4. The only people who fear investigations are the guilty
    3. If you react to someone with a rampage, why, it’s the other person’s fault
    2. People who can’t do math should trust those who can
    1. If you are falsely accused of sexual impropriety with no proof you can spend years in prison; But if you make multiple lurid hardcore videos while high you will be offered a multi-million dollar book deal; Choose wisely

    * The power of NO is a curious thing
    Make one man weep, make another man sing
    Change a government mandate to a gaff by Joe
    More than just feedback, that’s the power of NO

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    * The Modern Delphic Oracle
    – Surety thyself
    – Know excess
    – Nothing brings ruin

    * Joe “No Regrets” Biden on Afghanistan:
    Yes, there were times, I’m sure you knew
    When I bit off more than you could chew
    But through it all, when there was doubt
    It ate you up and spit you out
    You faced it all, while I stood tall, you did it my way

    * Today’s Wisdom
    – Matisse is Truth, Truth Matisse, that’s all ye know on earth and all ye need to know
    – Mankind is evolving to homo experimentus; Sapiens no more
    – When your only tool is mRNA tech every problem looks like a protein
    – The economy is all about energy, not stuff; Energy matters more than matter energizes
    – CDC caught in more lies; Covid stats don’t add up
    – Corporations are designed to maximize profits and don’t care about you in the least though pretending they do helps maximize profits
    – With Ivermectin, earlier is better
    – Biden is invested in big pharma because big pharma invested in him

    * Knock, Knock. Who’s there?
    – NYer. NYer who?
    — N’ why are you getting vaccinated?
    – Dr. D. Dr. D. who?
    — Doctor dee patient, not dee system, OK?
    – Mister House. Mister House who?
    — Missed her house and ended up at yours. Can I come in?
    – Madam. Madam who?
    — Ma damn foot’s caught in the door, open up!
    – Archie. Archie who?
    — Our chi is fantastic. Wanna feng some shui?
    – TIllerman; Tillerman who?
    — Till her man comes home I’m not leaving.
    – Summary. Summary who?
    — Some marry their best friend, some marry their worst enemy.
    – Meier. Meier who?
    — My, you’re commenting a lot lately. Don’t make me have to handle this.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle August 11 2021 #83317
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    Your Daily Dose of Astounding Misinformation and Fear

    Currently a lot of people have a lot of money which they believe gives them a claim on energy, goods and services, but because of diminishing energy there are more claims than goods and services available. Someone will be disappointed. When Covid 19 arrived the TPTB saw an opportunity to address this by 1) making a lot of money to increase their claims on goods and services, 2) introducing a “New Normal” of tighter political and social control that would limit people’s claims on goods and service and 3) (this one is iffy) reducing the claims on goods and services by reducing the population.

    1) To make a lot of money they utilized mRNA tech that was hoped to work against HIV and engineered it to work against Covid 19. The tech was known to cause problems in lab animals including clotting and infertility, but high level corruption prevented this information from becoming widely known. They also knew that ADE was a possibility but this was also suppressed. At this point we really need to explore the unintended consequences of the vaccines. Variants are causing increased contagiousness and viral load and ADE may be here now or may take a while but as ADE becomes more well known it will be impossible to ignore.

    2) TPTB know that having things out of your control fosters a neurosis that makes people easier to control. Covid 19 was the perfect platform for this. So people are continually told the virus is more lethal than it is and they must continually disrupt their lives and do as ordered to save themselves and others. This prepares them for ever tightening controls. If Covid 19 was not introduced for this reason it has nonetheless been utilized for this purpose.
    3) Many of the claims in goods and services are held by the aged who have amassed them over a lifetime back in the day when linear thinking promised us the world. Whether planned or not, a virus that targets old people (who are of course useless eaters) could reduce the pressure on monetary systems.

    Much is done in the name of supposed prolonged life expectancy and claimed improved quality of life. To get this we work against nature. But technology reaches a point of diminishing returns. How much more useful is today’s bicycle than a bicycle from 100 years ago? Most will admit they are trading quantity for quality, but even this is mostly false. Even in the middle ages, once you passed the age of ten you were likely to live to 70, plus they had fewer pressures and more leisure time and a better social life (but no hot showers). People now aren’t living longer, they are taking longer to die. We need to quit chasing diminishing returns and get back to the garden.

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    * So Many Questions
    – In what cases does Ivermectin still work?
    – How do they test for Delta?
    – Why did Delta behave differently in India?
    – How do we know when it’s ADE?
    – If ADE is happening in the US, why not in the UK?
    – Are the vaccines safe for pregnant women?
    – Do some spike proteins result in superior antibodies?
    – How can one pay for IVM with dollars?
    – Why are Covid rates tied to political borders?

    * Kahn’s Razor: Never ascribe to a depopulation plan that which can be adequately explained by a lust for power, money and total social control

    * Covid data makes no sense
    – Covid, doesn’t kill you, your reaction to Covid kills you

    * Aphorisms
    – That which does not kill us makes us normal
    – Men used to blow off steam; No more pressure valve leads to insanity
    – At all costs western powers attempt to prevent the emergence of a more equitable post-colonial world
    – Everything they say is now a lie produced by a random truth generator
    – Never tell time your secrets because time will tell

    * Fatal Flaws
    – Cuomo put hands on womens’ waists
    – Biden sniffed hair
    – W didn’t read books
    – Clinton fooled around
    – Nixon dropped the puck
    – Capone was a tax cheat
    – Jack the Ripper stole hub caps
    – Pol Pot ran with scissors

    * Gold is Out, Crypto is In
    – The old properties of money: durable, portable, divisible, uniform, limited, acceptable
    – The new properties of money: digital, global, trackable, unlimited, obligatory

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    * The Covid Daily
    – As cases rise, vaccinations rise. As vaccinations rise, cases rise. Nice feedback.
    – The extra step required to get everyone vaccinated: Imagine a boot stepping on a human face, forever.
    – We must resist; Getting Covid is a risk, the Great Reset is a sure thing
    – Just wear a mask, get the jab and shut up
    – Fear is the mind-changer. Fear is the little-death that brings total vaccination.

    * Point/CounterPoint
    Who causes mutations
    – Mainstream: The unvaxxed; The more the virus replicates the greater chance for variants
    – Counter: The vaxxed; A variant that escapes the antibodies in a vaxxed person will proliferate and be shed
    Ivermectin in India
    – Counter: Ivermectin saved India
    – Mainstream: Crickets
    The Plan
    – Counter: They created the virus and now profit from the solution while suppressing all others
    – Mainstream: The science says only the vaccines can save us
    Breakthrough Infections
    – Mainstream: Variants caused by the unvaxxed may evade vaccines and kill the vaxxed
    – Counter: That’s ADE

    * When Mormon pioneers with handcarts left Iowa late in the season a man named Levi Savage tried to dissuade them telling them of the dangers of an early winter. When they wouldn’t be dissuaded he answered: “What I have said I know to be true; but seeing you are to go forward, I will go with you, will help you all I can, will work with you, will rest with you, will suffer with you, and, if necessary, I will die with you.”

    * Around the World
    * US now ruled by MBAs
    * Having picked the bones of the US bankers now look to China
    * Thousands of flights canceled
    * China embargoes US
    * Netherlands PM, “I didn’t read the book I praised, I was just being polite”

    * Why did the chicken cross the road?
    – madamski: The chicken’s bias was to stay on this side, but after critical thinking and ego detachment it crossed to the other side
    – D Benton Smith: I agree with JMG’s analysis of why the chicken crossed the road, I only disagree on how quickly it crossed
    – upstateNYer: I recently learned that all my chickens, even the young ones, have crossed the road. I am heartsick and furious.
    – oxymoron: Chickens crossing a busy road. What could go wrong?
    – Dr. D.: Drought in the midwest is reducing the number of chickens and China refuses to make up the chicken shortage
    – Polder Dweller: Spiroflor and roadkill chicken soup have worked well in the past
    zerosum: Cross smarter, not faster
    – germ: The chicken crossed: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZHvG-YyG3Q
    – TAE Summary: Cross the road with great respect, then, genuflect, genuflect, genuflect.
    – Raul Ilargi Meyer: There are too many chickens crossing the road. Don’t make me have to deal with this.

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    * The Covid Daily
    – Is donated vaxxed blood safe?
    – How will boosters shots affect ADE?
    – How will Ivermectin affect ADE?
    – Aerosols spread Covid 19 and masks don’t block aerosols
    – 311 Canadians contract Bell’s Palsy after vaccination
    – Despite all being vaxxed cruise ship reports Covid cases
    – Sinovac and Sinopharm are inactivated viruses but still have spikes and might cause ADE
    – Two doses of Ivermectin reduces infection rates by 83% in the following month
    – Those with antibodies shouldn’t be vaxxed
    – Supplemental doses aren’t exactly boosters according to Zuckerberg San Francisco General Hospital; Nuff said
    – Variants might be named after constellations; This is the dawning of the Age of Aquarius
    – The mRNA vaccines are gene therapy; Trust the Science; One can refuse treatment in a hospital; Much or our discussion is guesswork
    – Physicians who cause Covid 19 vaccine distrust could lose their license because they are not consensus driven and are hence verifiably false
    – PhD’s least likely to change their mind and get vaxxed
    – Pfizer agreement is a deal with the devil; You can take Ivermectin but you still won’t get your soul back
    – Vaccination is like throwing a virgin into a volcano; Or maybe like throwing a slut into a tar pit; Hard to say
    – Many so called cases are just dodgy positive test results; It’s easier to identify 1000 variants than accurately test one person
    – Vaxx death pathology: If you’re not looking you won’t find it
    – Stop fighting the curve; At this point everyone is either vaxxed or had the opportunity to get vaxxed; Everyone must face Covid; You’ve got to walk that lonesome valley
    – The unvaxxed are demonized; Life to get very difficult for the unvaxxed but at least they will still be alive

    * The Three Noble Syllogisms and the One Grand Conclusion
    If we reach herd immunity then things will go back to normal
    If we can all get vaccinated then we will reach herd immunity
    If the vaccines are safe and effective then we can all get vaccinated
    It follows that since vaccines are safe and effective, therefore things will go back to normal

    * Bits and Pieces
    – Barack is now a sexagenarian
    – Crisis and confusion creates cognitive dissonance
    – As Australians become impotent they hate that they aren’t native but are just penal implants
    – The Scientific method: Disprove all things, holdfast to whatever is left

    * Democracy
    – The Great Reset will smash property rights
    – The CDC has no constitutional authority
    – The elites are losers
    – Democracies by definition are happy with their states of affairs
    – The demos may oppose a thing but the kratos will have its way

    * We don’t need no vaccination
    We don’t need no jabbed control
    No dark mask mandates in the classroom
    Hey! Fauci! Leave those kids alone!

    in reply to: Debt Rattle August 7 2021 #82816
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    @Doc Robison
    Thanks for that information. I think people underestimate the importance of aerosol transmission and ventilation and it hasn’t been made a focus of policy like it should have.
    Papers like this show that the louder you speak the more aerosols you emit. It sounds like a joke but a measure that would be more effective than masking would be to say no speaking or maybe just talk softly in this establishment.

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    @ilargi

    No, getting vaccinated does not take away risk of getting Covid.

    True. I should have written

    Without FLCCC protocols your choice is to get vaccinated and risk the adverse effects or risk getting Covid with none of the claimed benefits of vaccination.

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    * The Three Questions
    1) How effective are the vaccines at preventing Covid symptoms, death and long Covid?
    2) How prevalent, how severe and how long term are side effects (including death) from the vaccines?
    3) How effective are the FLCCC protocols at preventing infection, hospitalization, death and long Covid?

    * UK Government Report
    – With 80% vaccinated the overall risk of dying from the Delta variant in the UK is 2.5x higher if you are unvaccinated. This does not speak to absolute risk reduction.
    – UK data actually answers question 1) somewhat affirmatively but does not answer questions 2) and 3)

    * Israeli data
    – Does not show severity of cases and so offers no data on effectiveness
    – Israeli data does not answer any of the three questions

    * Ippocrate protocols go beyond MATH+
    – Intended to answer 3) affirmatively but shows no data

    * Iceland data
    – Shows that vaxxed individuals can catch and spread the Delta variant without mentioning severity
    – This alone answers none of the three questions

    * The Lancet
    – …. Assessing the suitability of vaccines must consider all indicators, and involve safety, deployability, availability, and costs.
    Questions 2) needs to be answered.

    * Very Rare Adverse Effects are part of the answer to question 2) but are downplayed by the media

    * To Sum Up
    – No one should care about the number of cases, only the number of adverse short and long term consequences. Case counts alone can be misleading.
    1) There is evidence that shows that the vaccines diminish symptoms though not completely so 1) can be answered somewhat positively.
    2) The vaccines do have known adverse short term consequences and unknown adverse long term consequences including enabling variants. These consequences are downplayed and ignored. There is a big effort to not answer 2).
    3) Most on TAE believe (I assume) that the FLCCC or similar protocols are more effective than vaccines without short or long term adverse consequences. The repression of this information is the biggest problem.

    Without FLCCC protocols your choice is to get vaccinated or risk getting Covid. The MSM has most people believing this is their only choice and uses the partial effectiveness of 1) while downplaying 2) to convince people to get vaccinated. In short, without 3), 1) despite 2) is your only option.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle August 6 2021 #82689
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    Little gray squares, running along in rows
    gaily bouncing up and down the grid at right angles,
    intersecting, pushing out in new directions,
    free flowing, careless,
    orderly and haphazardly at will,
    building a mosaic,
    building, progressing, then
    stop.
    A blue square,
    in the way there,
    standing out,
    spoiling the pattern,
    interrupting the flow.
    Kick it out!
    Chip away the mortar!
    Break it into a score of silly blue slivers.
    There.
    Little gray squares, running along in rows
    gaily bouncing up and down the grid at right angles,
    intersecting, pushing out in new directions,
    free flowing, careless,
    orderly and haphazardly at will,
    building a mosaic,
    building, progressing…

    Jed Bryan

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    * A Very Brief Summary : The Three Important Questions

    1) How effective are the vaccines at preventing Covid symptoms, death and long Covid?

    2) How prevalent, how severe and how long term are side effects (including death) from the vaccines?

    3) How effective are the FLCCC protocols at preventing infection, hospitalization, death and long Covid?

    Who would cross the Bridge of Death must answer me these questions three, ere the other side he see.

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    * The Daily Covid
    – For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for nature cannot be fooled: Richard Feynman
    – Winter is coming; The army of the jabbed is past the wall; Be all that you can be
    – ADE will kill many this winter and the unvaxxed will be blamed; Though the Vaxx slay me, yet shall I trust in it
    – Fauci endorses dreamy, Ivermectin-like drug; NIH = Not Invented Here
    – Mandatory vaccination forms a more perfect Union, establishes justice, insures domestic tranquility, provides for the common defense, promotes the general welfare, and secures the blessings of liberty for ourselves and our posterity
    – One death from Covid is a tragedy, a million vaccine related deaths are a statistic
    – Social Credit System is coming to America wrapped in a mask and carrying a vaccine passport
    – Fauci’s Razor: The simplest of all the things I said about something has some chance of being right
    – When travel for the unvaxxed is illegal only unvaxxed illegals will travel
    – Proof that Covid 19 exists is hard to find
    – Vaccines have two month half life but side effects may result in a half life in two months
    – Useless, unintelligent, contrarian plague rats disguising themselves as patriotic free thinkers are the cause of this. No one else.

    * Aphorisms
    – Fear is the mind killer
    – Keep your head in the midst of chaos
    – Tend the garden, don’t get angry.

    * Blessed are the well informed, for they shall identify the truck that hit them
    Blessed are the paranoid, for they shall assume all trucks are out to get them and jump out of the way in time
    Blessed are the weak, for they shall lie down and the truck shall pass over
    Blessed are the Hungarians, for they stop trucks at the border
    Blessed are the grease makers, for theirs is the power to withhold and seize up the bearings of trucks

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    * The Daily Covid
    – ADE is the new AIDS
    – Ivermectin is used in 20 poor countries; If only they could afford vaccines!
    – NYC requires vaccination to participate in society
    – mRNA mounts denial of services attack on your cells via 14 trillion spike proteins
    – The unvaxxed are all felons
    – We need more autopsies

    * Miss America pageant announce natural beauty no longer acceptable for contestants; Only young women having undergone plastic surgery, liposuction and breast augmentation will be allowed

    * Note to Biden: The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

    * The US is following Soviet model for self destruction

    * The purpose of power is power

    * TAE
    – TAE Conservation of Quality Equation: quantity_of_comments * quality_of_comments = gallinazo’s number = 714.381 menckens
    – MSM is a desert; TAE is an oasis
    – Groupthink is dangerous at TAE

    * Deflationista Rant Summary
    – Most people don’t know what they are talking about
    – People who post counter-comments get smacked down
    – Judge content on its merits, not its author
    – We need to examine our own biases, especially in a group where all agree
    – Many are uncritically swallowing right wing misinformation, including Ilargi, Kunstler, Taibi, Greenwald
    – Blue states are dumb, red states are dumber
    – Misinformation we should reject:
    — The virus is fake
    — Vaccines make you infertile
    — Ivemrectin cures Covid
    — Hydroxychloroquine works
    — There are microchips in vaccines
    — The vaccines magnetize you
    — There are no excess deaths from Covid
    — The vaccines contain alien DNA
    — Injecting bleach fights Covid
    – The Truth
    — Scientists are not out to get you
    — Accept scientific consensus
    — Counter narrative doctors are crazy and creepy
    – Deflationista was sliding down the slippery slope but snapped out of it and is now warning TAEers. He has no skin in the game but wants people pushing the counter narrative to be held responsible for the harm they are doing.

    * Quotes from True Believer by Eric Hoffer
    – An effective mass movement cultivates the idea of sin. It depicts the autonomous self not only as barren and helpless but also as vile.
    – If a doctrine is not unintelligible, it has to be vague; and if neither unintelligible nor vague, it has to be unverifiable.
    – It is the true believer’s ability to “shut his eyes and stop his ears” to facts that do not deserve to be either seen or heard which is the source of his unequaled fortitude and constancy. He cannot be frightened by danger nor disheartened by obstacles nor baffled by contradictions because he denies their existence.
    – The facts on which the true believer bases his conclusions must not be derived from his experience or observation but from holy writ.
    – There is no doubt that in exchanging a self-centered for a selfless life we gain enormously in self-esteem. The vanity of the selfless, even those who practice utmost humility, is boundless.
    – The act of self-denial seems to confer on us the right to be harsh and merciless toward others.

    Application to our current situation is left as an exercise for the interested reader.

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    * The Covid Daily
    – Antigenic drift will leads to vaccine failure
    – Prophylaxis with Ivermectin protects Bulgarians
    – Finish firm patents drug with Ivermectin and Hydroxycholroquine
    – House flies spread Covid; Pelosi designates house flies as terrorists, adds additional fencing around Capitol and authorizes Capitol Police to shoot house flies on sight
    – In DC more people are murdered than die from Covid
    – Covid doesn’t kill people, the unvaxxed kill people
    – Jab produces 14 trillion spike proteins
    – More people die from car crashes than Covid
    – Stockpile IVM, HCQ and hydration
    – Fear is the best defense against Covid 19
    – The unvaxxed are under Russian mind control
    – Vaccination increases you odds of survival by 0.025%, not considering age, comorbidities and deaths from vaccination
    – Covid court cases in the making; DOJ asks CDC to help redefine what case means
    – People demand the FDA fully approve vaccines and that value of pi be set to 3
    – The vaxxed spread covid but that’s OK because they’re vaxxed
    – You may criticize the CDC, but only until you reach the bottom of the rope
    – Biden kicks off new ad campaign: Get Vaxxed or Get Doxxed!
    – Outbreaks prove vaccines work; The exceptions prove the rule
    – NY to unvaxxed: No soup, beer, movies or exercise for you!

    * Verites du Jour
    – Paper is safer
    – Solutions become the next problems
    – Discussion not possible when you insult the lame-brained idiot on the other side
    – Post length limit depends on the tree the post came from
    – People don’t want the truth, they want to win and he who comes in dead last wins best
    – Less water = less food
    – Heaven is for Muppets, hell is for Colonel Sanders
    – Turkey is not in Europe
    – Andrew Cuomo: #HimToo

    * Optimal Levels of Government
    – Self: Autocracy
    – Family: Enlightened Despotism
    – Neighborhood: Communism
    – City: Democractic Socialism
    – State: Constitutional Republic
    – Country: Libertarian State
    – World: Anarchy

    * The current goal of vaccination is to make the disease mild, not to stop the disease
    Vaccines are somewhat effective at this, but:
    – There are immediate side effects
    – Long term effects are unknown
    – ADE might happen
    – Non sterilizing antibodies allow mutations
    – Existing vaccines might not handle mutations
    – Additional jabs will be needed with unknown effects

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    * The Covid Daily
    – People don’t want a third jab
    – Puff ball pandemic info-graphic is popular with cats
    – The populace is close to a nervous breakdown because of competing collective delusions
    – Watching Yuri is taking one for the team
    – Semi-sanity is the new sanity
    – Science works wonders
    – Natural immunity covers variants
    – Wear your read triangle proudly
    – Everyone has Delta; Mission Accomplished

    * Mission Statements
    – Pfizer: At Pfizer, we innovate every day to make the world a healthier place.
    – Moderna: Deliver on the promise of mRNA science to create a new generation of transformative medicines for patients.
    – J&J: We believe our first responsibility is to the patients, doctors and nurses, to mothers and fathers and all others who use our products and services.

    * Business Models
    – The more critical a drug is to survival, the more we can charge for it

    * No law is the new law, cause law just don’t go around here, savvy?

    * Kamala is unpopular; The most votes ever narrative is becoming the most downvotes ever narrative

    * Once Upon a Time Definitions
    – Test: A procedure used to identify a disease in a person
    – Case: An instance of a disease in a person
    – Pandemic: An outbreak of a contagious disease that spreads rapidly and widely over a wide geographic area
    – Vaccine: an antigenic preparation of a typically inactivated or attenuated pathogenic agent

    * Protection from the vaccinations
    – Yes! I want protection from vaccinations!
    – Unvaccinated are 25X more likely to die from Covid
    – Those over 65 are 95x more likely to die from Covid
    – Those with comorbidities are 20X more likely to die from Covid
    – Dr. Fauci initiates campaign urging people to stay under 65 and avoid comorbidities

    * A model has suggested that a fourth wave of the Delta variant is coming in October. When pressed for details, the model stumbled on her high heels and was taken to a nearby emergi-care for a sprained ankle. A full recovery is expected.

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    * First hour of the long interview with Yuri
    – Yuri has been doing drug testing for 10+ years (for whom?)

    Slide 1:
    – Vaccines are dangerous (FALSE)
    – IVM I as effective (FALSE)
    – IVM is safe (UNPROVEN since no one has taken IVM long term)

    Slide 2: Debunks Caravallo IVM 100% effective study, non-randmomized, non-controlled
    – Debunking this paper is his main point and he puts a lot into it
    – 100% effectiveness is unbelievable (but he makes this claim for the vaccines)

    Slide 3: Shows list of IVM trials with between 50% and 100% efficacy. Average is 85%
    – To really get at the truth one would need to take a deep dive into all the studies. (I will do it if someone will pay me a lot of money)

    Slide 4: Caravallo study problems: non-randomized, changed dosage, too good to be true

    Slide 5: Shows studies with lower efficacy, 50%, 54%, 73%, 83%
    – He discredits the average by showing there were results below average: Note to Yuri: mean = sum of numbers divided by number of numbers

    Slide 6: In good studies IVM is ineffective or mildly effective
    – He is saying the below average studies were the good ones but prevents no evidence

    Slide 7: IVM might make things worse. In one study hospital patients had to be put on a ventilator 5 days earlier
    -This study only gave a low dosage of IVM for two days and lists its limitations as “Low percentage of hospitalization events, dose of ivermectin and not including only high-risk population” (As Clint says “A study’s got to know it’s limitations”). Also of 500 participants only 7 (1.4%) went on ventilators. The fact that he uses a crappy study to make a poorly supported point while accusing others of the same kind of thing wrecks his credibility IMO

    I expect in the last half he shows how safe and effective the vaccines are so why are we dithering around with Ivermectin? Don’t know if I’ll watch it.

    * Yuri also writes on Medium and says
    – Kids get lots of vaccines so why not this one: Poor argument.
    – Covid may turn into the worst pandemic ever: Conjecture, Hyperbole, Fearmongering
    – The vaccines are our only hope of stopping Covid: How does he know this? Did his spirit guide tell him? Decidedly unscientific.
    – Only 4500 deaths have been reported in VAERS that potentially could be caused by the vaccines: He does not address claims that VAERS is vastly under-reported. He is not the only one to ignore inconveniences, but it doesn’t recommend him.

    * Yuri mentions the smell test in the Quillette article. We have all seen where “science” can be wrong, especially when there is a lot of money to be made. As a kid we used to chase the DDT truck and try and stay in the cloud as long as possible because DDT was a safe and effective insecticide. Women were once told that formula was superior to breast milk because it had been scientifically formulated. Cigarettes don’t cause lung cancer. Nuclear down winders need not worry. Round up is harmless to humans. Ulcers are caused by too much stomach acid. Opioids are safe, effective and not addictive. Does a guy who works in the drug industry and who has never treated a patient telling us that a relatively new medical procedure is the end all be all in curing a disease while doctors who do treat patients are quacks pass the smell test? You decide.

    in reply to: The Vaccines Don’t Work #81834
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    * Yuri Deigen
    Attempt at a fair summary of the Quillette article that the video discusses/defends/rehashes
    – Bret Weinstein is a dangerous quack
    – The Article about Ivermectin from Argentina doesn’t pass the smell test and has been deemed of dubious quality
    – We just don’t know if Ivermectin works or not; It might work but would probably require an incredibly high dosage
    – Even if Ivermectin does work at lower dosages, vaccines are proven as safe as medical evidence gets
    – We don’t know if there are long term vaccine consequences but there is no need to fear any
    – The vaccines are 90% effective against ur-Covid 19 and 100% effective against dying from Covid 19
    – It is unclear if the vaccines protect against the Delta variant
    – The vaccines are THE miracle drug against Covid 19
    – The claim that Covid vaccines have caused more adverse affects than all previous vaccines is from Alex Jones and is demonstrably false
    – A JAMA study showed 5 days of Ivermectin did not improve symptoms (no link to study)
    – Even if Ivermectin is 85% effective as claimed it means the vaccines are 3 times more effective (implication: so taking Ivermectin instead of getting the vaccine will kill some people)
    – With better evidence we might change our minds

    Here are a few points from the video linked by deflationista

    – Yuri claims he doesn’t care about views or followers
    – Says not trusting the consensus and CDC is immoral and you are killing people
    – You are responsible for the possible deaths of people who trust you
    – Host points out that lab leak consenus was wrong. Yuri says that’s different. That was theoretical, this is life or death.
    – Says contracting Covid is more dangerous than the vaccines
    – Says 9-11 conspiracy was annoying, but Ivermectin theory is dangerous
    – Trusting Ivermectin might kill you
    – Geert Vanden Bossche is a quack
    – Ovaries don’t get the highest concentration of spike proteins, other organs do
    – Bret refused to have him on his show

    This is from the first 16 minutes. Yuri is hard for me to listen to. Maybe someone who listened to the whole thing can give us a better recap

    * Discrediting Treatments by Ad Fontes Attacks
    – Penicillin = Bread Mold
    – Smallpox vaccine = Cow teat puss
    – Gut Flora Transplant = Eating other people’s shit
    – Estrogen therapy = Mare’s piss
    – Anticoagulant = Snake venom
    – Ivermectin = Sheep dewormer from Japanese dirt

    in reply to: Debt Rattle July 31 2021 #81692
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    * The Covid Daily
    – I disapprove of your vaxx status but will defend to the death my right to force you to be vaxxed
    – Delta variant death/case ratio is low; If you can’t scare ’em with deaths, scare ’em with cases
    – Sweden didn’t flatten the curve and is now in long tail freedom
    – The mainstream narrative has the full faith and credit of the US government; The counter narrative is punishable as piracy of the truth and an offense against the laws of nations
    – The unvaxxed to become persona non libera
    – Mexican President won’t be held hostage to big pharma
    – Speaking out may cause disappearance
    – Either go to war with death or kill everybody right now
    – Masks hinder communication
    – We need a test that can diagnose all viruses
    – A million VAERS reports by year end likely
    – The unvaxxed risk their life every time they leave the house, every time they go cliff diving, every time they play golf in a lightning storm and every time they go swimming with sharks

    * The Summum Bonum
    – Protect the most vulnerable
    – Intervene with effective drugs when needed
    – Leave everyone else alone

    * The Madamski Kerfuffle
    – Effective communities require disruption; Perturbation isn’t a sin and won’t cause you to go blind; Perturbate as often as the urge strikes you
    – If you don’t like a comment, skirt it, skip it or skim it
    – Madamski accepts forthright, rude attempts at correction; Insult straight, ya bastards!
    – Madamski admits he’s corrupted the youth of TAE; Proposes a pension for life as his punishment
    – A commenter handled madamski
    He posted annoying, bad spamski
    Some think he’s to critical
    Lacks skills analytical
    You don’t like his stuff? Well be damnedski!

    * Bits and Pieces
    – The Oath Breakers and Sissies want to ban Oath Keepers and Proud Boys
    – Van Gogh paints AOC as she weeps for the Constitutions
    – Team Blue is morally bankrupt; The Problem is the Solution
    – No more voting, no more debates; The road to totalitarianism is paved with good abstentions
    – Nothing is going to save us
    – Walls and gates work both ways
    – What Would Geissel Do?
    – Smart people spout gobbledygook and brflgnk
    – All’s for the best in this, the best of all possible worlds
    – Evict them all, God shall know his own
    – The Will of the people doesn’t matter but The Won’t of the People requires a draconian response

    * Kieth Olberman
    – Was against the Iraq war
    – Would prefer Bush to Trump
    – Is madder than Maddow
    – Switched sides to avoid bed sores

    * Preppers Corner
    – Evaporated milk is natures most perfect food
    – If the air smells funny buy food and stockpile booze

    * Biden suggests “Babylon Bee” be renamed “The Mother of Harlots and Abominations of the Earth Bee”

    * An excellent effort. You have shown an analysis that is quite new.
    But now and then it seems to have … how shall one say?
    Too many numbers, Sire.
    Exactly, too many numbers.
    There are just as many numbers as I require, neither more nor less.
    My dear fellow, there are in fact only so many numbers the brain can comprehend in an evening.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle July 29 2021 #81364
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    I was intrigued by Rototillerman’s suggestion yesterday of using A Tale of Two Narratives as a basis for comparing the narratives. I started going through past TAE posts and adding links under bullet items. As expected, most TAE links support the counter narrative and there are many more to go through. In fairness I started googling items from the mainstream narrative and adding links to those. The preliminary result is here and I will add some more and repost in a few days.
    I am of course biased, but the impression I got as I googled and added mainstream links is that the mainstream narrative is thin. For example I googled “why should we trust the cdc” and all the links were about how no one trusts the CDC, and that from google. Try googling “why should kids be vaccinated for covid” and see what falderal comes up. Even so I am trying to document the mainstream points as objectively as possible.
    If anyone can suggest a way to work on this collaboratively I would be glad to transfer what I have done to such a site.
    Oh, and I have prioritized this over summarizing 🙁

    in reply to: Debt Rattle July 28 2021 #81241
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    * The Covid Daily
    – The virus is not the disease; The bullet is not the whole in your head; Pfizer/Moderna/J&J vaccines stop the disease while the virus is free to go on its merry way
    – No Jab no School in Oz; Nobody unvaxxed gets in to see the wizard. Not nobody.
    – What if an HIV vaccine was as ineffective as the Covid 19 vaxxes?
    – CDC uses Occam’s Weed-wacker to make decisions
    – Vaccinating every person on the planet is only possible if there are far fewer people on the planet; Kind of a chicken and egg problem
    – Geert Van Den Bossche’s ideas are too complex for AI to filter out
    – Spike proteins might circulate forever giving longer lasting protection
    – The EUA will not be withdrawn
    – Traditional vaccines are not pathogens; Covid vaccines create pathogens that can’t replicate
    – Q: What do you get when you cross Covid 19 with Sir Edmund Hillary?
    A: It’s not possible; You can’t cross a vector with a scaler

    * TEOTWAWKI
    – Vision is better than desire
    – Self fulfilling profligacy: Predict food shortages and then pave all the farmland
    The Rise and Demise of Civilization
    – Agriculture: It seemed like a good idea at the time

    * The Covid Law of Threes
    – You can live three minutes without a lie from Fauci
    – You can live three hours without a call from the MN Health Department
    – You can live three days without a new, deadlier Covid variant
    – You can live three weeks before your vaccine passport scheme fails

    * Power Corrupts
    – The Davos Overlords of Western Thought are the Guardians of the Galaxy and the Masters of the Universe all in one
    – The Intercept is crooked
    – The Cult of the Personality is unpleasant
    – There is no law but power
    – It’s a Mad Mad Mad Mad World; Best to plant some trees and not get involved
    – It’s a conspiracy theory until it’s mandatory
    – If TPTB were successful they wouldn’t mess with the system; If it weren’t broke they wouldn’t be trying to fix it

    * Chris Hedges
    – We spend billions in a misguided, hi-tech efforts that devolved into chaos, enriching corporations and giving power to our enemies with many lives lost causing economic carnage and no one is held accountable
    – Afghanistan and/or Covid 19?

    * When Joe lets slip the dogs of war will it be due to cyber attacks or will Joe forget he’s holding the leash and let it go as he reaches for an ice cream cone?

    in reply to: A Tale of Two Narratives #81114
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    * Addendum to Tale of Two Narratives

    The Mainstream Narrative
    – All people are at risk for Covid and should take the same precautions if for no other reason than out of solidarity
    – Long Covid is real and the best protection is to get vaccinated which diminishes Covid symptoms

    The Counter Narrative
    – Old people and those with co-morbidities like diabetes are at greater risk for Covid and should take greater precautions and be afforded extra protections
    – Long Covid is real and is best prevented by prophylactic, outpatient or in hospital treatment with recommended drug protocols

    * How to write like TAE Summary in 10 easy steps
    1. Have one parent who was an engineer and the other who was a poet and inherit the capabilities of both sides of the brain
    2. Be a life-long social misfit and try to compensate by saying clever, annoying things at the most inappropriate moments imaginable
    3. Study math in college and spend countless hours proving obscure theorems
    4. Join a religion and immerse yourself in the vagaries of theology, digging out obscure meanings of the holy scriptures
    5. Try your hand at stand-up comedy with mild success
    6. Read 1000 books, listen to a 1000 songs, watch a 1000 movies, skim 10,000 websites and remember a lot of what you read, heard, watched and skimmed
    7. Find a blog with excellent content where there are between 40 and 100 comments a day from interesting personalities, where the comments are reasonably intelligent, moderately argumentative and often entertaining
    8. Read the comments making a list of anything that sounds interesting, categorizing your list and pooling related items
    9. Let the neural-net/AI in your head combine/cross-correlate comments with each other and with things from a book, song, movie or website into a bulleted-listed jumble of nonsense, then delete the bits that could get you arrested
    10. Post and hope for the best

    in reply to: Debt Rattle July 26 2021 #80987
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    A Tale of Two Narratives

    The Mainstream Narrative
    – It is not known where Covid 19 originated but the most likely origin is the transmission from an animal to humans
    – Covid 19 has killed 600K people in the US
    – Trump botched the Covid 19 response costing many lives
    – Many deaths were preventable if we’d tested, masked, tracked and locked down better
    – Vaccines are good and have eradicated polio, measles, whooping cough and other diseases
    – Vaccines against Covid 19 are safe and effective and have saved many lives with only minor, acceptable adverse reactions
    – There are no effective treatments for Covid 19 besides the vaccines
    – Covid is spread by droplets and aerosols from infected people, both symptomatic and asymptomatic, and can be spread through momentary casual contact both indoors and outdoors
    – Children and young adults are at risk form Covid 19 and can spread the disease and should take the same precautions and measures as adults
    – We need to do whatever it takes to defeat Covid 19 including frequent testing, mass vaccination, continued locked downs and wearing masks
    – The best information comes from the CDC, FDA and NIH
    – The mainstream media warns us of the dangers of Covid 19 but unfortunately many do not take these warnings seriously
    – As usual, conspiracy theorists and nut-jobs abound
    – Antivaxxers are against all vaccines are now also against the Covid 19 vaccines
    – Antivaxxers have believed phony information disseminated by scurrilous, right wing charlatans
    – These people cost many lives and are the reason Covid still spreads and mutates
    – They are responsible for continued lock downs and the further decimation of the economy
    – They are selfish, evil and anti-science
    – The Covid 19 response is all about trying to get us back to normal as quickly as possible

    * The Counter Narrative
    – Covid 19 was most likely created in a lab in China or the US
    – Covid 19 kills people but far fewer than the official count
    – Almost all officials in government have botched the Covid 19 response, costing many lives
    – Most deaths were preventable if we had investigated and deployed early treatments including vitamin D, zinc, hydrochloroquine and ivermectin
    – Vaccines are good and have eradicated polio, measles, whooping cough and other diseases
    – The Covid 19 vaccines however are not actually vaccines but gene therapy and have not been adequately tested
    – The Covid 19 vaccines have serious side effects including death and other as yet unknown consequences which are not being investigated and are suppressed by the media
    – We need to defeat Covid 19 and the best way to do this is through early outpatient treatment with known, effective drugs and known drug protocols for hospitalized patients
    – Covid 19 is primary spread by aerosols from symptomatic and pre-symptomatic people, mostly in indoor situations with poor ventilation where peoples spend a long time together
    – Children and young adults are at low risk from Covid 19 and need take fewer precautions and measures but should be treated with drug protocols if infected
    – Masks, distancing and lockdowns are mostly ineffective
    – The best information comes from front line doctors who actually treat patients and experienced researchers who have no financial interest in big pharma
    – The CDC, FDA and NIH are largely compromised because of their association and funding by drug companies
    – The mainstream media is also compromised by their association with big pharma and the government
    – The truth about Covid 19 is suppressed and labeled conspiracy theory in order to support the mainstream narrative
    – People who insist that the vaccines are the only way to fight Covd 19 have believed lies told to them by the MSM from big pharma and a corrupt medical establishment
    – The vaccine narrative has cost many lives and ineffective vaccines are responsible for the continued spread and mutation of Covid 19
    – The fallacious mainstream narrative is responsible for all lock downs and the decimation of the economy
    – The people who push the mainstream narrative are evil and anti-science; The people who believe this narrative are naive, dogmatic and anti-science
    – The Covid 19 response is all about money, power and control

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